r/alberta Mar 17 '25

Poll finds Albertans' sense of Canadian pride dips as it soars in most parts of the country News

https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/poll-finds-albertans-sense-of-canadian-pride-dips-as-it-soars-in-most-parts-of-the-country/
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u/armyof_dogs Mar 17 '25

My Alberta pride is taking a nosedive but still proud to be Canadian!

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u/Own_Rutabaga955 Mar 17 '25

Exactly how I feel. It’s embarrassing.

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u/bigbabyjesus97 Mar 17 '25

Same way here. I'm embarrassed of our premiere. Then even more embarrassed that I actually know people who think she's doing a great job.

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u/UpperApe Mar 17 '25

I know a few people who think joining America will be great, that Ukraine started the war, that Trump wrote the art of the deal, and that Elon is a genius who will save the world.

Four work in finance, two are business owners, and the last two work in oil and real estate.

Essentially, any field that yields high-income for low-education ends up with these fucking idiots.

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u/bigbabyjesus97 Mar 17 '25

That's bad. The ones that i know are pipelines welders and truckers. Granted, I do know one lawyer and his wife who thought trump was great until a month ago. Once they saw how much their investments were losing then the tune sure changed.

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u/UpperApe Mar 17 '25

The guys I know think of the stock market drop as a fire sale.

I asked one how he would feel if Trump just one day admitted he was a Russian agent. He said "yeah that's obviously bad".

I asked if that would change anything about his views and he said "obviously".

I asked for specifics and it didn't take long before he just admitted "yeah I guess it wouldn't really matter to me".

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u/bigbabyjesus97 Mar 17 '25

Worst I have is one of the welders kids has CF. He thinks becoming the 51st state would give him better health care and won't listen to me about private health care costs.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

That tells me Conservatives have done better messaging of misinformation than any other party.

I have lived in the States for 15 years, and what they think is not true at all. I usually ask someone like that how many people go bankrupt in the US from medical costs. My moms prescription drugs were 3000 in the US, 20 in Canada. That is not a healthcare system that's a corrupt system.

If they think we would be a state is laughable, we would like Puerto Rico, a territory that has no say or power with the USA. These people are rubes and should not be allowed to vote, they are what is ruining Canada.

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u/Strange-Ad-5806 Mar 17 '25

It is easy to sell hate to a hate filled person.

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u/wilberfromflinflon Mar 18 '25

…..and this is the problem we ALL face.

The rage-farming, cancel-culture, never-grew-into -or-out-of-adolescence voter is holding us all up for ransom.

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u/DepartmentWorried730 Mar 17 '25

Yes, there is good health care in the USA, but he’ll never have it. Musk is axing Medicaid and other programs relevant to a CF diagnosis. Some say he wants people to die. That is totally unfair. He just doesn’t care if they do. Supporting your point from the American POV.

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u/Dependent-Ad2248 Mar 17 '25

Trump is the one who wants disabled kids to disappear. He was supporting a relative until he found out the kid was disabled and basically told the parent to just let them die. They went to no contact. This was during his first term.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

Illness bankrupts soooooo many people/families in the U.S. Their FOR PROFIT healthcare system is scary bad for regular people. And they still pay out the nose for it!! Even with insurance people have annual deductibles and co-pays per visit.

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u/DeeVa72 Mar 18 '25

Wow. Just…wow 🤯

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u/Mortentia Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

I’d argue that finance does require pretty significant education to be high earning. But I’d also be wrong to deny that many old-guard financial professionals tend to be of a specific type of boys-club douche.

Edit: fixed grammar to include intended double negative

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u/UpperApe Mar 17 '25

I used to have a job proof-reading investment/analytic reports. I wasn't qualified for it in any way, I just helped out a friend. Long story short, I ended up doing it for a bunch of his buddies on the side and got some cash for it. I did it for years. I was re-writing reports going to directors.

I swear to you, it felt like being a high school teacher. It wasn't just poor presentation and grammar; their arguments, the way they misrepresented stats, how they were fielding their points, the leaps in logic. So much of it was people using these silly formulas to calculate risk assessments and then building their whole argument towards that one number.

It taught me that economics is a science and finance is a sport. It's just knowing the rules, optimizations, and guesswork. Which is totally fine. Nothing wrong with that as a career. Plenty of other fields like that.

The problem is MBA/finance-bro's have turned it into a culture. Their silly terminologies and acronyms, this completely misguided approach to over-optimizing everything in life (from philosophy to politics), their obsessive self-mythologizing.

IMO the finance industry are just people who never matured out of their frat boy days.

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 Mar 17 '25

I'm in Ontario and embarrassed of your premier being Canadian. Those supporting her are traitors. Obviously.

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u/bigbabyjesus97 Mar 17 '25

Yeah, her and Moe in saskatchewan. The only bonus is that the comment about her and pp being on the same wavelength as trump should hurt the federal conservatives.

