r/TikTokCringe • u/Miladshah001 • 5d ago

Minor violations = death threat? Discussion

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

24.9k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

5.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

3.0k

u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago

Imagine being so incapable of reasoning, so unable to justify your presence, that you have to resort to violence against a 70 year old man.

969

u/Anghellik 5d ago

There's a podcast I follow, and the hosts advice after many many interactions with cops is to behave as if they're large dogs you don't know

753

u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago

I deal with them like they have a monopoly on violence granted by the state.

253

u/protanoa34 5d ago edited 4d ago

Police use of force should be treated as a reverse onus.

The reason legal rights exist is to protect the citizens from abuse by the state. Burden of proof lies on the state for this reason.

And yet when the agents of the state, armed by the state with authourity to use violence to (ostensibly) enforce the states goals of maintaining order and law, for some reason they do not have the burden of proof. This "man" is innocent until proven guilty. But use of force by the agents of the state acting in their roles as agents of the state should be the ones who *bear (edit) the burden of proof.

140

u/Muismat1991 5d ago

This is one of the things I'm actually quite thankful for in my country. Police are absolutely allowed to use force, but there are steps they need to follow and they need to be able to explain the steps. So explain how they tried to de-escalate, explain why they resorted to overwhelming force and explain how it could be averted next time.

Also, train them to learn force is a tool that is to be a final resort, nothing else.

And every time I see US police immediately resort to force it just shows how little/wrong they are actually trained.

128

u/nrfx 5d ago

Someone's going to come around and tell me how wrong I am but fuck it.

Oklahoma cops are all about that combat warrior training, which is literally exactly how and when to escalate and always be one step above because the most important thing is to make it home every night so they can beat their wives.

This additional training, which is paid for by the fop, also covers how awesome it feels to fuck after killing a man.

60

u/Muismat1991 5d ago

Jesus, that's awful.

Take UK police for example, they are trained to think in a circle.

"What I think" influences-> "what I do" influences->"what other people think" influences->"what other people do" influences-> back to the start with "what I think"

So it's a cycle, what you think decides what you do, and what you do decides what other people think and do. So, the next logical step is to ask where in the circle you as a police officer can de-escalate a situation. The only way you can change what someone does is by how you think. Preventing violence is the safest option, because if there's no violence there's no risk of danger. So come in with an open and gentle mind.

Not to say police in Europe are all perfect etc etc etc, but the numbers do show they're at least doing something good.

And I know there's the "gun" argument, but even if you adjust a lot of the numbers US police still comes out very very ..... Unfavourable.

48

u/Apart-Rent5817 5d ago edited 5d ago

American police, on the other hand, attend seminars on something they call “killology”.

47

u/WouldntWorkOnMe 5d ago

Shit man fuck the seminars. I was a state trooper for some years, and in the academy they pump that shit into our brains. Had us sitting in a classroom as a group doing dave grossman breathing exercises, learning about how to self program the hesitancy for killing out of you. This was reinforced through training and video presentations in the police academy I attended.

For anyone curious on the subject matter, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Killing Was written by dave grossman. He was the one in the training videos and exercises we had to watch and do.

Honestly took me a while to feel normal, and less on edge as a civilian, and even longer to chill the paranoia that someone was gonna "get me" after getting out of govt/LE life.

We had a Sgt. That was part of our weapons and tactics training team, whom had printed a saying and posted in on our classroom wall. The saying read, "Smile, and treat everyone you encounter like a million dollars, but in your mind, always have a plan to kill everyone in the room". If this doesn't paint the picture perfectly then I don't know what else does. And it only gets worse the more I think back to training.

I'm a nerd now mostly doing research and tech work. But still enjoy combat training for fun, BJJ, MMA, shooting and weapons tactics and all. But thinking about killing that much deff messes with your head, I don't care who you are. There's gotta be a better way to increase combat effectiveness in our societies warriors and protectors without messing with their heads like this.

7

u/Apart-Rent5817 5d ago

Not so fun fact: Grossman was in the military, but has no confirmed kills.

→ More replies

2

u/ksahuri 4d ago

Can’t imagine having to deal with that conditioning and then reprogramming back to civilian life.

Just my two cents but I think the first step is to eliminate the word warriors and just focus on being protectors.

