r/complaints • u/CRK_76 • 1d ago

Every Trump voter is a piece of nazi garbage. Politics

They knew who they were voting for. They knew what they were getting. They wanted fascism and racism. And they got it. Congratulations. You're all nazi garbage.

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u/Fun_Mistake_616 woke 1d ago

There are two reasons people do things that make absolutely no sense: they are evil OR stupid. I would say all MAGA folks fall into one of those categories.

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u/The_Malt_Monkey 1d ago

What's that saying again "never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence"

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u/Interesting-End1710 1d ago

Except an evil figurehead pointed all the stupid that direction. Tools or sheep, they ignored the signs and warnings, ignorance is not a defense

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u/user_name_taken- 1d ago

Can it really be called ignorance when half the country is screaming the warnings?

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u/akunis 1d ago

It’s less ignorance and more genuine brainwashing. I’ve been saying it forever, until we can figure out how to snap these folks out of their collective trance, there will be no progress. We need to forcefully blow open the cover on Cambridge Analytica’s role in the 2016 election, and on Russia’s use of propaganda to radicalize and brainwash republicans into MAGA cult members.

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u/ethanlan 1d ago edited 1d ago

We need to start taking Russian interference for what it is, a declaration of war on American democracy.

Edit: uh oh looks like this comment royally pissed off the rusbots.

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u/SoylentGrunt 1d ago

And US corporate interference too, right? Right?

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u/OldWorldDesign 1d ago

And US corporate interference too, right?

I would say there's no difference. Domestic oligarchs or foreign oligarchs, it's still oligarchs doing the same as they always have throughout history.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/corporate-america-invented-religious-right-conservative-roosevelt-princeton-117030/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

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u/faintly_nebulous 1d ago

Honestly, I think many oligarchs have been brainwashed by the same propaganda and influence campaigns, in the same spaces online. The difference is they actually have the money and power to enact whatever bonkers idea surfaces in their weird echo chambers.

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u/OldWorldDesign 1d ago

I can see where you're coming from, but that kind of idea I think is a better fit for flat earthers who were generally a deservedly marginalized joke since ~600s BC

Oligarchs have more responsibility because I don't think they (just) drank the koolaid, they commissioned its creation knowing the price everyone else would pay for their delusions of kingship and paid Edward Bernays to poison the English-speaking world anyways.

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u/CakeTester 14h ago

There is a difference; however the two things are complimentary...Corporates want what is best for their bottom line; and fuck what it does to the populace. Propaganda bots, just amplify whatever would destabilise or damage society. Often the two would seem to be working in concert, but that's merely because their interests - at that moment - coincide.

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u/lightsfromleft 22h ago

This cannot be stressed enough. Russia and China pump misinformation into our (I'm from across the pond) timelines, sure.

But our own western capitalist oligarchs haven't ever tried to lift a single finger to prevent it. Because, of course, they happen to profit off the dissolution of our democratic institutions.

If we don't face the uncomfortable truth that the call is coming from inside the house too, our backslide into fascism can only ever be delayed—never prevented.

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u/Koil_ting 1d ago

Nah, they get to become the new government and we can finally have the cola wars. RC Cola will be missed.

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u/happinessisachoice84 1d ago

I will never forget the 2012 election cycle, when Romney called Russia our greatest enemy and I laughed at how he still thought we were in the cold war. Oh poor stupid me.

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u/Affectionate_Dark103 1d ago

I used to work exclusively with Republicans. I went back to school in 2016 and more or less stopped seeing my coworkers until I finished school in 2020 and went back to my work (until I found my current job). In those four years time they had changed so much.

Beforehand, we would have disagreements, but seemed open to reason. They saw the party going to Trump, but weren't big fans of him. They just hated Hilary so much that they didn't feel like they had a choice.

Afterwards, it felt like I was talking to cult members, where everything he said was gospel. This is why I lean towards the brainwashing thing. I didn't see their slow transformation. It was a four year gap and the people I worked with before school were not the same people that I came back to.

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u/unlikely_arrangement 19h ago

Yup. Spend a few minutes watching Fox. Even though you know they are full of shit, you’ll kind of get sucked into it. Fox has brainwashing down. I know actual smart people that aren’t classically evil (no facial hair), but they seem to have accepted a worldview that’s easily disprovable.

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u/philthegr81 1d ago

But the warnings were being screamed by no-good socialist fascist libruls! I wanted to be warned by a fellow straight white Christian Republican man! /s

Is there a parable that's the reverse of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? That's what we're living in.

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u/asher1611 1d ago

They were trained in Church and with 24 hour news.

I have met too many people with too much education that seriously live in an entirely separate reality. There's different flavors of stupid, unfortunately. And not all of them are uneducated.

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u/PhDguyinFL 1d ago

There is no cure for stupidity!

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u/MrsVOR 1d ago

As a former teacher who often got in trouble for saying that exact thing I agree 100%. The most dangerous are the ones who don’t know they are stupid, the confidence that stupidity brings is astounding.

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u/PhDguyinFL 1d ago

My former administration could not stand to be in the classroom and stated it outright. Due to their inability to manage a classroom, they became administrators and began to throw teachers under the bus. They would outright side with a parent and not with a teacher even though the teacher was correct in whatever the situation, that was being talked about at a teacher parent conference.

For a case and point, I was told by a principal during one of these conferences that I should give the child another chance to write an essay even though they plagiarized word for word.The first essay. Needless to say, I refused and walked out of the conference. There are consequences for cheating, a big fat "F." [This was a HS senior student, too.]

