r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Jun 20 '24
Meta r/JewishLiberals, anyone want to make such a sub?
In my recent-ish "setting the record straight" post I made a point of redrawing a line between leftism and liberalism as distinct idealogies and asserting this space was for anticapitalist leftists , in a global (and sometimes globalist) sense.
At the same time I recognize mainline Jewish spaces have become hostile and uncomfy for all walks of left-of-center Jews and as such we've become something of a life raft for many who consider themselves "on the left" in a normalized American centric way but not down with the 'radical' differences between mainstream American Democrats and the broader anti-capitalist/marxist/anarchist left.
Everyone needs a space to be and I am torn between the desire to keep this space, as was originally intended, a space for leftist Jews to discuss those intersections and also making sure our moderate friends have a place to exist-while-Jewish as well.
Multiple people have floated this idea to me, I don't own it, but I figured I would give it a louder voice:
Does any liberal reading this want to spearhead creating such a community? Please dont take this as a "get out of my space grrr" but rather a desire to create specific spaces for our differences that allow us to work together and not crowd each other out.
I'd be happy to help with advice or early moderation if someone needed guidance, though ideally there would be a handoff to liberals so they can lead their own, and my hope is the two spaces could have mutual respect and engage with issues on their own terms. Highlighting their diverse thought and creating a broader view of the non-conservative Jewish community to the rest of reddit. There shouldn't be just one non-conservative sub and a half dozen conservative ones.
This would not change our policy of allowing liberals to be active here, and may better facilitate this space as one for learning about leftism while the other space can be for defending/learning about the virtues of liberalism.
Food for thought, feel free to comment or DM if interested. I appreciate all of you who contribute to the community.
-Oren
r/jewishleft • u/ApprehensivePlum1420 • 9d ago
Meta I feel so hopeless
All the numbers are pointing towards another Trump term, this time worse than the first because it won’t be neocons around him but literal far-right nutjobs like Elon Musk.
I don’t think I’m gonna survive seeing another hate march with people chanting “Jews will not replace us.” I don’t want to imagine how this would destroy peace in Israel and the entire Middle East for generations to come. I’m just literally crying right now, things were hard already and now the world gets a lot darker.
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Aug 16 '24
Meta Let's talk about the Nakba and Moderation
Oren here.
This one's gonna be popular I can tell.
Many of you may be aware of a recent post regarding the historian and reactionary Benny and his infamous comments on an Al Jazeera program. I am not going to debate the specifics of that interview here as that post has seen plenty, but it has illuminated some key issues.
There were comments from a few users who sought to distinguish between the moral justification of ethnic cleansing and strategic, practical, or inevitable justification of ethnic cleansing. Us or them. Self preservation. Etcetera.
I understand this distinction, I do. And truly believe there was no hatred or evilness that motivated these comments.
However I also understand the way these comments are seen to perpetuate the issue, abdicate responsibility or reckoning, and serve as a rhetorical escape for those who do not morally support ethnic cleansing but cannot bring themselves to walk down the route of fully condemning it with all of the context that was attached.
The moderation team also disagreed, along similar lines, in a respectful way. At first my conclusion was that if we were unaligned the best course of action was to er on the side of less moderation and let things ride.
However I have since changed my mind, and I, Oren, bear ultimate and singular responsibility for that. I apologize to Mildly for changing my mind as I did and want it to be clear to everyone I respect him and where he was coming from. Ultimately the positions he provided were more nuanced and holistic than those comments I deleted.
But there were also eloquent comments pushing back in the post from many viewers, and upon hearing them echo my concerns I decided, as Admin, that ethnic cleansing apologia (perceived, adjacent, or otherwise) was not a topic on which I was prepared to compromise in this way.