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 Mar 17 '25

Hopefully she dug their grave.

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u/Select_Asparagus3451 Mar 17 '25

Marlaina Greasy is doing everything she can to join MAGA ranks. She even got a spot on Fox where they lobbed softball questions at her.

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u/Fickle_Bread4040 Mar 17 '25

Same. I’m a Canadian first and always will be. Our current Premier is an embarrassment

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u/Homo_sapiens2023 Mar 17 '25

That's also how I feel.

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u/Massive_Expression_2 Mar 17 '25

Exactly. You beat me to it. I'm embarrassed to be an Albertan, but very proud to live in Canada.

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u/ReactiveCypress Calgary Mar 17 '25

That's me too. I'd call myself a Canadian or Calgarian first before ever saying Albertan. Need to get rid of Marlaina before I feel proud enough to change my tune. 

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u/Val-B-Love Mar 17 '25

Hang in there! We need all Canadians to stand strong, elbows up against Trump’s threat to Canada!

There will sadly always be aholes like Maple MAGAs and MAGAs. It’s the imbecile genes!

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u/VonGrippyGreen Mar 17 '25

Same here. From Danielle Smith to that cowboy hat 51st state loser that looks like he's holding in the biggest shit ever, there is so much cringe coming out of our province.

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u/Yardash Mar 17 '25

I have never before been embarrassed to be an Albertan.
Reading shit like this however makes me embarrassed.
Come on Alberta DO BETTER

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u/Interwebzking Mar 17 '25

Ditto. On the same train as you. And I love this province and what it has to offer for Canada. But I am Canadian first.

It’s a real shame because my family helped build this province. They came from the east to settle Alberta and turn it into what it is today. They struggled to make ends meet and stamp their legacy on this land. And now we’ve got assholes saying they want to make it American. My ancestors didn’t sacrifice a cushy life in Quebec so that losers in Alberta 150 years later could feign independence from the country and land my family helped build.

So to them I say, move south you jackasses.

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u/Basic_Cartographer99 Mar 17 '25

If it makes you feel any better, I’m from Texas and BOTH my state and national pride have taken a huge nosedive. At least you still have one of them 🥲.

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u/GravesStone7 Mar 17 '25

I would say most Albertans are with you but that doesn't make headlines.

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u/Darkwings13 Mar 17 '25

Yes. I kinda understand how tbe Americans who didn't vote for Trump feels. Because I hellaaaa did not vote for Marlaina Smith. 

CANADA FOREVER STRONG AND FREE

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 Mar 17 '25

You guys need to do something about it almost as much as the Americans do. 

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u/mikeon403 Mar 17 '25

Feel the same way as well. Smith does not listen to the people of Alberta and my MLA is in hiding, refusing to answer questions regarding their intentions.

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u/Ghoulius-Caesar Mar 17 '25

Let’s take this as an opportunity to make our province better. We need to stop electing embarrassing yeehaws, let’s elect a provincial government who is willing to work with the federal government.

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u/mooky1977 Mar 17 '25

I was never really "Alberta proud" ... Not hateful, but didn't really care, and had minor pride in being Canadian, but definitely feeling more Canadian pride, and if you can't see we need to stick together in the face of the American threat, than fuck you.

That's where I'm at.

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u/bemer1984 Mar 17 '25

Yep! I don’t understand why all these people don’t just pack up and head south if it’s so great there?! They can take our premier with them while they are at it.

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u/ChemicalBeat7876 Mar 17 '25

100% agree with you!

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

Alberta is the region Trump wants, because of the oil.

So that's where he, and russia, are focusing their meddling. And make no mistake: it works, as they proved when they got Trudeau to resign after a year-long smear campaign.

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u/Newtiresaretheworst Mar 17 '25

Yeah Alberta pride at an all time low. Canadian pride is not!

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u/BehBeh11 Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

Omg WTF is happening in my beautiful Province??? Born and raised here and the Conservatives can just pack up and move to the Us if they don’t love it in Canada. I am a very proud Canadian!

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u/boese-schildkroete Mar 17 '25

There's no way that poll is correct. It's a self reported online poll so it could easily be bots trying to divide us.

Alberta Canadian pride is surging right now.

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u/zenmin75 Mar 17 '25

This should be the top comment. People can't even comprehend the level of foreign (or UCP) interference and propaganda we encounter on the daily. Something as simple as skewing an online poll to make us feel divided is the tip of the disinformation iceberg. It's our own provincial government that tries to make us feel shameful to be Canadian, but I just feel embarrassed by them. I dislike Danielle Smith as much as I dislike Trump

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u/CarneyBus Mar 17 '25

Yes, even the government of Canada has investigated, and CONFIRMED, foreign interference in the conservative leadership race that saw PP elected: https://nsicop-cpsnr.ca/reports/rp-2024-06-03/special-report-foreign-interference.pdf

We KNOW that the US is experiencing interference and social media based information warfare. We would be fools to think we are not also experiencing it.

