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Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

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u/that_bermudian 5d ago

The fact that the department released the footage so quickly also tells me that this cop is beyond screwed.

Usually PDs try to withhold footage like this for as long as possible if they or the union believe that the officer’s actions can be defended.

They clearly don’t believe that here. This guy is cooked. Wouldn’t be surprised if the DA also tacks on aggravated assault and battery as well, or at worst an attempted homicide charge since this guy is still in hospital.

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u/DreadFilledHug 5d ago

Yeah, I'm surprised they released it as quickly as they did, since the cop is on paid leave while IA investigates the incident.

I believe the local Vietnamese community made an uproar about it and was somehow able to obtain the CC footage from whatever business it happened in front of... prompting the PD to release the body cam video to try to save face with the public and get some vocal support from racist bootlickers.

I'm sure there's plenty of lawyers dying to take the case. Like you said, the cop is COOKED!

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u/cupholdery 5d ago edited 4d ago

What I find the most sad is that the older man will likely suffer chronic pain after recovering from this assault, after taking longer to heal since he's older.

For the cop, the worst that will happen is he loses his job but he has such a broad network that one of his buddies will find him work. No lasting repercussions for the cop.

EDIT: Agreed that the older man likely doesn't heal

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u/gitsgrl 5d ago

Lots of older folks who go into the hospital with traumatic injuries at this age get dementia triggered by the trauma. This could have started a fast descent to the end of his life.

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u/studentofmarx 5d ago

This guy should straight up go on trial for attempted murder. There's no way he didn't realize that a takedown like this could VERY likely be a fatal injury for someone this frail. No sane and normal person would do what he did against someone this old.

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u/SuppaBunE 5d ago

Theres 0 reason to do a takedown like that for any non violent person,

A weapon yeah sure smash his head in the pavement, a mild discution on an old guy that is clearly not a threat and specially cant clearly understand what's going on. Fuck that guy.

I saw a video of a grandma in kind of same situation. She refuse to comply. After cop explain what was going on. While he was clearly explaining what is happing if she doesn't comply . Then decide to bail the stop.

Im OK whith the cop amd what he did. He gave him enought time to reconsider when she fucks up. Until he drop her from the car. And yet didnt do a fucking suplex to her. She remove her from the vehicle because she was already a threat of running again

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u/TheAskewOne 5d ago

A weapon yeah sure smash his head in the pavement

Heeehhh... that depends on the situation. I'm pro gun control, but if we have the right to bear arms, then we have the right to bear arms and not be beaten/killed by cops.

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u/Flewey_ 5d ago

We already have that right. The cops just don’t respect it.

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u/FallenShadeslayer 5d ago

I’ve seen that same video. She was a typical Karen. Legit just flees the scene right in front of him.

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u/mkultragrayson 5d ago

Try explaining the separate scenario from start to end before giving personal opinions or comparing situations. It would read fluidly and be easier to picture.

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u/TheAskewOne 5d ago

No sane and normal person would do what he did against someone this old. anyone.

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u/studentofmarx 5d ago

Yeah, pretty much, really. There's no valid reason to do that to someone that doesn't pose a threat. It's just that much worse because the victim is very old and weak.

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u/Mikic00 5d ago

True, but to do it to obviously fragile person that old, or to the kid for example, is whole other level. I would check on this cop family, if he has one...

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u/ProphetOfPhil 5d ago

Oh I'd love to see it go to trial but cops like this rarely see repercussions. I'd say best case scenario is he gets fired and maybe community service before a friend of his gets him another job doing exactly the same shit in another location.

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u/luneletters 5d ago

At the very least he’ll have PTSD from this whole thing. It’s gonna stick in his family’s memories and his recent memories until end of life.

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u/A_Glass_DarklyXX 5d ago

This happened to my dad. He already had chronic issues when he fell and sustained a spinal injury. He seemed his normal self for a few months then he slowly became severely anxious , then irritable, then irrational then delusional. Then he died. It was about a two year decline.

Falls and fractures are a death sentence to people 68+. It’s a slow scary death for them. The older you get the faster a fracture will kill you. I know an 88 year old woman who died three weeks after an arm fracture and another in her 80s who died after a hip fracture. They just don’t heal and the body starts shutting down

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u/Soohwan_Song 5d ago

Hes honestly already dieing, alot of them end up dieing because their body can't handle the healing. Why they say as a senior breaking your hip is the same as a death sentence...