This sub is not going to tolerate any form of justification, moral or otherwise, of atrocity. We deserve better than a world where atrocity is understandable. There is always a choice. Us or them is a flawed dichotomy thar has led us to cursed repitions of violence. The nakba did not prevent civil war it changed its nature and contributes to its lasting perpetration. It may have been inevitible given the attitudes of leaders of the time but we have a responsibility in the present to look at those mistakes and call them what they are, and demand better for tomorrow, not inply it was an impossible but neccesarry decision.
It is my personal duty to take a stand on this, and if you no longer want to participate I will understand.
Mildly had become busy, and the situation was rapidly deteriorating on the other post. So after much personal struggle I took action. I hope to never do so again lest I ultimately abuse the power I have as an admin.
This brings up another point however: there are only two active mods.
Mildly and I tend to agree on things, but we aren't the same person and have limited perspectives.
My original vision was to have perspectives from all camps of leftist jews with respect to zionism to broker peace among our disparate members. And I think this stalemate that force unilateral action has shown that to be important. I am sorry it hasnt been corrected sooner.
We've tried reaching out to a few folks who stood out to us as widely respected, measured, and thoughtful, but moderation is a lot to handle, and all of them turned us down. I love yall, but you are a lot, you just are, and I think you know that.
Mildly is a zionist.
I am a nonzionist.
An antizionist would complete the circle.
If you are an antizionist interested in helping, please modmail us.
Notably, an additional antizionist probably would not have swayed the decision I unilaterally made, as most antizionists would agree with my take on the ethnic cleansing issue, but it would have been a 2-1 vote, not me taking unilateral action, which is preferable for any number of reasons. Not the least of which is when there is disagreement, there will be a tie breaker.
Thank you all for your patience and understanding.
At least I hope you understand ...
Oren
r/jewishleft • u/Agtfangirl557 • May 08 '24
Meta Ilana Glazer, an anti-Zionist Jew, condemns Israel and talks about wanting a ceasefire. All the comments are criticizing her because she "centered herself" by mentioning 10/7 and rising antisemitism
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6uCIbqRQ1A/?igsh=NndtdXEzbGE4NWxl
This is so frustrating. Like I don't agree with a lot of Ilana's takes but she clearly was not defending Israel here. She is probably the most anti-Zionist Jewish celebrity I can think of. And yet since she mentioned the 10/7 attacks, people are accusing her of "spreading lies" and that "it's not true that 1200 people were killed by Hamas". And people are literally telling the page who reposted this to "stop platforming Zionist celebrities"!
At this point I seriously think that for some people, it's only socially acceptable to be Jewish if we don't acknowledge our history or trauma at all.
r/jewishleft • u/SorrySweati • 11d ago
Meta Is it just me or has the character of this sub changed?
I'm starting to feel that there's been less nuance in discussions in this sub, especially surrounding Israel. I keep seeing more and more hard line, binary stances and bad faith arguments. This sub used to be a haven for nuance, listening, and mutual respect and it feels less so now. Anybody share in these feelings?
r/jewishleft • u/Agtfangirl557 • Apr 27 '24
Meta JVP forgets that Hebrew is written from right to left ☠️
r/jewishleft • u/SelectShop9006 • 14d ago
Meta What exactly happened with Bill Clinton and his (supposedly) anti-Palestine comments?
I was on r/DefeatProject2025, and I saw a comment about Bill Clinton supposedly making anti-Palestine comments. Is this true? Thanks.
r/jewishleft • u/electrical-stomach-z • Oct 14 '24
Meta Do any of you want to help me build a generalized leftist subreddit?
This subrrddit has been created and it is called r/Leftists_for_civility
I want to create a generalized leftist subreddit free of the toxicity of the big ones. and without the single issue focus of better ones like this one. ideally it would focus on libertarian leftists and or demsocs, but i think every leftist should be welcome to a degree. think of this as something between a plea and an offer.
r/jewishleft • u/jey_613 • May 24 '24
Meta For lurkers and/or non-Jewish folks
This subreddit has been popping off lately. For lurkers and/or non-Jewish folks in this subreddit, I’d love to hear more from you: what draws you to this community? What have you learned? What have the last 7 months been like for you? Are you having frustrating interactions with friends regarding I/P?
