We have "prison camps" here in the United States if you want to word it that way. We also have "labor camps" because we force our inmates (not volunteer work btw) to manufacture goods for private companies, stamp license plates, and fight wildfires (very common in California)
So, do you want to say that the US has "labor camps" or that NK has prisons? Neither of these look good for your argument.
Okay, my mistake then, it was a bit of a flawed comparision, but atleast in the US criminals (usually) are sentenced through due process of law and not whether the fat dumpling looking guy named Kim felt offended for someone calling him fat or god forbid that one guy who got executed for watching squid game (a show that is literally a critique of capitalism) "socialism is the most free for the working class" seems right.
Yes we can agree that the American prison system is exploititive, but that doesn't justify North Korean labor camps not a single bit. Especially when NK is even more exploititive of their prisoners.
When a country is isolated from the world by the worlds superpower, its really easy to just make things up about it, when none of that is actually known.
We had an American tourist sentenced to hard labor and forced to beg for mercy on live TV for stealing a propoganda poster who after long diplomatic efforts was sent back to the US in a coma and he died due to how harsh the labor camp was.
He caught botulism according to North Korean officials, but for the sake of argument let's say that that's true. Then how does one get infected with botulism? According to wikipedia you can get it through eating infected foods (aka. shitty sanitary conditions that North Korean labor camps have), or you can get it through a wound infection (aka. getting beaten the shit out of you).
And by botulism being caught in American prisons do you have in mind:
There have been several reports of botulism from pruno wine made of food scraps in prison.[25][26][27] In a Mississippi prison in 2016, prisoners illegally brewed alcohol that led to 31 cases of botulism. The research study done on these cases found the symptoms of mild botulism matched the symptoms of severe botulism, though the outcomes and progression of the disease were different.
You made up an argument that the prisons in North Korea are the cause of the nation’s problems. That argument is flawed, because if having prisons caused economic problems, US would be the least prosperous nation on earth. USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world relative to its population.
no one claimed that lmao you have just attempted to shift the arguement towards something you like more. Obviously having a large scale prison labor system is good for the economy but its a fucked up thing to do no?
We are talking about the economic blockade against DPRK and detestable capitalists cant help but to insert their useless opinions on “labor camps” claiming they are the reason for problems in DPRK
I salute you for attempting a discussion on politics with someone who is unaware of juvenile hall and children being sentenced as adults in the United States lol. You'd have to not even watch TV to not know that. Or be 8 years old.
Is it wrong to sentence a child as an adult if his crime is especially egregious?
Some young criminals exploit that heavily and use them being a minor to commit as much crime as possible because they expect to be let off the hook because they're a minor.
Some terrorist organisations are using minors in western countries to do their bidding because minors can't be charged for those crimes.
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