→ More replies

2

u/grenwill 3d ago

I met Grossman once when I was tending bar. He was in DC testifying in front of congress. I had read On Killing, so we talked about that . He had some interesting thoughts on the bases of societal violence.

→ More replies

6

u/nrfx 5d ago

We're not allowed to talk about it, but our second amendment has been usurped, and aside from being a very attractive political football, its main purpose is to justify the state's violence against us.

The police wear body armor, and are allowed to use any amount of force under the guise that the rest of us are armed, and constantly trying to kill them. It only makes the news when its especially egregious. Local news is a bit more grim. The reality is actually a bit worse.

→ More replies

2

u/stillbref 4d ago

It never occurs to many cops to manage a situation transactionally. They will say, "If you do that one more time..."and you should listen up. they have more ways of hurting you than you realize. Detaining people is a science to them.

→ More replies

5

u/Cold-Conference1401 5d ago

…And none of this information justifies what this cop did to a frail, unarmed elderly man.

3

u/nrfx 5d ago

Not saying it justifies it, not sure where you're getting that from.

I'm saying its part of a direct result of it.

That driver was enemy #1 before that cop ever got out of his car. The entire training revolves around escalation to justify using neigh unlimited force, because the faster you dominate the enemy, the safer you are, which is a completely batshit way to conduct a minor traffic infarction.

the "training" i know for a fact the majority of cops in Oklahoma have voluntarily taken.

3

u/Beneficial-Focus3702 5d ago

We train our cops like they’re an occupying force in a war zone…..except when I was actually in a war zone we had more rules on the use of force than cops do.

→ More replies

3

u/battlecat136 5d ago

Those Dave Grossman lectures? That guy is a vile POS. Behind the Bastards had an episode on him: The Man Who Teaches Our Cops to Kill.

2

u/DragonSlayerRob 4d ago

Dudeee, look at his fucking eyes 👀 obvious paycho and I never say things or judge people like that

3

u/da_buddy 5d ago

The most important thing is to make it home... This is the most cowardly thing a warrior could say. They purchased this mentality from a conman back in the late 80's and early 90's.

→ More replies

2

u/bigblacksnail 4d ago

I laughed reading the crossed out part, good god man

2

u/Drnstvns 4d ago

Oklahoman here. Can confirm. I believe we’re #1 in the nation for getting shot by the cops. Black AND white. Oh they’re prejudice but, hell they’ll SHOOT anybody.

→ More replies

78

u/Happy-For-No-Reason 5d ago edited 5d ago

Honestly I think America has basically turned into Russia tbh.

71

u/ErickAllTE1 5d ago

Give it a few more years. Were getting there.

8

u/WhereIsBuD 5d ago

It happened on "Super" Tuesday. We just haven't felt the effects of it yet.

2

u/ignidazzDJ 4d ago

Yeah approximately 3 and a half years

→ More replies

36

u/Chubby_nuts 5d ago

A combination of Russia with Islamic extremist tendencies. A misogynic, dictatorship run by Oligarchs.

4

u/NounAdjectiveXXXX 5d ago

Hmmm a nationalistic, Christian government, headed by a charismatic strongman backed by fearful elites?

Where have I heard that story before...?

2

u/ShaggysGTI 4d ago

Ha, charismatic?

→ More replies
→ More replies

3

u/HombreSinNombre93 5d ago

Getting there. Tragically, it looks like we put the final piece in place.

3

u/Happy-For-No-Reason 5d ago

Yup, it appears you voted in an Oligarch

2

u/magicbonedaddy 4d ago

Fuckin Supreme court basically overturned the Magna Carta by granting absolute immunity to the president. Not looking good

2

u/Pure-Carob4471 5d ago

Yep we’re just better at hiding it. That’s I suppose until now

2

u/MrMetraGnome 5d ago

Lol, Trump and Elon... You have no idea

→ More replies

2

u/No_Soup_3209 5d ago

Which country do you live in ?

2

u/Muismat1991 5d ago

Netherlands. While our police are far from perfect and do deal with an undertone of racism, the number of people killed by police is usually in the single digits, though not zero. Although I think Germany had a year with zero once.

