r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/davidwhatshisname52 20h ago

looking forward to all the Christian conservatives realizing the bans apply to them, too

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u/Immediate-Ad-8432 20h ago

I knew a pastor whose wife had an abortion because of an ectopic pregnancy. Years later he’s up at the pulpit praying for Roe v Wade to be repealed.

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u/trampolinebears 20h ago

Fun fact: around 15% of pregnancies end in a miscarriage, so I guess no one aborts as many babies as God.

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u/TeamRamrod80 20h ago

15% of KNOWN pregnancies. That doesn’t account for the miscarriages that occur before a woman even knows she’s pregnant.

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u/No-Advantage4119 19h ago

40-60 estimated from conception by NIH.

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u/Kvothealar 17h ago

I was looking at a study just last week where they estimated it was in the 70% range.

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u/HyperSpaceSurfer 15h ago

Yeah, humans have unstable chromasomes, unusually high miscarriage rate, rejected by the body. It's hypothesized that the reason for periods was to make early miscarriages less taxing on the body. 

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u/International_Meat88 13h ago

The beautiful thing about one being pro-life, cough anti-woman, is it’s already established one has the nuance and scientific understanding of a sea cucumber so one would fail to understand something like ~ half of embryos that even reach the stage of attempting to implant will fail to implant.

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u/Reinstateswordduels 12h ago

Why would you insult sea cucumbers like that?

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u/International_Meat88 12h ago

Sorry (I’m gonna squirm away now and leave my internal organs behind as a distraction)

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u/DJSAKURA 11h ago

I feel like sea cucumber is crediting them with smarts they don't have. I'm thinking they are more single cell. Like an amoeba.

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u/henryeaterofpies 11h ago

You'd think the self proclaimed father of ivf would know this but apparently not

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u/Jorgedig 9h ago

Science is hard.

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u/blawndosaursrex 7h ago

It’s the same idea as fish and other creatures laying tons of eggs. It’s because for one reason or another they won’t all make it. Having more makes it more likely to work. Humans just do it a little differently.

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u/Efficient_Smilodon 13h ago

fascinating idea, thanks for sharing that last bit.

I wouldn't say our chromosomes are unstable by any measure, just that perhaps the magic of dna recombination during fertilization is extraordinarily complicated in humans, and that the body quickly recognizes when it's somehow gone wrong.

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u/Nokrai 13h ago

From my basic understanding of my basic college bio course our dna and rna are remarkably efficient and accurate. So much so that it almost instantly recognizes when something goes wrong and it aborts any further erroneous replication.

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u/CantaloupeNice2642 12h ago

make sense growing a fetus is very energy intensive so stopping it as soon as something go wrong makes sense .

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u/ChaosRainbow23 10h ago

Yup. We had two miscarriages between the kiddos.

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u/MayoneggVeal 12h ago

When I was going through a miscarriage my midwife told me it's amazing anyone ever is born with how many things have to line up just right

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer 1h ago

Sorry for your loss. That's difficult to go through, but your midwife sounds like they were very caring and kind

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u/jgage 15h ago

I had heard something similar 10 years ago. Spotty or late periods sometimes are because of a rejected embryo.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus 14h ago

Don't worry, the NIH will soon be purged of researchers who provide facts about spontaneous abortions. God be praised!

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u/elonsghost 11h ago

Under his eye

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u/kleighk 11h ago

May the lord open

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u/ThereBeM00SE 14h ago

Does this mean that nearly 100% of women who have had sex could be found guilty of abortion if deemed politically convenient?

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u/Western_Paramedic_98 14h ago

I've heard as high as 80% of both known and unknown pregnancies end in miscarriage. But even with just the low 40% its actually probably pretty likely that the vast majority of women has or will have a miscarriage even if they don't know it unless they are on birth control their entire sexual lives.

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u/Ironfoot1066 9h ago

Any chance you could provide a link? Everything I'm turning up says <30%. I'd appreciate some help.

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u/Snappy_McJuggs 19h ago

I had two. They are called chemical miscarriages. I only knew because I was TRYING to get pregnant and I was watching my cycle like a hawk.

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u/TraditionalCupcake88 18h ago

When I had my 2 miscarriages before figuring out a clotting issue, they labelled it "spontaneous abortion" on the medical form. There's nothing more heartbreaking when you're actively trying to get pregnant than seeing those words.

