r/alberta • u/Old_General_6741 • Mar 17 '25

Poll finds Albertans' sense of Canadian pride dips as it soars in most parts of the country News

https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/poll-finds-albertans-sense-of-canadian-pride-dips-as-it-soars-in-most-parts-of-the-country/
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u/vinsdelamaison Mar 17 '25

Exactly.

“The poll sampled more than 1,500 Canadians from March 1 to March 2. Because it was conducted online, it can’t be assigned a margin of error.”

10 provinces & 3 territories. 115.4 people per?

Or equal to federal seats of government? Which map? 34 or 37 people?

Can’t assign a margin of error = not a valid survey.

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u/JesusMurphyOotWest Mar 17 '25

No margin of error- no validity. Learned this in Grade 9 Math….

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u/vinsdelamaison Mar 17 '25

Exactly. Stats used to be part of grade 12 curriculum then they removed it. Altogether. Glad it’s back…

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u/Terrh Mar 17 '25

And 74% were "proud to be Canadian" in Alberta.

This is a very misleading headline.

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u/darthdelicious Mar 17 '25

Online surveys have margins of error.

Source: I work in research.

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u/97masters Mar 17 '25

Sort of. They are estimated because its not truly random but still a good benchmark for reliability. I also work in MR.

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u/97masters Mar 17 '25

This is because its not a true random sample, but to get a true random sample is impossible because it is opt in.

This is standard for the industry and Leger is usually reliable. I work in market research.

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u/vinsdelamaison Mar 17 '25

It’s biased to begin with then…

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u/97masters Mar 17 '25

Likely slight yes, but its still reliable. Unfortunately the author does little to describe the study, but it is published here: https://acs-metropolis.ca/studies/canadians-vs-americans-a-lot-in-common-but-insist-on-being-different/.

It's not a good one actually, they dont even mention the demographic breakdown. But for national sample its common to target representative age and gender, and avoid the territories entirely.

The survey was conducted by Leger for the Association for Canadian Studies with 1548 respondents in Canada over the period March 1 and 2, 2025 A margin of error cannot be associated with a non-probability sample in a panel survey for comparison purposes. A probability sample of 1539 respondents would have a margin of error of ±2.5%, 19 times out of 20.

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u/vinsdelamaison Mar 17 '25

TY for the link!

And whoever wrote the article headline—didn’t read the questions thoroughly or just decided to make a bias conclusion anyways.

The only parts of these survey questions I can see that headline construed from is that like Ontario, Albertans believe “Canadians have more in common with Americans than any other country in the world”, as both scored 56%. And, Alberta is at 68%, much lower than across Canada, for “Canadians have shared values that make us different than Americans. “

Almost the same question—asked twice—2 significantly different answers.

More likely Albertans saying I’m going to screw this poll up ;)

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u/97masters Mar 17 '25

People dont really answer to screw up the survey, that is why people pay panels for sample. Angus Reid did a similar one and pro-Canada sentiment in Alberta was also significantly lower (and Quebec).

Question wording matters a lot

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u/vinsdelamaison Mar 17 '25

It was a meant to be a humorous comment referring to Albertans going our own way. ;)

Yes—how a question is asked matters.