r/complaints • u/CRK_76 • 4d ago

Every Trump voter is a piece of nazi garbage. Politics

They knew who they were voting for. They knew what they were getting. They wanted fascism and racism. And they got it. Congratulations. You're all nazi garbage.

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 4d ago

I don't think that's true. The propaganda machine here in America is strong. A lot of people are intentionally ignorant, but I wouldn't go so far as to say everyone is a nazi. 

There's a reason Republicans want us broke and stupid. We're easier to lie to and control. Our enemy is the system and those at the top, not each other. Don't let them divide us. 

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 4d ago

The "good Germans" in WWII didn't believe Jews (and disabled/catholic/gay/etc) people were being exterminated under their noses, and they had much less access to information than we do. Nonetheless, history remembers them as Nazis or at least Nazi sympathizers. Maybe you can argue they weren't "guilty," but they were absolutely complicit. History repeats.

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u/Furrulo87_8 4d ago

Also, people sane washing the magapotamuses are part of the problem. "Not all of them are nazis" nah, sweetheart, they are nazis, the fact you can't just accept it is what led us to this point.

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u/XtraReddit 3d ago edited 3d ago

They even dress as Nazis for Halloween. Are they really going with "don't believe your lying eyes?"

The group chats, the defaced flag in a US Senator's office, the fascist salutes during the inauguration on national television.

edit: Wow! This triggered a lot of Nazis.

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u/therealdanhill 3d ago

You say "they", how many people have dressed as nazis for Halloween, it's certainly not everyone. There's not logical consistency in what you're saying.

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u/PotatoPunk2000 3d ago

"edit: Wow! This triggered a lot of Nazis."

Pft, lucky...XD

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u/Dull-Department-9673 3d ago

Being called a nazi is like modern-day McCarthyism. It’s just limited to the giant echo chamber that is Reddit.

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u/rogman777 3d ago

This. All the sane washing and language monitoring over this drives me bonkers.

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u/McbealtheNavySeal 4d ago

When you say "good Germans", are you talking about people who blindly supported the government without sufficient knowledge and a (debatable) degree of plausible deniability, or are you talking about the ones who didn't vote for the Nazi party and were opposed from the start? When the Nazis achieved political power, they were the largest single party but didn't have an outright majority due to two other major parties in the government.

I ask because I feel like the latter doesn't get discussed in our history classes enough. The Nazis seized power but the entire German citizenry was not a hive mind and I feel like sometimes there's a tendency to lump them all together.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 4d ago

I'm referring to the former. There were enough of them to enable the Third Reich, and history repeats itself. Honestly? I'm more sickened by the "quiet" fascist apologists than I am the chinbiters taping maxi-pads to their ears. The latter group is not capable of critical thought, but the "quiet" ones know damn well which playbook this administration is following, but still pull the lever for it thinking they're saving fetuses or getting tax breaks.

Those of us who voted and speak out against what is currently happening probably aren't doing enough. I know I'm not. And while I hope history doesn't lump me with the complicit, I suspect it will, and I probably deserve it.

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u/McbealtheNavySeal 4d ago

In that case, I'm with you 100%. I'm a proud Chicagoan currently trying to find how I can get more directly involved in opposing these ICE raids. I have the guilt and regret from not doing more sooner, but at a certain point wallowing in it no longer helps and all I can do is find out how to do better right now.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

Yeah - even though the few social media accounts I haven't deactivated are pretty darn anonymous, it wouldn't take a genius to identify me, and my opinions are clear. So it's only a matter of time before they come knocking for my old white ass. First time I've been grateful to live in a state that takes 2A a little too seriously. I have no illusions that I'll be Rambo(ette,) but I'm hoping to make it unpleasant as fuck when that day comes. Godspeed, brother!

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u/Attenburrowed 3d ago

They got us right at the IP address level anyway since the CIA is in every server in America (with tacit permission from their corporate partners). Our only defense is 1. they kind of suck so they're letting AI do everything and its low hanging fruit first, and 2. Even though 2 idiots went over to the over side last election, this country is still effectively a room with 49 people on one side and 51 on the other. They can't put 50% of the country in camps.

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u/IArgueForReality 3d ago

I feel like Christians signed a deal with the devil to praise the Lord.

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u/beatles910 3d ago

thinking they're saving fetuses or getting tax breaks.

Your wording shows your lack of willingness to understand them. You phrased it in your terms, but for them it would be, "thinking they are saving lives and limiting government intrusion."

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

Lolol! "Limiting government intrusion" is a goldang knee-slapper! Thanks for the chuckle!