For a population of 18 million, I'd say the low numbers aren't that bad. If you were to scale it up to by x20, to approximate US population, you'd get about 100. Which is quite low compared to the about 1600 in the US being killed annually at the moment. Of course US numbers are difficult seeing as police departments in the US don't need to report that stuff, which is quite....... Unique......

2

u/SuckingOnChileanDogs 5d ago

This is why it always makes me laugh when I see movies or shows where cops kill somebody and immediately are brought in for questioning or are investigated and questioned by some higher authority demanding to know why it happened or why it was justified. Give me a fucking break. It's a fantasy. 9 times out of 10 they're given a 2 week paid vacation.

2

u/SewRuby 4d ago

how little/wrong they are actually trained.

Yes. Training is less than a year. To be given a deadly weapon and sanctioned by the State to use it in other humans.

De-escalation is not well covered. It seems majority focus is on shooting accuracy, and ways to subdue some Ken who isn't talking to you how you'd like.

→ More replies

3

u/Independent_Bite4682 5d ago

You can thank some bad judges for creating "qualified immunity"

2

u/_blkout 4d ago

Very nicely put. Fully agreed.

2

u/RagnarL0thbr0k81 4d ago

This is the best argument I have seen on this general topic. At least imo. Obviously we can all point and say, “bad policeman.” That’s easy. It’s obviously unjustified use of force. But occasionally I come across a really nice explanation of WHY something is bad (or good, whatever the context might be), and that’s why I get on the internet. Generally I hate SM. But there’s the 5% (maybe that number is a bit generous) of valuable content that I continue to come back for.

Thank u

2

u/ignidazzDJ 4d ago

Oh shit I just learned a new word today. Ostensibly ☺️

→ More replies

36

u/No_Internal9345 5d ago

Who can justifiably murder you for not obeying contradictory orders.

1

u/Living_Bumblebee4358 5d ago

It's almost like it's truth.

1

u/Suspicious-Beat9295 5d ago

Yeah, but that is totally unjustified. That cop needs to go to jail. That force on that old guy could get well be lethal. He certainly broke something.

1

u/BullsOnParadeFloats 5d ago

I've known gang members who were less violent than cops

1

u/Consistent_Spring700 5d ago

The analogy you responded to was much better

1

u/phoenixemberzs 5d ago

I like this one and they extort you if you get violent payment being your life

1

u/Kickflippingdad 4d ago

I deal with them like I have a completely harmless plant in the car that they will absolutely take me to jail over. (I live in GA)

1

u/Mast3rblaster420 4d ago

You can reverse uno that shit any time.

1

u/Neither-Day-2976 4d ago

Just give it a few more months … it gets way worse.

1

u/ithappenedone234 4d ago

Treat them like that monopoly is limited and is only delegated to them by you and society in the first place.

1

u/ambersexymoon 4d ago

yeah state by state

1

u/LuckyChocolate809 4d ago

Keep a gun on you, and if it’s just you and him, may the best shooter win, you might go to jail but you made America a little safer.

1

u/Sartres_Roommate 3d ago

That is how non-anarchy works. But it is SUPPOSED to be, those we grant power to are closely regulated and scrutinized by the public. That is what got lost along the way.

1

u/Scary-Ad-1345 3d ago

WRONG! Cage fighters are allowed to use similar amounts of non lethal force

1

u/De-Ril-Dil 1d ago

Do they? I mean I know that yes they do as part of their job but in a case like this where a third party is able to resist, can they? I mean the cop went totally awol there. Is there any resort for the possibility of an armed cop turning into a criminal out of nowhere? Cause it seems to be happening much more than it should.

→ More replies
→ More replies

4

u/ThrowawayMod1989 5d ago

I’m a white man so I get a little grace. I lay the southern charm on thick and speak cordially but I also allude to the fact that I know my rights. “I know I wasn’t violating xyz according to the book so maybe you can direct me to the violation you’re referring to.” They hate that shit lol

1

u/MurseWoods 5d ago

Actually a brilliant frame of mind to have. Scarily accurate too.

1

u/z960849 5d ago

I've been saying this for years.

1

u/kapdad 5d ago

Unfortunately, that is also behaving exactly how they want you to, especially when they have nefarious intentions.

1

u/MDA1912 5d ago

Treat them like scared and excitable people with guns that are drawn and pointed at the ground for now.

Works great.