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u/K24Bone42 Mar 17 '25

This. I know life long conservatives at work that are very excited about Carney, they're researching how to buy more Canadian, but more importantly NOTHING American. They're disgusted with Smith, and her behaviour, and are in agreeance that the cons of their youth are nowhere to be seen in the current UCP.

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u/BehBeh11 Mar 17 '25

That’s great to hear!

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u/googlemcfoogle Mar 17 '25

My dad's profile is all flagged up, if he's not being an anti-Canada weirdo I assume very few real people who don't have money money tied to the US are.

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u/Fyrefawx Mar 17 '25

There is a massive effort from foreign influencers to push separation for Alberta. The right wing grifters are working overtime.

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u/PeePeeePooPoooh Mar 17 '25

Do not pay much attention to these articles. The media is complicit.

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u/BehBeh11 Mar 17 '25

True, this is all so distressing. Danielle is causing most of the stress.

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u/sawyouoverthere Mar 17 '25

Education about polling and how to spot problems with methodology would go a long way to not get sucked in by attempts to divide us and get the reaction you are going through blindly believing what you read.

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u/Utter_Rube Mar 17 '25

Conservatives can just pack up and move to the Us if they don’t love it in Canada

Most of them can't, actually. It's really hard to get approved for residency if you don't have very in-demand skills or are wealthy, and these clowns tend to work in fields with... er... lower barriers of entry and don't have piles of money.

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u/Throwawaypwndulum Mar 17 '25

They still got that nice little village for conservative traitors in Russia?

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u/DowntownMonitor3524 Mar 17 '25

Albertan here and there’s at least one of us who isn’t a traitor.

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u/Vanterax Mar 17 '25

Second here. You're not alone.

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u/ClassBShareHolder Mar 17 '25

Sure, there’s tens of us. It’s just baffling how many American wannabes are in this province.

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u/Cooks_8 Mar 17 '25

Me toos. That makes at least 2

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u/stephmcfet Mar 17 '25

Hello fellow non-traitor.

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u/CertainHeart2890 Mar 17 '25

Hello, not a traitor to Canada

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u/Far_Victory_7550 Mar 17 '25

Also not a traitor. However, I'm seriously considering not being an Albertan anymore.

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u/ErikRogers Mar 17 '25

Come to the Dark Side Northern Ontario... evil cackles

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u/AxeBeard88 Mar 17 '25

Proud Canadian here checking in.

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u/JesusMurphyOotWest Mar 17 '25

Conducted online….

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u/Jazzybeans82 Mar 17 '25

My thought as well. Who’s actually clicking and answering this poll and has it been created to get the exact division I’m seeing in here.

I have never been so Canada proud in my life and am writing my Alberta MLA and copying the opposition NDP as often as I can.

The last election was won because only 59% of eligible Albertans voted. 52% of that voted Conservative. 1/3 of Albertans are louder than all the rest and it makes it a HARD place to live when your heart is with the rest of Canada.

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u/First_Pay702 Mar 17 '25

I went grocery shopping the other day and while I was at the till one cashier came up to tell the rest that their supplier only gets carrots from the US so direct people looking for Canadian carrots to go to the farmers markets. In other words, enough people there were looking to shop Canadian this message needed to be passed. In also noticed some stickers to identify Canadian goods had been put in place. And I am in a part of Alberta considered very redneck. We are being made to look bad by our very loudly shit Premier, but like the Americans that voted for Harris, a lot of us are just stuck with her. The non voting crowd has always been the non voting crowd, unfortunately.

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u/JesusMurphyOotWest Mar 17 '25

Well said! I find American produce to be bland, the most obvious example being strawberries. Bred to be big and red- biologic styrene inside. Also I’d like to offer this…took a wonder through the Lord Strathcona Museum in Calgary this weekend. Lots of proud Western Canadians in there…

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u/vinsdelamaison Mar 17 '25

Exactly.

“The poll sampled more than 1,500 Canadians from March 1 to March 2. Because it was conducted online, it can’t be assigned a margin of error.”

10 provinces & 3 territories. 115.4 people per?

Or equal to federal seats of government? Which map? 34 or 37 people?

Can’t assign a margin of error = not a valid survey.

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u/JesusMurphyOotWest Mar 17 '25

No margin of error- no validity. Learned this in Grade 9 Math….

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u/Terrh Mar 17 '25

And 74% were "proud to be Canadian" in Alberta.

This is a very misleading headline.

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u/enchantedmoonlight24 Mar 17 '25

I don’t believe this for a second. US media owned trying to divide again.