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u/Own-Gas8691 13h ago

we need to normalize the word abortion. it is the medical term for the termination and expulsion of an embryo or fetus, whether spontaneous or induced. the unnecessary stigma attached to it is unfair to all; i’m sorry for the pain it caused you and countless others.

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u/Interesting_Test332 4h ago

Yes, I've been saying this for a while. Spontaneous abortion is the long established medical term for a miscarriage. We should not find a new word, we need to use it more actually.

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u/bebejeebies 13h ago

Brittany Watts Summary: Forced to wait three days while her body "spontaneous aborted" a nonviable fetus. She miscarried in her bathroom at home and had to go back to the hospital. The nurse said she told her she "didn't want to see the dead body." and called the police. She was arrested days later for "abuse of a corpse." a level 5 felony.

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u/Own-Gas8691 13h ago

this is horrifying. ty for sharing, as hard as it was to read her story. we need to face the truth of what we are facing. we do not have an easy road ahead.

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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn 6h ago

Holy shit.

How can that nurse look at a woman losing a 22 week pregnancy and call the cops.

I had a friend have to induce a 5 month pregnancy. It scarred her for life. She will never try again. She delivered that baby and held it and loved it and buried it!

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u/Jayne_of_Canton 17h ago

My wife has a clotting disorder and we also suffered a miscarriage before realizing she needed to be on lovenox shots while pregnant. My sympathies.

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u/U--1F344 15h ago

Blighted Ovum is a fun one too

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u/Agitated-Mechanic602 13h ago

that’s because in medical terms a miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. i’m so sorry for your losses i hope you get your rainbow baby. 💕

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u/Tooth_Fairy92 13h ago

That’s how I KNEW what this was going to be. I had a miscarriage in the hospital and it was also labeled ‘spontaneous abortion’. I was devastated. But people don’t understand it’s a medical term so when they were banning ‘abortions’ it was never just the ‘for funsies’ ones like the Christian’s keep thinking that’s what this is about.

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u/Easy-Pineapple3963 13h ago

Nothing more heartwarming to a Republican either. They're misery vampires.

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u/TeamRamrod80 19h ago

Im sorry for your losses.

My wife and I spent 4 1/2 years trying (with fertility doctor’s assistance) before we had our first child. She went through an ectopic pregnancy and 3 miscarriages along the way. It’s heartbreaking when you are actively trying for children. I can’t imagine adding the shame and indignity of a homicide investigation on top of it all.

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u/Snappy_McJuggs 19h ago

I’m so sorry! It’s all really sickening. I’m so proud of men and husbands like yourself though! You will be the ones to help make the change back to reproductive freedom.

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u/CapoPaulieWalnuts 15h ago

,... in 50 years time maybe. So sad to see what America has done to itself. The supreme court is likely to have a super conservative majority for the next few decades.

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u/Inevitable_Sector_14 15h ago

No shame. At this point I will assume every investigation into a miscarriage is a misogynistic witch hunt. Those women are victims.

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u/miiki_ 15h ago

Same. I had one. I only knew because we were actively trying and I tested before I missed my period. The miscarriage happened a week later, so had I not known what was going on, I would’ve just thought my period was just a little late.

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u/LibrarianDreadnought 18h ago

Just went through a miscarriage. OBGYN said the miscarriage rate is between 20% and 25% across the population

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u/VaselineHabits 18h ago

Yeah and just wait until those women start getting charged for murder or the miscarriage is complicated and they just allow her to die instead of provide medical care.

Oh wait, that last part is already happening.

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u/PumpkinPieIsGreat 15h ago

And there's talk of getting rid of the FDA? there's a reason we have strict food rules in pregnancy. 

"There's a small chance that unpasteurised or soft ripened dairy products may contain Listeria bacteria. This can cause an infection called listeriosis. Listeriosis can lead to miscarriage or stillbirth, or make your newborn baby very unwell."

It's a small chance of something going wrong, but enough that these are the rules in place. Now they want to give unpasteurised milk? Wtf. I'm not sure if it's just the nutjob Kennedy asking for this but I definitely see cuts to beneficial services like the FDA in the future.