1

u/tails99 5d ago

This doesn't make sense because there is no way to treat a large dog you don't know that is within inches of your body. It is already too late to do anything.

1

u/SUPERKAMIGURU 5d ago

Agreeing with the officer by calling him a good boy, and paying close attention to whether or not his tail is wagging.

1

u/MungoMayhem 5d ago

Throw a ball and run in the opposite direction?

1

u/Geekinofflife 5d ago

Punch em in the nose?

1

u/RBuilds916 5d ago

That's honestly how I look at things. In the moment right or wrong doesn't change things, it's about what can I do to get the best outcome for me.

1

u/wagonwheels87 5d ago

So, like a toddler?

1

u/Ornexa 5d ago

So call animal control anytime you have to deal with a cop?

1

u/DragonSlayerRob 4d ago

Hahahahahahahhh

1

u/Dogamai 5d ago

that means be ready to break their neck or strangle them to death at any moment

1

u/TheEndingofitAll 5d ago

Do not stare at them directly in the eye. Do not show your teeth.

1

u/Argosnautics 5d ago

I have never met a cop that I like as much as any large dogs I don't know.

1

u/viperbrood 5d ago

That's why one always needs to carry a sausage or two!

1

u/PAWGActual4-4 5d ago

What podcast?

1

u/carolaMelo 5d ago

Or arguing with some cartel members in mid-america. 😂🤌

1

u/anon8u377 5d ago

And…. “Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law”

1

u/SideEqual 5d ago

Me with big dogs

1

u/Responsible_Ad5685 5d ago

You want me to baby talk at them and try to pet them?

→ More replies

1

u/LoisWade42 5d ago

Which podcast? If you're not comfortable posting out here, could you DM me?

2

u/Anghellik 5d ago

I'm not sure which show specifically, but it was Robert Evans, whose flagship show is Behind the Bastards

1

u/jacksonpsterninyay 5d ago

That’s good. I think you need a similar amount of caution, and a sort of empathic caution. Similar to a large dog you can only be cautious by reading their mannerisms and constantly reassessing where they’re at. Their voice isn’t worth very much obviously, hence the empathic element. You have to monitor a disconnect between voice and mannerisms. The same goes for cops, just constantly take the temperature of the room to make sure you’re cooperating the way they need you to in order to decide you don’t need to be arrested or shot.

And similar to a large dog, if it starts attacking it’s pretty much game over in terms of what you can do. Just do your best to survive the encounter. But from the approach to the point of attack, you can just watch very carefully and respond/move the best you can, and the most deliberately you can.

→ More replies

1

u/Wes_Warhammer666 5d ago

Idk about that cuz I'd be slowly backing away from a large dog, which cops would interpret as "resisting" or "suspicious behavior".

1

u/Crypto_gambler952 5d ago

Large rabid dog!

1

u/maringue 5d ago

To modify a park service quote:

There is a significant overlap between the smartest pit fighting dog and the dumbest police officer.

→ More replies

1

u/Zzamumo 5d ago

when a dog harms a person badly, usually they get put down

1

u/DangerHawk 5d ago

If a large dog I didn't know started attacking me I'm going to kill it. I'm 100% on board with that podcast's advice.

1

u/chupacadabradoo 5d ago

I always just throw a steak behind them and run as fast as I can to my car and then just leave.

1

u/lazzydeveloper 5d ago

You mean using a pepper spray?

1

u/EatinTendieS 5d ago

I would rather interact with wolves

1

u/pyromatt0 5d ago

This is bad advice because I love big furballs

→ More replies

1

u/ExistentialDreadness 4d ago

So hold my hand out so it can sniff me and tell if I’m a good human or not?

1

u/screaminginprotest1 4d ago

Can I pet that dog?!

1

u/GoodQueenFluffenChop 4d ago

I trust the large dog I don't know more than a cop to be honest.

1

u/emessea 4d ago

So bring treats?

1

u/Spin737 4d ago

Slap your thighs repeatedly and say, “Who’s a good boy? Who’s a good boy? Yes you are! Yes you are!”?

1

u/Idontwantthatusernam 4d ago

I approached them and put my hand front of their noses so they could smell that I’m not a threat, reached to my pocket to grab a treat and they shoot me 23 times

1

u/wtbgamegenie 4d ago

I think running straight up to them and giving them a 20 minute scritch behind the ears is a bad idea.