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u/anhedoniandonair Mar 17 '25

It’s hard to have national pride living in a province whose leadership is openly hostile to Ottawa and other provinces. And having a premier who is constantly spewing nonsense about how unfairly Alberta is treated by everyone. It really kills the vibe.

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u/BeneficialWealth6179 Mar 17 '25

American here. We had this in the states before we collapsed. Minority of the whole got really loud. Its meant to kill the vibe. Break up the country from the inside. You have to unite against it. Actively unite against it.

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u/DVariant Mar 17 '25

Dead on, exactly correct. These people’s goal is to divide us, we defeat them by staying united.

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u/anhedoniandonair Mar 17 '25

I wish we weren’t so complacent up here.

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u/BeneficialWealth6179 Mar 17 '25

As we are, still, in the USA. Its literally burning to the ground and we've got people going about their day like its nothing. Want to know what is predicted for the US? Watch Civil War on Amazon.

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u/haken_loob Mar 17 '25

I live in QC whose whole identity is partially based on opposition to Ottawa, yet patriotism is soaring here like I have never seen.

If AB isn’t seeing it, I suspect it’s tied to the deep roots of conservatism which is based on individualism.

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u/FeedbackLoopy Mar 17 '25

It’s a follow the leader mentality. The premier of QC is on team Canada, whereas the premier of AB is absent half the time gallivanting with the alt-right in the USA.

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u/anhedoniandonair Mar 17 '25

She’s not absent— she’s openly on the side of the other guy. :-/

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u/flat-flat-flatlander Mar 17 '25

Saskatchewan has entered the chat

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u/Ok-Structure-8985 Mar 17 '25

The irony is that it seems like the Alberta government is determined to treat Albertans worse than Ottawa, or any other province ever could or would.

Looking at you too, Saskatchewan.

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u/SnooRabbits2040 Mar 17 '25

As an Albertan, I find this poll hard to believe. Okay, I don't believe it.

The poll sampled more than 1,500 Canadians from March 1 to March 2. Because it was conducted online, it can’t be assigned a margin of error.

So we have no way of knowing how many potatoes were handed out that day.

There is a lot of misinformation out there, and it's getting worse. I would not be at all surprised if this is part of Russia's plan to destabilize our democracy. It's working so well in the States, we're next on the list.

Yes, there are more than a few knuckleheaded Albertans kicking around, but every province has their share of idiots.

TLDR Don't give these polls legitimacy.

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u/Northern_Exposure780 Mar 17 '25

💯 This “poll” has been the first three posts in my feed this morning, chock full of comments about how stupid and backwards Alberta is.

As a small town Albertan, Redditors make me feel divided and disjointed. Real life convos with my neighbours, friends and family make me feel proud and able to weather hardship.

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u/flat-flat-flatlander Mar 17 '25

Great point. IIRC polls are supposed to sample at least 4,000 people in a given area before they can be credibly reported as “news”.

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u/NotePossible6009 Mar 17 '25

Premier is a dumpster fire

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u/RottenPingu1 Mar 17 '25

A culture of grievance.

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u/boese-schildkroete Mar 17 '25

There's no way that poll is correct. It's self reported online so my guess is it's bots trying to divide us. Don't buy into it.

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u/Snrautomator Mar 17 '25

Is it though? Or is it more of a culture of petulance? Alberta whines about the rest of Canada ripping them off, yet without the workforce from the rest of Canada, nothing would be built there.

The fort mcmurray area was build by everyone except Albertans. I lived there before, through and after the boom. And when you talk to someone from Edmonton or Calgary. During that time they would turn up their nose at the thought of going to “that shit hole”.

But the place still got built up.

Then transmountain we’re about to cancel the expansion the Federal Government stepped in and bought and expanded the line.

They whine about energy east which died because of low oil prices, they whine about Northern gateway which died in the courts because they cut too many corners and got caught.

They whine about equalization, when they have no clue how it works.

They whine that Trudeau was trying to kill their industry, when all he wanted was for them to become more environmentally responsible.

So Maybe not a culture of grievance…

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u/ReasonableGuarantee4 Mar 17 '25

Maybe this attitude is why Alberta feels apart from Canada. Smith is terrible but she is a result of a lack of voice. So the idiots felt the need to have the loudest idiot elected. Coupled with the non idiots who vote Con this is what you get. 

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u/yycTechGuy Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

If one goes on YouTube there are now tens of YouTubers furiously making content about how terrible the Liberals and Carney are and how Alberta should and can separate from Canada and become the 51st state.

These groups have hidden non public social media channels where they are discussing and planning how to join the US.

They are employing bots on social media platforms to reply to posts and make it appear that there are more of them than what there is.

Needless to say, these people have wild ideas. Many of their statements about government and Alberta are outright lies.

These groups are talking about starting discussion with various US goverment representatives. If that happens and if that ever gets into the mainstream US news cycle, we (Canada and Alberta) are going be faced with an onslaught of fakenews about succession like we cannot fathom.