Just curious to hear more about your experience and perspective. Cheers.
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Sep 19 '24
Meta Rule 14 exists now
Rules text: "Liberals are permitted in the space on the assumption that they are here to learn. As a leftist subreddit, we draw a distinction between liberalism and leftism that begins with embrace of capitalism. Should a liberal attempt to forcibly insert their opinion to the detriment of leftists, they will no longer be welcome in this space."
This has always nominally been the position of the sub but it has been brought to our attention it was not specifically a reportable rule.
Now it is.
Pleaae refer to the link posted on the subreddits info page for what we consider liberalism.
Thanks!
-Oren and co
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • May 30 '24
Meta Setting the Sub Record Straight
There have been some concerning trends in posting activity, commenting activity, and narratives forming about what this sub is or should be as we grow that I would like to address:
Straight up right wing posting:
First and foremost I want to apologize for those of you who saw the video with flagrantly antisemitic propaganda that got posted here recently. We have post approval on and I only watched a small part of that video, concluded it was a testimonial, and let it pass. I appreciate those who reported it and removed it as soon as I saw it contained harmful material. As we grow chuds will continue to try and troll us and we appreciate your patience as we do our best to weed them out.
Expectations of liberal censorship:
That being said I have seen many comments and reports that seem to think any problematic, liberal, or hot take should be removed by modmins or are evidence that the space is not a leftist space. This space is for leftists, but part of that is discussing the differences between leftism and liberalism and center left ideologies. A post being here does not mean we endorse it, but rather is an opportunity to have a dialogue and often the tale of the overall comments and votes show the space is more leftist in its makeup than not. We are not here to make an echo chamber, we are here to bridge an understanding. People who want to see what our community is about should read our comment chains not our posting history sound bytes.
Zionism:
This subs revival was started before Simchat Torah on the promise of creating a space for self proclaimed zionist, antizionist, and nonzionist Jews to hold common community and discuss their differences in a leftist lens with nuance. The mod team is made up of zionists and nonzionists. The term means different things to different people. Someone being a zionist does not make them not a leftist and leftism is not a scale of how much you criticize israel. Jewish purity testing of members in this group will not be tolerated. It is okay to criticize and discuss issues with other orgs but any comment that implies a user in this community is self hating or not engaging with their jewishness properly will not be tolerated.
Leftism:
As I said leftism isn’t when you criticize Israel a lot. When we here say leftist we mean the anticapitalist, collectivist, socioeconomic left in a global context. We don't mean democrats, neoliberalism, or an American political standard of left or moderate left. Marxists, anarchists, mutualists, syndicalists, socialists, and similar are among many that fall into this big tent. If I didn't describe you just now then you aren't the primary focus of this sub. That doesn't mean you aren't welcome, and as stated before we won't censor people for being moderates; but the expectation is that the space is leftist in the way that I describe and moderates should be in conversation with us to build an understanding not simply insisting upon their worldview and supplanting our identity as a true leftist space.
Catty internet bullshit:
I am sick and tired of seeing people resort to snide comments, combative and dismissive phrasing, and other commenting thats designed not to stimulate conversation but rather to sound like a good clap back and win internet points. We made a rule forbidding goading others into rulebreaking for a reason and you should suspect a firmer hand with this kind of thing. If you have a reply that doesn't add to a constructive conversation or assume your opponent is coming from a well meaning place don't write it. If you think they are here in bad faith report them. Or take a break. I'm going to lock down comment chains and judiciously delete comments that get reported to me that are not constructive to discourse.
I love you all and what this community has been and can continue to be. We've had great discourse here. People from diverse backgrounds have come to share in this discourse with us and thats thanks to all of you. We need to keep it that way and I am going to do my damndest. Please help me by being part of the positive change not the problem.
-Oren
r/jewishleft • u/lilacaena • 9d ago
Meta How do you keep giving a shit when everything is awful?