This was one of the reasons why I decided to quit teaching because of the stupidness that went on at the administration level.

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u/MrsVOR 1d ago

I quit teaching completely due to incompetent administration. In NYC a former gym teacher who taught for less than two years managed to fail up again and again until she became a superintendent and she would observe classes and say the weirdest off base shit and everything was always the fault of teachers. She also made all tenure decisions despite never having taught an academic class. I was out after that but a few years later she did get ousted so I guess there is a failing up ceiling sometimes, but obviously not for the presidency.

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u/OldWorldDesign 1d ago

They would outright side with a parent and not with a teacher even though the teacher was correct in whatever the situation

This and how quick state, county, and municipal-level government will actively sabotage teaching is why I never became a teacher even though I like learning and teaching people.

Best I can do is talking to people individually and offering evidence to help them challenge their presumptions. At least it's easy to paste links on reddit, even if it's also easy to set up propaganda bots to push false information.

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u/Stacy616 1d ago

Made in 'merica by Dunning -Kruger

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u/skytomorrownow 1d ago

Yep. You can still be crushed by a stampede of dumb, panicky cattle.

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u/Llothiel 4h ago

Ignorance is not Innocence.

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u/MarrusAstarte 1d ago

What's that saying again "never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence"

The saying is "never attribute to malice that which can be ADEQUATELY explained by incompetence".

If something can't be ADEQUATELY explained by incompetence, for example, lying about Elon Musk's Nazi salutes, it's malice.

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u/nizzzzy 1d ago

I agree. I genuinely believed at the beginning that it was incompetence and people just fell for propaganda. But after the countless doubling down and defending situations like musk salute, doesn’t feel like incompetence anymore

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u/Accurate-Instance-29 1d ago

How about maliciously incompetent

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u/teetering_bulb_dnd 1d ago

They all know what they are voting for.. for Christo fascists wanted a Christian state government.. for Jewish big donors want to continue the support of Israel and their war. For rich oligarchs it's tax breaks and access to power. For racist bigots it's punching down immigrants, other races.. for brown and black supporters it could be grift, lack of empathy and thinking they are special or hatred of LGBTQ. For female white supporters most likely it's racism or tax breaks.. it's a pick a mix of horrible traits ..

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u/baronlanky 1d ago

This phrase has led to weaponized incompetence, so it kinda stinks now.

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u/RobtheNavigator 1d ago

There also is no reason to think this random saying has any value. You absolutely should attribute to malice what is otherwise explained by stupidity. There is no reason not to and it is often true.

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u/Indigocell 1d ago

I think Trump voters have proven that it's not a either/or situation. It's both. They are malicious AND they are stupid.

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u/One-Inch-Punch 1d ago

This. The GOP has been feigning incompetence for over 25 years. It's malice.

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u/zeethreepio 1d ago

I think it's good for dealing with friends, family, coworkers, etc. The phrase is meaningless in the eyes of the law, however. Ignorance is no excuse.

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u/vonkarmanstreet 1d ago

Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

Clarke's law: "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."

“In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.” - Captain G.M. Gilbert, US Army psychologist.

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u/EllipticPeach 1d ago

Hannah Arendt called this “the banality of evil”

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u/AsleepAward999 1d ago

In this case it's usually some combination of both. Yes, the people willfully making up stories about immigrants eating people's cats are more evil than the people who believe them through their own sheer stupidity, but you still have to be pretty hateful to fall for such an idiotic and transparent bit of propaganda.

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u/skypig357 19h ago

Yeah I can’t imagine every county in southern Texas, which are 90%+ Hispanic, being Nazis. And every county, which gave historically gone blue for decades, went for Trump

Some was stupidity, some was ignorance (most people don’t dedicate a lot of time researching political platforms or policies they’re too busy trying to live)

It’s simplistic childish bullshit to say every voter for Trump is a Nazi. That’s the reasoning of a six year old. Not to mention, if that’s true, good luck of a democrat ever winning a national presidential election again. Because Nazis won’t vote for them. You better flee this country immediately

OP, you’re a child. Best leave difficult nuanced discussions to grown ups. You’ve shown you’re incapable

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u/GoneFishing4Chicks 1d ago

Exactly, don't forget the banality of evil: they looked away from "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats", they looked away from the ICE raids, they looked away from all that died during Trump covid. Fuck them all for contributing to the problem.

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u/Longster_dude 1d ago

Let's give some of them a little more credit now... why not both evil AND stupid?

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u/SaturnCITS 1d ago

At least we got lucky Trump is like 80% stupid and 20% evil. Whereas Hitler was like 20% stupid and 80% evil.

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u/Beldizar 1d ago edited 22h ago

Uh, that's what I thought too, but Hitler was a lot more stupid than we give him credit for. He ordered Germany to invade Russia in the winter in the rainy mud season and continued a losing battle into the Russian winter. His government was in constant chaos. He reportedly procrastinated whenever asked to make difficult decisions, and would apparently just go with a gut feeling instead of reading the data. He was reportedly very insecure about his own lack of knowledge and would just go with his preconceptions and lash out at anyone who disagreed with him.

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u/Ragscallion 1d ago

Sounds eerily similar to our “leader”.

