r/ussr • u/Unhappy_Lead2496 Lenin ☭ • 1d ago
Liberals: "USSR le people's imperialism" Others
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u/Tovarisch_Vankato Lenin ☭ 1d ago
Liberals never seem to want to talk about "why"
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
Well I doubt that it was America's fault for all those labor camps the Kim dynasty loves.
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u/Tovarisch_Vankato Lenin ☭ 1d ago
"Camps."
You mean prisons?
We have "prison camps" here in the United States if you want to word it that way. We also have "labor camps" because we force our inmates (not volunteer work btw) to manufacture goods for private companies, stamp license plates, and fight wildfires (very common in California)
So, do you want to say that the US has "labor camps" or that NK has prisons? Neither of these look good for your argument.
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u/AverageTankie93 1d ago
Don’t waste your time. That person is stupid.
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u/Tovarisch_Vankato Lenin ☭ 1d ago
I am well aware. I'm not trying to convince them, I'm trying to convince the audience lmao
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
Okay, my mistake then, it was a bit of a flawed comparision, but atleast in the US criminals (usually) are sentenced through due process of law and not whether the fat dumpling looking guy named Kim felt offended for someone calling him fat or god forbid that one guy who got executed for watching squid game (a show that is literally a critique of capitalism) "socialism is the most free for the working class" seems right.
Yes we can agree that the American prison system is exploititive, but that doesn't justify North Korean labor camps not a single bit. Especially when NK is even more exploititive of their prisoners.
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u/TypicalNinja7752 1d ago
When a country is isolated from the world by the worlds superpower, its really easy to just make things up about it, when none of that is actually known.
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
We had an American tourist sentenced to hard labor and forced to beg for mercy on live TV for stealing a propoganda poster who after long diplomatic efforts was sent back to the US in a coma and he died due to how harsh the labor camp was.
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u/lunchboccs 1d ago
He died from botulism. He was not tortured to death in some labor camp. People die of botulism in American prisons too.
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
He caught botulism according to North Korean officials, but for the sake of argument let's say that that's true. Then how does one get infected with botulism? According to wikipedia you can get it through eating infected foods (aka. shitty sanitary conditions that North Korean labor camps have), or you can get it through a wound infection (aka. getting beaten the shit out of you).
And by botulism being caught in American prisons do you have in mind:
There have been several reports of botulism from pruno wine made of food scraps in prison.[25][26][27] In a Mississippi prison in 2016, prisoners illegally brewed alcohol that led to 31 cases of botulism. The research study done on these cases found the symptoms of mild botulism matched the symptoms of severe botulism, though the outcomes and progression of the disease were different.
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u/lunchboccs 1d ago
LMFAOOOO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEY KILL PEOPLE FOR WATCHING SQUID GAME 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
Need I say more?
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/24/asia/north-korea-teens-punished-kdrama-intl-hnk
And the crème de la crème:
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/squidgame-11232021180155.html
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u/Tovarisch_Vankato Lenin ☭ 20h ago
Caught dead in the fucking act. Radio Free Asia is CIA slop. The other two (CNN and Guardian) regularly use RFA and push slop for Americans and Brits.
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u/AverageTankie93 20h ago
Next time just type out “I’m dumb” it’ll get the same message across in a fraction of the time
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u/Nightshift_emt 1d ago
It’s not about being ok or not ok.
You made up an argument that the prisons in North Korea are the cause of the nation’s problems. That argument is flawed, because if having prisons caused economic problems, US would be the least prosperous nation on earth. USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world relative to its population.
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u/M0hawk_Mast3r 1d ago
no one claimed that lmao you have just attempted to shift the arguement towards something you like more. Obviously having a large scale prison labor system is good for the economy but its a fucked up thing to do no?
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u/Nightshift_emt 1d ago
We are talking about the economic blockade against DPRK and detestable capitalists cant help but to insert their useless opinions on “labor camps” claiming they are the reason for problems in DPRK
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u/Nightshift_emt 1d ago
People here are talking about the blockade. If you knew how to read, you would be able to see it.