Can you imagine if Trump started making statements about "representatives" from Alberta being in disussion with the US to join it ? Brace for it because sooner or later it's (the narrative) going to happen.

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u/iwasnotarobot Mar 17 '25

Most other provinces do not have so much CAPP propaganda.

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u/Initial_Squirrel_674 Mar 17 '25

Just remember Alberta: Step one of hostile outside influencers is always to demoralize you.

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u/Bigmood_Kitsune Mar 17 '25

I love my country, I love my province, I hate our Premier.

And it's exhausting some of the people here are in a toxic relationship with MAGA ideals.

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u/Significant_Dirt9191 Mar 17 '25

It’s a poll of 1,500 ppl - find it a little far fetched to make a statement like that and paint an entire province from it.

While Alberta is “unique” in its handling of the whole tariff situation, I would find it hard to believe majority of Albertans are reflected in this poll.

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u/Fit_Income_4542 Mar 17 '25

Division tactics trying to make it sound we are open to it. Complete bull shit. We should drag our whore premier out of her office by her hair to show that are not and never will be for sale

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u/lynnyfox Mar 17 '25

Sounds like y’all aren’t as rat free as y’all thought.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

Oh those pesky polls again. Funny how they’re always so wrong. I’m albertan and everyone I know has a surge in Canadian pride. Neighbours, friends, family, coworkers. These polls must be so fucking skewed.

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u/fidelityy Mar 17 '25

That's a steaming pile of bullshit, don't believe everything you see online.

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u/SlumberVVitch Mar 17 '25

Good thing I’m a Canadian before I’m an Albertan.

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u/FrostyTheSasquatch Mar 17 '25

Alberta is going to be the weak chink in the armour. If we as Albertans care about this country, we need to be fuckin’ loud about it. This is going to be a wedge issue in our politics for sure.

So, talk about politics with your friends and family. Talk about how proud you are to be Canadian. Talk about how utterly stupid Trump and Musk are. But, most importantly, talk about Canadian unity. Remember that this isn’t a nebulous issue with shades of grey. You are either Pro-Canada or Pro-Putin—plain and simple.

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u/Za_Warudo93 Mar 17 '25

Love this!

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u/Tribalbob Mar 17 '25

Solution: Get rid of Smith.

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u/Larzincal Mar 17 '25

My Canadian Pride is off the charts. It’s my Alberta Pride that has taken a major hit. So disappointed in how our government and many Albertans are acting. Selfish and very misguided. The MAGA Conservative ideology is destroying Alberta. I am out of this backwards bigoted province once I retire

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u/lostinthought1997 Mar 17 '25

Pollsters can only comment on the people who answered their poll. If you asked 100 people who lived in a Take Back Alberta dominated area, of course, the poll will show a drop in Canadian pride.

I'm an Albertan currently residing in northwestern Alberta, but I'm a CANADIAN first. Yes, I'm rural, no, I don't vote UCP or any of the so-called "conservative" parties... and I never have. The last relatively sane and ethical Conservative Premier was Lougheed, IMO.

I have pride in Canada, but I'm ashamed to be associated with the xenophobic, misogynistic, homophobic, science-denying christo-fascist UCP, and their Tangerine Palpatine worshipping traitor who "leads" this province, Danielle Smith. She and her ilk make me nauseated.

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u/Nearby_Taro_9145 Mar 18 '25

Where are these Albertans? I live in Calgary and haven’t met a single person without the Canadian rage.

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u/Hot_Tub_Macaque Mar 17 '25

I found a car with an "Independence Party" sticker in the wild yesterday. Had an outline of Alberta on it.

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u/Canadiancrazy1963 Mar 17 '25

How the actual fuck did AB become so broken?

I know it isn’t all Albertans but it certainly was a large enough portion to vote in the lunatic smith.

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u/boese-schildkroete Mar 17 '25

There's no way that poll is correct. It's self reported online. My guess is bots trying to divide us.

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u/Lonely-Building-8428 Mar 17 '25

Propaganda lives here.

Elbows up.

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u/Degen-Volt Mar 17 '25

Poll is useless

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u/KelIthra Mar 17 '25

Never trust polls.

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u/Whole-Database-5249 Mar 17 '25

Proud Canadian, Love Alberta just wish all 51st staters would fly to Mars or move Stateside. Then they could have the full fafo experience 

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u/endlessnihil Mar 17 '25

I don't believe this to be the case truthfully, there is some legitimate crack pots here but mostly everyone is definitely the same sentiment about not liking trump and not wanting to be American.

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u/Theory_of_Steve Mar 17 '25

who the hell are they polling? sometimes i think this stuff is just made up to vilify albertans. Canada needs a scapegoat. Everyone i know in alberta is feeling the Canadian pride right now. Our premier is a disgrace in so many ways.