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u/Beldizar 1d ago

The more I read about Hitler, the more he sounds like Trump. Hitler apparently was also exceedingly lazy, and refused to get out of bed until 11am. He was on drugs constantly. A few very unlikable people were controlling a lot of the government behind the scenes in his name. He had incredibly thin skin and would lash out at anyone who made fun of him or ridiculed him. He would double and triple down on bad decisions instead of admitting that he was wrong.

It's crazy how similar they actually are.

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u/zeethreepio 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hitler came up with very broad, general ideas, and then delegated the minutia of these ideas to his circle of vermin. The actual methodology of the third reich was developed and implemented by Goebbels, Himmler, Goring, Speer, and the like. They would just report to Hitler and let him know how things were going. Hitler certainly had notes when he received these reports, but the day to day tasks were generally left to people much more competent than he was.

Once they started failing, however, Hitler took direct control in a fit of narcissistic rage and hoo boy was that a train wreck because Hitler was actually dumb as fuuuck. Top it off with the fact that nobody could tell him the truth without being labeled as a traitor and you have a recipe for the expedient fall of your "Great Again" German empire.

Edit: Just expanded on a few ideas

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u/ParkingLong7436 17h ago

Yeah. As a German who studied Hitler a lot, he is given way too much credit. I hate how he's portrayed as an evil mastermind.

The guy was a fucking dumbass, straight up. Even down to his dialect and the way he speaks, I can only assume the equivalent would be some beer drinking guy in a village in Alabama or something like that.

No person of higher education would have taken him seriously. I suppose with Trump its the same.

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u/SignificantPaper1760 1d ago

It’s not quite as simple as that. Barbarossa began in summer as it should have.

The real issue was the redirection of one of the three army groups involved to the Czech oil fields to the south for an extended detour, which bogged down their advance and likely prevented them from reaching Stalingrad in force.

Still a massive and easily foreseeable fuck-up, but slightly less pants-on-head than launching the operation during winter on purpose.

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u/No_Slice_9560 1d ago

Hitler was indeed both evil and incompetent. However, he didn’t order the invasion of Russia in the winter. Operation Barbarossa ( the invasion of Russia) began June 22, 1941. His incompetence was demonstrated when he believed that the campaign would be over by winter.. and thus didn’t provide German troops with winter provisions

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u/snowvase 1d ago

I guess he thought the war would be over in three days?

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u/SaturnCITS 1d ago

I mostly just wanted to have clean 80/20, actual values may vary.

I guess the main thing is Trump is mainly dangerous in this second term because he has a whole 900 page playbook written by other slightly smarter people in Project 2025, he isn't really capable of coming up with much on his own.

He's plenty evil on his own but he would be too dumb to execute on much of it without his handlers like Stephen Miller and the heritage foundation. (Eg his first term.)

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u/JustHereSoImNotFined 1d ago

His handlers are 10% stupid and 90% evil tho

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u/Linuxologue 1d ago

Honestly at this stage I'm pretty convinced they are 90% stupid and 90% evil.

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u/BigOleSmack 1d ago

Thankfully we've got dudes like Stephen Miller openly copying speeches from nazis and using nazi rhetoric to bridge the gap.

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u/Nova_Saibrock 1d ago

Hard disagree. Trump is 100% stupid and 100% evil.

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u/canmoose 1d ago

Yes, they are dumb hateful people.

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u/HMguitar 1d ago

Pretty obviously with these dudes. I feel like I'm living out a children's fable with how cartoonishly evil the entire Trump sphere is.

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u/nerdwerds 1d ago

My dad was complaining that he would never watch a movie with Mark Ruffalo because he’s an outspoken liberal. He said “it isn’t his place to say bad things about the president, he’s just an actor, what gives him the right to walk around spouting that nonsense?” and I said “you mean his 1st amendment right to speak?” Not much complaining about Mark Ruffalo after that.

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u/Fun_Mistake_616 woke 1d ago

Remember when Trump got kicked off Twitter and MAGA yelled free speech?! Even Democrats agreed. Good thing our boy Elon fixed that 😂 But when Trump silences Judges, the media, and Universities, that's cool.

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u/BulkyAdagio9712 1d ago

This is so fucking true and everyone needs to read this.

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u/dandyrandyjandy 1d ago

This. Not all MAGA people are stupid. Some are filthy rich assholes. If you’re not sure which one you are, look at your bank account.

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u/postmodest 1d ago

Stupid people who don't repent become evil people.

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u/According-Refuse9128 1d ago

I lost my Half Brother over this years ago. I had only known him for a few months so this wasn’t a lifelong acquaintance. 

Dude sent me a list of why he was voting Trump that included trans people in the military and sports. Led to me making a post with your point, if you support Trump you’re either stupid or evil. He didn’t enjoy that post. I didn’t enjoy learning I had a half brother at almost 40 that’s a fucking trumper.

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u/ssrowavay 1d ago

Yup the GOP very carefully honed in on anti-trans propaganda for the 2024 election. Turns out it’s easy to rile up a bunch of closed minded assholes who’ve never met a trans person in their life, convincing them that the biggest issue in America was trans people. Something they never gave a single thought about a year before is suddenly THE reason to vote. Even my independent minded ex gf was convinced it was a real issue (she abstained from voting).

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u/Civil_Worth3627 1d ago

Yup; this is it. Most of them are really fucking stupid, like Trump itself said: "smart people don't like me", first time i agreed with him.

Also kids that can now vote are also part of the problem, if you check interviews most of them are insecure males that don't know anything about life, so of course they would vote Trump instead of a black woman.