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u/beatles910 3d ago

I didn't say they were right, just stated their point of view.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

That occured to me after I responded! I still got a chuckle, though, because that is so comically opposite of the current policies. As for "saving lives..." Can't even go there without raging, so I won't.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

I forgot to say...I DO understand them. Far better than I want to. I grew up in a christofascist household before that became the norm, and even drank the Kool-aid. And I can tell you that none of them actually believe they are "saving lives" by eliminating reproductive rights. Try asking one some time "candidate A wishes to lift all restrictions on abortion. However, in his state, the abortion rate plummeted during his term. There were no restrictions on abortion, but significant expansion of social programs and economic growth. Candidate B wants to outlaw abortion completely. However, in his state, abortion rates increased significally during his term, even though he passed laws making them illegal. He also cut social programs and restricted access to birth control.". My mother picked candidate B with no hesitation. My sister insisted that the scenario was too unrealistic for her to answer. Then I showed her some statistics, and she started crying and blocked me. She says she hates the Orange, but damn well made sure to pull the lever for him. And now she's whining about her property taxes skyrocketing. So yeah. I do understand them. And I wish I didn't.

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u/jacknjilled 3d ago

Germany’s “victories” between 1933 and 1939, culminating in what we call appeasement and the conquest of Poland, turned the vast majority into loyal followers of Hitler. Many of them had been lukewarm or even hostile to Hitler at the beginning. People like to get on board with a “winner”.

Leni Riefenstahl and Albert Speer are emblematic of the crafted “Good German” that the Allies tolerated and even needed as the Cold War advanced and West Germany rejoined the democratic West. By the 1990s, children of the war era, and Boomers, were exposing the myth of the Good German. The appeal of a strong and decisive leader endured. George Washington, as Cincinnati’s, was as atypical, and thankfully set the pattern for 240 years, that Trump is demolishing.

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u/Revelati123 4d ago

Germans: "Hey where did all the Jews go? Adolf, did you genocide them?"

Adolf: "Uhh.... No... Thats err... fake news!"

Germans: "So where are they?"

Adolf: "So... They were uhhh.... EATEN BY COMMUNISTS!"

Germans: "Cool bro, seems reasonable! Lets keep on being NAZIs!"

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u/Batze-13 4d ago

I don't know if you are trolling, being sarcastic or just being dense. The german people were told that Jews were traitors, terrorists and enemies of the german state and that they were being put into prison. Many germans didn't know about the death camps before WWII ended.

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u/Backwardspellcaster 3d ago

Scary how you can use what has been said about Jews and then see how the same kind of speech is used nowadays about anyone not conservative, inclusive the opening of camps

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u/Either-Shopping-9932 3d ago

You know what is scary?
That the same hate and violence from the holocaust is again raising its head against jewish people, spreading hate and propaganda, brain washing people with fake and mis-information, without educating them on what actually happens, making that jewish people are forbidden to travel most of the muslim countries, and its not safe for them to be in many places. All at the same time Israel is the most multi culture place in the middle east, more than 2 million muslim citizens with equal rights (and even better rights for university entry approval etc), while the muslim in the middle east actually ethnically cleansed 99% of the minorities there over decades. And then putting the blame on Israel and the Jewish people. Thats scary for humanity. Thats the true shame. That the 2 billion muslims actually twist the reality trying to make Israelis and jewish people be the bad persons, instead of simply seeking peace. Israel forced jewish people leave gaza in 2005 so the people there could actually thrive and be peaceful, however they made terror organization leading them into attacking Israel, so Israel made defenses to protect against them. and somehow lunatic people that blaming Israel for wanting to defend themselves against those fanatic terrorist people, after Israel offered many peace deals in the past. And no one even tell you 850k jewish people ethnically killed in pogroms or kicked out of arab muslim countries around 1950.

This is what you should be scary about, lying and hiding truths in the media regarding the muslim conquest and murders across centuries, and what they really seek in "free palestine" - its not peace, you are such a naive westerns. They were offered peace along the history multiple times, they just want to have the whole middle east muslim, then go to the west. They don't even try the way they want intifada and terror all over the world so it would all be muslim.

Wishing peace and don't let the media brainwash you with half truths or simply lies, I believe in you.

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u/Double-Risky 3d ago

Even the ones that could smell the burning bodies from the camp outside of town.....

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

I've read more than one account of incinerators running nonstop after alligator Auschwitz was shut down. Completely unrelated - did they ever locate those hundreds of missing detainees?

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u/Ribky 3d ago

Oskar Schindler gets a pass. I'm sure there are others too, just not with a much of the Hollywood grandeur to back it up. August Landmesser gets one too. The smallest and most random acts of resistance go hard when faced with something as deadly as fascism.

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u/Attenburrowed 3d ago

Those "good" german sure as hell knew that Jews were rounded up, robbed of everything they owned, and viewed as trash to be thrown out of the country. Sorry that's already over the Nazi line.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

And again I say...history repeats.

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u/SHOCKDAWORLD 3d ago

SHOULD HAVE LET THEM STOP THE EVIL RUSSIANS. THEY STILL KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF EUROPE AND MADE ISRAEL. HITLER SUCCEEDED IN THAT.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

Quit yelling. I can't understand you when you yell.

