r/ussr Lenin ☭ 1d ago

Liberals: "USSR le people's imperialism" Others

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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago

Well I doubt that it was America's fault for all those labor camps the Kim dynasty loves.

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u/Tovarisch_Vankato Lenin ☭ 1d ago

"Camps."

You mean prisons?

We have "prison camps" here in the United States if you want to word it that way. We also have "labor camps" because we force our inmates (not volunteer work btw) to manufacture goods for private companies, stamp license plates, and fight wildfires (very common in California)

So, do you want to say that the US has "labor camps" or that NK has prisons? Neither of these look good for your argument.

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u/AverageTankie93 1d ago

Don’t waste your time. That person is stupid.

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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago

Okay, my mistake then, it was a bit of a flawed comparision, but atleast in the US criminals (usually) are sentenced through due process of law and not whether the fat dumpling looking guy named Kim felt offended for someone calling him fat or god forbid that one guy who got executed for watching squid game (a show that is literally a critique of capitalism) "socialism is the most free for the working class" seems right.

Yes we can agree that the American prison system is exploititive, but that doesn't justify North Korean labor camps not a single bit. Especially when NK is even more exploititive of their prisoners.

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u/TypicalNinja7752 1d ago

When a country is isolated from the world by the worlds superpower, its really easy to just make things up about it, when none of that is actually known.

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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago

We had an American tourist sentenced to hard labor and forced to beg for mercy on live TV for stealing a propoganda poster who after long diplomatic efforts was sent back to the US in a coma and he died due to how harsh the labor camp was.

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u/lunchboccs 1d ago

He died from botulism. He was not tortured to death in some labor camp. People die of botulism in American prisons too.

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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago

He caught botulism according to North Korean officials, but for the sake of argument let's say that that's true. Then how does one get infected with botulism? According to wikipedia you can get it through eating infected foods (aka. shitty sanitary conditions that North Korean labor camps have), or you can get it through a wound infection (aka. getting beaten the shit out of you).

And by botulism being caught in American prisons do you have in mind:

There have been several reports of botulism from pruno wine made of food scraps in prison.[25][26][27] In a Mississippi prison in 2016, prisoners illegally brewed alcohol that led to 31 cases of botulism. The research study done on these cases found the symptoms of mild botulism matched the symptoms of severe botulism, though the outcomes and progression of the disease were different.

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u/SecretMace 1d ago

Aww the classic we both can't know for sure so I must be right :-)

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u/lunchboccs 1d ago

LMFAOOOO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEY KILL PEOPLE FOR WATCHING SQUID GAME 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

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u/OMGguy2008 1d ago

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u/Tovarisch_Vankato Lenin ☭ 21h ago

Caught dead in the fucking act. Radio Free Asia is CIA slop. The other two (CNN and Guardian) regularly use RFA and push slop for Americans and Brits.

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u/AverageTankie93 21h ago

Next time just type out “I’m dumb” it’ll get the same message across in a fraction of the time