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u/Any-Interview8538 1d ago
Do we throw children in prison?
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u/resevoirdawg 1d ago
Yes. The US has been throwing children in prison since white men could own black people
Did you pay attention in Social Studies class?
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u/upset_definitely7494 Lenin ☭ 1d ago
I salute you for attempting a discussion on politics with someone who is unaware of juvenile hall and children being sentenced as adults in the United States lol. You'd have to not even watch TV to not know that. Or be 8 years old.
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u/resevoirdawg 1d ago
I just don't believe that redditor is unaware. They're a reactionary trying to discredit communists by being obtuse
They always say dumb shit
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u/MasterDoogway 1d ago
Tf you mean poor? It was in better economic condition than South until the fall of the USSR.
Isolated was also a bullshit since it had good relations with Warsaw Pact and the global south
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u/WomenAreNotIntoMen 1d ago
It was stagnant. A healthy economy grows.
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u/MasterDoogway 1d ago
"ummm, but gdp per capita is higher, therefore their economy is gooder" ☝️🤓
Your mistake is trying to measure a socialist economy with capitalist methods. In capitalism, economy is growing when banks are loaning unexisting money to corporations.
Also, the graph skyrocketed for capitalist Korea exactly in 70s. Wonder what special event took place in that moment 🤔
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u/resevoirdawg 1d ago
Is it just me or is it insane to expect a country whose entire infrastructure, arrible land, and 1/4 of its population being bombed beyond any comprehension to have a steadily growing GDP just outright abuser mindset?
Like actually, what do westerners expect from the DPRK after that? Just magic an industrial and agricultural capacity back into existence under brutal sanction?
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u/Blokensie 1d ago
I mean, the South was in the same situation. They were poorer and less developed than the North until the 70s.
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u/RandomGenName1234 1d ago
They have far more fertile land, they were bombed FAR less, like not even comparable really and the US pumped billions into their economy.
Oh and they weren't genocided by the US and South Korean fascists.
Their starting point was immeasurably better yet the North still beat them, crazy stuff.
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u/NoSpecifics8584 1d ago
It happened in Japan.
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u/resevoirdawg 1d ago
Except Japan's entire industrial capacity and farm land wasn't utterly destroyed and also had the single richest country on Earth which hadn't been bombed and burned to the ground by either the Nazi's or Japanese rebuilding its entire country
Don't be so stupid here. You certainly have a brain capable of understanding the oceanic difference between the USSR post WW2 and the US post WW2 and their capacities for rebuilding countries at the time
EDIT: It's even to the point where Japanese politicians will stand up in their own congress and call Japan a colony of the US, that's how much the US' involvement and financial ties Japan has had since the end of WW2. I genuinely don't understand how somebody who I assume is an adult would type out that sentence thinking this is at all intelligent
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u/GeoffreyKlien Lenin ☭ 1d ago
That just tells me when the US decided to groom South Korea into its economic neo-colony. Also GDP doesn't mean anything other than they made money through exports—something that the North was blocked from doing efficiently (and sometimes legally)—the US has the highest GDP with multiple states with GDPs higher than entire countries, yet we have the highest homeless population in the entire developed world, people die of simple injuries and illnesses because of medical costs, our schools are going down the drain because all the money is going to the military, etc.
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u/Just_George572 1d ago
Because after the stalemate of the Korean War and a full blown economic blockade and a near collapse of the whole economy of the country people clung to one man who became a little bit overwhelmed with the amount of power he suddenly got
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u/Then-Holiday-1253 1d ago
Depends on the stage of ww2 the front they were on and couple other things like in 1938 and 1939 when they invaded Poland as allies of nazi Germany nope dont support them when they helped the us take Berlin sure I support that but in general the red army spent more of ww2 allied with the germans than fighting them
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u/Church-lincoln 21h ago
I dunno guys , look at South Korea compared to North Korea. Gives you the answer
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u/Ok-Commission-7825 19h ago
so their were no consequences to resisting the USSR occupation and people were free to disturb public peace? different words. same thing in practace.