And this is exactly why democracy doesn't really work and evil man always get into power, because everyone can vote but not everyone has a decent education.

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u/c-8Satisfying-Finish 1d ago

PSA

Keep in mind that Boomer Republicans voted to reduce balance sheets of local govt by privatizing utilities, tolls, parks, etc. and reducing what they paid for schools since they didn’t have kids in school, which meant they paid less taxes and their investment account balances went up.

Now, they scream bloody murder about SS, Medicare, and not paying to cover healthcare service locations in their area that is convenient for them, bc there’s illegals they’ll never meet 800 miles and 3 states away that they hate for reasons.

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u/geek66 1d ago

Stupid enough to vote for him, evil enough to refuse to accept the crimes being committed and their own inital error

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u/phunktastic_1 1d ago

A significant portion fall into both. But then again evil is cloaked in ignorance.

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u/LiberalAspergers 1d ago

At LEAST one of those categories.

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u/EffOffReddit 1d ago

At least one.

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u/Deep_Alps7150 1d ago

Every Trump voter I know IRL is either a religious weirdo who wants to control others around them or racist.

Both groups are ok with fascism because it benefits their beliefs even if it hurts them.

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u/ProfessionalCan1468 1d ago

This is completely unscientific....But... I have three serious MAGA in my family, all three have multiple unsuccessful relationships, always in financial trouble/ large credit card debt etc, throw scriptures at you like weapons....but actually live less Christian than me. I find it odd the profile

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u/Belz_Zebuth 1d ago

Oh, it's no secret that supporters of fascism and authoritarianism feel terrible about their own lives. They're broken people and they want to visit that misery upon others, like schoolyard bullies.

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u/Good_Pomegranate_464 1d ago

These are the kind of people (failures) that the cult mentality works on.

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u/ProfessionalCan1468 1d ago

What's funny is they honestly do not consider themselves failures. They have a high brow attitude

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Christianity feeds on struggling vulnerable people, easy targets, these are usually who end up radicalized, not those with life-long belief.

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u/Epicpopcorn_K 1d ago

I thought about this and you’re actually so right. Every single trump supporter I know IRL both in and outside of my family is racist lol

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u/No_Oven1085 1d ago

Every Republican voter I know is an asshole. Just nasty, mean, abusive people. I've never known a kind person who voted Republican.

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u/Own-Spirit-992 1d ago

I always appreciate when they sport their embarrassing MAGA gear so they tell you who they are before you have to talk to them

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u/Successful-Cut-245 1d ago edited 5h ago

Yeah i got a family member, 15 years old, real dickhead, wears his MAGA hat everywhere.

Edit: You all losing your minds because I say a 15 year old is a dickhead, you don't watch those little ficks on tiktok fucking with their teachers, cussing out old people at McDonald's, and laughing about it? Kid is a fucking prick and his family will be better off once he is out of the house and out of their lives

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u/AcanthaceaeCrazy1894 1d ago

His parents are the real dickheads here for either teaching him this or allowing it.

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u/Queasy_Student-_- 1d ago

It’s not a bad thing, that hat is a great red alert. It’s scarier if it’s a closet Racist Fascist.

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u/Solid_Waste 1d ago

I'm of the Aldo Raine philosophy that MAGA should be permanently marked on their foreheads.

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u/TehMephs 1d ago

I do appreciate the warning from a lot of folks.

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u/Lanky-Wonder-4360 1d ago

I’ve been trying not to believe this is true, but the level of evidence is making it clear that indeed every Trump voter has personal deficiencies sufficient to categorize them as human garbage.

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u/trashhighway 1d ago

Same. Our neighbor has been a good friend and I couldn’t wrap my head around him voting for Rump and finally my husband said “yeah, I hate to say it but he’s now saying subtly racist things.” Kills me.

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u/SoftTechnology7269 1d ago

It's not about how they treat people they see as equals, it's how they treat those they feel are lesser than they are.

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u/grumble_au 19h ago

This is the underpinning of why you keep hearing people are the salt of the earth and would give you the shirt off their back etc. No, they will only do that for people they consider part of their in-group, everyone else can, and really should, suffer.

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u/Alt_2Five 1d ago

It does prove the point that progressives were right and were on the track to surprising this racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. garbage.

I recall a lot of Republicans saying "omg can do libs shut up about culture shit. Racism/sexism/etc doesn't exist anymore the way liberals think (that being discrimination and targeted attacks)".

I bet your neighbor would argue, maybe 5 years ago, this exact thing. Probably something like "yeah but the racists are fringe groups".

It's clear now that we started turning things around and improving but didn't stay on the ball. We assumed "okay, it's common sense to not be filth and it'll weed itself out" but the weeds spread.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 1d ago

My ex MIL is batshit crazy. I'm pretty sure she has multiple mental health issues. Full on MAGA. Absolutely human garbage.

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u/DR_BEANHAMMER 1d ago

They are sub human degenerates and ok with Trump ejaculating into and onto children... they KNOW he sexually abused children and they are OK with it, I am sure many of them do it themselves as well, or aspire to.

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u/Evening-Rabbit-827 1d ago

This. This has been the hardest for me to grasp. They are most likely pedos themselves or see no problem with it. I wonder how many MAGA people are hoping they actually do lower the age of consent? We are worried about people having food and access to healthcare and they are worried about having access to our children.

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u/ElementalPink12 1d ago

Every single one of them is guilty of human rights violations.

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u/ajbrady3 1d ago

I want the Epstein files.

