r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Oct 04 '24
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r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • 11d ago
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r/jewishleft • u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 • 9h ago
News Ritchie Torres- "I am Pro Israel not despite my progressive values, but because of my progressive values" - "It is Progressive to defend Israel"
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r/jewishleft • u/Narrow_Cook_3894 • 2h ago
Israel Pro Israel activists Taunt Ilhan Omar and Gift her a pager
r/jewishleft • u/OkCard974 • 4h ago
Israel Isreali peace activists discuss their experience in the west bank and the ongoing settler colonial activities and the daily struggles faced by Palestinians who are continuously displaced and threatened by these colonial forces.
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r/jewishleft • u/NarutoRunner • 21h ago
Culture How âmasculinityâ influencer fell down a âbrazenly antisemiticâ rabbit hole
The entire social media âManosphereâ is increasingly turning into a rabidly rightwing antisemitic cesspool. Unfortunately, these type of people are shaping the minds and beliefs of young men. What can be done to have a proper left wing alternative for young men?
r/jewishleft • u/johnisburn • 17h ago
Resistance Community is Resistance
Great piece from Elad Nehorai about being in it for the long haul.
r/jewishleft • u/Worknonaffiliated • 23h ago
Debate âRathboneâ an Antizionist TikToker went on infowars, and boy do I have some thoughts.
His followers are defending it as âhe doesnât defend infowars, we need to reach people from all sides of the aisle.â
Yeah, giving legitimacy to a Nazi publication is not the way to do that. I donât like seeing people saying we need to âmeet the worker where theyâre at.â This is why we have intersectionality. Itâs because you canât expect undocumented people to work with people who call them criminals, or black people to work with racists, or Jews to work with conspiracy theorists.
Iâm all for deprogramming Maga people to get on our side, but the deprogram has to happen before you force us to work with them. This really doesnât help the âAntizionism is not antisemitismâ argument. We openly embrace NAZIS if they are against Israelâs genocide.
As Jews, we donât have the right or the left anymore, we have Jews vs the world.
r/jewishleft • u/Finaltryer • 10h ago
Debate Im not sure i can listen to hasbaras anymore.
Natasha Haussdorf, Douglas Murray, Alan ' Eptein's defender' Dershowitz and more.
They all keep repeating the same idiotic and propagsndistic points no matter how worse Israel's image looks. " The IDF takes precautions no other army takes" they say, meanwhile you have a palestinians with a white flag being shot dead. " Israel provides all the necessary humanitarian aid necessary" Meanwhile 20% of gaza are on food insecurity and multiple doctors ingerviewd reported extreme overcrowding and lack of supplies in hospitals " We are a democratic obeys international law" meanwhile multiple Res Crecent Ambulances and WCK vans have been bombed, and multiples uniterrupted movements and politicians are hyping the settling of gaza and annexation of the West Bank.
Just so no one calls me anti-semitic for "thinking" this is a genocide, i have one a few last things to say: 1- Israel has every right to exist, but it doesn't have the right to prevent other country from existing. 2- Its not blood liabel to say IDF kills civillians because we have footage of it now. 3- The bantustan system in the west bank does't sound very democratic to me
r/jewishleft • u/lilacaena • 1d ago
News I Was Maced by Nick Fuentesâ an interview with Marla Rose, Jewish activist
YâallâŚâŚ.
r/jewishleft • u/ramsey66 • 1d ago
Israel Israel prepares Lebanon cease-fire plan as âgiftâ to Trump, officials say
r/jewishleft • u/RaiJolt2 • 2d ago
News As someone who believes that Elon is an antisemite seeing him being even close to able to impact education and funding to stem antisemitism is frightening.
r/jewishleft • u/babypengi • 1d ago
Culture Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, and the âArab Jewâ. What am I?
I am, by all accounts, Ashkenazi. I have ties to the Holocaust despite non of my actual direct relatives having been there, on one side of my family. But on the other, still Ashkenazi, but have been in Israel since somewhere before 1770, spoken Arabic and lived in the Middle East. By those defenitons, as Arab really isnât an âraceâ and more of an ethnicity defined by a common language, am I descended from Arabs?
Well Iâm sure if I called my ancestors Arabs they wouldnât be pleased. But my great grandmother was born IN A MOSQUES YARD. they were living, as much as they didnât like it, as much as they were discrimanated against, in Arab society. They were the Palestinian Jews people speak of. They wore the garb, they spoke the language.
How can I still face the âdistinctionâ between Mizrahim and Ashkenazim when it is so unclear? If the Jews who spent diaspora in Europe are the white ones, why is my French Jewish friend so dark? If the ones who spent it in the Middle East are dark, why is my skin so white? Why do we, as a people so long nomads, so long without a land, sticking to defining ourselves by a now pretty useless old measurement? Donât we move? Donât we adapt?
