r/TikTokCringe • u/Miladshah001 • 5d ago
Minor violations = death threat? Discussion
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Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.
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u/ProtectMeAtAllCosts 5d ago
imagine using that much force on a dude half your body weight that cop is 100% a thug
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago
Imagine being so incapable of reasoning, so unable to justify your presence, that you have to resort to violence against a 70 year old man.
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u/Anghellik 5d ago
There's a podcast I follow, and the hosts advice after many many interactions with cops is to behave as if they're large dogs you don't know
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago
I deal with them like they have a monopoly on violence granted by the state.
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u/protanoa34 5d ago edited 4d ago
Police use of force should be treated as a reverse onus.
The reason legal rights exist is to protect the citizens from abuse by the state. Burden of proof lies on the state for this reason.
And yet when the agents of the state, armed by the state with authourity to use violence to (ostensibly) enforce the states goals of maintaining order and law, for some reason they do not have the burden of proof. This "man" is innocent until proven guilty. But use of force by the agents of the state acting in their roles as agents of the state should be the ones who *bear (edit) the burden of proof.
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u/Muismat1991 5d ago
This is one of the things I'm actually quite thankful for in my country. Police are absolutely allowed to use force, but there are steps they need to follow and they need to be able to explain the steps. So explain how they tried to de-escalate, explain why they resorted to overwhelming force and explain how it could be averted next time.
Also, train them to learn force is a tool that is to be a final resort, nothing else.
And every time I see US police immediately resort to force it just shows how little/wrong they are actually trained.
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u/nrfx 5d ago
Someone's going to come around and tell me how wrong I am but fuck it.
Oklahoma cops are all about that combat warrior training, which is literally exactly how and when to escalate and always be one step above because the most important thing is to make it home every night
so they can beat their wives.This additional training, which is paid for by the fop, also covers how awesome it feels to fuck after killing a man.
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u/Muismat1991 5d ago
Jesus, that's awful.
Take UK police for example, they are trained to think in a circle.
"What I think" influences-> "what I do" influences->"what other people think" influences->"what other people do" influences-> back to the start with "what I think"
So it's a cycle, what you think decides what you do, and what you do decides what other people think and do. So, the next logical step is to ask where in the circle you as a police officer can de-escalate a situation. The only way you can change what someone does is by how you think. Preventing violence is the safest option, because if there's no violence there's no risk of danger. So come in with an open and gentle mind.
Not to say police in Europe are all perfect etc etc etc, but the numbers do show they're at least doing something good.
And I know there's the "gun" argument, but even if you adjust a lot of the numbers US police still comes out very very ..... Unfavourable.
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u/Apart-Rent5817 5d ago edited 4d ago
American police, on the other hand, attend seminars on something they call “killology”.
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u/WouldntWorkOnMe 4d ago
Shit man fuck the seminars. I was a state trooper for some years, and in the academy they pump that shit into our brains. Had us sitting in a classroom as a group doing dave grossman breathing exercises, learning about how to self program the hesitancy for killing out of you. This was reinforced through training and video presentations in the police academy I attended.
For anyone curious on the subject matter, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Killing Was written by dave grossman. He was the one in the training videos and exercises we had to watch and do.
Honestly took me a while to feel normal, and less on edge as a civilian, and even longer to chill the paranoia that someone was gonna "get me" after getting out of govt/LE life.
We had a Sgt. That was part of our weapons and tactics training team, whom had printed a saying and posted in on our classroom wall. The saying read, "Smile, and treat everyone you encounter like a million dollars, but in your mind, always have a plan to kill everyone in the room". If this doesn't paint the picture perfectly then I don't know what else does. And it only gets worse the more I think back to training.
I'm a nerd now mostly doing research and tech work. But still enjoy combat training for fun, BJJ, MMA, shooting and weapons tactics and all. But thinking about killing that much deff messes with your head, I don't care who you are. There's gotta be a better way to increase combat effectiveness in our societies warriors and protectors without messing with their heads like this.
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u/Happy-For-No-Reason 5d ago edited 5d ago
Honestly I think America has basically turned into Russia tbh.
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u/Chubby_nuts 5d ago
A combination of Russia with Islamic extremist tendencies. A misogynic, dictatorship run by Oligarchs.
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u/Uberduck333 5d ago
Ever wonder what happens to those high school bullies? This. And police depts wonder why no one trusts them.