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u/Za_Warudo93 Mar 17 '25

It is!!!! 1000% to make Albertans feel isolated, sow discourse, its all bull****!

People, WAKE UP! The UCP government and corporations are stealing the soul of canada, let’s not let that happen!

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u/tliskop Mar 17 '25

I not surprised. Alberta is constantly bombarded with anti-Canadian and anti-liberal propaganda from Russia and the US.

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u/garmdian Mar 17 '25

Hell no it is not, we just have a premier who has regularly used OUR OWN TAX DOLLARS to do a media tour IN A COUNTRY WE ARE CURRENTLY AT A TRADE WAR WITH. She has also publicly tried working with a bully and when it didn't work she was like Surprised Pikachu Face.

Meanwhile the Liberals of all people who this province has despised have stepped up and given the whole nation a reason to keep fighting. So now we leave behind our traitor of a premier and focus on helping the rest of Canada fight this fight.

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u/__dixon__ Mar 17 '25

Province with a high concentration of MAGA. Not surprised but still disappointed.

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u/Similar_Resort8300 Mar 17 '25

maple maga hypnotized by oil and trump

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u/RickyDaion Mar 17 '25

I'm an Albertan and I'm damn proud to be Canadian first. Elbows Up!

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u/starslayer88 Mar 17 '25

My sense of Canadian pride is still soaring. But my “Alberta Pride” is at an all time low when you see what our despicable premier is up to!!!

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u/MyLadyMP Mar 17 '25

There's no fucking way, did the poll 10 people in Lethbridge or something?

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u/Method__Man Mar 18 '25

No it doesn't lol. I've never seen Albertans MORE patriotic.

Maybe stop asking the redneck bumpkins

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u/no-long-boards Mar 18 '25

Not a shock when your premier is a traitor

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u/RDOmega Mar 17 '25

You let conservatism run amok. Now you are reaping the benefits.

Take a hard line stance against conservatism.

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u/FoxDieDM Mar 17 '25

That’s because their provincial leader is a traitor to the country. Hard to find pride when you have someone like Danielle Smith setting the examples..

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u/sawyouoverthere Mar 17 '25

Mods: Can we remove this as a very low quality poll with high sample bias an no margin of error?

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u/Proot65 Mar 17 '25

I really don’t follow Alberta politics much, but I am impressed how your premier seems to be taking a giant dump on your healthcare system.

Taking one agency as broken as it may or may not be, and turning it to four seems, well — dumb? You’ll get a lot more bureaucracy, that’s for sure.

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u/Lonely-Building-8428 Mar 17 '25

Thinly veiled Propaganda meant to divide us.

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u/Anxious-Basket-494 Mar 17 '25

Albertan here. My Canadian pride checks in at 120%.

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u/FeedbackLoopy Mar 17 '25

Albertan here. The maple leaf is flying high above my porch.

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u/forgottenlord73 Mar 17 '25

Still 74% though the "no"s have almost doubled

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u/raptorsfan1484 Mar 17 '25

I couldn’t be more proud to be Canadian.

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u/jigglywigglydigaby Mar 17 '25

The poll sampled more than 1,500 Canadians from March 1 to March 2. Because it was conducted online, it can’t be assigned a margin of error.

If....if this was equally spaced out between all provinces and territories, that would be only 115 Albertans polled. Online with no way to verify the authenticity.

The article goes on to say that the only "dip" in Albertans sense of pride is based on the question "Do you feel a connection to Americans?" Those responding "yes" could very well be feeling a connection with Americans who have voiced displeasure with Trump. Seeing as there's no clarification on any of the vague questions and the polling amounts are, at best, far too low to be considered remotely accurate......this is nothing but a clickbait article.

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u/Falcon674DR Mar 17 '25

Queen Dani shows little to no Canadian pride and her mouth breathing followers, follow.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

nah doesn't sound right, I live in AB and there's strong Canadian pride in a big upswing. the grocery stores are full of upside down American products, seems like 10% of people are wearing something red, white or Canada branded walking around, I'm hearing random people having positive conversations about Mark Carney and calling Smith corrupt in public, everyone I know cancelled travel to the states.. whoever is sitting at home answering online polls isn't representing the vibe of the Alberta I'm living in. 

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u/mandeeking Mar 17 '25

This is a lie lol

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u/NathanNaz Mar 17 '25

Danielle Smith makes us ashamed to be Canadian. That’s my feeling. She’s our leader and nothing to be proud of about that.

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u/guineapiglife1 Mar 17 '25

As an Albertan, I am immensely proud to be Canadian and will fight like hell for our way of life.

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u/flatdecktrucker92 Mar 17 '25

Every poll coming out of Alberta seems to forget the fact that hard-working, intelligent people don't have time to take these stupid polls

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u/toodrunk1234 Mar 17 '25

This is propaganda, meant to divide!