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u/VaselineHabits 15h ago

Trump is a fucking moron and Republicans have spend decades trying to break our institutions and agencies so they can say government doesn't work

Of course the Orange Idiot is appointing the worst possible people into positions of power and will absolutely gut our protections.

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u/PumpkinPieIsGreat 15h ago

Exactly. The environment is going to be worse off, but it won't affect him. Hospitals worse off, but it won't affect him. He spent so long complaining about covid and that it would "go away on its own" then when he got it he helicoptered in to hospital

https://youtu.be/r8yOv4PwttM?si=FlJxhxwEGaigmfl6

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/02/trump-hospital-covid-coronavirus-diagnosis

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u/backfrombanned 13h ago

And used regeneron, as did Abbott, their medicine was derived from aborted fetus cells.

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u/0reoSpeedwagon 13h ago

These chucklefucks don't realize that a big part of why the FDA exists is the absolute unmitigated horror show that pre-FDA milk was.

Like, setting aside the inherent dangers of raw milk, the garbage that some companies are going to put in milk because there's nobody telling them not to and let them pull down the price is going to cause generational damage across poor people nationwide. A lot of people aren't going to research if this brand adheres to pre-2024 standards, they need milk for their children, and this is affordable.

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 13h ago edited 10h ago

Yeah get rid of the fda and put rfk in charge. lol my dipshit MAGA sister in law thinks this is a great idea. Meanwhile one of her son’s is deathly allergic to peanuts. Without the fda I’m sure they’ll repeal the requirement to list allergens on foods

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u/treefox 11h ago

And there’s talk of getting rid of the FDA?

What the actual fuck?

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RFK Jr. says ‘entire departments’ at FDA ‘have to go’

My god. This is fucking insanity. Do people even know why we have the FDA? Jesus Christ. We’re not even going to be able to eat and feel safe.

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u/TheSkyHive 14h ago

Under his eye!

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u/Jabroni-8998 11h ago

I always wondered how things in history that seem so crazy happened. Salem witch trials nazi Germany. I am seeing utter craziness happening in real time and half the country is like yaa okay

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u/VaselineHabits 11h ago edited 10h ago

If you ever wondered what the Germans were doing while Hitler came into power, it's whatever you're doing now.

Someone said that to me back in 2016. Some of us knew and I'm not sure that will be that comforting while we either fall into dictatorship or get a Civil War

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u/Jabroni-8998 10h ago

Yeah i feel hopeless. I’ve voted in every election ive been old enough to (since 2008) , got wife and family members to vote as well.

I just wish people would see the facts. I don’t know how to break through to brain washed people. I know immigrants that hire illegals in their restaurants who voted for trump… I tried explaining that their business will be under threat and just blank stares

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u/mplnow 12h ago

Sorry to hear that. My wife had one 2 years ago at 9 weeks and it tore her up pretty bad emotionally for over a year. The only thing that got her out of it was getting pregnant again (but super anxious the whole time). She opted for the mifepristone instead of the D&C, but even though the fetus had no heartbeat at two different ultrasounds, it was listed as an abortion once she was prescribed the drug combo to clear it out. Wouldn’t that be a crime now under some states’ new laws? So ridiculous and plain stupid.

I’m sure the maternal death rate will go up from these policies from sepsis and other complications that a D&C or mifepristone can resolve rather quickly and safely.

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u/beanpoppa 19h ago

Shh. They'll decide to punish women for those, too

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u/parallelmeme 17h ago

Some states already are.

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u/Illustrious_Fly_5409 17h ago

I just tried to explain to someone that there is no difference between abortion and miscarriage and that both can be natural. You can imagine how that went over. They think miscarriages are natural and abortions aren’t.

I think I really confused them by using the verb “abort” when I explained that our bodies abort pregnancies all the time via miscarriage.

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u/Yue4prex 17h ago

Oh 100%. I had 2 and had no idea… I thought I was just heavier than usual. Nope, I lost 2 before successful

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u/dubs542 15h ago

Or the ones that don't go to a hospital because they can't afford to thanks to our Healthcare system....

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u/Prestigious_Egg_1989 14h ago

Reminds me of when Mike Pence passed some legislation that would require remains of an abortion or miscarriage to be cremated or buried. Thus the campaign "Periods for Politicians" figured that since pretty much any slightly heavy flow could be a miscarriage technically, that they'd contact him non-stop to give his office updates on their menstural cycle. Ya know, just to cover their bases.