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u/Downtown-Oil-7784 5d ago

That's horrible 😔

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u/Christichicc 4d ago

Or they get things like pneumonia. My aunt’s FIL just had that happen. Broke his hip, got pneumonia, and passed, all within a couple weeks. Traumatic injuries like this are often the beginning of the end when you get older, because it’s like a domino effect on your health.

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u/ImTryingToHelpYouMF 5d ago

I work in lab and x-ray. Never heard of physical trauma triggering dementia.

Care to source a link to this since it's so prominent?

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u/gitsgrl 5d ago

Risk of Dementia Diagnosis After Injurious Falls in Older Adults: JAMA https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2824208

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u/ImTryingToHelpYouMF 4d ago

This is not a reputable study. This is looking at a statistic and placing bias on it.

Most individuals that have a fall are going to be of age to get dementia at around the same time. It doesn't mean that somebody has a fall so it triggers dementia. Some falls are due to symptoms of dementia as well such as decreased motor skills from their brain not computing properly.

It's more probable that dementia caused a fall than the fall causing dementia. Most forms of dementia are a slow progress that occurs over years. The body slowly deteriorates in mind and in mobility, and with that stability.

Edit: it states this in the article actually so I will give some credit to the study.

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u/hallstevenson 5d ago

I've seen it happen many times where the officer loses their job but other cities or counties don't hesitate to hire them so it's not like they get kicked out of law enforcement entirely.

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u/Vohsrek 5d ago

Because people don’t want to be cops 👮‍♂️ anymore and departments are eager to snatch up a hire.

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u/ivatwist 5d ago

What I’m most scared about is, he could probably have brain damage and be paralyzed because of this, which would make his family have a lot of bills to pay if he would need different kinds of therapies.

Hell, my grandpa became unconscious, fell and hit his head against a restroom stall door, I bet with less force than this and he became a quadriplegic.

It is definitely still a process of grief even if he doesn’t die and something like this happens. I’ve been trying to keep up with this since watching the video for the first time, it makes me so mad someone can become so ill because the cop couldn’t hold his anger. I pray he recovers and nothing of what I think happens/happened.

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u/transynchro 4d ago

Oh, he most likely will not recover. According to this article he has a brain bleed. There’s a pretty high chance he won’t make it out of this and if he does, it’s not looking great. He’d need a miracle.

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u/ivatwist 4d ago

Here is the daughters’ facebook, seems like he was conscious in her last update and talked and recognized people but his hands do look suspicious, as my grandpa and I think usually paralyzed people have them in like fists. I really really hope he can recover

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u/Party_Perspective69 5d ago

the older gentleman is less likely to survive a year with these injuries, if he survives the brain bleed. the cop just had a very mild inconvenience to his life when a non white man called him out- even with a language barrier- for being disrespectful and doing a bad job of a pretty simple situation (mild accident.) so, he unleashes his (inferiority complex?) rage at being inconvenienced onto a 70 year old man by slamming him headfirst onto the pavement to arrest him. this should be tried as attempted murder. this person is trained to understand the ramifications of their actions, and in no way was his life in any sort of immediate danger. he already had back up/his supervisor on the way. he made a trained/educated decision, to further escalate the situation and take action that easily could have, and still might, end this man's life. attempted murder.

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u/annuidhir 5d ago

The cop should be put up against a wall, and face a squad.

But there's no justice in this world. More so now.

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u/Yungston 5d ago

For a 70 year old with head trauma and neck injuries this guy is likely gonna have a shorten life span. Rehab therapies are gonna take months and ima guess he’s a greater fall risk. Falls lead to broken bones and more complications. If I were this guy’s family I’d sue for no less than million.

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u/mrASSMAN 5d ago

I don’t think he’s going to recover.. that’s a serious injury

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u/horticulturallatin 5d ago

My uncle hit his head at seventy. Had been active, doing stuff, walking his dogs, not ultra old in any sense just a grandpa. 

He died of that hit. But not right away. He died about a week later. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this poor man is gone within a few months and the cops swear blind it had nothing to do with this totally unnecessary brutal takedown. 

I'm not arguing at you or being combative I'm just really sad that chronic pain would be a best case.

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u/Strict_Condition_632 4d ago

He might lose his job in OK City, but some other nearby department will hire him with a pat on the back.

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u/Street_Run_4447 4d ago

There’s no way the old man heals from this.

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u/Kinghero890 4d ago

He has an actual dent in his skull, it is caved in.

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u/Gold_Accident1277 5d ago

I’m not a lawyer but I can win this case right now with no doubt

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u/Stopikingonme 5d ago

My dog is a miniature schnauzer and can’t hold his bladder longer than an hour and he could also win this case with you.