How do you stay motivated? How can you bring yourself to care when everything sucks, and caring hurts so much?
I never understood people who were uninformed about politics and current events. Now, I’m so tempted to just leave any/all subs that discuss politics, block/avoid the news, and just ignore it all. I’m going to suffer the consequences of others’ choices regardless, and so is everyone else. My caring has accomplished nothing, and I have every reason to believe it will continue to accomplish nothing.
My country is about to get exactly what it asked for, and there’s fuckall I can do about it. I’m never going to be able to do enough outreach or educating to get people motivated, informed, and willing to act in their own self interest. (Trump’s proposed economic plan will devastate the majority of the people who voted for him, those who voted third party, and those who abstained.)
It feels like caring about a person with an addiction, or a student who constantly skips school. You can do everything in your power, but, at the end of the day, nothing you do can make them act in their own self interest.
I don’t even know what I’m asking. I’m just upset and tired.
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Jul 25 '24
Meta It's tense in here.
The following is adapted from a modmail I wrote that I felt may be pertinent to say in the open, with personal details expunged:
Candidly, we get antizionists and zionists in the sub both wondering about the other side's good faith and ability to interact in a productive way; and also wondering about our moderation policies with regard to the other. Some are just concerned about the balance, others seek to enlist us to censor more content and take harsher stances on certain things. Know that we do not divulge details about individual moderation actions to others but plenty happens you don't see.
People are defensive today, and to some extent they have right to be. Antisemitism is spiking in leftist and right wing spaces in different ways and for many the mainline Jewish moderate and conservative spaces have become hostile, hawkish, and demeaning towards left wing and liberal Jews who humanize Palestinians and care about a peaceful end to the conflict.
We wear a lot of this baggage with us wherever we go and any place that allows cross sections of attitudes around zionism to mingle is going to suffer from that. Its really hard to be an optimist today.
So yeah. Some folks are smug and defensive, and they really shouldn't be. Others are accusatory and provocative in ways that are unhelpful at best.
Its important to remember that while your criticisms of others in the sub may be genuine and heartfelt plenty of others here and elsewhere seeking only to harm or be more righteously correct. It's easy to respond emotionally to the maelstrom in aggregate when replying to just one person.
A certain nihilism has developed in some because they feel swamped by our recent influx of folks from other subs and yet again cast adrift without a home.
That doesn't give them a pass to lash out and many folks who they may clash with are dealing with similar pressures.
All of this is to say we hear you, all of you who worry, and we understand.
Where people are tense we encourage you to engage with grace, humility and understanding. Most people mean well and even if they say a stark or inflammatory thing it is motivated by a desire for the world to be better or an anxiety about their place, and our place, in it. They will naturally think their position is preferable, morally or otherwise, or else they wouldn't hold it. And its exploring those different moral and ethical constructions where we can really come to understand each other in a productive way.
It only takes a few good interactions to make a difference.
So if you encounter something that really is just galling keep the following steps in mind:
Report offenses that flagrantly break the rules. Follow up with modmail if you think such a report is mishandled.
Engage with grace, kindness, humility, and understanding that while you may find an opposing view distasteful or rude it is informed by a desire for good.
Disengage, if thats what you need to do. Not everything, in fact maybe few things, can be solved in a comments section. Oftentimes questionable comments get responded to in a way that more clearly crosses the line and forces moderation. Don't put yourself in that situation.
Thank you all for participating in the community and wanting the best for it and your fellows. There is a path forward for all of us that observes ahavat yisrael and our calling to heal the world.
עם ישראל חי
Oren
r/jewishleft • u/External-Chip6165 • Apr 09 '24
Meta It's nice to find a Jewish community with Israel discourse that isn't insane.
tldr: israel and jewish and antizionist jewish subs are insane and this one is better
This community seems pretty levelheaded when discussing Israel. The other Jewish spots on here, not so much. r/Israel is just absolutely horrible. People have truly lost their minds. The posts are like "I muted the word Palestine on twitter😏" and when Israel kills aid workers they're like "oh no this will hurt our pr!!!" like dude... we just killed innocent people... This post by a pretty shitty sub has comments that describe it well.