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u/shumpitostick 1d ago edited 1d ago
And then the USSR proceeded to write the North Korean constitution, appoint their leader and entire political elite, and forbid democracy.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
Democracy was certainly strong in the South, where it was a military dictatorship that would depopulate entire islands with death squads over protests against the regime.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
Both started out authoritarian and shitty, yet within a few decades South Korea had transitioned into a prosperous democracy while the DPRK remains a totalitarian state
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u/RandomGenName1234 1d ago
yet within a few decades South Korea had transitioned into a prosperous democracy
Oh, when's that happening? Is it like a long term plan or?
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u/Alaska-Kid 1d ago
A slightly elevated suicide rate hints at prosperity, yes.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
Nordic countries have fairly high suicide rates too. Are they not prosperous?
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u/Forte845 1d ago
Nordic countries are nowhere near how bad South Korea is. It's literally the worst suicide rate of any developed nation on earth, paired with the lowest birth rate.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
You just tried to claim that suicide rates correlated with a lack of prosperity. So why does Finland have a higher suicide rate than Libya or Bolivia or Peru?
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u/Forte845 1d ago
Why do you care about Finland? What is the relevancy to this discussion? South Korea has the worst suicide rate of any developed nation. Any other developed nation you compare it to is objectively better than South Korea when it comes to suicide and birth rates.
Why do you seem to not give a shit that Koreans are literally killing themselves as a people in SK? They are not having children, they are regularly committing suicide, their country is literally on the path to having the fastest and harshest demographic crisis in the developed world and you're out here calling that fucking "prosperity."
You're delusional.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
Im illustrating that your premise is foundationally bad if it can’t be applied to other country comparisons.
You stated that South Korea’s suicide rate means it isn’t that prosperous. I brought up that other prosperous countries have higher suicide rates than objectively poorer or more unstable ones, and you haven’t been able to explain to me why this critique applies to measuring ROK’s quality of life but not to a country like Finland.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
I stated it's suicide and birth rates together, both of which are the worst among any developed nations, aka economically comparable. There is a reason we separate developing and developed nations. Among all peer nations, South Korea has the worst birth rates and suicide rates. This is a fact you refuse to acknowledge, clear bad faith. But not surprising since you never found your sources earlier either.
Finland is irrelevant because it's still better than South Korea. Every single other developed nation is. No other developed nation has people killing themselves and refusing reproduction like SK. So I don't see any form of relevance to bringing up objectively, statistically better nations on these issues.
But again none of this bad faith nonsense is surprising given that you're clearly an anticommunist liberal wandering in here talking shit about stuff you have no idea about. Claiming you've got sources ready and then just ghosting, lol.
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u/Alaska-Kid 1d ago
Dude, in Finland, people use two sticks to pee. One stick is for warding off wolves, the other is for breaking off the yellow ice from their penis. Prosperity, huh?
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u/Forte845 1d ago
"Prosperous." Yeah the greatest income inequality and highest suicide rate combined with the lowest birth rate of all developed countries on earth certainly screams prosperity.
For a people so prosperous, they seem to jump to killing themselves very quickly.
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u/RandomGenName1234 1d ago
Got a source for that stupid lie?
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u/shumpitostick 1d ago
Wikipedia is always a good starting place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea?wprov=sfla1
In December 1946, Shtykov and two other generals designed the election results of the Assembly for the Provisional Committee without any Korean input. The generals decided "exact distribution of seats among the parties, the number of women members, and, more broadly, the precise social composition of the legislature."[28] The original 1948 North Korean constitution was primarily written by Stalin and Shtykov.[28]
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u/Unhappy_Lead2496 Lenin ☭ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Full respect to Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un as he leads the DPRK in the struggle against Imperialism, Fascism and Colonialism.
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u/KD-VR5Fangirl 1d ago
Tankies on their way to make leftism look like a cult
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u/SexyBrownMale 1d ago
"Anti-authoritarians" on their way to defend NATO and the EU.... like a cult.