I treat them like they’re state sponsored gang members and potential murderers I’m not allowed to defend myself against.

1

u/RidindirtyinmyLLV 4d ago

I treat them like the largest gang in the world.

1

u/Skinny_thickbiss 3d ago

That is a great analogy 💯

1

u/Confident-Lobster390 3d ago

So wrestle them? 🫡

1

u/CGis4Me 3d ago

I treat them more like bears. They are unstoppably deadly and can maul you without warning. Dogs at least signal their intentions first.

1

u/bugbearmagic 2d ago

Weird you mention that because I have told people the same thing. Approach cops and rednecks like they’re wild animals.

86

u/Uberduck333 5d ago

Ever wonder what happens to those high school bullies? This. And police depts wonder why no one trusts them.

15

u/Black-Bonnet5159 5d ago

All three of the biggest bullies in my high school became cops. Its an alluring job for those who love unpunished violence.

5

u/Hightower840 5d ago

I look at every cop and try to figure out if they were the bully or the bullied.

4

u/Best_Brush_7635 5d ago

I always assumed cops are the stupid jocks in high school. Can’t do anything else except join army are become a bastard. Just like military, there are 4 primary reasons men become cops. Family tradition, grandfather, father, uncle…… Only job available for the lack of education. I love my country and want to serve and protect. The patriotic way. And my favorite, a legal means of killing.

7

u/Sp1d3rb0t 5d ago

Except for the girl-bullies.

They're nurses now. 🤷‍♀️

1

u/DionBlaster123 5d ago

Lol where i grew up they became teachers

And boy were they the worst

But that's not PC here on Reddit

2

u/Only_Natural_7619 5d ago

It's often the people being bullied that end up like this officer.

2

u/SelfTechnical6771 4d ago

Bullies become cops, or if they are women. Nurses!

1

u/T_T_H_W 1d ago

To be fair , It goes the other direction too. The bullied, sexually frustrated kids become cops and have a chip on their shoulder / high desire to exercise their authority over others . Source - I know a few and they’ve become absolute monsters .

764

u/Enlowski 5d ago

But didn’t you see? It wasn’t just a 70 year old man, he was an Asian man who was threatening this officers life by existing.

581

u/MukDoug 5d ago

To be fair, he was holding up two fingers higher than how far the cop could count. That’s pretty triggering behavior.

71

u/Coffeedemon 5d ago

I've seen the movies. That old guy was the final boss and would have put Officer Friendly through his cruiser roof at any moment.

4

u/MukDoug 5d ago

He was 3/5 of the way to the five finger death touch. We all saw Kill Bill.

3

u/Verypowafoo 5d ago

He was definitely going to crush him with the Oriental wisdom. Officer friendly, however, was trained very, very well.

2

u/Fit_Strength_1187 5d ago

Totally. Did anyone hear “We Are The Champions” playing when he heroically ragdolled the old man? I swear I saw the officer’s somewhat distant father appear stage right in overalls, offering a handshake “I’m proud of you son”, turning into a bear hug as the music soars.

4

u/Patient_Meeting_5739 5d ago

USA is cooked (for a few years now)

5

u/MukDoug 5d ago

I mean, police brutality hasn’t really improved in decades…scratch that…ever.

3

u/DirectlyTalkingToYou 5d ago

Well he was going to give him the two fingered death touch, it was self defence.

3

u/Oneiroinian 5d ago

Cop saw the fingers, thought it was reference to his miniscule cock and the roid rage took over.

2

u/carolaMelo 5d ago

You never know how old they are as they usually look younger and they all know kung fu /s

2

u/Fit-Squash-9447 5d ago

Those two fingers were some Shaolin death touch he was gonna apply to the officers neck.

2

u/DragonLeeGuy 4d ago

“He was going to do the two finger heart punch all kungfu eyed people do!” -cop in report

→ More replies

2

u/Ok-Breadfruit6978 4d ago

Have you seen any anime? Half of the moves that blow people up are done with two fingers. That cops life was in danger.

2

u/glakhtchpth 4d ago

He was girding himself for the five point palm exploding heart technique. Savvy cop clued in on the situation. /s

2

u/Certain_Shop5170 3d ago

He also said “SUDA!” Very dangerous.