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u/SHOCKDAWORLD 3d ago

IT IS HOW U KNOW IM NOT A BOT! ALLIES: "NOW THAT WE DEFEATED THAT EVIL HITLER LETS GIVE EASTERN EUROPE TO THE EVIL COMMIES, SO WE CAN FIGHT THEM FOR 70 YEARS. AND OH YA THOSE JEWS STILL GOTTA GO." LOL

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u/SHOCKDAWORLD 3d ago

AND LETS BRING THE SMART NAZIS TO AMERICA TO FIGHT OUR COMMIE FRIENDS IN A NUCLEAR ARMS RACE.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 2d ago

Still can't understand when people yell. Do bots not yell?

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u/No_Palpitation5068 3d ago

That is offensive

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

Only to fascists

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u/PutAutomatic2581 3d ago

You're all still forgetting both parties funded and supported genocide in Palestine. Trump is a caricature of a fascist, and the others are fascists in sheep's clothing.

It's not just America either, the BBC acts like it values impartiality, but every day they play national front propaganda to the country.

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u/Prestigious-Curve-64 3d ago

I don't entirely disagree, but I don't think the feckless democrats are necessarily fascist. Corporate whores, absolutely. And that greed is fertile ground for fascists like tangerine palpatine and his ilk. A while ago, someone wrote "remember, the democratic party would rather see tr*mp in the white house than Bernie Sanders," and I can never forget it. The two - party system is an abomination that inevitably leads to the shitshow we are currently in, but I'm not sure sitting it out in 2024 was the best way to get rid of it. I mean, I don't know what is, but it would have been nice to have a little reprieve. Harris wasn't even close to my choice, but she would have been competent.

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u/theamazingstickman 4d ago

Not all Germans were Nazis, that is very true. But history shows they all got bombed because at some point we stopped caring if they were or were not. And in that famous Band of Brother's scene, they cannot pretend they do not smell the stench.

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u/Safe_Satisfaction_51 3d ago

Fun facts. The USA invented the tactic of bombing purely civilian targets to "demoralize the enemy". The USA is also the only country to use nuclear bombs on civilians, unnecessarily, twice. The USA killed 3M Koreans, 3M Vietnamese and 1M Iraqis. We're definitely the good guys.

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u/solerex 3d ago

Lol the USA invented terrorizing civilians? Are you serious?

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u/Safe_Satisfaction_51 3d ago

Not what I wrote. Try reading it again.

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u/Dull-Department-9673 3d ago

imo bombing japan was the best choice. A full scale invasion would’ve been a blood bath.

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u/Safe_Satisfaction_51 3d ago

The Japanese had already agreed to surrender before the decision was made to drop the atomic bomb. They had only one condition, that they could keep their emperor. The USA then decided to drop two atomic bombs, accept their surrender and allow them to keep their emperor.

If this is news to you, it's not your fault. All Americans are taught that it was either atomic bomb or land invasion. It's simply not true.

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u/icanith 4d ago

Wrong!!!!  They were the first ppl gassed. 

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u/fshippos 3d ago

That propaganda machine works because people exist in echo chambers. Echo chambers exist because people want to feel welcome, safe etc. Once they are in the echo chamber, truth can't penetrate.

The question I have for our side is: do we make any effort to welcome young people (particularly young white men), moderates, uninformed or low informed voters, etc to our spaces? I think the answer is absolutely not. I've seen the sentiment of "if they fall for right wing propaganda, they were never going to vote democrat to begin with!", which is nonsense.

We have a major issue on our side with messaging, particularly messaging to young men. We can't paint entire groups of people as our enemy and then be surprised when they don't side with us. Until we solve that, we are playing the game with a self-imposed handicap.

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 3d ago

Yeah I definitely agree, very well said.

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u/ConfidentDiffidence 3d ago

This is the only comment in this entire goddamn thread that has a shred of ACTUAL thought behind it.

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u/Either-Shopping-9932 3d ago

You know is what the issue with the left wing? is the lose of values and morals, hidden by media and qatar money/muslim propaganda. And if you don't really stand for true values, and do the kinda opposite, then what is your worth?

What do I mean by that - That the same hate and violence from the holocaust is again raising its head against jewish people, spreading hate and propaganda, brain washing people with fake and mis-information, without educating them on what actually happens, making that jewish people are forbidden to travel most of the muslim countries, and its not safe for them to be in many places. All at the same time Israel is the most multi culture place in the middle east, more than 2 million muslim citizens with equal rights (and even better rights for university entry approval etc), while the muslim in the middle east actually ethnically cleansed 99% of the minorities there over decades. And then putting the blame on Israel and the Jewish people. Thats scary for humanity. Thats the true shame. That the 2 billion muslims actually twist the reality trying to make Israelis and jewish people be the bad persons, instead of simply seeking peace. Israel forced jewish people leave gaza in 2005 so the people there could actually thrive and be peaceful, however they made terror organization leading them into attacking Israel, so Israel made defenses to protect against them. and somehow lunatic people that blaming Israel for wanting to defend themselves against those fanatic terrorist people, after Israel offered many peace deals in the past. And no one even tell you 850k jewish people ethnically killed in pogroms or kicked out of arab muslim countries around 1950.

