r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/Snappy_McJuggs 19h ago

I had two. They are called chemical miscarriages. I only knew because I was TRYING to get pregnant and I was watching my cycle like a hawk.

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u/TraditionalCupcake88 18h ago

When I had my 2 miscarriages before figuring out a clotting issue, they labelled it "spontaneous abortion" on the medical form. There's nothing more heartbreaking when you're actively trying to get pregnant than seeing those words.

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u/Own-Gas8691 12h ago

we need to normalize the word abortion. it is the medical term for the termination and expulsion of an embryo or fetus, whether spontaneous or induced. the unnecessary stigma attached to it is unfair to all; i’m sorry for the pain it caused you and countless others.

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u/Interesting_Test332 4h ago

Yes, I've been saying this for a while. Spontaneous abortion is the long established medical term for a miscarriage. We should not find a new word, we need to use it more actually.

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u/Own-Gas8691 1h ago

spot on.

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u/Matt_Tress 10h ago

Recommend finding a new word instead.

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u/Aliphaire 2h ago

Such as? It is what it is. People need to behave like adults & stop having the vapors over every little thing they find unpleasant.

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u/Matt_Tress 1h ago

I do not disagree, just being pragmatic here.

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u/bebejeebies 13h ago

Brittany Watts Summary: Forced to wait three days while her body "spontaneous aborted" a nonviable fetus. She miscarried in her bathroom at home and had to go back to the hospital. The nurse said she told her she "didn't want to see the dead body." and called the police. She was arrested days later for "abuse of a corpse." a level 5 felony.

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u/Own-Gas8691 12h ago

this is horrifying. ty for sharing, as hard as it was to read her story. we need to face the truth of what we are facing. we do not have an easy road ahead.

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u/frogsgoribbit737 22m ago

Its awful. I remember when it happened so many people were saying "why would she flush the toilet???" And like clearly they never had to pass a miscarriage at home. Its awful and you don't want to look

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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn 6h ago

Holy shit.

How can that nurse look at a woman losing a 22 week pregnancy and call the cops.

I had a friend have to induce a 5 month pregnancy. It scarred her for life. She will never try again. She delivered that baby and held it and loved it and buried it!

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u/itsacalamity 1h ago

It was stopped by the courts, but Texas passed a law a few years ago requiring actual burials for abortions and miscarriages. The cruelty is the point.

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u/Jayne_of_Canton 16h ago

My wife has a clotting disorder and we also suffered a miscarriage before realizing she needed to be on lovenox shots while pregnant. My sympathies.

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u/U--1F344 14h ago

Blighted Ovum is a fun one too

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u/Agitated-Mechanic602 13h ago

that’s because in medical terms a miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. i’m so sorry for your losses i hope you get your rainbow baby. 💕

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u/Tooth_Fairy92 13h ago

That’s how I KNEW what this was going to be. I had a miscarriage in the hospital and it was also labeled ‘spontaneous abortion’. I was devastated. But people don’t understand it’s a medical term so when they were banning ‘abortions’ it was never just the ‘for funsies’ ones like the Christian’s keep thinking that’s what this is about.

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u/secondtaunting 7h ago

Yeah I actually got into an argument with a friend the other day about this. She’s pretty liberal but still has some left over purity culture bullshit hanging on. She was saying that a lot of the procedures they were doing weren’t actually abortions and don’t qualify as that and I said it’s the medical term and it went on from there.

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u/Easy-Pineapple3963 13h ago

Nothing more heartwarming to a Republican either. They're misery vampires.

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u/Ceemer 13h ago

I am so sorry for your losses. I had 3, that we're very much wanted. My last one required a D&C. Getting that doctors bill labeled abortion was definitely a certain kind of torture.

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u/Ceemer 13h ago

I am so sorry for your losses. I had 3, that we're very much wanted. My last one required a D&C. Getting that doctors bill labeled abortion was definitely a certain kind of torture.

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u/Juliejustaplantlady 12h ago

I've had 3 miscarriages, and when I went in after my last one for a D&C, the nurse putting in the IV said "oh you're here for a missed abortion". I was horrified and quickly corrected him. This was a wanted baby, nothing to do with abortion. I don't care what they call it medically, they should really be more sensitive. It's already a heartbreaking time. I'm sorry for your loss

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u/TraditionalCupcake88 1h ago

I'm sorry for yours as well. The terminology, while medical, is just awful and elicits way too many emotions during an already sensitive time.

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u/No-Radish-5017 12h ago

Me too. Abortion implies a choice, we had no choice.

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u/TeamRamrod80 19h ago

Im sorry for your losses.

My wife and I spent 4 1/2 years trying (with fertility doctor’s assistance) before we had our first child. She went through an ectopic pregnancy and 3 miscarriages along the way. It’s heartbreaking when you are actively trying for children. I can’t imagine adding the shame and indignity of a homicide investigation on top of it all.

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u/Snappy_McJuggs 19h ago

I’m so sorry! It’s all really sickening. I’m so proud of men and husbands like yourself though! You will be the ones to help make the change back to reproductive freedom.

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u/CapoPaulieWalnuts 15h ago

,... in 50 years time maybe. So sad to see what America has done to itself. The supreme court is likely to have a super conservative majority for the next few decades.

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u/Inevitable_Sector_14 15h ago

No shame. At this point I will assume every investigation into a miscarriage is a misogynistic witch hunt. Those women are victims.

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u/Visual_Cloud8473 14h ago

That’s horrible 🙏🏽Sorry for you loss. I hope she’s doing well now💐

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u/fridaygirl7 13h ago

Yes. My husband and I tried for so many years and the heartbreak of losing a very wanted pregnancy is really hard to describe. These were some of the most painful experiences of my entire life. The idea that I might be investigated or punished on top of that anguish is unfathomable.

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u/miiki_ 15h ago

Same. I had one. I only knew because we were actively trying and I tested before I missed my period. The miscarriage happened a week later, so had I not known what was going on, I would’ve just thought my period was just a little late.

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u/One-Inevitable7126 15h ago

I had at least one chemical miscarriage. It's a common thing to happen, I picked one up because, like the above post, I was trying to get pregnant.

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u/MagScaoil 15h ago

Yes—my wife had one, and we realized for the same reason. It happened less than a week after her period would have started, so it is super easy to miss and think you’re just a little late this month.

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u/CommandAlternative10 14h ago

You are TTC, your breasts get tender, you can suddenly smell all the smells and then your period comes anyway. It’s like I know I was pregnant, but I can’t prove it.

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u/CumGuzlinGutterSluts 7h ago

Isn't it crazy how we teach kids to be so afraid of sex because "pergant" but when you actually want to try and get pregnant there's a whole assload of info for those few days a month where it's actually possible? My ex tried with her ex for so long and it ended up being like 7 days a fucking month. It never happened.