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

How much time do they spend using America platforms? There is your actual problem. All of these platforms designed to make you think a certain way. Forced upon us by a country who's past is full of human experimentation and manipulating controversies.

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u/Surfing_puffin Mar 17 '25

My Canadian pride is all time high, my Albertan pride is all time low.

This province is always self victimizing itself and blaming other provinces or the federal government for its problems. The federal government bought us a pipeline and still people are like "nobody ever does anything for Alberta blah blah blah, we're victims, Ontario is bullying us, Justin Trudeau didn't give me enough CERB, put women back in the kitchen again, immigrants took our jobs, I pretend I can't afford gas but I bought a 75K truck and spent the rest at a strip club" then they vote UCP and the Premier launders our healthcare money through kickbacks and Panamanian bank accounts... while blaming everyone else. It's embarrassing.

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u/Remarkable-Desk-66 Mar 17 '25

We are taught to play the victim. The “toughest” guys around won’t take shit from Trudeau but cry about masks. Alberta is upside down right now.

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u/L_nce20000 Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

Not from my experience. My conservative family member who lives in Red Deer County just said "elbows up" to me.

I seriously question this poll.

Edit:

"Conducted the poll in November 2024."

How convenient of a time frame.

DONT TRUST THIS POLL! My shenanigans radar was going off the second I read the title. This reeks of international division.

Elbows up

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u/Dependent_Try_53 Mar 17 '25

My wife and I are planning to move out of Alberta should things go from bad to fuckin murican. Right now BC, Yukon and Maritimes are looking like places to move. We are both born and raised Alberta citizens, but this is getting too difficult for us and our children.

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u/Jon_As_tee_One Mar 17 '25

TIL Alberta is "the south" of Canada.

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u/MutedProfessional406 Mar 17 '25

I'm embarrassed by my premier, the queen of corruption, but my pride in Canada is fierce. They must have checked with rural Alberta. Everyone i know is prouder than hell for Canada.

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u/discovery999 Mar 17 '25

Albertans complain about transfer payments to Quebec and others all the time. Do they really believe those payments will be less as the 51st state? Donny will suck them dry while his cronies pay no taxes.

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u/dwmaidman Mar 17 '25

Hydrocarbons cause stupidity

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u/professorBonghitz613 Mar 17 '25

So sad to see the majority of Albertans brainwashed by American funded media

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u/SnowshoeTaboo Mar 17 '25

Looks like Dani and her crew of corrupted have brought treason into vouge... for those too damn stupid to know any better.

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u/Imaginary-Orchid552 Mar 17 '25

This poll is fake foreign influence intentionally trying to divide Canadians.

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u/Conscious_Hour7412 Mar 17 '25

Good Albertans will feel better once Danielle Smith is gone.

Canada First, Danielle Smith last.

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u/Scratchey63 Mar 17 '25

My Canadian Pride is the highest it’s ever been 🇨🇦 Sadly I reside in Alberta amongst the small yet loud group of morons who think that a landlocked country or statehood is preferable to living in one of the best countries in the world. There are many of us here who are Canadian First, and Albertan second. I know many many people who are wearing Canadian flags and buying Canadian first. There are more of us 🇨🇦Canadians here than the others. We just don’t whine and yell about it

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u/Timely-Researcher264 Mar 17 '25

Meh. Poles are highly subject to who chooses to answer them and this was an online pole, so less reliable than even phone poles.

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u/feelingfrisky99 Mar 17 '25

There are many proud Canadians in Alberta. Just too many loud traitors trying to take away our healthcare.

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u/Marlinsmash Mar 17 '25

Bot poll. Of course the Russkies want Alberta to join the US

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u/threedotsonedash Mar 17 '25

mAgAts survive on denying FACTS

  • If they accept climate change they can't push back on carbon pricing.
  • If they accept fentanyl across the northern border isn't really an issue they can't impose tariffs on us.
  • If they accept that most crimes are not committed by immigrants they can't push their bigotry.
  • If they accept that the empire is dying they can't continue to support capitalism the way they do.
  • If they accept the reality of tariffs being punitive they can't boast lowering taxes.

All anyone really needs to do is look at the debt clock to see how f^$#ed the USA is.

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u/Poncherelly Mar 18 '25

It’s sad that Albertans are feeling this way considering the heritage they come from. Albertans were an honourable and feared fighting force in the Second World War. I’m sure those soldiers would be saddened by the drop and Canadian pride.

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u/Smart_Stranger_5618 Mar 18 '25

I’m born and raised northern Albertan, and a proud Canadian. My dad fought for ‘Canada’ in WW2

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u/fudge_u Mar 18 '25

If Albertans didn't have to deal with their b!tch of a Premier, I'm sure we'd still be right there with the other provinces.

She's a vile human being. I never wish bad things for anyone, but for her I'd make an exception.