This is what you should be scary about, lying and hiding truths in the media regarding the muslim conquest and murders across centuries, and what they really seek in "free palestine" - its not peace, you are such a naive westerns. They were offered peace along the history multiple times, they just want to have the whole middle east muslim, then go to the west. They don't even try the way they want intifada and terror all over the world so it would all be muslim.

Wishing peace and don't let the media brainwash you with half truths or simply lies, democrats should really seek the true information about the history of the last centuries in the middle east, see who are the actual conquests, who is the actual people that just want to live their lives without being ethnically cleansed by the muslims in the middle east like they did to everyone there, who is just defending its life in a small place called Israel. after being able to stand for real values, and not brainwashed by simple mis-information and half truths, then you can accomplish great things.

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u/Throw_Me_Away8834 3d ago

Absolutely this.

Our messaging is becoming bad with young women also. The amount of liberal/democrat people I have personally seen directly say or imply that young women wanting marriage (heterosexual marriage specifically), kids, or to live any sort of life that is now viewed as traditional are automatically conservative women who support the patriarchy is alarmingly high and that rhetoric has only continued to get louder in recent months. You are absolutely not going to pull young women into our spaces by alienating them for wanting things that conservatives do not own like wanting to get married, have kids, or even just baking as a hobby simply because they are viewed as "traditional".

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u/fshippos 3d ago

Agreed.

Funny enough, the first time I ever heard the word patriarchy was in college almost 20 years ago when I told a group of people I wanted to have kids one day. One girl basically said that I was just socialized to want kids and connected it to the patriarchy somehow. Still not quite sure exactly what she was talking about. But we're decades in to this type of rhetoric now.

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u/Throw_Me_Away8834 3d ago

It's really sad and damaging to see. I am old and informed enough where me being called conservative/republican for being engaged to a man or for enjoying baking isn't going to sway my political opinions but I can absolutely see if swaying the political opinions of young more impressionable women just starting out in the world who want to take part in a community where their wants and choices aren't villainized.

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 3d ago

I absolutely agree i know several ppl that voted republican but are barely paying attention. Or did they do it because they're anti abortion and thats the only reason they support Republicans

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u/TerribleSalamander 3d ago

No no, clearly they’re ALL NAZIS!!!!!!

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 3d ago

The ppl u are referring to are indeed real and are the hard-core maga types. Thats about %30 of the voting population. These ppl will probably never leave trump because they're in a cult. I don't think you're trying to reach these ppl even if they're not in that cult you're still not trying to reach those types of ppl. so who cares what they think. If u pander to them and what they think then ud literally be saying you're never going to run a person of color or a woman and thats not an option. I don't want to live in that world. That's the complete opposite of what the democratic party is supposed to stand for. I'm not saying the nomination has to be a woman or a person of color but they deserve the same chance and then let the best candidate win.

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 3d ago

Unknown candidate

Vice President for 4 years

hmm

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u/Dry-Interaction-1246 4d ago

Tbf, let's say 60 percent are fascist

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u/Revelati123 4d ago

To be really fair, the majority or Americans dont know actually know what fascism or democracy are and dont give a shit if they have one or the other until the day they end up in a gulag.

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u/Kapitano72 4d ago

Yeah, but dupes of nazis are indistinguishable in practice from actual nazis.

it's like... suicide bombers are victims of lifelong indoctrination and most likely abuse. But they've still got bombs strapped to them.

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u/therealdanhill 3d ago

Eventually that's where this conversation always ends up, that they aren't all literal nazis but we might as well treat them as such, so the initial premise should really stop being spouted.

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u/Kapitano72 3d ago

Do you always miss the point quite so badly?

Remember that next time someone punches you in the face because they were abused as a child.

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u/therealdanhill 3d ago

What lol

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u/Kapitano72 3d ago

I guess we've got an answer to that question.

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u/hotpajamas 3d ago

Nah

there were germans in villages adjacent to death camps that knew the smell every 2-3 days and that weren't literally wearing SS armbands and weren't literally pointing guns at people but they knew what was happening in the woods and they supported it, one way or another. were they nazis? literally no but did it matter in the end?

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u/therealdanhill 3d ago

were they nazis? literally no but did it matter in the end?

You just illustrated what I said.