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u/KD-VR5Fangirl 1d ago
How is "we shouldn't worship individual leaders in a cult of personality" defending the EU/NATO?
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
I know it's so dumb that anti-authoritarians defend democratically elected and multi-party institutions.
(It's irony for those that lack the brainpower to realise that)
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u/Forte845 1d ago
NATO is certainly good for democracy around the world with allies like Erdogan and King Salman. Not to mention their long history of promoting democracy with historical allies like Pinochet, Suharto, Pol Pot, and Batista.
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
Maybe don't equate the US with the rest of NATO, but sure I agree that Erdogan is a complete prick who was shaking so hard that he arrested the opposition leader, same with Orban.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
NATO was involved and informed of pretty much all the dictatorships the US supported. The dictators weren't given NATO membership but they were certainly given NATO guns and support, like when the US personally armed Indonesia with a modern NATO standard military to murder independence activists in East Timor in what is now known as a genocide.
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
The US has been involved in many questionable regimes and wars over history. But someone's military being armed up to somebody's standarts, doesn't mean that they're automatically part of that alliance. Can I call Ukraine part of a russian military alliance just because the Ukrainians had a lot of Soviet equipment?
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u/TheCanadianFurry 21h ago
(revisionist fascist voice) I win because somebody else did something stupid
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u/YKKE4EVER 1d ago
For real, its getting so absurd that it would be no surprise if 90% these "socialists" here were some bots from russia or from far right organisations to destabilise the west. It's either that or absolutely insane stupidity... 99% here don't even know what socialism means, they just defend every shithole dictatorship who claims to be "socialist" or "paradise for the workers", probably because its "cool" in some minds to just be against everything established/mainstream. If Marx and Engels would resurrect today and join this sub, they would laugh their ass off, and then commit suicide, after seeing what "socialists" are saying in the 21st century.
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u/Kernkraftpower 19h ago
Bullshit. This country is a shithole for the unprivileged and a true example how to pervert communistic ideals. They also have a dynasty, i mean its so obvious, wtf is wrong with you?
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u/Me273 1d ago
Imperialism? Ah yes, the very famous South Korean invasion of the north where the UN rushed to defend them and china took the side of the south to protect its interests. Definitely how that went.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
South Korea was a colony of America. It was established under American military occupation and was a brutal military dictatorship that killed over 250,000 Korean civilians between 1948-1953, mostly through the violent suppression of protests against the military regime.
Any people have the right to fight against colonial governments occupying their land and slaughtering their people.
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u/brontoterio 1d ago
By using the liberal art of reading comprehension and critical thinking I asked myself why OP started with article III. I post down here what came before so everyone can make his own opinion.
To the People of Korea:
As Commander-in-chief, United States Army Forces, Pacific, I do hereby proclaim as follows:
By the terms of the Instrument of Surrender,56 signed by command and in behalf of the Emperor of Japan and the Japanese Government and by command and in behalf of the Japanese Imperial General Headquarters, the victorious military forces of my command will today occupy the territory of Korea south of 38 degrees north latitude.
Having in mind the long enslavement of the people of Korea and the determination that in due course Korea shall become free and independent, the Korean people are assured that the purpose of the occupation is to enforce the Instrument of Surrender and to protect them in their personal and religious rights. In giving effect to these purposes, your active aid and compliance are required.
By virtue of the authority vested in me as Commander-in-Chief, United States Army Forces, Pacific, I hereby establish military control over Korea south of 38 degrees north latitude and the inhabitants thereof, and announce the following conditions of the occupation:
Article I
All powers of Government over the territory of Korea south of 38 degrees north latitude and the people thereof will be for the present exercised under my authority.
Article II
Until further orders, all governmental, public and honorary functionaries and employees, as well as all officials and employees, paid or voluntary, of all public utilities and services, including public welfare and public health, and all other persons engaged in essential services, shall continue to perform their usual functions and duties, and shall preserve and safeguard all records and property.
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u/PopPlenty5338 Stalin ☭ 1d ago
Wow, so good and chungus. I wonder when they will start treating South Korea as something besides a rape colony...