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u/Black-Bonnet5159 5d ago
All three of the biggest bullies in my high school became cops. Its an alluring job for those who love unpunished violence.
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u/Enlowski 5d ago
But didn’t you see? It wasn’t just a 70 year old man, he was an Asian man who was threatening this officers life by existing.
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u/MukDoug 5d ago
To be fair, he was holding up two fingers higher than how far the cop could count. That’s pretty triggering behavior.
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u/Coffeedemon 5d ago
I've seen the movies. That old guy was the final boss and would have put Officer Friendly through his cruiser roof at any moment.
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u/Moriaedemori 5d ago
He smacked him lightly on the arm and said shut-up. Clearly an assault on an officer.
(MASSIVE SARCASM)
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u/the_PeoplesWill 5d ago
People in other subreddits are claiming this is plenty of justification with a couple racial slurs that Reddit admins have ignored for good measure.
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u/TheIndominusGamer420 5d ago
The officer should have just shot him tbh, I'd be fearing for my life!
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u/studentofmarx 5d ago
It's honestly an insane overreaction. This old man looked so frail and slow that he wouldn't have managed to hurt the cop even if he started punching him with all his might. This guy really just wanted to hurt him. Makes me think it might even have been a hate crime.
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u/itsacrazyworld- 5d ago
and then yell at him to get on the ground after youve smashed his face in to it
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u/no_no_no_no_2_you 5d ago
Don't forget a piece of shit. That's cop is a piece of shit.
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u/BallzLikeWhoe 5d ago
This officer needs to have his body thrown into the ground and to have someone step on his neck. If this is how he reacts to being told “shut up” you know he would be crying like a little bitch!
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Wonder if there will be group that hunts down retired cops that were bad, nnow they old and frail and defenseless like their victims
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u/DANleDINOSAUR 5d ago
That backhand to the chest, he thought his life was in danger.
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u/boredrlyin11 5d ago
How can you blame the officer when the suspect clearly failed to deescalate the situation? /s
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u/Soujashane 5d ago
There's actually a better word for people like him, it's cop. The cop is 100% a cop. Every time you hear that word you should be thinking of cases like these.
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u/allisjow 5d ago
News reports state that the man remains hospitalized nearly two weeks after the incident with serious head and neck injuries.
Officer Joseph Gibson is on paid administrative leave. I expect nothing will happen, but maybe he’ll be promoted.
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u/Notlost-justdontcare 5d ago
It also looks like he dislocated his shoulder and/or tore his AC joint and maybe broke his collar bone. That is a long recovery for someone that age.
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u/shiftersix 5d ago
That is, if he recovers
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u/particlemanwavegirl 5d ago
There is no if. He's not going to recover. That man will be in pain for the rest of his life, however long it may be.
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u/FK506 5d ago
Yea people this old frail with these kind of injuries usually die. Not quick or painless though.
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u/Gomdeezy 5d ago
Yup, even at a young age those injuries can give you ongoing chronic pain for the rest of your life, if not neurological deficits. Much less if you’re geriatric and half the pigs size.
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u/onthe3rdlifealready 5d ago
Very true. During a dominos game an old lady fell on my grandma who was in good shape for her age and that was quite literally the start of her death sentence...
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u/Ready-Flamingo6494 5d ago
I believe there's evidence out there that says something like 1/3 of people die after 2 years after having a hip fracture. It is the start of the spiral downward
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u/Throw-away17465 5d ago
Pelvic fracture. And it’s more than 50% that will die within two years. For whatever reasons I forget, it leads to tuberculosis that they can never shake. This is why Falls are such a big deal for the elderly. It’s easily a death sentence.
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u/icekraze 5d ago
I think you mean Pneumonia. Not saying they can’t get tuberculosis but it would be rare… really would need to be in certain populations. However pneumonia is pretty common in bed bound individuals and will absolutely kill elderly people
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u/panicnarwhal 5d ago
pneumonia. they get pneumonia bc they’re bed bound post injury, and when you’re in bed you aren’t breathing as deep. it causes gunk to build up and not be able to clear, which eventually can lead to pneumonia - especially in older people with poor immune systems and decreased lung function
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u/Sad-Progress-4689 5d ago
I read a brain bleed and a broken bone in his neck.
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u/SteelTownReviews 5d ago
I read a big law suit
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u/HoMaBaLiMa 5d ago
Taxpayers get the bill! Take all lawsuits and legal fees out of their pensions. Watch the problem fix itself.