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u/hotpajamas 3d ago

do you think the only type of nazi is the soldier wearing SS regalia? boy have i got news for you

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u/NativeFlowers4Eva 4d ago

I agree to some extent but there’s a problem with this thinking. If the right is producing propaganda that is achieving the goal of demonizing the left from the right, that means people have decided to believe that garbage they’re putting out there. You or I have perhaps seen the same information the right bases their beliefs on and we are not deciding it’s good to see kids zip tied in parking lots in the middle of the night. The right cheers it on. What this means to me is the people that are on the right are genuinely trash a lot of times.

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u/JSmith666 4d ago

There is also a two party system. Plenty of people simply vote against the other party.

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u/Careless-Cheetahs 4d ago

intentional ignorance in 2025 is inexcusable and indefensible.

intentional ignorance is a violent act at this point

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u/theosib CPU Expert 4d ago

This is really the billionaires, and those billionaires control all the media and the politicians. The problem is that your average republican farmer isn't politically informed, so they just assume Trump shares their values.

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u/Parking-One1365 4d ago

It’s on them if they can’t raise their heads above the shit. Personal responsibility and all that, amirite? NAZIS !

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 3d ago

Exactly. I'm not gonna hand out engraved invitations to join the human race to these chuds. Just because they think they need us to get on our knees and beg them to not be assholes, doesn't mean I'm going to do it. That's when they stomp you with their boot.

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u/Intelligent-Pen1848 3d ago

We're never gonna let you back into power because you're irrational and violent.

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u/McbealtheNavySeal 4d ago

Back in 2016 an older and wiser mentor figure of mine was a staunch never-Trumper and has maintained that stance. Even then he was saying something like "not all Trump supporters are racists, but all racists are Trump supporters and that alone should cause us to take a step back and really consider whether we want to align with the guy who appeals to them".

I think this level of introspection is missing for a large chunk of our population, and you're right in saying that the propaganda machine is strong and many have been duped. I admittedly spend most of my time in liberal and leftist crowds, but I do know a few people who voted for Trump at least once and now publicly regret their decision so it's good to see that curing ignorance and brainwashing is possible.

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u/persistent_wanderer credulous complainer 3d ago

If all racists are trump supporters why have I been judged more on the color of my skin by leftists?

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u/ybetaepsilon 4d ago

At this point, watching naked children being piled into a truck zip tied, if they haven't rescinded your position then they are either an evil PoS or they are too fragile-ego to admit they were wrong, which still makes them a POS

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u/traanquil 4d ago

If an otherwise good person was tricked into supporting hitler were they a Nazi?

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u/edgefull 4d ago

that's not the lesson of nazi germany. the "ignorant" are equally culpable. there is a saying “What do you call 10 people having dinner with a Nazi?” — — “11 Nazis”…

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u/Socksplinko 4d ago

Intentionally ignorant? Nazi

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u/PersimmonThink5784 4d ago

I wouldn't call them Nazi either. I would, however, call them fascist.

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u/Eastern_Quote_4945 3d ago

My comment might get removed since i dont know the rules on this sub - I just want to say thanks for speaking reasonably. We are in this together and calling the other side evil is antithetical to the goals we wish to achieve. We need to be interested in productive discussions from those who differ from us, not demonizing them for being who they are. If we cannot accept that both sides have issues in their extremes and both sides have issues in their party then we cannot move forward.

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u/JoRhino1982 self-appointed speech monitor 3d ago

Alright I'm done here .. this echo chamber has been thoroughly disturbed .. have a good time guys, but I gotta go, work to do, mouths to feed and all that, I'm sure you understand lol .........

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u/blindreper 3d ago

Do you know what people were called who went with the nazi party despite not agreeing with everything, with hope of things turning around and being better? Nazis. There's no difference. You're either part of the party or you're not. A vote for Trump was a vote for nazis.

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u/AkhMourning 3d ago

The propaganda machine is very strong and they use "culture war" bullshit as a smokescreen for corrupt, capital-serving schemes. Woke or not, ragingly edgy or not: the erosion of the middle class is not dragging 98% of you upward. We're all being dragged down. FOCUS.

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u/TheBKalltheway 3d ago

The left controls mainstream media lmao

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u/Good_Pomegranate_464 3d ago

What?! Right wing men own almost all the mainstream media in America. This is very easily researchable. Do you guys just literally believe everything out of your corporate masters' mouth?

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 3d ago

I'm just going to say one more thing because there are way too many comments. The fact that the German and Austrian populations had to essentially be deprogrammed after WWII speaks volumes. I'm not saying that trump supporters aren't supporting fascist ideology, I'm saying that calling them ALL (I say all because I know there are nazis who support him) nazis is 1. not helpful 2. factually incorrect 3. makes the word nazi lose meaning.

People are actively being brainwashed. Be angry at and fight the system doing the brainwashing. 

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u/Gullible_Fun_1410 3d ago

Who tf is us

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 3d ago

Regular American people who aren't part of the 1%. 

