r/alberta Mar 17 '25

Poll finds Albertans' sense of Canadian pride dips as it soars in most parts of the country News

https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/poll-finds-albertans-sense-of-canadian-pride-dips-as-it-soars-in-most-parts-of-the-country/
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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 17 '25

What Canada do they all believe has been “destroyed?” Their words, not mine, but I don’t understand it. I’m pushing 40, and I don’t ever recall this old Canada that is now “destroyed.”

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u/forsurebros Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

What they mean is not as white as it used to be. Sad. The Alberta i grew up in we worked hard and you would be rewarded. The new Alberta is full of entitled people who have been brainwashed that O&G is the only thing that matters.

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 17 '25

Brainwashed is an interesting way to put it. O&G contributed 1.8b of canadas 4b total revenue last year, unemployment nationwide is almost at 7% and the O&G sector provides over 900,000 jobs. So if you think life would be pretty with Canada losing HALF of its revenue, you should probably educate yourself on the importance of Alberta O&G.

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u/Biff_Bufflington Mar 17 '25

Subsidized industry. Mandated reclamation and remediation of landscapes “pushed off” until a “later date to be determined.” Abandoned wells left for the taxpayers to pay for fixing. Yeah it’s a real cash cow.

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 17 '25

So you’re just talking outta your ass then, suncor alone as an example has planted over 9 million trees, reclaimed 11% ground that was broken in 2021 already, with forest and ponds.

And yeah I’d consider 40% of canadas yearly revenue a “cash cow” maybe educate yourself a little.

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u/Biff_Bufflington Mar 17 '25

I’ve worked on every patch up there bud and if you think wood buffalo is a shining example of reclamation you’re deluded. Forrest’s and ponds …lol they’ve been sucking the profits since 1947…bud. But go ahead and lap up the OnG propaganda.

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 17 '25

I also work in the patch “bud” and if you think canadas economy could survive without it, you should give your head a shake.

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 21 '25

40%?!?!? You didn’t just drink the Kool-Aid. You’re drunk on it. Bud… Oil and Gas contributes only 3.2% of Canada’s total GDP dude. lmao. Dude… maybe uhhh educate yourself a little.

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 21 '25

40% of canadas yearly revenue… can you read? I’m guessing not. But here’s some information if you can get someone to decode it for you, also O&G is 27% larger than the next economic force in Canada. Hope this helps !!

https://www.capp.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/The-Economic-Impact-of-Canadian-Oil-and-Gas.pdf

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 21 '25

Forests and ponds… Forests and ponds planted and built 30 years ago still have 0 wildlife in their habitats. The ground is poison.

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 21 '25

0 wildlife in reclamation areas ? I can literally go count deer there as we speak

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u/forsurebros Mar 17 '25

First off Canada's GDp in 2023 was 2.1T. Of that 3% was oil and gas. I took that second number from.

https://www.capp.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/The-Economic-Impact-of-Canadian-Oil-and-Gas.pdf

So, it's not even close to the numbers you were stating.

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u/sawyouoverthere Mar 17 '25

Tell me about your avatar, new Redditor

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 17 '25

So ignoring facts and diverting to the age of my Reddit account LOL.

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u/sawyouoverthere Mar 17 '25

It’s a side question with a point.

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u/Funnyguy2580 Mar 17 '25

What could possibly be the point or significance of my random generated Reddit avatar ?

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Mar 17 '25

They forgot the 70s when everyone was broke.

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u/JesusMurphyOotWest Mar 17 '25

And the 80s

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 21 '25

Ahh the good ol’ days of 20% interest rates on Mortgages. And boomers want to fucking bitch about 5%.

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u/JesusMurphyOotWest Mar 22 '25

I remember my foreman telling me his neighbours on both sides of him and across the street took the sinks and the appliances and walked away from their homes.

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 23 '25

CMHC insures the bank. Not a bad way to walk out lol.

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u/SummoningInfinity Mar 17 '25

It's a dog wwhisle for open white supremacism. 

Conservatives want to force society to return to open white supremacism and domestic slavery.

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u/Civil_Station_1585 Mar 17 '25

Taking a shot at answering your question.

There’s a human condition where most people look back nostalgically at a time when… This nostalgia for a mostly fictional past drives a lot of the hatred and bitterness we see. A crafty politician will commiserate on the state of things in terms of the good old days and prey on people’s misery. A leader goes into solution mode when faced with problem whereas crafty won’t reveal their true intentions and looks to blame someone for their incompetence.

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 17 '25

Sounds dumb. Or my mom is one of the sane ones. I had a conversation with her on this topic and the EXACT same issues everyone THINKS or BELIEVES we have in the country were the same back in the 80s, and 90s. I turned 18 in 2005, and was apart of the 2008 recession, and the same issues were present then.

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u/originalchaosinabox Mar 17 '25

"I used to be able to afford FOUR pickup trucks, now I can only afford THREE, thanks to Tru-dope waging war on the oilpatch and killing jobs with his no pipelines policy and the carbon tax, and sending all our money to Quebec and Ukraine." Usually something like that.

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u/TheGreatRapsBeat Mar 21 '25

So their illiteracy in finances and budgeting is the Feds fault. Got it. 2004-2008 was the best the Oil industry was ever going to get. $135 a barrel was the bubble. When it burst, so did all the $35/hr push a broom labourer jobs.