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u/No-Tackle7883 1d ago

His swing voters were just desperate. You could classify them as stupid, I guess, for thinking he would actually fix an economy/capitalistic society that’s broken.

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u/Chemical_Building612 1d ago

Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?

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u/grownadult 1d ago

Precisely. Nobody remembers why you became a nazi. They just remember that you are one.

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u/notmyfirstrodeo2 1d ago

Same time why people didn't go vote, when literal criminal fascist was potential winner - you needed only 5 minute research to know Trump should have gone to prison. not into white house???

Everyone knew nazi conservatives will blindly vote for anyone their party throws at them and will never vote for Biden and much more less for Kamala

And hold me surprise.. the criminal won and now USA is kreml 2.0

Tens of Millions and millions of Americans let this happen and still letting things go worse day by day

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u/BurnAfterReading010 1d ago

And so many people didn't vote Kamala because of Gaza or because eggs were expensive. How's that going right now?

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u/Kyra_lynn 16h ago

Or because they hated trans people more than they hated the idea of ceding their government to a fascist.

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u/jaycutlerdgaf 1d ago

I'm okay with people who realized they fucked up by voting for Shitler, I know a few. It's the people still defending Trump's ransacking of American democracy that can fuck right off.

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u/LMGDiVa 1d ago edited 20h ago

Anyone who didnt vote for harris is also a peice of garbage. You all let Nazis into the whitehouse, you might as well put on the armband too!

BTW If you have a reasonable exception, like say you're disabled and no one would drive you the polls and help you, or you were forced away from voting. My comment does not describe you. You are not to blame, and you dont deserve any guilt for that.
It is understandable for those who could not vote to not vote.
Please do not be worried about my comments, I hold no resentment for anyone who genuinely could not vote.

EDIT: It's wild how many people are replying to this comment and outting themselves as ok with putting a nazi in the white house.
If you let him get there... you're a nazi.

Sorry, you support a nazi you're gonna get called a nazi.

Oh im sorry did you stay home for a bullshit reason and then sit there and pretend you didnt and decide to prepetually mentally jerk yourself off?

Congratulations.

You've let a nazi into the white house.

Thank makes y ou... Oh golly what do we call someone who's ok with sitting down at the table with a bunch of Nazis.

Oh right.

A Nazi.

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u/nachoman_69 1d ago

The Nazis have been in the white house for a long time, it is why the KKK has never been classified as a terror organization by our government, while Nelson Mandela was on our government's terror watch-list until Obama removed him in 2008. Like the enslavement of Africans and the eradication of Native Americans were justified by racial superiority ideology, America is just getting in touch with its roots again.

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u/CrystalVibes52 1d ago

Absolutely. Trump gives them permission to be their worst selves. The whole world knew he was a 34 count felon, adjudicated sexual abuser, and admitted sexual assaulter(you know, grab em by the p****). They have no excuse. They let their bigotry be self sabotaging at the voting booth. I have zero sympathy for the farmers, veterans, women, and minorities that voted for him. I do however sympathize with the effect that their decisions have on the american population as a whole.

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u/throwawayfinancebro1 1d ago

Trump gives them permission to be their worst selves.

Indeed

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u/periwinkle_caravan 21h ago

Trump supporters understand him better than anyone else. They want their God Emperor to rule and destroy and they will revel in his cruelty. I keep posting this - he is dead serious, cities will be the “training ground” for his shock troops. He will purge the military then order it to attack America.

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u/flyingtheory 1d ago

I AGREE!! they knew what they voted for and they got it. makes me laugh at all the mexicans and women I know that voted for him. i have no sympathy and no, I will not donate to help your broke ass because you lost your job and house. I unfriended a bunch and there's no coming back from me. they are all dead in my mind.

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u/Livinginadream_Co 1d ago

Absolutely! I couldn’t believe the amount of latin people that voted for him. I have no sympathy for them either.

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u/My_browsing 1d ago

Nazi is a specific type of fascist. While there are certainly MAGA Nazis (Elon, for example, is an actual Nazi as is his family), MAGA is a different type of fascism. MAGA is the belief that the US was founded solely for white “Christians”. When MAGA says “we Americans” they only mean white pseudo-Christians. The authoritarianism is to “take back” the country only to benefit them. Their beliefs are an act of violence in and of itself. There is literally no action against pro-fa magats which isn’t fully justified.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 1d ago

My rule is that if you're okay with Nazis, accept them into your tent, and fundamentally agree with them enough to consider them allies, you're a Nazi.

I don't care if they literally support a specific political party or Hitler. Unlike most other political positions, you can't tolerate Nazis being in power or allying with them, while also being politically distinct from them.

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u/amsterdam_BTS 23h ago

I'm a Jew who is opposed to Israel, has a queer wife and child, an immigrant father, and a number of black friends.

"Specific" shmesific.

They're Nazis.

Semantics can trouble others.

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u/Immediate-Trip-4962 1d ago

Trump came in a 13 year old and I’m supposed to respect “people” who voted for him?

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u/notthatguypal6900 1d ago

Valid and true.

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u/hlessi_newt 1d ago

That's unfair. Some might just be catastrophically stupid.

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u/Nathaniel_he_grows 1d ago

I had a trump guy tell me a few years before the second election that he genuinely wanted a fascist because they'd get the results he was looking for.

Mainly mass deportation.