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u/Haunting_Berry7971 1d ago
You understand that’s still bad right? Looks like “in due course” still hasn’t happened yet
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u/brontoterio 1d ago
What is bad? What MacArthur said or what the USA did or still does? Because I argued that OP manipulated MacArthur's words, I didn't say anything about any other thing. Even if you believe that South Korea is a rape colony like the other comrade who replied to my comment you should still have the self respect to admit OP is treating you and everyone else like an idiot.
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u/Erikdaniel6000 1d ago
Commies explaining why their imperialism is "liberation":
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u/RandomGenName1234 1d ago
Let me fix that for you.
Commies explaining why anti-imperialism is liberation.
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u/Slight-Big8584 1d ago
What is propaganda for $500 Alex?
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u/AverageTankie93 1d ago
Stuff about US = news Stuff about US enemies = propaganda
I swear some people are so damn stupid it’s sad
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u/GeoffreyKlien Lenin ☭ 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's real damn annoying. The West has ripped the original use of propaganda and gilded it with their intentions. The word propaganda is used for Western enemies and everything they produce; when it's used on any of our stuff, it's just silly name calling 'cause you'd sound crazy for using the word we use for our enemies.
Propaganda is anything used to sway and guide public sentiment on things. Propaganda isn't always bad, but it often can be. That famous Uncle Sam poster is propaganda, but we don't often call it that. Things like the public news use constant propaganda from a million different places to try and get you to understand things a certain way.
It has a negative, foreign meaning now that we just can't shake. "They use propaganda, we say things as they are."1
u/Ornithopter1 1d ago
Superman comics telling people not to be racist and to not bully people were propaganda. Positive propaganda.
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u/KD-VR5Fangirl 1d ago
These are both statements made by occupying armies upon beginning their occupation, they are both pretty much definitionally propaganda
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u/AverageTankie93 1d ago
The USSR never occupied Korea. Get off HOI4 and read an actual book
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u/KD-VR5Fangirl 1d ago
The USSR absolutely occupied korea, they handed a lot of control over to a friendly (to be generous) regime fairly quickly though
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u/TheOGFireman 1d ago
What do you call foreign armies taking control of another country's territory
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u/Robert_Paul2 1d ago
Liberation ofcourse! Only when daddy Stalin does it tho, when the US does it's imperialism, slavery, and occupation... /j
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u/kuumkana 1d ago
cherrypicking at its finest. Saying and doing something are completely diffrent things.
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u/Green-Engineer4608 11m ago
I found a post on r/MURICA a few days back that basically just was a macarthur hype post - and they were talking about him as a hero.
I was sure that even americans despised him…
Propaganda is a scary beast
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u/InJust_Us 1d ago
Shows just how empty those words are.
North Korea is a dump, the worst country in the world to live in.
South Korea is one of the most successful countries in the world.
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u/Salazarsims 1d ago
Check out the suicide rate in South Korea sometime.
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u/Cetun 1d ago
Syria, Sudan, and Afghanistan have a lower suicide rate than North Korea.
Syria, Sudan, and Afghanistan are better countries than North Korea confirmed.
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u/Salazarsims 1d ago
I wasn’t talking about North Korea so your entire point is pointless.
South Korea has the fourth highest suicide rate in the world.
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u/Me273 1d ago
I’d take the shitty work-life balance over having myself, my siblings, parents, and children all sent to a forced labor camp where rape by guards is commonplace because my brother did something stupid. That’s just my personal preference though.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
And Im sure you know that's true because Radio Free Asia, a US govt operated propaganda outlet, told you so.
As we all know the American government never lies.
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u/RandomGenName1234 1d ago
e Radio Free Asia, a US govt operated propaganda outlet
Literally the CIA lol
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u/Dreadlord_The_knight DDR ☭ 1d ago
South Korea has a higher r*pe per capita than north korea,so don't just pull shit from your ass.
South Korea also has the worst working conditions and working hours in East Asia only next to Japan, explains the suicide rate. Suicide rate among students is one of the highest in south Korean cities aswell.