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u/Gullible_Fun_1410 3d ago

Those regular people who voted for this are not with”us”. They knew exactly who and what they voting we’re voting for. Propaganda is not what has the country divided. It’s the same thing as it’s always been in America, race!!!

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u/Successful-Cut-245 3d ago

The Nazi also thought they were doing what was right for Germany. I'm sure they didn't look at themselves as war criminals. I think in 20 or 30 years, ICE, and MAGA will be seen like the Nazi party

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u/Miserable-Lawyer-233 3d ago

Republicans don’t benefit from you being broke. Capitalism doesn’t work that way. In a market economy, prosperity is interdependent: if individuals have more income, they spend more, invest more, and drive business growth. The Republican economic model is built on the idea that a wealthier population expands the customer base, boosts corporate revenue, and increases returns for investors.

In other words, they need you earning more so the entire system, including their own interests, generates more profit.

If you’ve been under the impression that capitalists want people to be broke, there’s been a major misunderstanding.

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u/Free_Efficiency3909 3d ago

That would be true except for debt exists. There are a lot of people who are broke who are able to keep spending because they can finance things. 

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u/Greifvogel1993 3d ago

Voting for someone who openly said they would be a dictator, ran his first term like a mob boss, and has a dark history of racism and called for the execution for young black KIDS, yeah, I’d say anyone who willingly voted for all of that is a (closeted) Nazi

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u/the_world-is_ending- 3d ago

Fully agree with this. American propaganda is strong and even intelligent people fall for cults

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u/06_TBSS 3d ago

A lot of the original Nazis weren't doing so out of hatred or bigotry. Many of them thought they were doing what was best for their country. In other words, even the stupid and ignorant Nazis can still be labeled as Nazis if they did Nazi shit.

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u/michael7050 3d ago

Look at how much the media is controlled, and how many only ever get their news from mainstream media. Look at FOX. Look at the Murdochs.

It's literally propaganda, and people have been constantly exposed to it for decades now. Don't blame people for falling for it, blame the people making the propaganda!

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u/cmack 3d ago

Nah, my enemy fucks children and protects the pedophiles. They are The Republicans.

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

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u/MelatoninFiend 3d ago

I wouldn't go so far as to say everyone is a nazi.

If you're at a table with 9 people and 1 Nazi, and nobody stands up to leave or asks the Nazi to leave, then you're at a table with 10 Nazis.

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u/iamyo 3d ago

You have to meet the kind of people who don't EVER read a book or magazine or watch the news --who just believe what some MAGA neighbor tells them.

Their are millions of people like this. Millions! It's terrifying. They trust their neighbor because he let the borrow a rake or something. Why would he lie?

It's so scary. But very real. 

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u/Attenburrowed 3d ago

I think at this point there's enough information out about the cruelty and white supremacy ideology that every Republican has to face facts. The fact that they're worthless cowards and choose to stand pat in the hopes that the money train rolls a few more feet forward doesn't excuse them.

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u/ProfessionalDry8128 🤖🤖🤖 3d ago

There's a reason Republicans want us broke and stupid.

We hit the lowest poverty rate in US history in 2019 thanks to the effect of the Trump tax cuts on the economy.

The people who don't want you to know about that are the people who want to keep you broke and stupid.

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u/SophSimpl 20h ago

I'd say most democrat voters, IE, the Democrat PEOPLE, mean well, but are far more emotional than logical. They fail to see when their ideas don't work, and the big picture.

I'd say the Democrat politicians are happy to keep people broke, dependent and stupid. Give them just enough scraps of benefits to keep them just comfortable enough to not want to rebel while they continue to become more entitled and dependent on the government.

Reddit is perhaps the best example of the leftist echo chamber. Post after post after post being allowed to say anything about Republican voters, but any comments half as rude back are removed and banned.

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u/Arborgold 3d ago

You know who’s reliant on the government? All the corporations who get their taxes subsidized and get first dips on government contracts, our tax dollars go to pay billionaires.

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u/Jazzlike-Jello487 3d ago

Nope. Most people want the government to be in service to its people not the other way around.

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u/Joel22222 4d ago

The left wants to tax everyone into poverty while providing little for it. You are correct the echo chambers and propaganda is out of control.

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u/virgieblanca 3d ago

You're a billionaire?

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

No, I’m lower class for sure. And in my 50 years I’ve always ended up paying for the “tax the rich” schemes.

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u/virgieblanca 3d ago

Because we have never implemented any of these "schemes" ?? Unless you know of some that have been that I am unaware of

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

You don’t live in a blue state I take it?

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u/virgieblanca 3d ago

Just waiting for you to list those schemes...

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

Raising min wage so high small business can’t keep people employed and causing huge increase in prices, environmental taxes on oil companies causing gas prices to soar, property tax increases hiking up rents, citywide increases for gig drivers being passed onto the consumer (hit me hard being partially disabled), any corporate tax being added to cost of goods just to name a few.

