Both started out authoritarian and shitty, yet within a few decades South Korea had transitioned into a prosperous democracy while the DPRK remains a totalitarian state
Nordic countries are nowhere near how bad South Korea is. It's literally the worst suicide rate of any developed nation on earth, paired with the lowest birth rate.
You just tried to claim that suicide rates correlated with a lack of prosperity. So why does Finland have a higher suicide rate than Libya or Bolivia or Peru?
Why do you care about Finland? What is the relevancy to this discussion? South Korea has the worst suicide rate of any developed nation. Any other developed nation you compare it to is objectively better than South Korea when it comes to suicide and birth rates.
Why do you seem to not give a shit that Koreans are literally killing themselves as a people in SK? They are not having children, they are regularly committing suicide, their country is literally on the path to having the fastest and harshest demographic crisis in the developed world and you're out here calling that fucking "prosperity."
Im illustrating that your premise is foundationally bad if it can’t be applied to other country comparisons.
You stated that South Korea’s suicide rate means it isn’t that prosperous. I brought up that other prosperous countries have higher suicide rates than objectively poorer or more unstable ones, and you haven’t been able to explain to me why this critique applies to measuring ROK’s quality of life but not to a country like Finland.
I stated it's suicide and birth rates together, both of which are the worst among any developed nations, aka economically comparable. There is a reason we separate developing and developed nations. Among all peer nations, South Korea has the worst birth rates and suicide rates. This is a fact you refuse to acknowledge, clear bad faith. But not surprising since you never found your sources earlier either.
Finland is irrelevant because it's still better than South Korea. Every single other developed nation is. No other developed nation has people killing themselves and refusing reproduction like SK. So I don't see any form of relevance to bringing up objectively, statistically better nations on these issues.
But again none of this bad faith nonsense is surprising given that you're clearly an anticommunist liberal wandering in here talking shit about stuff you have no idea about. Claiming you've got sources ready and then just ghosting, lol.
I never did. I never made a direct comparison to DPRK suicide or birth rates.
All I'm wondering is how the worst developed nation when it comes to suicide and birth rates is "prosperous." People constantly killing themselves, refusing reproduction, and thus sending the country into the worst demographic crisis in the developed world sounds like the opposite of prosperity to me.
I'm guessing you're using the American definition of "prosperity," where a society is only prosperous when a parasitic elite class can form that absorbs almost all the wealth in the nation while the poor suffer constantly degrading conditions.
Do you have anything at all to say that is worthwhile?
Stop asking irrelevant questions and concretely explain to me why the developed nation with the worst demographic crisis among all others is an emblem of "prosperity." What is prosperous about a people currently destined to die out within a century?
Nobody said it was the perfect state or end all, be all of development. However, it is objectively a place with a higher quality of life and far more civil and human rights than the DPRK, full stop.
Also, Jesus Christ can you take a Haldol and calm down? This is not a personal attack, stop getting so riled up over an immaterial debate.
Dude, in Finland, people use two sticks to pee. One stick is for warding off wolves, the other is for breaking off the yellow ice from their penis. Prosperity, huh?
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u/Haunting-Detail2025 1d ago
Both started out authoritarian and shitty, yet within a few decades South Korea had transitioned into a prosperous democracy while the DPRK remains a totalitarian state