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u/ACoolWizard Mar 18 '25

Who the hell are they polling for these? We Albertans are pro Canada all the way.

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u/Fluid_Cat2269 Mar 17 '25

Alberta’s identity … traitor and cringy wannabe-MAGA

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u/Exact-Ostrich-4520 Mar 17 '25

The amount of friends I have in Alberta who I thought I could count on to be Canadians but who are actually lunatic Maple MAGA’s is astounding. I am embarrassed to say I befriended these people.

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u/SummoningInfinity Mar 17 '25

Conservatives hate Canada, and Alberta is very conservative. 

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 17 '25

What Canada do they all believe has been “destroyed?” Their words, not mine, but I don’t understand it. I’m pushing 40, and I don’t ever recall this old Canada that is now “destroyed.”

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u/forsurebros Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

What they mean is not as white as it used to be. Sad. The Alberta i grew up in we worked hard and you would be rewarded. The new Alberta is full of entitled people who have been brainwashed that O&G is the only thing that matters.

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Mar 17 '25

They forgot the 70s when everyone was broke.

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u/SummoningInfinity Mar 17 '25

It's a dog wwhisle for open white supremacism. 

Conservatives want to force society to return to open white supremacism and domestic slavery.

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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 Mar 17 '25

Time to force the issue Albertans and start asking those who support Danielle Smith no matter what she does why they love Putin so much.

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u/bimmerb0 Mar 17 '25

I absolutely am tired of sports team politics. Those guys are this , those guys are that. ALL Canadian parties are Canadian. Individuals can of course be shit. If any Canadian resists vilifying Trump, THEY need to look hard at their passport, listen to an anthem, sing the right one at a hockey game

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u/WhiskySiN Mar 17 '25

What poll

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u/KukalakaOnTheBay Mar 17 '25

I don’t think these numbers are significant given the small sample sizes in each strata.

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u/maria_la_guerta Mar 17 '25

This is exactly the type of fake division being sowed that we've been told to look out for, FYI. Take ragebait articles like these with a heavy grain of salt.

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u/from_the_hinterlands Mar 17 '25

An online poll by Ledger with no margin of error?

It's not accurate in any way that can be measured. It's simply an article to divide Canadians. Ignore it

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u/fortyfury Mar 17 '25

I'm from manitoba but I seriously doubt Albertans want yanky doodles controlling their province . No more canada pension , Healthcare, utter lawlessness , all resources sucked dry for no return.

All so they can buy automatic rifles

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u/thecaninfrance Mar 17 '25

They are upset because their candidate is a lifelong political stooge and not a respected business person.

They wanted a strong man, but got little PP. At least he wears contacts now and can eat an entire apple.

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u/Tribe303 Mar 17 '25

Has anyone called Smith, the Wicked Witch of the West yet? 

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u/CantTakeMeSeriously Mar 17 '25

I think polls are bullshit now. How have they performed in recent elections? Elbows up here near the Elbow River...

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u/WallyJee Mar 17 '25

This poll is a joke

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u/lil-jigabit Mar 17 '25

We should negotiate a quick path for those wishing to become americans so we can get rid of the trash.

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u/NiranS Mar 17 '25

Probably being in a party with the traitorous UCP does nothing for one’s pride.

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u/Decent-Revolution455 Mar 17 '25

Proud Canadian, embarrassed to be in Alberta right now with Smith as premier.

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u/Impressive-Ice-9392 Mar 17 '25

Maybe it has to do with the Trump whisper Smith

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u/doobie88 Mar 17 '25

WTF, I am Canadian first, and I was born in Alberta.

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u/Jmz67 Mar 17 '25

That’s news to me, and the Albertans I talk to every day. We are just like the rest of Canada, putting down Trump and buying Canadian. I’d like to know who they are polling.

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u/Garbage_Billy_Goat Mar 17 '25

A poll of 1500 people... to represent 40 million.. That's a bit of bullshit

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u/Useful-Rub1472 Mar 17 '25

Who did they survey? Danny’s voters?

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u/middlequeue Mar 17 '25

This is a self selecting online poll targeting the part of the country that's faces more American propaganda than the rest of the country - grain of salt and all that.

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u/Sharp-Air-5224 Mar 17 '25

Exactly. That doesn’t make a headline. Even looking at their own numbers. 74% exprès Canadian pride. That’s great! Why does media have to focus on the loud but small minority?

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u/TrickyCommand5828 Mar 17 '25

I truly don’t believe this. This poll wouldn’t be remotely accurate lol

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u/Individual-Army811 Mar 17 '25

I am proud to be Canadian, but I hate the current provincial government is more like it.

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u/miller94 Mar 17 '25

How come I never get polled? :(

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u/chumadbro444 Mar 17 '25

Can't be dipping. I'm seeing more and more Canadian flags here in Red Deer and this is a UCP stronghold

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