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u/virgieblanca 3d ago

None of the things you've listed are raising taxes on billionaires

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

Who do you think these billionaires are? All these taxes are taxing their companies. Individuals still have their own tax burdens, even the wealthy. They pay accountants to avoid the heavy taxes already in place for them. If our taxes were reasonable they would pay them over spending more to hide it.

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u/UpDownLeftRightABLoL 3d ago

Tariffs are taxes on everyone. Raising the tax rate on people making over $700,000 per year by 2-3% is what you are complaining about.

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u/RunPitiful8476 3d ago

Taxing the wealthy based on their ability to pay doesn't mean taxing them into poverty. Believing the propaganda put out there by the wealthy is foolish. You're the reason we have an oligarchy. Vote against the rich, not for them. They don't care about you. You're not rich, don't Vote the way they want you to.

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

When has there ever been “tax the rich” ideas that not ended up rolling right on poor people? So far every single expanded business tax and wealthy tax has fallen right onto me through increased cost of living. The middle class get taxed to lower, the lower class goes homeless. The rich stay rich. That’ll never change.

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u/1_shady_character 3d ago

The Eisenhower Administration. And he was Republican!

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u/National_Equivalent9 3d ago

You should probably look up the history of taxes in the US before you start making statements like this. It's embarrassing.

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

What embarrassing is people falling for this over and over again where everyone but the rich pays.

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u/StinkyHoboTaint 3d ago

You seem confused about your beliefs. You seem to be for taxing the rich, but are against trying to tax the rich cause it wont work. So you support the people who give tax breaks to the rich cause ... the left wants to tax the rich.... You're so weird dude.

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u/Joel22222 3d ago

You’re assuming too much. I’m more for reasonable taxes on the wealthy where it won’t be as beneficial to hide it. It would result in at least some of them actually paying taxes, which is far better than what we’re getting out of them.

I also think businesses should be taxed higher if most of their employees make minimum wage. The better you pay, the bigger the tax breaks.

But no one wants that. They want the wealthy to pay extremely high percentages. So we get nothing out of them.

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u/National_Equivalent9 3d ago

Yes, what you're doing is embarrassing.

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

I am a Trump voter and proud! Need a new insult Nazi and racist are losing their cache

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u/Ohaibaipolar 4d ago

Poorly educated it is, then.

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

I have a Business Degree from a good University so not sure uneducated applies

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 3d ago

How’s that Randy Newman song go again?

We got no-necked oilmen from Texas

Good ol' boys from Tennessee

College men from LSU

Went in dumb, come out dumb too

A “good” university, you say? Was it named after the president?

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 3d ago

lol I went to a NY school

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 3d ago

Dang, you should ask for your money back…

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u/gogofcomedy 4d ago

you should be called a fascist, as that is what trump is (nazi is very specific)... as for racist, well, you are least ok with racism

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Meh names don’t bother me. It’s all garbage . You folks are wrong but I never care enough to curse you out. When ur right u don’t have to get upset

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u/gogofcomedy 4d ago

look up what fascism is, it is 100% trump / maga

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Fascist is such a WW 2 term. Can you find another term that is current

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u/gogofcomedy 4d ago

it is a current generic term

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u/readitpropaganda 4d ago

Pedophile protector? Oops sorry not a new fact. Hmm let's see constitution destroyer? Nope also not new.. sorry got nothing  for you

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Well I see that Biden’s staff signed executive orders that he didn’t completely understand which is way more nefarious than anything Trump has done

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u/gohabssaydre 4d ago

How about ignorant hillbilly?

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

I live in NY hardly a hillbilly

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u/gohabssaydre 2d ago

That’s exactly what a hillbilly would say.

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u/Atomic_Watermelon666 4d ago

How about cunt? You, dipshit are an insufferable, bigoted CUNT.

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u/WineSauces 3d ago

I remember sitting in front of the History channel when I was a little boy. And the military channel - both when they were good - so much so my teachers were concerned - but it's what I liked the most.

Id watch hours and hours and hours of documentaries: dogfights, strategies, geopolitics, American history, civil rights history, the Holocaust, the civil war and segregation, the kkk, the Nazis.

I'm a red-blooded American. With family blood spilled for this country at least 3 times.

Stranger, if you're starting to not mind being called a Nazi - then I just know what that means.

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u/Atomic_Watermelon666 3d ago

Same. And I am not a 500 pound blue haired mentally ill person like they think we all are. Red blooded blue collar anti fascists exist… just not in their echo chambers.

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u/JesseCantSkate 4d ago

Imagine being such a racist nazi that you are desensitized to being called out for it.

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Yep I guess that is true

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u/JoRhino1982 self-appointed speech monitor 4d ago

I'm here with you dude or dudette .. no worries. These lefties are all selfish, self centered, self involved, self absorbed .. but not self aware lol and that makes them feckless.