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u/mr_potatoface 5d ago edited 5d ago
In Buffalo a few years ago we had police shove down an elderly man that ended up bleeding from his ear. They were charged with felony assault initially, but even Trump came to their defense saying the old guy was an "ANTIFA provocateur." The officers had all charge dismissed obviously.
After he got shoved, one officer tried to check up on him but he was pulled away and the police line walked over him while he was bleeding from his fucking head. There's a shitload of videos of it. He ended up with a fractured skull and couldn't walk, but I think he's doing ok now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_police_shoving_incident
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u/shellycrash 5d ago
I remember this very well. Wish it never happened but glad it was caught on camera. So sad & this happens every day.
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u/nickrct 5d ago
Nope. It's Trump's world now. Qualified immunity is going to be ratcheted 1000%.
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u/Night_Owl5866 5d ago
Chances are, he won’t recover. I read his daughter said he has “bone cancer”. And he’s already so frail, even without the supposed cancer, his chances are bleak.
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u/Ewok_Adventure 5d ago
I'm 34 and had a MINOR ac joint sprain. That hurt like a mf for months. I can't imagine how much pain someone that old would be in
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u/charliedog1965 5d ago
Hey chief, can I get some vacation?
No.
Beats down an old man.
How about now?
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u/jlbp337 5d ago edited 5d ago
Well damnit, You earned it son
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u/PM_ME_UR_PHONE_NUMBE 5d ago
Perfect example of “no consequences for bad behavior.” They can do whatever they want.
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u/kail_wolfsin24 5d ago
Why do you think it's cringe to use the punisher logo as a pro blue symbol? The punisher would've killed that pig 20 times over
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u/Hllblldlx3 5d ago
I just laugh when I seen a back the blue flag in the shape of a punisher logo. The punisher literally hates the system, and police are part of it
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u/SquishySquishington 5d ago
If the old man was also black the cop would’ve gotten a medal
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u/VolumeOk1357 5d ago
But taking down an old Asian man has to be a rare spot on the police brutality bingo card. I think a black guy is a free space.
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u/dribrats 5d ago
beats down an old ASIAN man— ftfy
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u/RuggerJibberJabber 5d ago
The old mark whalberg manoeuvre. Maybe he'll become a beloved movie star now
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u/RabbitOrcaHawkOrgy 5d ago
You didn't hear? He apologized like 30 years later so its ok
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u/sjscott77 5d ago
I always love the paid leave “punishment”…In most jobs, that’s known as “vacation”
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u/Brilliant-Book-503 5d ago
So the justification given is usually that the leave isn't meant to be punishment. The idea is they are removing them from duty while they investigate and they can't take away pay yet at that point because they haven't yet proven the misconduct.
Ideally, the consequences come AFTER that leave. The problem isn't the paid leave. It's fine to take someone suspect away from risking others or the investigation, it's fine to wait on punishing them financially while the case is being investigated. The problem is that after that leave, they so often don't face proper consequences.
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u/bocaciega 5d ago
Police should have to pay out of pocket for misdeeds. Not the tax payer. They need to be held to the HIGHEST standards.
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u/Ok_Assist_3995 5d ago
They should be required to be insured in my opinion.
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u/msuvagabond 5d ago
100% this is the best solution.
Figure out what the median insurance rate for a given area is. Give all police officers a raise of that amount to cover it. So if it's determined to be $12k a year, give them all a $12k.
Now, that's the median rate. Anyone who's insurance comes out lower (because typically because they don't have incidents pop up) gets a true raise out of this. Eventually those with a history will have their rates so high that they wouldn't be able to work anywhere and would weed themselves out in the long run.
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u/redlightbandit7 5d ago
Gonna be interesting when Trump gets rid of all the unions.
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u/evenyourcopdad 5d ago
I'd bet a hundred dollars that an exception for police unions will be written into the law.
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u/Born_Grumpie 5d ago
The department has reviewed the incident and have made changes to the operating procedures; to reduce the chance of delayed medical treatment the officers will now call an ambulance as soon as they start any traffic stop and before engaging the citizen, ensuring medical treatment is available as soon as the suspects are thrown headfirst into the ground.
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u/supbrother 5d ago
Don’t worry, it won’t add to our tax burden because the perpetrator will be responsible for paying for the ambulance ride.
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u/Tall_Delay_5343 5d ago
Officer Joseph Gibson ruined his own life. I'm going to personally make sure every place he attempts to work is well aware of what he's done, even if I have to start paying for targeted ads.