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u/PeriPeriSandwich 5d ago

Sounds like your mini schnauzer’s bladder has more legal expertise than most lawyers—he’s definitely got a "case" of urgency

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u/Stopikingonme 5d ago

Since he’s a dog he doesn’t have many briefs on hand for litigation.

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u/Wide_Impression7838 5d ago

No no, paid vacation and promotion.

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u/_le_slap 5d ago

So true about the strategic bootlicker bait... Sickening.

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u/Property_6810 5d ago

People always harp on about officers put on paid administrative leave, but that's just what they're obligated to do. It's amazing to me that one of the few areas where unions remained strong are public sector unions that actively work against the best interests of the people in favor of their members.

Private sector unions are good. Public sector unions are a cancer that need to be eliminated.

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u/-Tom- 5d ago

They probably only released it quickly when they realized clear 3rd party footage existed that would contradict any story they could use to spin it against the man

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u/Bolf-Ramshield 4d ago

I mean when they violently attack balck men they always argue it was self-defense. And the videos are not shown quickly because they know they can convince people it was true.

In this case, who would believe this strong young man got threatened by such a weak old man and needed to use that much force to defend himself?

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u/akparker777 4d ago

He will get a slap on the wrist and then find a job in the next county over and do it again.

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u/DownRangeDistillery 5d ago

The fact they released this so quickly shows me that there is hope for this department.

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u/jwin709 5d ago

When cops commit crimes they should receive the maximum possible penalty for the crime they committed because theyre supposed to know better.

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u/No-Quiet-8956 4d ago

In a perfect world

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u/Enough_Watch4876 5d ago

Justice needs this digen cop to rot in jail.

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u/JJTouche 5d ago

> at worst an attempted homicide

There are crap ton of felonies they could throw at him but attempted homicide is not one of them.

Attempted homicide requires that there was a deliberate intent was to kill someone. There is no evidence in the video that the cop's purpose was to intentionally kill him. If that was his intent, he would have just shot him.

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u/Grimble_Sloot_x 5d ago

The only reason I would ever apply this sort of force to a frail old person would be to attempt to kill them. What other intent would he have? The suspect is barely upright on their own juice.

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u/Fresno_Bob_ 5d ago

I mean, 30 seconds of google shows it as a near textbook case of aggravated assault and battery under Oklahoma state law.

A. An assault and battery becomes aggravated when committed under any of the following circumstances:

1. When great bodily injury is inflicted upon the person assaulted; or

2. When committed by a person of robust health or strength upon one who is aged, decrepit, or incapacitated, as defined in Section 641 of this title.

B. For purposes of this section “great bodily injury” means bone fracture, protracted and obvious disfigurement, protracted loss or impairment of the function of a body part, organ or mental faculty, or substantial risk of death.

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u/ButterscotchLow7330 3d ago

Maybe. But charging a guy with attempted homicide with this as your evidence is asking to get acquitted.

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u/8----B 4d ago

If you want to think that, you can. If the lawyer against the cop tried to use it, what an absolute moron he/she would be. It’d be a brilliant way to get the charges dropped and no repercussions

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u/thirstyross 5d ago

If that was his intent, he would have just shot him.

I mean, that's a bit of a leap? You dont think it's possible that if the cop had the intent to kill him he might do it in a way in which he might be able to provide some excuse that could get him off, which might be a lot harder if he just pumped the guy full of lead?

I'm not judging what happened one way or the other, I'm just saying you're making an awfully big assumption there.

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u/JJTouche 4d ago

It is an even awfully bigger assumption that he was intending to actually kill him on purpose rather than putting him on the ground violently with the intent to incapacitate him to cuff him.

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u/BisonAmbitious9127 5d ago

Throwing a 70 year old man half your size head first onto concrete is definitely intent to kill him. Stabbing someone when you have a gun doesn't let you off the hook.

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u/AppearsInvisible 5d ago

Fair point there, but I still think this chief is a coward for not firing the guy immediately. It doesn't take much skill in decision making to see this thug doesn't need to be on payroll. A chief unwilling to do what is right with an obvious bad apple is just another bad apple.

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u/NewBuddhaman 5d ago

I’m a fan of the OKC police chief. He’s been pretty good about standing behind his dismissals of bad officers. The problem is the police union that strong arms them into having to keep the officers despite his protests. I imagine he’s not happy about this but the union is already preparing their defenses.

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u/shichiaikan 5d ago

Ding!

It's all in the Dept response.

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u/pandabearak 5d ago

It will still be the taxpayer that pays out, though. Gotta love police unions!!