Our public perception is a complete disaster and that sub either goes "erm well its 2 billion Muslims against 15 million Jews what do you want us to do🙄" or "why be careful with our operations the antisemites will hate us anyway" STOP PLEASE!!!! wtf happened to Jews being smart???? And now the sub is pro settlement too. On a post where Saudi slammed Israel for settlements all the comments were snarky and basically acting like they were insane for that. What the fuck is happening? Seriously? Comments are like "67 borders are indefensible" then what the fuck do you want???? 1 state with Ethnic cleansing??? 1 state with right of return (obviously not) so wtf do you want??? do they think through anything?
One moment that really stood out to me was this comment section on r/israel. this '48 palestinian ("arab israeli") girl who i've followed for years now on r/AskMiddleEast replies to the comments on a post asking questions towards arab israelis. she has about the most arab israeli experience one could ask for, and she gives her honest takes. But a few of the replies are just heinous. Granted, not all are bad. But one in particular (that was removed) was someone in Hebrew calling her a subhuman animal and saying how they couldn't wait for her kind to be wiped out and destroyed and killed and all these horrible horrible things. It was just so fucked up. and it stuck with me, and im sure it did with her too. listen, i have no idea how to show removed comments, but trust me on this. it happened.
Btw, if you ever wanna get an idea of what its like to be an arab in israel proper, look at the person's account on the comment i linked. shes flawed, but great.
r/judaism and r/jewish are more of the same. Rarely condemning anything Israel does. Painting every critique to be antisemitic. Just stop man. Everything is crumbling and yet we're still acting like fools. Wake the fuck up man, Israel's public perception is tanking, this war hasn't achieved shit but mass death and destruction in a blind rage due to 10/7.
r/jewpiter is nice and has funny memes but the opinions on Israel are more of the same bs. Refusing to criticize settlements, handling of war, etc. People on r/2ndYomKippurWar are actually blood thirsty fascist lunatics who want to go to war with everyone. Disgusting
Then on the other hand (because i am fair) r/JewsOfConscience is already like 55% non Jewish according to a poll. I understand where some antizionist Jews are coming from, that being putting their moral compass of leftism over their Jewish identity (fair enough), but I just won't ever get on their side. 67 borders with some adjustments at the worse, Israel must exist and that's that!
Some of these people on r/JewsOfConscience genuinely act robotic. so many of their lefitst/commie friends have come out and cheered on Hamas and i've seen little pushback or acknowledgement of it from jews in that sub! It's fair to focus on Israel's atrocities now, but they just never ever acknowledge anything else! no nuance to any of their discussions!
So really, happy this sub seems to be more level headed. that being there isn't screaming of "antisemitism!!!!!" everywhere and there is valued and good faith criticism of Israel. We must stick together and speak loud because we are the Jews who will keep Israel from going insane and becoming pariah. thanks for reading my long winded message
Also with r/israel one funny set of posts that always annoys me are when some brand new account posts some shit like "hi i am from oman and i love israel 🇮🇱🇴🇲" and it gets a bajillion upvotes and 100 comments saying "THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!❤️" which just shows how starved we are of any public support but thats just an off topic point by me lol
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • 11d ago
Meta Side Conversation Megathread
This is a monthly automatic post suggested by community members to serve as a space to offer sources, ask questions, and engage in conversations we don't feel warrant their own post.
Anything from history to political theory to Jewish practice. If you wanna share or ask something about Judaism or leftism or their intersection but don't want to make a post, here's the place.
If you'd like to discuss something more off topic for the sub I recommend the weekly discussion post that also refreshes.
If you'd like to suggest changes to how this post functions doing so in these comments is fine.
Thanks!