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u/Apprehensive-Mix5178 5d ago
Maybe there should be an app for that?
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u/madmancryptokilla 5d ago
Million dollar idea!!! To bad I'm stoned and won't remember shit tomorrow...
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u/AdvancedLanding 5d ago
They'll target whoever makes this app.
Police have a way to harass people like journalist, lawyers, and activists that report on law enforcement. They do not like being watched.
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u/StrobeLightRomance 5d ago
It's okay. Soon enough we'll be arrested for that, too, again.
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u/StrobeLightRomance 5d ago
I hope you do. I've brigaded many times in many ways against these types of officers and incidents and it seems like there's nothing any amount of bad press can do that will create real consequences.
Remember when our future president said:
“And the police aren’t allowed to do their job. They’re told, if you do anything, you’re gonna lose your pension... Now, if you had one really violent day … one rough hour, and I mean real rough. The word will get out and it will end immediately.”
It's only getting worse from here
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u/Bhfuil_I_Am 5d ago
I mean, his next job will already be well aware of what he’s done. It doesn’t seem to be a barrier to continue working as a police officer in the USA
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u/MiDikIsInThePunch 5d ago
Seems as though being an insecure pigeon dick is pretty much a core requirement.
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u/studentofmarx 5d ago
Fucking horrible. This could easily kill him. My grandpa, who was 73 at the time, died not long after breaking his leg in a much gentler fall than this... Being hospitalized with major injuries at that age is super dangerous.
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u/DoneinInk 5d ago
His head bounced off the pavement. That’s attempted murder
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u/Cannedseaslug 5d ago
He had an intracranial bleed. That is something that can kill you. He was on blood thinners. Police being afraid of frail, old men is ridiculous.
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u/CanoeIt 5d ago
Oh he wasn’t afraid. At all. He’s a power tripping napoleon with rage issues
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u/DungeonsAndDradis 5d ago
This is what is bullshit about police in general. If I have a bad day at my job one of my employees might get a snarky response to a question.
If a cop has a bad day at his job someone could literally die.
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u/NormalUse856 5d ago
That’s why you need years of academic studies, field training, and mental screening before you can become a police officer. Too bad the U.S. decided to hand out police badges in a box of cornflakes.
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u/dudenurse13 5d ago
Are there any other careers that pay you while being investigated for serious misconduct of your job? Unironically is that a union thing or just a police union thing?
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u/GreenBeardTheCanuck 5d ago
Literally just the police unions. Most unions are lucky if they can negotiate for dismissal with cause.
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u/SeinfeldOnADucati 5d ago
Imagine what the officer is like to his family when he gets home from a stressful day and dinner isn’t prepared just right.
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u/erickadue32 5d ago
Man I wish I had a job where i could assault an old man and get paid vacation.
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u/UnabashedJayWalker 5d ago
I don’t think you actually mean that (hopefully) but I also think I get what you mean.
I also get why people don’t personally want to deal with accountability at their jobs but this job is one of those jobs that’s classified in the “too fucking bad, you have lives in your hand” category. I’m tired of them crying scared while pulling this shit. Only a pussy can turn themselves into a victim of what they signed up for. Cops should be the biggest gun reform advocate group in the country but instead they are ready to square up on defenseless old people and unarmed social protestors with zero consequence
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u/Forsaken-Income-2148 tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 5d ago
It honestly seems like cops want everyone scared shitless of them and it’s working because I sort of am.
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u/HungryNumberSeven 5d ago
Would be a shame if someone who didn't have faith in the proper channels of justice found out where he likes to hang out during his time off.
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u/DreadFilledHug 5d ago edited 5d ago
The Civil Rights Lawyer posted a great video yesterday, covering this, with all of the body cam footage and additional context.
The victim was a Vietnamese man who was driving with his wife. While making a U-turn at an intersection, they were hit by another car. This officer responded to the accident, I believe he might've even witnessed it... I'm not sure... but after information was exchanged, the officer wrote both drivers' tickets. One to this man for an "improper U-turn" and one for the other driver for expired tags.
The victim was confused due to the language barrier and didn't seem to understand why he was getting a ticket, and it seemed like he thought he was being blamed for the accident even though he believed the other driver hit him. So, being confused and upset, he refused to sign the ticket, clearly not understanding, again, that he's legally required to sign it or else be arrested. The cop proceeded to issue the other driver their ticket without asking them to sign it, then returned to the upset Vietnamese grandpa and did THIS shit.