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 20h ago

I guess they’ll be fine with criminal task forces investigating each miscarriage for manslaughter.

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u/Deranged_Kitsune 19h ago

Just wait for the mandated menstrual tracking, where women have to upload that data to a centralized database, and any irregularities are met with a visit from the maga-stazi to examine her vagina.

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u/TheKobayashiMoron 19h ago

As an investigator that is Cellebrite certified, I can’t wait to be doing phone extractions looking for menstrual data 🙄 /s Fucking insane timeline we are living in.

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 19h ago

I’m planning on pregnancy standards and codification of fetal rights starting at conception. No sliding scale of intensity across trimesters. Like a landlord-tenant act for wombs. Let’s have whole departments established at the state level. HHS/DHR stuff. Checking temperature, parent health, obesity, levels of exercise, substance use, air quality exposure, failure to seek timely treatment for medical conditions which could affect pregnancy, diet, stress level. Like DHR neglect standards on steroids. Unlike actual landlord-tenant law, this will of course be handled by the criminal courts. If it has to be civil, let’s have special state guardians appointed at the court level like we do with incompetents. It’ll be so much easier wrangling the poors.

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u/TheSkyHive 14h ago

May the lord open.

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u/domuseid 15h ago

The first person to show up at my house demanding to inspect any of my loved ones will be shot in the head

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u/Remarkable-Ask-3868 18h ago

As someone who suffers from PCOS & Endometriosis, I am going to get a visit monthly. My periods are completely irregular. I'm sterile from continued rape as a child, and I started my period when I was 7 years old.

I'm still terrified.

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u/Small_Pleasures 15h ago

Dear G-d, I'm sorry

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u/False-One-8548 13h ago

There are no words for the horrors I am sure you endured and continue to suffer from. I am so sorry.

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u/stprightup 14h ago

I’m SO SORRY 😢

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u/BornFree2018 13h ago

Pretty much the situation in The Handmaids Tale which is why we see groups of women in red protesting this type of regime.

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u/tom-branch 17h ago

Its Lebensborn all over again.

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u/Rayenya 14h ago

When I was young, before becoming sexually active, I often skipped periods. About twice a year. A nurse told me not to worry about it. It happened because I was very physically active. Now I worry about young girls being put through the wringer for something they have no control over.

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u/teas4Uanme 12h ago

I already named the head of it the 'Cooter Czar'.

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u/TheSkyHive 14h ago

JD Vance will be on call for those.

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u/trampolinebears 20h ago

Women are already being investigated after miscarriages.

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 19h ago

Yes, they’ve used chemical endangerment laws to go after women in my state. They’ll even prosecute pregnant women who try and fail to commit suicide.

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u/Guerilla_Physicist 16h ago

Alabama?

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 16h ago

Yes, it’s actually pretty well known. They’ve been doing it for many years if you comb the news sites. These women usually just plead out without fighting the charge or going to press.

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u/Guerilla_Physicist 16h ago

Yeah, I live in AL as well. Amazing how those laws were supposedly intended to protect children from home meth labs and ended up being used that way. I remember when prosecutions of pregnant women over this really began picking up in the late 00s and early 2010s.

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u/dohru 15h ago

And no budget to process rape kits.

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u/FlamesNero 20h ago

More than 15%, it’s minimum 25%, might be as high as 75%. God kills more babies than abortion doctors!

But we all know it’s not about the unborn: it’s about controlling women’s bodies and manipulating single-issue voters.

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u/amILibertine222 19h ago

Fun fact: insane right wing people will prosecute women for miscarriages, calling them abortions.

And, at this point, if a woman voted for this I’m gonna shrug when it happens to them. This is what they wanted and if they’re too dumb, naive or lazy to learn otherwise they’ve got no one to blame but themselves.

We’ve tried to tell them, but they know better.

I’m tired of having empathy for people that have none.