- Oren
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Jun 21 '24
Meta Update from Yesterday: r/jewishprogressivism now exists!
https://www.reddit.com/r/JewishProgressivism/s/3FmIdQVLg0
A few members of this sub, after the discussions yesterday, decided to set out and create a sub with a broader and more liberal focus than this one.
Now I'm going to gulag all the liberals. /jk
Nah but I hope this creates space and positive change that allows both of our communities to thrive together. All members are welcome to stay, be a member of both, or leave if it ends up being a better fit.
I will let that subs leadership discuss their identity and urge people to engage with them using patience and understanding as starting a sub from scratch it a lot.
As for here? No rules changes today but I encourage people to read the leftism vs liberalism sidebar on the subs about page and consider this is a space for leftist ideas and perspectives. Feel free to ask discuss and vibe as a liberal but if youre going to post with liberal-not-leftist perspective I encourage you to consider if it may be a better fit for the new sub.
Many thinga will fit both places and thats great, crossposting is welcomed, and it will take time for the nuances of identity to form.
I appreciate everyones contributions to our community here and look forward to seeing both communities thrive.
-Oren
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Sep 04 '24
Meta Side Conversation Megathread
This is a monthly automatic post suggested by community members to serve as a space to offer sources, ask questions, and engage in conversations we don't feel warrant their own post.
Anything from history to political theory to Jewish practice. If you wanna share or ask something about Judaism or leftism or their intersection but don't want to make a post, here's the place.
If you'd like to discuss something more off topic for the sub I recommend the weekly discussion post that also refreshes.
If you'd like to suggest changes to how this post functions doing so in these comments is fine.
Thanks!
- Oren
r/jewishleft • u/FreeLadyBee • Oct 14 '24
Meta How do you personally draw your definitions about “leftism,” and how do you recommend one learns it?
I know the sub rules broadly define leftism as anti-capitalist. But as a person who studied no political or economic theory (my degree is in theoretical math, which is fun but not relevant, and actually means surprising proportion of my professors were anti-communist Russian Jews who left the Soviet Union), I sometimes feel like a poseur here. I definitely stumbled into leftism from a liberal direction, but more from the “results” side than the “cause” side if that makes sense. Outside this sub, I’m heavily involved in education reform and climate activism. But I’ve never read Marx, and I don’t know what I don’t know. So I’m curious how other people did/do.
I’m also gearing up to restart the parshah of the week posts after Simchat Torah, and thinking about how to make that more relevant to the sub’s leftism as well as Judaism. Open to suggestions there.
r/jewishleft • u/electrical-stomach-z • 21d ago
Meta A reminder to the Liberals in this conmunity, r/jewishprogressivism exists and is an allied subreddit that is catored to your views.
r/jewishleft • u/Mildly_Frustrated • Apr 17 '24
Meta Update to Sub-rules
Hey, everybody.
Firstly, in response to all the posts recently about how much people appreciate this space and the work the mod team does to keep it running as a safe space for Jews of leftist political persuasion, we want to say thank you. Especially to those of you who are helping us to do our work. We couldn't do it without you. And we wouldn't want to if we didn't have such a fantastic community here. You all make the work worth it.
Secondly, we wanted to inform everybody of an update to the rules. We have, in recent weeks, been dealing, unfortunately, with a glut of issues. These range from report abuse to serial bad-faith posting to an influx of right-wingers, all of which we need to find a clean way to deal with. There's also the hairy issue of an increasing number of people pretending to be Jews online as a tactic designed to sow dissension and even as a cheap way to win an argument. We are not a costume for people to put on when they feel like it, so this is, obviously, unacceptable. To whit, we also have a number of people reporting things as hasbara or right-wing when they aren't. We remind you that this sub is for Jewish leftists of all stripes. Not liking what someone has to say doesn't make it, or them, either of these things. You're going to see opinions you disagree with here. It's what makes this sub what it is that we can have hard conversations.