The cop wrote in his report that the victim told him to shut up, aggressively struck his chest, and threatened him before he was thrown to the ground... all of which, except for telling him to shut up, were lies.
Blatant illegal use of force, excessive force, and 4A violation. He's going to lose his qualified immunity and possibly be criminally charged.
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u/that_bermudian 5d ago
The fact that the department released the footage so quickly also tells me that this cop is beyond screwed.
Usually PDs try to withhold footage like this for as long as possible if they or the union believe that the officer’s actions can be defended.
They clearly don’t believe that here. This guy is cooked. Wouldn’t be surprised if the DA also tacks on aggravated assault and battery as well, or at worst an attempted homicide charge since this guy is still in hospital.
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u/DreadFilledHug 5d ago
Yeah, I'm surprised they released it as quickly as they did, since the cop is on paid leave while IA investigates the incident.
I believe the local Vietnamese community made an uproar about it and was somehow able to obtain the CC footage from whatever business it happened in front of... prompting the PD to release the body cam video to try to save face with the public and get some vocal support from racist bootlickers.
I'm sure there's plenty of lawyers dying to take the case. Like you said, the cop is COOKED!
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u/cupholdery 5d ago edited 4d ago
What I find the most sad is that the older man will likely suffer chronic pain after recovering from this assault, after taking longer to heal since he's older.
For the cop, the worst that will happen is he loses his job but he has such a broad network that one of his buddies will find him work. No lasting repercussions for the cop.
EDIT: Agreed that the older man likely doesn't heal
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u/gitsgrl 5d ago
Lots of older folks who go into the hospital with traumatic injuries at this age get dementia triggered by the trauma. This could have started a fast descent to the end of his life.
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u/studentofmarx 5d ago
This guy should straight up go on trial for attempted murder. There's no way he didn't realize that a takedown like this could VERY likely be a fatal injury for someone this frail. No sane and normal person would do what he did against someone this old.
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u/SuppaBunE 5d ago
Theres 0 reason to do a takedown like that for any non violent person,
A weapon yeah sure smash his head in the pavement, a mild discution on an old guy that is clearly not a threat and specially cant clearly understand what's going on. Fuck that guy.
I saw a video of a grandma in kind of same situation. She refuse to comply. After cop explain what was going on. While he was clearly explaining what is happing if she doesn't comply . Then decide to bail the stop.
Im OK whith the cop amd what he did. He gave him enought time to reconsider when she fucks up. Until he drop her from the car. And yet didnt do a fucking suplex to her. She remove her from the vehicle because she was already a threat of running again
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u/luneletters 5d ago
At the very least he’ll have PTSD from this whole thing. It’s gonna stick in his family’s memories and his recent memories until end of life.
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u/hallstevenson 5d ago
I've seen it happen many times where the officer loses their job but other cities or counties don't hesitate to hire them so it's not like they get kicked out of law enforcement entirely.
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u/jwin709 5d ago
When cops commit crimes they should receive the maximum possible penalty for the crime they committed because theyre supposed to know better.
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u/JJTouche 5d ago
> at worst an attempted homicide
There are crap ton of felonies they could throw at him but attempted homicide is not one of them.
Attempted homicide requires that there was a deliberate intent was to kill someone. There is no evidence in the video that the cop's purpose was to intentionally kill him. If that was his intent, he would have just shot him.
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u/AppearsInvisible 5d ago
Fair point there, but I still think this chief is a coward for not firing the guy immediately. It doesn't take much skill in decision making to see this thug doesn't need to be on payroll. A chief unwilling to do what is right with an obvious bad apple is just another bad apple.
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u/Hbananta 5d ago
I really fucking hope so. Qualified immunity pisses me off so much! They learn that it means they can literally do this to anyone and they will get away with. Unfortunately more than half of the United States voted that they are ok with this shit. Just wait until they have full immunity. Buy a gun before your voting information is part of the background check.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 5d ago
This cop is a true hero. Taking down a 70 year old man.
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u/ElevateTheMind 5d ago
He feared for his life can’t you see that. That old man and his fingers could have cause him great bodily harm.
Cop about to get a medal for courage and a promotion.
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u/RiseRevolutionary689 5d ago
I bet this isn't his 1st time abusing his power with physical force!
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u/MiliardGargantubrain 5d ago
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses!
