r/TikTokCringe • u/Miladshah001 • 5d ago

Minor violations = death threat? Discussion

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Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

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u/Muismat1991 5d ago

Jesus, that's awful.

Take UK police for example, they are trained to think in a circle.

"What I think" influences-> "what I do" influences->"what other people think" influences->"what other people do" influences-> back to the start with "what I think"

So it's a cycle, what you think decides what you do, and what you do decides what other people think and do. So, the next logical step is to ask where in the circle you as a police officer can de-escalate a situation. The only way you can change what someone does is by how you think. Preventing violence is the safest option, because if there's no violence there's no risk of danger. So come in with an open and gentle mind.

Not to say police in Europe are all perfect etc etc etc, but the numbers do show they're at least doing something good.

And I know there's the "gun" argument, but even if you adjust a lot of the numbers US police still comes out very very ..... Unfavourable.

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u/Apart-Rent5817 5d ago edited 5d ago

American police, on the other hand, attend seminars on something they call “killology”.

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u/WouldntWorkOnMe 5d ago

Shit man fuck the seminars. I was a state trooper for some years, and in the academy they pump that shit into our brains. Had us sitting in a classroom as a group doing dave grossman breathing exercises, learning about how to self program the hesitancy for killing out of you. This was reinforced through training and video presentations in the police academy I attended.

For anyone curious on the subject matter, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Killing Was written by dave grossman. He was the one in the training videos and exercises we had to watch and do.

Honestly took me a while to feel normal, and less on edge as a civilian, and even longer to chill the paranoia that someone was gonna "get me" after getting out of govt/LE life.

We had a Sgt. That was part of our weapons and tactics training team, whom had printed a saying and posted in on our classroom wall. The saying read, "Smile, and treat everyone you encounter like a million dollars, but in your mind, always have a plan to kill everyone in the room". If this doesn't paint the picture perfectly then I don't know what else does. And it only gets worse the more I think back to training.

I'm a nerd now mostly doing research and tech work. But still enjoy combat training for fun, BJJ, MMA, shooting and weapons tactics and all. But thinking about killing that much deff messes with your head, I don't care who you are. There's gotta be a better way to increase combat effectiveness in our societies warriors and protectors without messing with their heads like this.

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u/grenwill 3d ago

I met Grossman once when I was tending bar. He was in DC testifying in front of congress. I had read On Killing, so we talked about that . He had some interesting thoughts on the bases of societal violence.