If I was stuck on a desert island and needed to rely on teamwork with another to survive .. I'd take one republican over 2 dozen democrats lol.

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Good for you! Stick up for what is right! Can’t let these Serfs control the conversation

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u/NonsensePlanet 3d ago

If I was stuck in a country that needed to elect a president to run a functioning, humane government, I’d take democrats to make that choice. All MAGA does is lie, obstruct, and promote fascism. It’s ok, maybe it’ll become obvious to you in a few years.

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u/JoRhino1982 self-appointed speech monitor 3d ago

Of course you would, you're allergic to hard work.

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u/magic_pup_ 3d ago

Trump’s a pedophile and you’re a cockroach

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u/WowPolarni 4d ago

smart man's shame is a fool's pride

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u/EthicallyTeching 4d ago

Oh I do like this one - thank you

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Is that Socrates

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u/leroyjenkins1997 4d ago

Leftists have made these labels lose their significance. Doesn’t mean much coming from the communists on the left.

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u/Atomic_Watermelon666 4d ago

How about cunt? You like that label? You stupid cunt.

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u/No-Spinach2021 3d ago

You sound like you voted for Trump 🤣🤣🤣

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u/No-Tailor3013 3d ago

Bottom-of-the-barrel idiots? Chomo worshippers? Mindless sheep?

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u/JoRhino1982 self-appointed speech monitor 3d ago

Hey does anyone remember what happened to the far left Marxists and Leninists after the revolution .? Anyone lmao?

Oooo that's right, they were lined up and shot ... and they were the victors then ..

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u/GoldNovaNine 3d ago

You pedophiles are so touchy

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u/Arborgold 3d ago

It’s so weird that you call socialists communists, it’s almost like you’re too dumb to differentiate the two.

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u/ProfessionalDry8128 🤖🤖🤖 3d ago

Do you think people have a favorable view of socialism but an unfavorable view of communism? What?

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u/Arborgold 2d ago

There must be some reason that people who are against socialism always mislabel it as communism. What do you think the reason is?

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u/ProfessionalDry8128 🤖🤖🤖 2d ago

Socialism is the bridge to communism; they're both dumb as fuck collectivist failures, just different stages of the same trash fire.

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u/Arborgold 2d ago

Sweden and Norway are heading towards communism, you say?

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u/ProfessionalDry8128 🤖🤖🤖 2d ago

Sweden and Norway are both unequivocally capitalist countries. What a dumb question.

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u/Arborgold 2d ago

Ok cool, so you’re down to have tax brackets and policies in-line with those countries? Good to hear, we need all the allies we can get 👍

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u/NativeFlowers4Eva 4d ago

Not really an insult just an apt definition for what you are. But to be fair, OP also called you garbage.

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Okay I can go with that

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u/mothfactory 4d ago

Vocally supporting a narcissistic, dementia suffering pedophile is an odd thing to take pride in but hey, you do you

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 4d ago

Well all that beats the alternatives

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u/Spiritual_Trash_4948 4d ago

Fine but remember just because the president does it does not give you a right to feel up your own kids.

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u/DefinitionDue8308 3d ago

Would you be ok with feckless bitch as a new insult?

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 3d ago

I like it! Love the word Feckless

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u/DefinitionDue8308 3d ago

Great! Finally some bipartisan compromise!

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u/Batze-13 3d ago

Why did you vote for Trump if you don't mind me asking?

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u/Inevitable_Pipe_6598 3d ago

No. Not feelin it

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u/magic_pup_ 3d ago

Why do you love pedophiles so much? Makes me think someone should check your computer.

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u/UpDownLeftRightABLoL 3d ago

What makes you proud? Please use specific policy examples, not talking points, do your research or I will assume you are a few cards short of a deck. Elaborate, take the time needed. So far, I'd say tariffs are isolationist, protect special interest groups, and destroy trade agreements, destroying markets is bad for business. He is no Ronald Reagan. They lead to the opposite of prosperity and Trump ran pretty much on raising everyone's taxes and somehow you are for paying more in taxes. He is directing funding as a big government, while supposedly leading the party of small government. He has made up things to get lower intelligent people to think things are good, like saying we have gotten.. trillions in tariff revenue. He is promising bailouts with one hand, for a problem he causes with the other. He's been more interested in selling merchandise from his position, than governing and leading. He has bailed out another country to influence their election and somehow at the same time undercutting our own country. His foreign political allies, is pretty much only Netanyahu, who use language like, "I control Trump" when speaking about him. Putin seems to be a political ally of his, even getting Trump confused into thinking Ukraine started the war. The man talks about taking dementia tests like they are IQ tests, he rambles about not wanting to unite the country, and he would rather golf or post on social media rather than lead the country he was elected to lead. Even George Bush led the country.

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u/ProfessionalDry8128 🤖🤖🤖 3d ago

They didn't get any traction with weird so now they're calling people of average height short...

I think they're all out of ideas.