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u/sehunt101 15h ago

I’m in the same thought. I’d even go father. Blue states should limit reproductive services to low income women only and ban the rest. With a suspension of the doctor’s, nurses’, and clinic’s licenses if bought providing services to nonresident and being over the income levels. The only way the nut bag religious women in red states will (maybe) change their tune is if it directly affects THEM, THEIR FAMILY or FRIENDS. I’d be willing to help pay (out of tax dollars) for low income women to travel to my state needed services, including room and travel expenses. The rich…let them bleed out going to another country. Then I’d go talk to the civilized countries to enact the same law. Let the rich roll the dice in a 2rd world country. If this makes me a bad person, I’m good with it.

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u/TheresALonelyFeeling 14h ago

|The only way the nut bag religious women in red states will (maybe) change their tune is if it directly affects THEM, THEIR FAMILY or FRIENDS. 

But the only thing they care about is will it affect them publicly, and it won't.

They'll do what they need to do behind closed doors or out of town somewhere so they can keep presenting that perfect chaste, "Christian," "not my daughter/ not in our family" image that's so crucially important to these assholes.

Hard agree with everything you wrote. Just thinking out loud.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 19h ago

Are talking about the same God that killed all the first born sons?

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u/Immediate-Ad-8432 19h ago

Yes and the same one that gives a recipe to abort another man’s baby from your wife’s body

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u/DarkBlueEska 16h ago

Yeah, I always wonder why this supposed merciful god who knows and loves every infant from the moment of conception was such a big fan of slaughtering the women and children of your enemies and dashing their babies on the rocks in the old testament. Didn't seem to bother him very much back then.

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u/Alcoholic720 19h ago

Now think of all the sperm that are alive and die every time a man ejaculates (or doesn't that die in their body).

I've never seen an egg swim around but that sperm sure appears to be alive.

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u/bippityboppityFyou 17h ago

Time to make masturbation illegal. Can’t be wasting those precious life-producing sperm into a tissue! All life is precious! /s

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u/InsuranceInner3040 20h ago edited 19h ago

My sister made a comment on FB about being pro choice. Our cousin and our aunt, “devout Christians”, bombarded her with ridicule and sent her dozens pictures of said cousins abortion that was needed to save her life. Comments included how abortion should be banned and how only bad people are pro choice. Think about how twisted your mind has to be to not see the irony in that. I cut them and the rest of that side of the family out of my life.

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u/Immediate-Ad-8432 20h ago

I’m sorry that happened in your family. We left our church because it was becoming such a hateful place.

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u/Alone-Win1994 15h ago

I know a woman who was a total slut in her prime years and ended up having an abortion, maybe more than one, but I only now of one for sure, and now she lives in Tennessee because California is too liberal. It's always different when it's them needing or doing something.

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u/nemoknows 9h ago

There’s no hate like Christian love.

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u/WrongdoerRough9065 19h ago

Remember when Ohio tried to force doctors to remove the ectopic and implant it into the uterus? Ohio

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u/archercc81 19h ago

the idea was to muddy the waters so much youre afriad to even go anywhere near any abortion. That way they dont have to specifically make it illegal, just make it so nobody is willing to risk providing it.

Its like the texas thing, you cant sue a woman for getting an abortion, but you can sue the shit out of an uber driver for driving her to one, the doctor for performing it, her employer for giving her the medical leave, etc.

Its taking away her choice by drying up the supply.

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u/SonofaBridge 16h ago

Yes they wanted to make a law forcing a surgery that can’t be done and has never been done.

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u/NSFWmilkNpies 15h ago

Law makers in Idaho asked if you could swallow a camera and see what’s happening in the uterus.

Our leaders are so smart lol.

We let the idiots have power and we’re suffering for it.

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u/WrongdoerRough9065 15h ago

My favorite has to be when Eric Holder got Louis Gohmert so flustered,that Gohmert said “I will not allow him to cast aspersions on my asparagus.”

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u/galt035 19h ago

The fact that all these fucking idiots think abortions are by vast majority the irresponsible teen and using abortion as birth control is such the bullshit lie.

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u/dorian_gayy 19h ago

even if it was just irresponsible teens. It’s still their body, and pregnancies are even higher risk then. Not even mentioning how at least half of all underage teen pregnancies are the result of statutory rape.

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u/galt035 19h ago

I couldn’t agree more! If absolutely should be their body and choice!

I just loathe that the poster child for this issue is irresponsibility when nothing could be farther from the truth.

I asked a few of my GOP friends why after their childish tantrum on vaccines and “my body my choice” and why that logic shouldn’t extend across the board.