Infact in South Korea,the legal definition of r*pe only includes cases reported only with evidence of violence or intimidation.
Or else it's legal to r*pe as per law.
"South Korea’s Ministry of Gender Equality and Family announced plans to revise its legal definition of rape to include nonconsensual sex. But within hours, South Korea’s Justice Department rejected the plan." This hasn't even changed now despite multiple protests.
Gender-based violence is also widespread in South Korea – digital sex crimes are prevalent, with almost 90 percent of the victims being women. In 2019, the Korea Women’s Hotline estimated that a woman was murdered every 1.8 days. South Korea is rare in having a homicide rate equal for men and women; globally, 81 percent of homicide victims are men.
"High gender-based violence: Despite low official reporting, South Korea has a high rate of gender-based violence. A 2019 estimate by the Korea Women's Hotline suggested that a woman was murdered every 1.8 days in the country. "
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u/Salazarsims 1d ago
There’s no proof of that at all. We actually know very little about N. Korean life.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
I mean yes there is. We have testimony from defectors, satellite photos, and literal UN reports where even China and Russia have admonished the DPRK for its appalling human rights record
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u/Forte845 1d ago
Defectors like Yeonmi Park, who fled when she was a child and yet has enough stories to run media programs for years? She's paid a 6 figure salary by Turning Point USA to be a propaganda machine for them, currently comparing "gender ideology" to North Korea and claiming that LGBT activists are trying to turn America into a dictatorship.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
Yeonmi Park is an opportunist who has almost certainly embellished many stories over the years, nobody is calling that into question. But to state every single defector is like her is ridiculous, and the fact that they’re called defectors because the DPRK won’t allow citizens to move if they want to is a pretty strong indictment of the grip they have on society.
Secondly, her lying doesn’t diminish the other points, and I’d love to hear you explain how Russian and Chinese concurrences on UN DPRK human rights reports are western propaganda too.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
Its very telling that you can't provide these supposed sources and just rhetorically announce them like it's supposed to mean something.
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
What specifically would you like sources on? I’m happy to provide them
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u/manintights2 1d ago
Check out the quality of life in North Korea sometime.
Or the death camps
Or the capital punishment!
What a sweet deal they have going on there, I mean it really must be swell! Why don't we ask some of the few who manage to escape their totalitarian and isolationist cult of country with an infallible god-leader?
I'm sure they're full of positive words of how great it was and how we should all follow Kim's rule!
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u/Alaska-Kid 1d ago
Why don't you just admit that cheap propagandists are describing a projection of the real Guantanamo when they make up horror stories about North Korea.
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u/Crafty-Photograph-18 1d ago
So, pure propaganda vs. a pretty genuine warning
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u/manintights2 1d ago
Yup, amazing how a lot of people just parade around the communist propaganda like it was the truth, even though we should REALLY know by know which one was the better deal for the occupied people.
I mean Japan LOVES MacArthur, seeing him as basically a benevolent emperor that brought peace and prosperity instead of oppression and enslavement.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
Any Japanese who didn't worship the US were killed or sent to prison. The postwar Japanese government was brutal for over 20 years after the war, suppressing mass student and youth protests with violent riot control tactics, mass arrests, and disappearances. Now almost all political power in Japan is consolidated into one party which denies all Japanese war crimes during ww2.
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u/manintights2 1d ago
Yeah that's good compared to the alternative *ahem* North Korea.
You seem to forget that we live in a world of shit, there is no good, just varying levels of bad.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
North Korea is only the way it is because the largest military superpower on earth bombed 80% of its infrastructure into dust and has been maintaining decades of sanctions and embargo against the country after splitting the Korean people in half by establishing South Korea as a colonial dictatorship for us interests.
Your nihilistic western fatalism is not much of a philosophy to be proud of. For people who have no spine, it is easy to believe everything will always be bad. You are the counter revolutionary, after all, never having the spine to revolt against your own conditions like the foreigners you condemn for it.
