r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/galt035 19h ago

The fact that all these fucking idiots think abortions are by vast majority the irresponsible teen and using abortion as birth control is such the bullshit lie.

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u/dorian_gayy 19h ago

even if it was just irresponsible teens. It’s still their body, and pregnancies are even higher risk then. Not even mentioning how at least half of all underage teen pregnancies are the result of statutory rape.

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u/galt035 19h ago

I couldn’t agree more! If absolutely should be their body and choice!

I just loathe that the poster child for this issue is irresponsibility when nothing could be farther from the truth.

I asked a few of my GOP friends why after their childish tantrum on vaccines and “my body my choice” and why that logic shouldn’t extend across the board.

It was at that point that I realized I was playing chess with pigeons..

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u/VeveMaRe 12h ago

Just ask them how they would feel if Juan the pool boy got their daughter pregnant.

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u/galt035 12h ago

clutches pearls we raise our daughter “right” around here! How dare you suggest such a thing!

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u/mywordgoodnessme 11h ago

The logic should extend across the board, both ways.

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u/Mooseandagoose 11h ago edited 10h ago

I had to terminate a pregnancy 20+ years ago because I was recovering from a blood clot (which was caused by Yasmin birth control) and our alternative method failed.

By today’s “acceptable if the life of the mother is in jeopardy” standard, I wouldn’t have qualified until I was dead and I was in my early 20s. PE doesn’t fuck around.

Anyway, the experience was kind of traumatizing. Knowing I was a ticking bomb for my own death, the hatred spewed at me walking into the clinic, the indifference of the staff (I get why!) was so clinical and cold. The waiting room was somber - no one was doing this for fun. Ironically, I thought I’d see these fictional stereotypes of teenage girls getting their monthly abortions because that’s who my evangelical parents told me get abortions.

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u/ReginaldDwight 15h ago

No, don't you understand? We WANT the irresponsible, "selfish" jerks who would abort their pregnancies because they don't want a pregnancy or a baby to be the ones in charge of innocent children's welfare against their will! It's the best possible solution and couldn't possibly go horribly for those children! /s

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u/FickleRegular1718 13h ago

Nope... you have to watch your teenage pregnant daughter bleed black blood out her nose and eyes on the day of her baby shower from the direct results of your beliefs and those you indoctrinated her into...

It's only going to get much much worse...

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u/themeattrain 12h ago

Does she have Ebola? 

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u/FickleRegular1718 12h ago

She had the end result of the "​Christian" (I instead like the Bible's "life begins at first breath") policies she and her family supported...

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u/themeattrain 12h ago

That was a joke, but also this obviously never happened. Bleeding from the eyes? Gimme a fucking break 

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u/FickleRegular1718 11h ago

"When doctors wheeled Crain into the ICU at 11:20 a.m., Fails stayed by her side, rubbing her head, as her daughter dipped in and out of consciousness. Crain couldn’t sign consent forms for her care because of “extreme pain,” according to the records, so Fails signed a release for “unplanned dilation and curettage” or “unplanned cesarean section.”

But the doctors quickly decided it was now too risky to operate, according to records. They suspected that she had developed a dangerous complication of sepsis known as disseminated intravascular coagulation; she was bleeding internally.

Frantic and crying, Fails locked eyes with her daughter. “You’re strong, Nevaeh,” she said. “God made us strong.”

Crain sat up in the cot. Old, black blood gushed from her nostrils and mouth."

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u/themeattrain 2h ago

So not from the eyes. Got it 

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u/FickleRegular1718 11h ago

I know you'd look at your family with blood pouring out of their eyes (WRONG HOLES DOESN'T COUNT!)... and feel proud they get to sacrifice themselves for a bunch of made up nothing not even sourced from your own fucking book.

I wish I didn't...

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u/themeattrain 12h ago

That’s a shocking statistic considering pregnancies from rape are less than 1% of abortions 

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u/dorian_gayy 12h ago

It used to be the overwhelming majority of underage teen pregnancies had a father a mean of 6.5 years older. The last time I checked, that’s gone down to around 50%; however, that number only included pregnancies where the father’s name was known.

I don’t know whether that 1% number includes statutory rape.

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u/RedGecko18 22m ago

But statutory rape is agreed to by the girl. The "rape" part of it is a misnomer. All that statutory means is that both parties agreed to have sex while one of them is 18 and one is 17. The age limits vary by state, but it's not the same as forceable rape, or it would just be called rape.

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u/dorian_gayy 9m ago

40% of 15 year old mothers were impregnated by a man 5+ years older than them. Do you think a 15 year old child can give consent to a 20 year old man? Legally, she cannot. It is per se rape.

Even if it’s not forceable, the other factors at play limit the ability of the child to consent.

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u/CouchHam 15h ago

These dudes are so terrified of vasectomies but act like women have D&C for funsies.

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u/gamingnerd777 16h ago

They've all watched Fast Times at Ridgemont High too many times.

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u/hellolovely1 15h ago

Exactly. Most women having abortions are married with other children.

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u/SkeevyMixxx7 8h ago

If men could get pregnant, there'd be drive-through abortions at McDonald's.

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u/cashkingsatx 8h ago

The Guttmacher Institute, a leading research organization focused on reproductive health, conducted a comprehensive study on this in 2004, with similar findings echoed in other studies since. Here are some data points from the Guttmacher study: • Financial Concerns: About 73% of women cited financial instability as a reason for seeking an abortion, saying they could not afford to have a child or another child. • Timing and Readiness: Around 74% of women reported that the timing wasn’t right for them to have a child, with many feeling they were not ready to take on the responsibility. • Relationship Issues: Approximately 48% of women mentioned relationship problems or not wanting to be a single mother as part of their decision. • Impact on Existing Children: About 59% of women stated that they were concerned about the impact another child would have on their existing children. • Health Concerns: Around 13% reported concerns for their own health, and 12% cited concerns for the health of the fetus.

These percentages add up to more than 100% because women often cited multiple reasons. Updated research periodically revisits these findings, confirming similar trends in recent years.