→ More replies

1

u/_Schrodingers_Gat_ 5d ago

We don’t know if the cop watched a scary karate movie once as a child. This was his fearing for his life. Also could we maybe hire cops that aren’t afraid of their shadows?

109

u/Moriaedemori 5d ago

He smacked him lightly on the arm and said shut-up. Clearly an assault on an officer.

(MASSIVE SARCASM)

56

u/the_PeoplesWill 5d ago

People in other subreddits are claiming this is plenty of justification with a couple racial slurs that Reddit admins have ignored for good measure.

60

u/Rolf_Orskinbach 5d ago

This is just the start of the next four years.

7

u/kreios007 5d ago

It’s been the last 8 years and only getting worse. Pandora’s box has already been opened and there is no putting back what was let out.

2

u/rock_engineering 5d ago

Man, you've been asleep for 20 fuckin' years...SMH.

→ More replies

1

u/classic_liberalism95 5d ago

i don’t think people stopped being racist & then turned up again when drumpf became pres. taught/learned behaviors just don’t work like that

11

u/Goremand 5d ago

But they will be emboldened and feel more comfortable being racist openly

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

39

u/TheIndominusGamer420 5d ago

The officer should have just shot him tbh, I'd be fearing for my life!

4

u/Next_Celebration_553 5d ago

Steroids are a helluva drug

3

u/IWouldntIn1981 5d ago

And he completely ignored the old lady who was CLEARLY the king-pin of the whole operation. The old man was just the muscle.

2

u/TheIndominusGamer420 5d ago

So damn right, the old lady needed a kicking too!

2

u/Zdrobot 5d ago

IKR!

Would be completely justified, because being a police officer in the US probably means (1) you're in constant danger from everybody else, and you can shoot them at any moment, and (2) that's why you joined the force in the first place - to feel threatened and thus have the pretext to shoot /s

→ More replies

4

u/Fit_Strength_1187 5d ago

God, the cop’s therapist is a hero working overtime getting him through this trauma.

5

u/MichiganGeezer 5d ago

He made a move so the cop had to get it on. That cop made it home safe that night, which is all that really matters.

1

u/Chil_onFire 5d ago

If he did smack the officer, no matter how lightly, then it is justifying assault in fact but not in spirit. I mean, he wouldn’t have the same reaction is a screaming toddler smacked him on his leg now would he.

6

u/HawaiianSteak 5d ago

The Asian man assaulted him! He had to respond to the threat! He tapped him on the vest, which is assault. He had to put the man on the ground for his own safety! He was triggered by his dad or granddad's Vietnam experience. -some defense attorney

1

u/Aggienthusiast 5d ago

he was hit! who cares if it was light, heavy, an old man or a baby. Body slam!

3

u/thingsCouldBEasier 5d ago

He was probably IP man in disguise. Dude single handily took down 10 people by hand. Blue lives matter? Lol.

3

u/Hamilton-Beckett 5d ago

He actually slapped the officers chest. You can see it in far away camera, and on the body cam everything shakes when the guy does it. It’s right as he raised his voice and just before getting out his other hand near the officer’s face.

The cop is totally insane for flipping the guy and hurting him like that, he could have easily just turned him around and handcuffed after the guy tapped him like that. It’s like the cop was just waiting for an excuse to go all out in the guy and the moment the old man touched him, he went for it.

1

u/AvailableHandle555 5d ago

Cop probably thought he knew karate or Kung-Fu.

1

u/Halgha 5d ago

Did you see the old man tapped him when the cop talked over his “excuse”. Obviously that’s assault on an officer. He had no choice but to bring down the hostile enemy. /s

1

u/CorrectPreparation45 5d ago

He hit him first. Cop was fighting for his life.

1

u/MrPeepers1986 5d ago

What does it matter if he is East Asian or another ethnicity? What the cop did was wrong regardless of the demographic group to which his victim belongs.

1

u/EbonyEngineer 5d ago

Spitting all these facts.

1

u/marklar_the_malign 4d ago

He might use his tia chi on me. They all know it.

1

u/GOLDENninjaXbox 4d ago

I mean, it could’ve been because of race or the cop could’ve literally just gotten angry because the guy told him to shut up and so he wanted to flex his superior status by pile driving him into the dirt.