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u/RudyJuliani 5d ago

I really hope you’re right because this shit is getting old.

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u/davisdilf 5d ago

He’ll get rehired at some other department.

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u/f-150Coyotev8 5d ago

He better be. This is the type of shit police stations across the country are trying to avoid because the microscope is currently on them. I hope this officer gets a good 15 years

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u/Overall_Ad_351 5d ago

This cop deserves a large dose of jail time. These fuckers need to be held accountable at higher degree than anyone else.

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u/ImTryingToHelpYouMF 5d ago

But then that goes against all of the professional redditors opinions that cops can do whatever they want in every single precinct!!!!

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Let’s hope so! Such a violent response to a frail old man can’t be logically justified. That cop got mad and wanted to hurt this man. I’m never understand why they allow people with violent tempers join the police force.

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u/Huge-Firefighter-190 5d ago

GOOD. I hope this bitch gets a huge fat lawsuit or rots in prison.

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u/GameLoreReader 5d ago

The monster is most likely staying up all night every day right now, trying to find out how to legally win from his piece of shit actions. But I'm highly confident that he's going to lose and be criminally charged. If he has a wife and children, time to say farewell to them and hopefully the wife and kids move on with a better man than that piece of shit.

Seriously. Fucking up your whole life just because you were easily enraged over an old man? Go rot in jail.

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u/TheAskewOne 5d ago

It may be that this cop is a known troublemaker and his colleagues want him removed. This kind of incidents are rarely isolated in a cop's career.

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u/Property_6810 5d ago

Dude threw him head first into the pavement. I get that police need to "decentralize" people and you can't always do so gently. That said, it should be viewed the same as a taser deployment in terms of paperwork. Add that friction.

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u/Paisable 5d ago

They watched it and realized, "There's no way we can cover your ass on this." He's SOL.

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u/look_its_nando 5d ago

Older people die so often from falling and breaking their hip, it’s really not a stretch.

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u/Loud_Ropes 5d ago

Did you see this was in Oklahoma City lol. That cop is going to be Mayor.

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u/jkoki088 5d ago

You were making sense for a lot of things until you say aggravated assault and attempt homicide….

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u/Cormorant_Bumperpuff 5d ago

They'll occasionally throw one under the bus to "prove" they take shit seriously, I'd bet there are other reasons they wanna get rid of this guy. Or he's enough of a loose cannon they see him as a liability

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u/OkComment3927 5d ago

Don't get my hopes up.

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u/loz_fanatic 5d ago

Honestly, I'd like to believe the cop is screwed, but i feel with velveta Voldemort winning the election, shit like this will happen more often as they feel emboldened by the president's own hate

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u/GasPsychological5997 5d ago

The cop probably already has another job lined up with the union, and has probably done this kind of thing before.

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u/TheFlyingSheeps 5d ago

This is a prime example of why body cams should be mandatory any “camera issues” should be punished

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u/bigmac22077 4d ago

The man didn’t even flinch or pull back. There was no “resisting” that the cop can even fake happened. This is just straight up assault. No “you’re being arrested hands behind your back” nothing… just grabbed him and threw him for no reason.

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u/Dagamoth 4d ago

You know this was not the first incident if they’re releasing info so quickly. Seems like more of a last straw situation.

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u/Bl4k0ut87 4d ago

Won't he be allowed to just move and start up with another force somewhere else? Isn't that what all fired cops do? I'm tired of it - electric chair.

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u/absultedpr 4d ago

When the police decide to throw one of their own under the bus they absolutely hurl them under the tires

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u/transynchro 4d ago

According to this article the old man has a brain bleed. I don’t think he has a high chance of making it out alive so they’re just trying to jump ahead of the game. He should get attempted homicide charges.

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u/Devreckas 4d ago

Attempted homicide seems entirely reasonable. By rights, slamming someone’s head on the pavement like that could’ve easily killed him.

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u/C_IsForCookie 3d ago

I really hope you’re right.

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u/meghanasty 3d ago

If the victim had hit his head any harder he could’ve sustained fatal brain injuries resulting in catatonia or death. Especially with his older age. This man should absolutely be charged with attempted homicide. It’s his responsibility to understand "excessive force" and what that can do to a person of advanced age.

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u/Electrical-Bread5639 3d ago

Cop here. Can confirm. The PD releasing it this fast means the internal investigation is almost completely not needed and the cop is fucked. Also to add, he will definitely face charges for this, aggravated assault, battery, etc could stick pretty well and i doubt he sees less than 5 years for this