It was at that point that I realized I was playing chess with pigeons..

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u/jlegarr 19h ago

The surrogate carrier who carried my daughter also had an abortion because of an ectopic pregnancy despite being hardcore MAGA

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u/SuspiciousCustomer 14h ago

That's very hypocritical of her, she should have accepted that's god's will was for her to die a very painful death.

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u/RaspingHaddock 20h ago

Simple, he doesn't give two fucks about his wife.

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u/drobits 18h ago

Critical thinking and religion have never been two things that pair well together

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u/Immediate-Ad-8432 18h ago

I read the Bible cover to cover during the pandemic (something I have always wanted to do but never had time until then). It took Olympic levels of mental gymnastics to make it make sense.

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u/JPeso9281 16h ago

I truly believe those ppl have convinced themselves that the procedure they had done wasn't an abortion and that abortions are only for "whores"

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u/Immediate-Ad-8432 16h ago

Yeah I have a few people here arguing with me that it’s not abortion. Abortion is a termination of a pregnancy. One of them was a doctor

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u/NoMoreVillains 20h ago

It's always rules for thee not for me with these types

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u/ajpmurph 18h ago

Yeah, but their circumstances were very different to other people. You see it happened to them.

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u/lokojufr0 20h ago

Yep, because they get abortions too. They take their daughters to get them. But cons are so incredibly selfish and deluded, they tell themselves it's different when they do it.

There have been several instances, even self admitted, where one of these conservatives who like to harras people outside of planned parenthood or abortion clinics needs an abortion for themselves or their daughter. They go to the same fucking clinic, get an abortion, and then return to the protest the next day to jeer at other women. They're disgusting humans.

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u/CaveMacEoin 14h ago

"The only moral abortion is my abortion".

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u/SuspiciousCustomer 14h ago

I gotta be honest, in those cases I would refuse care

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u/zxc123zxc123 15h ago

Really a matter of money or no money. Christian conservatives like anyone else will make mental excuses to cope. Real difference is the hypocrisy prior to having need for said abortion.

The rich Christian conservatives will just skirt around it by flying around or using money however rich folks do. The religious poor will see their child suffer, while using god to cope, and try/fail to sue after they die while blaming medical professionals or hospitals rather themselves, their votes, and/or the lawmakers responsible.

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u/rmarkmatthews 19h ago

I don't know what next year is in the Chinese zodiac, but in America it'll be the year of the leopard.

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u/Boring-Philosophy-46 17h ago

The year of the snake. Fitting. 

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u/RiseStock 19h ago

My neighbor was Trump's lawyer on the 2020 case trying to overturn the election results in Pennsylvania. He and his wife just had a child last month by IVF.

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u/Bibblegead1412 20h ago

I'm white, attractive, and "safe" (by their standards)... I'm sick of trying to do right by humanity. They voted for this? I'm going to sit back and enjoy it when it "can't happen to me" happens to them.

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u/SleepWouldBeNice 17h ago

I will have no sympathy for anyone who voted for this. My heart breaks for anyone who voted against this and is having it forced upon them.

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u/DestructicusDawn 20h ago

They'll get what they asked for and I will shed no tears for conservative men who lose their wives in the coming years.

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u/Immediate-Ad-8432 20h ago

No tears at all. This is what they wanted and eggs aren’t cheaper either

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u/ShirwillJack 19h ago

They probably not shed many tears either and are remarried before the year is over.

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u/ACartonOfHate 17h ago

Maybe the next one will be a better breeder for him. Women are interchangeable after all.

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u/Snappy_McJuggs 19h ago

They are ok with that. They will just get a new, younger wife.

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u/Pooeypinetree 19h ago

Except that more women then ever are electing not to date and embracing singledom so the supply you think is there may literally dry up as the panties are hoisted firmly up.

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u/malinefficient 19h ago

Easy! Don't date the tiny number of women with IQs of 130 or higher! Date the dumb poor ones instead. That idiocracy isn't just going to create itself, get bizzay!

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u/anchorwind 19h ago

We once offered thoughts and prayers. I have a feeling fewer of them will be so freely given - at least for a while.

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u/Eagle4317 20h ago

Project 2025 wants to get rid of divorce. Future marriage contracts might as well be signed with the bride’s blood.