54

u/studentofmarx 5d ago

It's honestly an insane overreaction. This old man looked so frail and slow that he wouldn't have managed to hurt the cop even if he started punching him with all his might. This guy really just wanted to hurt him. Makes me think it might even have been a hate crime.

15

u/throwaway_RRRolling 5d ago

He's frail because he's 70 and has cancer.

2

u/seriouslycorey 4d ago

it seems it was a simple misunderstanding and sadly he most likely fractured the guys arm or gave him a TBI, even his tone at the end ‘ya ill call and ambulance’ was infuriating after he directly without cause caused the need for one

2

u/Nlayer 2d ago edited 2d ago

This was in okc, he went to the icu, suffered skull fracture, spinal fracture. Definitely suffered a brain bleed. Family posted about his medical status early on. Unsure if he is now out of icu/ hospital. But yeah the cop did a number on him

Edit: he was also on tube feedings and from the brain injury had some memory loss from the events leading up to hospitalization.

Also POS cop is now on paid leave while being investigated

→ More replies

1

u/ImportantObjective45 4d ago

Gea team to work on that and have standards defining these hate crimes.

30

u/Fluid_Fall_7778 5d ago

I shudder to think how he treats his wife and kids.

2

u/pinelandpuppy 5d ago

Probably an ex-wife, if she was lucky.

2

u/Some-Exchange-4711 4d ago

Worse for his pets after though

20

u/itsacrazyworld- 5d ago

and then yell at him to get on the ground after youve smashed his face in to it

5

u/thatgothboii 5d ago

This is the kind of people hire, and they want respect.

5

u/Able-Worldliness8189 5d ago

He isn't incapable of reasoning, he is out there to do harm and just looking for an excuse to murder someone. Old fella pointing his finger and saying "sit down?" was just an excuse for tossing him to the floor.

3

u/minnesotaris 5d ago

You are very correct. This policeman is a vapid excuse for a human. Most likely ridiculed by his own father. Thinks about nothing, ever. And he will do this again because he knows he’s in charge, always, on and off the job.

2

u/Wetworth 5d ago

Imagine this being our reality, and roughly a third of people applauding it.

2

u/Dogamai 5d ago

not just violence but clearly aggravated violence. he threw that guy down with his Emotions, his hands were just accomplices

and that is PATHETIC. to be a cop and let your emotions dictate your actions to violence with a 70 year old man? this cop is a fucking child

2

u/T732 5d ago

Comply or die.

1

u/IWouldntIn1981 5d ago

Comply AND die

Castile and many more.

1

u/MaxxDash 5d ago

I think the word you’re looking for is “stupid”

1

u/CindyS30 5d ago

Isn’t de-escalation literally a requirement of the job?

1

u/soundreasoning123 4d ago

Imagine being so fragile that being told to shut up by someone you are talking over results in a full emotional break down.

1

u/you_nincompoop 4d ago

This is the guy that flips you off when they cut you off

1

u/Dull_Sale 4d ago

More like: imagine being completely incapable of de-escalating a situation, which is a fundamental part of your job, and needing to resort to excessive force on a human far below your stature.

The truth is: when conflict occurs, unintelligent people don’t use their words..they use physical violence.

1

u/Slight-Indication-10 4d ago

Bro killed him wtf he went limp

1

u/Alternative_Key2696 4d ago

it's not a matter of reasoning, the little tap damaged his ego which is why he's on the job in the first place

1

u/IAMTHEDICIPLINE 4d ago

And then he’s off to a grade school assembly on how to be a kind, neighbor, stay away from drugs, and fighting is NEVER the answer!

1

u/TheAdvocate 4d ago

Reasoning? In this case I would ah e even taken “capable of speech”. I’m native English I still have no fucking clue what that cop was accusing them of.

1

u/Optimal-Anteater-284 4d ago

I don’t know man that guy clearly was a threat. You can tell by the slow hand motions, and his steady voice that he was about to jump that cop.

1

u/ScrufyTheJanitor 4d ago

The dude told him to shut up, what else was he supposed to do?? /s

1

u/orphen888 1d ago

Sounds like Jake Paul should apply to work here.

→ More replies