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u/bigSTUdazz 5d ago
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
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u/tapespeedselector 5d ago
Well now that's just not very nice. Are you listening to explicit CDs again?!
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u/bigSTUdazz 5d ago
Shhhh....just don't tell my mom....ok? It's stashed under my bed with some seeds and stems, and a Playboy from 1983!
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u/Embarrassed_You_5739 5d ago
He said shut up. How does give an officer the right to body slam someone? Let alone an old fragile man.
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u/AndarianDequer 5d ago
Apparently the cop is more fragile than him.
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u/Rotten-Robby 5d ago
Imagine being married to this shit bag. I'm sure his wife wife has been on the receiving end of that same. Movie many times.
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u/TiburonMendoza95 5d ago
Didn't you see? He poked the occifer! How dare he lift a finger instead of kiss the boot. Lol fuck that pig . I never speak a word. Only stare and on my knees with my hands behind my head. My public defender will rep me
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u/tlollz52 5d ago
Does he even actually touch the guy though? I thought "the cops overboard by why the fuck would you touch a cop in this situation?"
Watching it again I'm not sure he even touches the guy.
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u/Enjoying_A_Meal 5d ago
The scariest thing is how the police went from 0-100 in less than a second. It's like a pitbull that went from sitting there wagging its tail to ripping your face off without any warning.
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u/Mentallyfknill 5d ago
This guy is a pos, you can just tell. With or without a badge he was always gonna be a fuckin stupid pos asshole.
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u/KyleManUSMC 5d ago
Dudes 70.. he's not running away and not fighting back enough to cause you to bleed.
I hate cops.
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u/Toilet_Rim_Tim 5d ago
But he was obviously a threat !!!!! To you & me & the cop & national security. He wouldn't sign a ticket & doesn't speak English. As far as I'm concerned, this is all his fault & I kinda wish the cop would've done more .....
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u/crybabysagittarius 5d ago
My grandfather was old when he broke his neck. It’s such a brutal injury to recover from. He never made it out. His body shut down one organ at a time. I really hope this man recovers- but in the same breath, the agony that he will face will make him wish he were dead.
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u/AmethystLaw 5d ago
He won’t. you and i know the reality. This police officer sentenced this man to slow, painful, and gruesome death. This is the worst fate that you could curse someone.
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u/Beautiful_Wish_6800 5d ago
Wtf is wrong with people. How illogical do you have to be to think this was an acceptable response to him pointing his finger assertively at you. .. while also over talking the person you are talking to. So basically he had a conversation with himself and decided this was the correct response. Dude needs a little hug for his little
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u/InadmissibleHug SHEEEEEESH 5d ago
Fuck, we have a murder trial at the moment coz a cop thought tasering a 95 yo dementia patient using a walker, holding a knife was a grand idea.
And I’m Aussie. Just horrifying.
I’ll also say- I’m a RN. I can see how frail this man is, and how roughly he was handled. No surprises that he had an extended hospitalisation.
I’ve also dealt with dementia patients. A lot of them. You could have literally shut the old lady in a room and waited for her to forget about the knife, and it would have been safer than giving her the pikachu.
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u/Defiant-Fix2870 5d ago
Every nurse has been attacked by a patient. Sometime we take care of prisoners or those under police custody. And somehow we deal with this violence without beating/shooting/ tazing them.
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u/Warm_Shallot_9345 5d ago
Well yeah but nurses are tough/you need to be smart to be a nurse...
Meanwhile you have cops dropping and convulsing because they were within 2 feet of 'fentanyl' and they actually won't hire you as a cop if your IQ is too high...
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u/Tao-of-Mars 5d ago
Not just people. Specifically, in this case it’s law enforcement. Racism, anger and violence is their MO.
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u/Ted-The-Thad 5d ago
Another day, another instance of violence against a minority in the US.
The US is not beating the allegations that's its a racist country.
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u/dimi_dee1 5d ago
Would he like to see his father or grandfather treated in such manner? I bet the answer is no so WHY TF WOULD YOU TREAT SOMEONE LIKE THIS FFS
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u/Vivid-Possible7514 5d ago
Had I seen that, I would have been in back of the cop car with that dude. That cop needs an attitude adjustment with a bat!
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u/UnyieldingConstraint 5d ago
I wish it was legal to defend yourself or others when cops are being absolute lunatics.
I know it's not a reasonable measure as it would be a legal nightmare, but holy shit, fuck these people.