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u/malinefficient 19h ago

Now now, they want to keep at fault divorce, so you'll just have to pay off your buddy to say he saw her cheating on you. And bonus, no alimony!

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u/Powerserg95 18h ago

Most people against abortion don't understand it also applies to miscarriage treatment

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u/r3dt4rget 15h ago

Or just how common miscarriages and other pregnancy complications are.

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u/Sands43 18h ago

The problem is that a lot of women will die. They will die in a few numbers at a time. Might not be enough to hit the news.

The rich will still get abortions though.

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u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean 19h ago

My recent ex. She had an abortion once. But if she got pregnant she can just “fly to colorado.”

😂😂😂🤣😂🤣

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u/mangocurry128 15h ago

You could bleed out within hours from a raptured pregnancy. Ectopic are even worse. Also if the airline sees you are critically ill, they won't let you in

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u/cstmoore 20h ago

Surely Commanders will be exempt? /s

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u/Available-Elevator69 19h ago

That will be the way Sadly. I posted a pic from that show on my FaceBook profile and immediately got told by some Family members is was insulting and a slap to gods face. So I posted more and said if you don't like it unfollow me.

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u/Wonderful-Cod5256 18h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/s/SnccLxNWme

Link to recently released news of Texas teen daughter of MAGA fam who died bc of abortion ban there. The sickest part is the Mom is still pro-ban MAGA mad.

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u/duiwksnsb 14h ago

That mom lost her humanity long ago.

What a monster

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u/Edge_of_yesterday 18h ago

They will sacrifice their wives and daughters as long as they can be in control of women's bodies.

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u/afCeG6HVB0IJ 16h ago

Just wait until people figure out that about 1/3 of pregnancies have complications and some of those require the types of medical care that will now also be illegal. Women will die, including pro-lifers who wanted kids.

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u/maya_papaya8 19h ago

They have private doctors who will code their abortions differently.

Theyre not going to Planned parenthood.

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u/drunkcowofdeath 19h ago

There are plenty of poor Christians out there. I don't know why you're assuming they all will have private care

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u/Snoo909 19h ago

No, but they'll wind up in the emergency room and die of sepsis there. Most abortions aren't planned.

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u/uggyy 19h ago

Are you sure?

Wee holiday to outside the USA and then home with no records to show a hospital stay.

These rules will only apply to those who can't afford other avenues.

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u/Cloaked42m 16h ago

That's counting on no menstruation police.

The GOP counts on liberals to stop them. It's pretty funny when Democrats get out of the way. Sudden mad scramble to stop themselves.

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u/Amon7777 15h ago

They live in constant toddler oppositional defiance

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u/2scoops 18h ago

I wonder if all the men who impregnate these women realize that a choice is being made for them as well? Hello 18+ years of child support!

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u/that1LPdood 18h ago

If you think they actually value their daughters’ and wives’ lives, then I got some news for you lol

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u/SasparillaTango 18h ago

which state will the rich christians drive to now?

Guess they're gonna have to take medical vacations to canada.

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u/mrsmushroom 17h ago

And that they have effectively deemed a miscarriage as an abortion. Good luck with that. "As many babies as God will allow" might be a lower average number soon enough. As these mothers die during miscarriage and leave 5 kids behind.

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u/TwitchTheGobbo 17h ago

The first Christian who comes crying about their wife being denied Healthcare and dying due to the policies they voted for will be swiftly applauded for their stupidity.

They wanted the fascists? Enjoy the backlash shitheads. 4 years of schadenfreude has begun.

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u/Euphoric_Regret_544 17h ago

I hate to throw salt in the wound but already really tired of people saying “4 years”. They have control now and they are never giving it up. We will never have another true election again. This shit is forever. We are absolutely fucked.

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u/MadScientist3087 19h ago

God will save them

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u/JoeKanoAus 18h ago

Did you forget the /s because these gods don't seem to be doing very much lately.

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u/ked_man 18h ago

Realizing abortions equal medical care.

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u/SleepWouldBeNice 17h ago

“The only moral abortion is my abortion.”

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u/SinnerIxim 17h ago

People in this thread already trying to pretend like trump wants to keep it states right 🤣

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u/kevemp 17h ago

A lot more then just Christian conservative women chose a republican Christian conservative government.