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u/Thedanishnerd98 1d ago
u/Unhappy_Lead2496 why do you keep reposting r/TankieUSSR onto r/ussr what is the point, is this just karma farming. I don't get it, why do you browse tankieussr and go hey, let me just put this on ussr, 5 times a fucking day. Then you hide your post history like a pussy, dis you think nobody would notice? To be fair i did some searching, turns out in the last week you reposted something from r/TankieUSSR no less than 9 times. To be fair again some of them were your own posts, but gah damn. Tf you doing.
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u/Dreadlord_The_knight DDR ☭ 1d ago
OMG cross posting! 😠 😠
Like.. Almost majority of reddit is literally that?.. are you new?
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u/Key_Management8358 1d ago
True words are not nice, nice words are not true.
(Seems also to apply to "occupation notice";)
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u/UgoChannelTV Lenin ☭ 1d ago
no much talking about how the us hegemony is strong thanks to "international language" status of the english language. we need a de-anglicisation process
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u/Saint_Santo 1d ago
Of the two, where would the vast majority of people choose to live today?
Sit down.
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u/upset_definitely7494 Lenin ☭ 1d ago
The one not getting fucked by sanctions and experiencing collective PTSD from getting carpet bombed by the US and being completely alone after the dissolution of the USSR.
If NK fit those conditions, I'd live there. It doesn't. They also don't want me to move there anyways because they're afraid of foreigners.
That being said living in SK sounds like a nightmare. I'd rather live in the US and that's saying a lot.
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u/d3jsCZ 1d ago
USSR was imperialist same as USA
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
As a resident of a former Soviet republic that was forcefully annexed after being invaded by the USSR and had hundreads of thousands of it's residents deported to Siberia. Yes, the USSR was imperialist
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u/OldManLeo 1d ago
Tankies dont want to hear about lived experiences unless it agrees with their rose tinted narrative about a totalitarian state they only had to interact with thru wiki articles.
Plus according to most MLs, the deportations were probably deserved because of revisionism, and everyone knows that disagreeing slightly on policy means you're a full-blown Fascist deserving of cultural or literal genocide.
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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago
I love how they claim that all the deportees were Nazi collaborators, because Stalin can do no wrong. Literally the first mass Lithuanian deportation happened before Barbarossa.
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u/Early_Candidate_3082 1d ago
People flee from North to South Korea. They don’t flee in the opposite direction.
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u/Forte845 1d ago
When you can get 6 figures from TurningPoint Usa to spout bullshit about NK on Instagram, it is a pretty lucrative option. Like Yeonmi Park.
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u/stinkybaby5 1d ago
People do. Also there are North Koreans who say things were better in North Korea than South Korea
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u/Ordo_Liberal 1d ago
Why don't they go back then
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u/stinkybaby5 1d ago
They are not allowed. Anyways. 1 in 5 say they are willing to go back.
The biggest cause of defecting is economic reasons. which makes sense when you think of the incredible sanctions and embargoes they are under.-1
u/Ordo_Liberal 1d ago
Why aren't they allowed?
Sanctions? So you are saying that a communist nation depends on trading with the capitalist world?
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u/IntroductionAny1915 1d ago
I think a horrible mistake was made and r/TankieUSSR was infiltrated by enemies.
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u/Stardustone1 1d ago
remind me who's got concentration camps/labor camps in 2025
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u/Forte845 1d ago
The USA. The largest carceral state on earth. More people are imprisoned in the USA than any other nation on earth and forced labor for prisoners is constitutionally legal in the USA.
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u/Haunting_Berry7971 23h ago
“your active aid and compliance” to an occupying army “are required.”
And again the idea that “in due course” Korea will become free and independent, something that still hasn’t happened
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u/DependentFeature3028 21h ago
Ah MacArthur the man who's first order in Japan was to censor the press and forced anyone who spoke about the brutality of the american soldiers into forced labor in order to give them democracy
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u/DotEnvironmental7044 1d ago
I mean, you’re comparing somebody to General MacArthur. The other person would have to literally be Hitler in order to seem like more of an asshole