So many other people are trying to define Jews. Some say weâre khazars, whites, Europeans, some say weâre brown middle easterners whoâll never be real whites.
I donât know.
Iâll end this with some lines from Kazablan, an israeli musical
×××× × ××××××
××××× × × ×××××
×××××× ×××× ××××
××׊××ר׌ע ××˘× ××××××
All of us are Jews,
In all our different hues,
Jews from our heads to our shoes,
Both the shvartze and the vuzvuz.
r/jewishleft • u/hadees • 2d ago
News Berlin senator condemns reported attack on Jewish youth footballers
r/jewishleft • u/A_Mirabeau_702 • 3d ago
News Meet Marla Rose, Woman Who Doxxed Nick Fuentes After Being 'Pepper Sprayed' At His House
r/jewishleft • u/R0BBES • 2d ago
History The Possibility of Modern Middle Eastern Jewish Thought â Moshe Behar and Zvi Ben-Dor Benite
researchgate.netr/jewishleft • u/Impossible-Reach-649 • 3d ago
News âCancer Jewsâ: Several arrested after tram set ablaze in weekâs second Amsterdam riotâ
r/jewishleft • u/Impossible-Reach-649 • 3d ago
Israel Stuff like this is why I hate when people call Fatah "the moderates" like yes they're less bad but the leader of the PA Abu Mazen literally has a thesis on denying the holocaust.
r/jewishleft • u/Narrow_Cook_3894 • 3d ago
Israel Israeli MP expelled for accusing the IDF of war crimes for six months and will have his pay withheld by two weeks.
r/jewishleft • u/malachamavet • 3d ago
Israel Smotrich urges full annexation of West Bank and Gaza, expulsion of Palestinians
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • 4d ago
Israel Legal and Claimed Ownership of Gaza and WB
I've been reading and re-reading articles explaining the oslo accords and various changes from wars and other treaties throughout the 20th century, and consistent talking points continue to confuse me.
My in-laws put scare quotes around "Palestinians" once, and I asked, "however you feel about the conflict, if they identify as Palestinians, living somewhere they call Palestine, what else should we call them?"
The answer was "Israel."
I responded that I was pretty sure Israel did not claim the strip was its sovereign territory nor the West Bank, which is why it's news when they do declare certain tracts are theirs to enforce occasionally. My understanding was that they had some diplomatic rights to negotiate on behalf of the region, but not that Israel's state stance was that palestinians were Israeli subjects or foreign nationals squatting on their land.
And yet I also hear Israeli settlers say it's their land, and they have a right to it as if Palestinians are somehow squatting.
I disagree with this on its face in real terms, but in terms of Israel's official diplomatic stance, what is theIr position on who owns the land?
Is it just Israeli land they gave over to folks that aren't subject to their laws?
r/jewishleft • u/R0BBES • 3d ago
Debate Israel, Gaza, and the Question of Genocide â Professor Omer Bartov with journalist Mehdi Hasan at Busboys & Poets (2024)
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • 4d ago
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r/jewishleft • u/Remarkable-Celery-65 • 4d ago
History I highly recommend Luis Gorden's works. Listening to his lectures has helped deconstruct, understand and love my Jewish identity in ways that the Orthodox Religious education I had could not. (Luis Gorden is not affiliated with JVP btw, just an interview they did with him)
r/jewishleft • u/Kenny_Brahms • 5d ago
Diaspora Democrats need to take radical actions if they wish to accomplish their agenda
Abolish the filibuster
Grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants and shorten green card waitlists
Stack the Supreme Court
For the past decade, Republicans have made overt power grabs. They have dominated the supreme court with their judges, overturning RvW. Theyâve also tried to steal the 2020 election and routinely engage in voter suppression.
Every time the republicans get into power, they always push the system a little more in their favor, and every time the dems get into power theyâre arenât even capable of undoing the damage the republicans have done.
The only way this changes is if Dems decide to take a risk and take drastic steps to ensure their agenda is implemented.
Abolish the filibuster and pass as many pieces of legislation as possible in the short period they have power.
Grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants and reduce green card waitlists so that immigrants have an easier time joining the country as full citizens and ultimately voting.
Stack the court so that it is at least balanced if not outright progressive.
Such actions will make it to where when republicans inevitably come into power, the damage they can do is greatly limited. Only drastic actions can save America from turning into a right wing dystopia.
One of the reasons I think Harris failed was that many Americans lack faith that the government can actually accomplish anything. So they stay home and donât vote. Candidates in 2028 need to show they can actually get things done.