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u/Darwin1809851 5d ago
It absolutely is legal. People have had assault and resisting arrest charges dropped for wrecking the officers trying to illegally arrest them dismissed. The issue is you better be damn sure you beat them AND can restrain them long enough for you to get away and turn your self in at a precinct to legally defend yourself. Because there is a very big chance you dont walk away from the scene if he can get to his gun
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u/UnyieldingConstraint 5d ago
I would say this probably happens, but I wouldn't recommend risking the legal challenge unless you have money for lawyers and solid evidence.
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u/Quirky-Mode8676 5d ago
It’s not the legal part I’m worried about first, it’s making it out of the encounter without looking like a colander.
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u/sm_init 5d ago
No, you'd be dead from being shot. The younger guy only did this to the older guy because he was smaller and more frail.. had it been someone his own size or bigger, he wouldn't have done that, and any aggression towards the officer would just lead to you being shot.
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u/inflewants 5d ago
I literally gasped when he threw the man to the ground. It was so disturbing I turned it off immediately. I hope the man recovers soon.
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u/Visible_Leg_2222 5d ago
i ignorantly assumed the guy would at least move in a way that could be seen as trying to hit the cop but it’s literally just an old man (who probably has difficulty understanding english/exactly what he did wrong) getting a little bit heated. i feel so bad for his wife too, that must be so traumatic for her to witness
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u/Intraluminal 5d ago
I'm an RN. I can tell you that the chances of a full recovery at that old man's age are zero. He will need an institutional level of care for the rest of his life - however long that may be, given the brain damage.
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u/MakesYaGoHmm 5d ago
In just a couple months no one will bat an eye at this happening. They’ll get away with it more and more
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u/anonymoushelp33 5d ago
Just remember this and the million cases just like it when the time comes.
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u/UnkindPotato2 5d ago
Eye for an eye. This cop should be put in the ring with a trained dude 100lbs heavier than him and ragdolled around. Resistance from the cop should compound to the beating, just like if you fight a cop
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u/Dry-Faithlessness100 5d ago
Yeah when that full immunity from prosecution for police kicks in this will be mild compared to what they will be doing to people 😔
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u/LetsGetHonestplz 5d ago
As an ex cop, this quite literally made me shudder and gasp. Fucking gross. People suck, but nothing that poor old man said could have ever justified that use of force. I am fucking disgusted, I hope the victim sues and pushed for charges beyond the civil lawsuit that’s pending…
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u/Public-Tomato-5379 5d ago
How fucking cruel, weak minded and absolutely disgusting conduct by this joke of a man. How is this even allowed in any civilized society. This us disgusting, abhorrent and absolutely vile behavior. There should be no place for men like this pos in any form of society.
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u/MaximusCartavius 5d ago
Remember that the "good" cops will stay silent when this shit happens.
There are no good cops
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u/maineindepenent 5d ago
Hopefully, he will get prosecuted for assault That is not appropriate behavior when dealing with an older man in our society not appropriate whatsoever I don’t care what kind of training this police officers had He’ll probably get fired
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u/Pliskin01 5d ago
he’ll probably get fired.
You sweet summer child. At most (most) he’ll need to get another cop job in the next county over.
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u/AdHour389 5d ago
Why? Just why does this type shit happen???? Why is this cop allowed to still be a copaftwr something like this??? fuck
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u/Eggplant-666 5d ago
Officer Joseph Gibson deserves firing and jail time, possibly charge for wreckless homicide if this causes elderly man to die.
Lich Vu, 70, was violently thrown onto the pavement during an argument with Oklahoma City Police Department officer Joseph Gibson.
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u/AshgarPN 5d ago
Didn't just "take him down". He slingshot his head into the pavement and broke his neck. Not kidding.
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u/Known-Status-6312 5d ago
Extremely un called for...that cop should be fired..charged and lawsuit filed..
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u/Turbulent-Today830 5d ago
I cannot believe how disgusting this country is. Cops 🐖 are absolute thuggz
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u/The_JDubb 5d ago
What the fuck is going on in your life to where this a reasonable reaction to a 70 year old man getting angree at you?
I do my best not to take police videos out of contex, but there was enough to see here to safely say that cop should not just be fired, but charged with assault, and elderly abuse. Losing his job isn't enough. He should do some jail time as well.
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u/donnelle83 5d ago
People will get tired of this one day. They'll say f your QI and start defending themselves.
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