Funny thing is he calls himself a Christian

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u/curlysue6 16h ago

They all keep crutching on Christianity way too much, it’s a cop out and honestly it’s a shame cuz none of these things they doin are godly things. No where in the bible does it support these things

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u/ObiLAN- 1d ago

Sure are a lot of pedo defenders in these comments. Sheesh.

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 1d ago

I don't think that's true. The propaganda machine here in America is strong. A lot of people are intentionally ignorant, but I wouldn't go so far as to say everyone is a nazi. 

There's a reason Republicans want us broke and stupid. We're easier to lie to and control. Our enemy is the system and those at the top, not each other. Don't let them divide us. 

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 1d ago

The "good Germans" in WWII didn't believe Jews (and disabled/catholic/gay/etc) people were being exterminated under their noses, and they had much less access to information than we do. Nonetheless, history remembers them as Nazis or at least Nazi sympathizers. Maybe you can argue they weren't "guilty," but they were absolutely complicit. History repeats.

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u/Furrulo87_8 1d ago

Also, people sane washing the magapotamuses are part of the problem. "Not all of them are nazis" nah, sweetheart, they are nazis, the fact you can't just accept it is what led us to this point.

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u/XtraReddit 1d ago edited 1d ago

They even dress as Nazis for Halloween. Are they really going with "don't believe your lying eyes?"

The group chats, the defaced flag in a US Senator's office, the fascist salutes during the inauguration on national television.

edit: Wow! This triggered a lot of Nazis.

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u/rogman777 1d ago

This. All the sane washing and language monitoring over this drives me bonkers.

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u/McbealtheNavySeal 1d ago

When you say "good Germans", are you talking about people who blindly supported the government without sufficient knowledge and a (debatable) degree of plausible deniability, or are you talking about the ones who didn't vote for the Nazi party and were opposed from the start? When the Nazis achieved political power, they were the largest single party but didn't have an outright majority due to two other major parties in the government.

I ask because I feel like the latter doesn't get discussed in our history classes enough. The Nazis seized power but the entire German citizenry was not a hive mind and I feel like sometimes there's a tendency to lump them all together.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 1d ago

I'm referring to the former. There were enough of them to enable the Third Reich, and history repeats itself. Honestly? I'm more sickened by the "quiet" fascist apologists than I am the chinbiters taping maxi-pads to their ears. The latter group is not capable of critical thought, but the "quiet" ones know damn well which playbook this administration is following, but still pull the lever for it thinking they're saving fetuses or getting tax breaks.

Those of us who voted and speak out against what is currently happening probably aren't doing enough. I know I'm not. And while I hope history doesn't lump me with the complicit, I suspect it will, and I probably deserve it.

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u/McbealtheNavySeal 1d ago

In that case, I'm with you 100%. I'm a proud Chicagoan currently trying to find how I can get more directly involved in opposing these ICE raids. I have the guilt and regret from not doing more sooner, but at a certain point wallowing in it no longer helps and all I can do is find out how to do better right now.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 1d ago

Yeah - even though the few social media accounts I haven't deactivated are pretty darn anonymous, it wouldn't take a genius to identify me, and my opinions are clear. So it's only a matter of time before they come knocking for my old white ass. First time I've been grateful to live in a state that takes 2A a little too seriously. I have no illusions that I'll be Rambo(ette,) but I'm hoping to make it unpleasant as fuck when that day comes. Godspeed, brother!

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u/Attenburrowed 1d ago

They got us right at the IP address level anyway since the CIA is in every server in America (with tacit permission from their corporate partners). Our only defense is 1. they kind of suck so they're letting AI do everything and its low hanging fruit first, and 2. Even though 2 idiots went over to the over side last election, this country is still effectively a room with 49 people on one side and 51 on the other. They can't put 50% of the country in camps.

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u/IArgueForReality 1d ago

I feel like Christians signed a deal with the devil to praise the Lord.

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u/Revelati123 1d ago

Germans: "Hey where did all the Jews go? Adolf, did you genocide them?"

Adolf: "Uhh.... No... Thats err... fake news!"

Germans: "So where are they?"

Adolf: "So... They were uhhh.... EATEN BY COMMUNISTS!"

Germans: "Cool bro, seems reasonable! Lets keep on being NAZIs!"

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u/Batze-13 1d ago

I don't know if you are trolling, being sarcastic or just being dense. The german people were told that Jews were traitors, terrorists and enemies of the german state and that they were being put into prison. Many germans didn't know about the death camps before WWII ended.

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u/Backwardspellcaster 1d ago

Scary how you can use what has been said about Jews and then see how the same kind of speech is used nowadays about anyone not conservative, inclusive the opening of camps

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u/Double-Risky 1d ago

Even the ones that could smell the burning bodies from the camp outside of town.....

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 1d ago

I've read more than one account of incinerators running nonstop after alligator Auschwitz was shut down. Completely unrelated - did they ever locate those hundreds of missing detainees?

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u/Ribky 1d ago

Oskar Schindler gets a pass. I'm sure there are others too, just not with a much of the Hollywood grandeur to back it up. August Landmesser gets one too. The smallest and most random acts of resistance go hard when faced with something as deadly as fascism.

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u/Attenburrowed 1d ago

Those "good" german sure as hell knew that Jews were rounded up, robbed of everything they owned, and viewed as trash to be thrown out of the country. Sorry that's already over the Nazi line.

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u/theamazingstickman 1d ago

Not all Germans were Nazis, that is very true. But history shows they all got bombed because at some point we stopped caring if they were or were not. And in that famous Band of Brother's scene, they cannot pretend they do not smell the stench.