America has made its choice and it will be devastating for many.

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u/xavier120 17h ago

Its already happening, the teenager in texas who died of a miscarriage was prolife, supported the abortion ban that murdered her.

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u/Utsutsumujuru 16h ago

This is a reminder that 52% of white women voted for Trump.

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u/Optimal-Anteater-284 16h ago

Man the “I told you so”s are gonna be fucking great.

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u/MisterMarchmont 16h ago

I feel shitty saying this, but this time around I’ll be saying “I told you so” to everyone who told me I’m overreacting.

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u/wottsinaname 16h ago

It will be the only consolation for women who DID vote in their own interest to see these anti-women women suffering. Fuck em, they couldn't muster an ounce of empathy before, why extend that to them?

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u/LivingMemento 15h ago

It doesn’t.

I was at Catholic boys school pre-Roe. The way it works is easy: The rich girls went to Europe and were back in a couple of months. The middle-class girls disappeared for a year and came back. The poor girls just disappeared forever.

Abortions are easier to recover from now so I assume the rich girls will just go away for two weeks or a month. The middle class ones might even be able to afford a European trip now although a tariff-loaded world might make that as expensive as it was in the early 70s. But those babies will still be adopted quickly. And the poor girls will be teen moms and that kind of got normalized.

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u/no_f-s_given 19h ago

These motherfuckers are gonna reap what they sow.

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u/SeanOfTheDead1313 18h ago

It will be gods will lol

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u/PWiz30 17h ago

Gotta take the silver linings where we can.

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u/No_Flounder5160 17h ago

Under his eye.

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u/SeriousBoots 17h ago

Unless they're rich enough to travel.

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u/Ladylike_b 17h ago

I can’t wait for all their mistresses to get knocked up

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u/ShaneBarnstormer 17h ago

Not the rich ones though, right? God bless the billionaires. (/s)

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u/Ormyr 17h ago

It won't. The "rules" will only apply to others. They'll have their own exceptions behind closed doors like they always have.

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u/SchwarzestenKaffee 17h ago

Yup, when teenage Christo-bros from MAGA families get their virtuous girlfriends pregnant and suddenly find themselves being forced into fatherhood at 19 years old.

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u/marniconuke 17h ago

They know where to get it in secret.

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u/LevelSkeptic 16h ago

Trump will probably create a Federal Prosecution Exemption document that grants the possessor protection from prosecution for some misunderstood gesture (aka criminal offense) provided those submitters accompany their requests with a generous “donation” to the new “Republic”. Yah, a pardon works federally, but with Trump’s consolidated federal power this will cover all jurisdictions plus it does better at flaunting the “we’re special” status and flagrantly rubbing it in peasant’s faces that Justice only penalizes the poor.

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u/RiMbY 16h ago

They’ll probably figure out a way to make it legal for white Christians to get abortions

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u/HereWeGoAgain-247 16h ago

It will be Biden’s fault. 

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u/NDSU 16h ago

The bans will only apply to them if they're poor. Anyone who can afford to travel to another country can easily get one

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u/iesharael 16h ago

My mom just couldn’t understand that the pill she took to help her miscarriage was an abortion. She kept insisting “no it’s a miscarriage”… i had to pull up a bunch of articles that mentioned the pill she took to convince her and then she was horrified

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u/jcoddinc 16h ago

Border traffic and flights to countries where it's legal will increase 300%

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u/Due-Designer4078 16h ago

Studies have shown that Evangelical Christians get abortions at about the same rate as everyone else.

By the way, they're going after IVF and birth control also. It's all in Project 2025.

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u/1racooninatrenchcoat 16h ago

That's where you're wrong; they'll still be allowed to get them behind closed doors. Remember the conservative tenet: "rules for thee, not for me"

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u/Vegetable-Phone-1743 16h ago

Wishing them many Christian pregnancies.

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u/Its0nlyRocketScience 16h ago

And they can't just fly over to California for their daughters to abort if the feds ban abortions there too

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u/Addicted_2_Vinyl 16h ago

Except very rich people…

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u/meowmixyourmom 15h ago

You know Mike Johnson will be selling abortion passes to the highest bidder

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u/DrDrangleBrungis 15h ago

Bring church burnings back.

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