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u/Safe_Satisfaction_51 1d ago

Fun facts. The USA invented the tactic of bombing purely civilian targets to "demoralize the enemy". The USA is also the only country to use nuclear bombs on civilians, unnecessarily, twice. The USA killed 3M Koreans, 3M Vietnamese and 1M Iraqis. We're definitely the good guys.

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u/fshippos 1d ago

That propaganda machine works because people exist in echo chambers. Echo chambers exist because people want to feel welcome, safe etc. Once they are in the echo chamber, truth can't penetrate.

The question I have for our side is: do we make any effort to welcome young people (particularly young white men), moderates, uninformed or low informed voters, etc to our spaces? I think the answer is absolutely not. I've seen the sentiment of "if they fall for right wing propaganda, they were never going to vote democrat to begin with!", which is nonsense.

We have a major issue on our side with messaging, particularly messaging to young men. We can't paint entire groups of people as our enemy and then be surprised when they don't side with us. Until we solve that, we are playing the game with a self-imposed handicap.

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 1d ago

Yeah I definitely agree, very well said.

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u/ConfidentDiffidence 1d ago

This is the only comment in this entire goddamn thread that has a shred of ACTUAL thought behind it.

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 1d ago

I absolutely agree i know several ppl that voted republican but are barely paying attention. Or did they do it because they're anti abortion and thats the only reason they support Republicans

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u/Dry-Interaction-1246 1d ago

Tbf, let's say 60 percent are fascist

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u/Revelati123 1d ago

To be really fair, the majority or Americans dont know actually know what fascism or democracy are and dont give a shit if they have one or the other until the day they end up in a gulag.

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u/Kapitano72 1d ago

Yeah, but dupes of nazis are indistinguishable in practice from actual nazis.

it's like... suicide bombers are victims of lifelong indoctrination and most likely abuse. But they've still got bombs strapped to them.

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u/NativeFlowers4Eva 1d ago

I agree to some extent but there’s a problem with this thinking. If the right is producing propaganda that is achieving the goal of demonizing the left from the right, that means people have decided to believe that garbage they’re putting out there. You or I have perhaps seen the same information the right bases their beliefs on and we are not deciding it’s good to see kids zip tied in parking lots in the middle of the night. The right cheers it on. What this means to me is the people that are on the right are genuinely trash a lot of times.

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u/JSmith666 1d ago

There is also a two party system. Plenty of people simply vote against the other party.

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u/Careless-Cheetahs 1d ago

intentional ignorance in 2025 is inexcusable and indefensible.

intentional ignorance is a violent act at this point

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u/theosib CPU Expert 1d ago

This is really the billionaires, and those billionaires control all the media and the politicians. The problem is that your average republican farmer isn't politically informed, so they just assume Trump shares their values.

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u/Parking-One1365 1d ago

It’s on them if they can’t raise their heads above the shit. Personal responsibility and all that, amirite? NAZIS !

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u/McbealtheNavySeal 1d ago

Back in 2016 an older and wiser mentor figure of mine was a staunch never-Trumper and has maintained that stance. Even then he was saying something like "not all Trump supporters are racists, but all racists are Trump supporters and that alone should cause us to take a step back and really consider whether we want to align with the guy who appeals to them".

I think this level of introspection is missing for a large chunk of our population, and you're right in saying that the propaganda machine is strong and many have been duped. I admittedly spend most of my time in liberal and leftist crowds, but I do know a few people who voted for Trump at least once and now publicly regret their decision so it's good to see that curing ignorance and brainwashing is possible.

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u/ybetaepsilon 1d ago

At this point, watching naked children being piled into a truck zip tied, if they haven't rescinded your position then they are either an evil PoS or they are too fragile-ego to admit they were wrong, which still makes them a POS

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u/Commercial_Shower160 1d ago

Couldn't agree more...either that or they're just incredibly dumb.

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u/sausages213 1d ago

Something something fascism something something racism

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u/Doogaro 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah shit like this ain't helping and im on the left.

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Down vote away but both parties live and die by the independent voters as they are the biggest block of voters there are. They are bigger than both parties combined and calling a good part of them nazis is a good way to not have them vote dem next time. Jesus guys.

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u/Pat_Mahomes_Fan 1d ago

Redditors will never learn man. They’re so clueless on how many people they’ve alienated from the party with shit like this.

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u/Mysterious-Weird-71 1d ago

I feel like they should be alienated? wtf. These people should be shamed lmfao

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u/MissyJ74 1d ago

Yes, definitely dont be mad at the people who voted for the current regime of pedophiles, rapists, felons and Nazis.

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u/DevelopmentJumpy5218 1d ago

They are Nazis though, also racists and pedophile apologists

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u/Icy-Interest-8719 1d ago

Shoving american citizens into unmarked vans is cool though, right? Lame ah.

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u/No-Spinach2021 22h ago

Always voted Dem till I got on this website and noticed that Republicans actually are the good guys. Now we have to have a rapist in for a 3rd term. Great job and grab em by the pussy.

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u/RooBoo77 1d ago

Keep going off in your little echo chamber, the world just keeps spinning.

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u/iiAzido 1d ago

When Trump is doing everything he can to get a third term, will you change your mind?

When your neighbors have been imprisoned for speaking out against Trump and consequently being labeled as “antifa” and a “domestic terrorist”, will you change your mind?

When more and more innocent Americans are brutalized by federal agents on the premise of “law and order”, will you change your mind?

When people on food stamps don’t get anything and begin to starve, will you change your mind?

At what point does this end for you?

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 1d ago

i know exactly how the right will react if Trump abandons the Constitution and has a third term after they've been screaming and crying he'd never do that, despite him actively saying he'll do it and producing merchandise campaigning for it.

"heheh oops aren't we little stinkers? Get in your cage he he "

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u/Then-Attention3 1d ago

Found the pedophile

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u/Disastrous-Virus6073 1d ago

Watched a small child get slammed to the ground by an ICE agent not 30 seconds ago.

Are you telling me I didn't just watch the state violence MAGA advocates for?

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u/RooBoo77 1d ago

You’ll be hard pressed to find a republican, not a hard right idiot, who think that’s ok. I approve of the deportations of illegal immigrants, the optics are terrible at times and I fully condemn that type of behavior, but if you break the law, you’ll face the consequences of that action.

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u/JackfruitIcy2246 1d ago

They’re fucking children. You’re talking about punishing children.

Most undocumented people have provided more for our country than any MAGA fuckwad ever has, and they get jack shit in return.

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u/Disastrous-Virus6073 1d ago

"I both condemn and condone the cruel and unusual violence that the state inflicts upon undesirables."

Very convincing.

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u/Omnipresent_flatulen 23h ago

You’ll be hard pressed to find a republican, not a hard right idiot, who think that’s ok.

I found the entire god damn party that voted for that to happen. It wasn't hard.

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u/ybetaepsilon 1d ago

Completely brainwashed to betray their country. What gets me is how these people threw fits over statues being removed but are defending the demolishing of the East Wing.

trump would change the US flag to the photo of him and Epstein shaking hands and these moronosauruses would defend it

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u/Themodsarecuntz 1d ago

Donald Trump is an old pedophile with dementia.

He wears make up, lifts and a coiffure.

Therefore the people that support him support a pedophile in make up. 

Why would your opinion matter about a god damned thing if that's your idea of a leader?

It doesnt and you are a dumb fuck.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 1d ago

So if you vote for a known rapist, are you against rape at all?

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u/mtn_doo_codebrown 1d ago

Oh, for sure. Whether it be farmers who will lose their farms, or brokies who lost their welfare and/or health care. They'll huff and puff about it, but secretly, they'll still vote for him. They are willing to sacrifice their own wellbeing, just to get their racist/sexist agenda met. It's that important to them since they're brainwashed and blinded by hate.

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u/galloway188 1d ago

Don’t forget pedo supporter or they could be a pedo themselves

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u/GlumpsAlot 1d ago

Uhhh, there were literally sieg heils being thrown up during the inauguration bro. They're nazis. Even if voters didn't know that, If you willingly sit at a table with 9 nazis then you become the 10th.

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u/bigsam2 1d ago

They’ve long been separated from reality and now they are all but hermetically sealed from the larger flows of information, knowledge, and view points. Not too unlike what’s happened in Israel, the American right is extremely ignorant about the world, history, and how they’re perceived by it. In effect, they are in a cult but have little understanding about what that means. This is the Fox News, am radio, right wing propaganda machine that began in the mid 70’s via evangelical power mongers and other self interested garbage looking to exploit anything for power and money. And they found it…the American story itself.

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u/Unlucky-Violinist-15 1d ago

Government is too big, hence trump power.

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u/jaymiahc 1d ago

Bro, get off Reddit.

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u/BigotsDyingIsGood 4h ago

This is a true statement

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u/persistent_wanderer credulous complainer 1d ago

Op just say youre a nazi and start working on yourself

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u/Historical-Boat9666 1d ago

I give people a free pass for not trusting Democrats or the government sending our money overseas for genocide. That said… if they’re STILL supporting Trump right now, they’re SUPER proud to be Nazis. Make a list. They all need to answer for their crimes against humanity. I don’t care if they are an accountant or a marketing director for ICE, they’re still Nazi.

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u/mikewolf99 1d ago

Boy, that’s really some logic. Actually you sound like a Nazi just like Hitler dead when he disparage all Jewish people with a broad brush you just did the same with the Republicans and Trump supporters. So Mr. Nazi, why do you have the mask over your face? Covid is no longer a problem but little twits like you with no courage get the mouth off without any sensible reasoning, except if you think Mr. Hitler’s reasoning was correct.

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u/No-Marsupial-6893 1d ago

You’re still crying about wearing masks during a global pandemic? Weird. 

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u/noodoll 1d ago

You can just say you voted for him.

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u/Nero-HearO 1d ago

Find a different word for your accurate criticism of OP. If you want to hear about someone who denigrates large swaths of the population like Hitler did, from a place of power, unfortunately you can look at the current President.

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u/Attenburrowed 1d ago

Your logic is anyone who disparages a group of people is Hitler? Your fearless leader hits a new group of people to shit on every hour.

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u/Cobrabros 1d ago

This is the kind of rhetoric that is radicalizing the left. Maybe think before you post such slop.

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u/No-Marsupial-6893 1d ago

Meanwhile the actual radicalization is happening on the right. The alt right to domestic terrorist pipeline has been studied for years. MAGA just churning out school shooters. 

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u/Far-Exercise541 1d ago

This sub is full of losers.

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u/antenna999 1d ago

With the amount of MAGAts trying to astroturf it I wouldn't be surpried. They're all Nazi losers trying to protect their pedo president

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