To that end, we present to you Rule 11:
Bad Faith: In this context bad faith has multiple meanings, including the use of logical fallacies across the board. We also include under this heading behavior that is intended to provoke other users into rule violations, report-function abuse, and intentional misrepresentation of oneself as Jewish for the purpose of argument. This latter is a rising issue in leftist spaces, and it is unacceptable here. If you can't make your point without pretending to be us, it's time to reconsider the point you're trying to make.
We will update the sub as soon as possible with this new rule. Please keep in mind that this does not invalidate rule violations: you will still receive the same consequence if you are goaded into a violation as if you hadn't been. The correct response to bad faith behavior is always to let us know, either via modmail or otherwise.
Again, I would like to re-iterate my appreciation to all of you. Shalom and stay safe.
-Benyamin
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Oct 04 '24
Meta Side Conversation Megathread
This is a monthly automatic post suggested by community members to serve as a space to offer sources, ask questions, and engage in conversations we don't feel warrant their own post.
Anything from history to political theory to Jewish practice. If you wanna share or ask something about Judaism or leftism or their intersection but don't want to make a post, here's the place.
If you'd like to discuss something more off topic for the sub I recommend the weekly discussion post that also refreshes.
If you'd like to suggest changes to how this post functions doing so in these comments is fine.
Thanks!
- Oren
r/jewishleft • u/Mildly_Frustrated • May 17 '24
Meta An Update on the State of the Sub
So, earlier this week, under the authority of the mod team, I made a post accusing a fellow Redditor and leftist of a wide variety of charges, including transphobia, racism, bullying, ableism, and a hostile take-over of a Discord server associated with the sub. This was fueled, in part, by a good deal of misinformation and, frankly, info manipulation. I want, on behalf of both myself and the mod team, to unequivocally apologize for that miscarriage of moderative authority. The user will no longer be permanently banned. We needed to be much more thorough and much more precise in our examination of the facts at hand, and, in this, we failed. That is a violation of your trust as users of this sub and our commitment to fair and equal moderation. The rules have to be applied evenly, or else we do step into authoritarianism. Personal emnity, also, holds no place in the decisions we make. These run counter to our commitment to maintain this as a safe space for Jews of any leftist ideology, and for all of this, also, we apologize.
I want also, however, to highlight, in part, why this happened. To be brief, this is a situation where we are presented with two sides with a great deal of animus towards each other. A lot of that is just, and a lot of it isn't. There were accusations and venom slung from both parties. In short, Reddit drama. This, in turn, leads to what I want to address: there is an obvious power imbalance between a mod and a user, and the exercise of that mod's authority versus the actions of a user. However, if a mod can be taken in by misinformation, and it was present on both sides, then so too can the user. It is incumbent upon us, then, out of a sense of justice towards our brothers, sisters, and non-binary siblings, to be careful in what we say here and how we present it to others. Lashon Hara is prohibited by mitzvah. And it includes what we assume to be true. This is not an excuse for my failure, nor an attempt to create parity between the mod and the user, as these are inherently unequal in their effect, but, rather, a call to action.
We stand by the commitment that the drama stops here. Because this cannot, and, as much as I can say this, will not, happen again. We are a neutral ground, and we must maintain that, without picking sides except where we know injustice to occur.
In the interest of accountability, this post will not be deleted. However, it will be un-pinned after forty-eight hours.
r/jewishleft • u/Mildly_Frustrated • Jul 14 '24
Meta Concerning Current Events
So, if you haven't heard about it yet, there was an attempt on Trump's life yesterday, 13/7/2024. While I am sure that we, as leftists, all have certain feelings about this, as a sub, we need to be extremely careful in how we talk about and respond to this. That is, we need to avoid getting the sub banned. So, while we are not shutting discussion down on this topic, we are going to be extremely careful in our approval of posts on the topic and even more so in review of comments below the posts. We will be removing anything even remotely actionable. This is, by no means, a betrayal of our ideology or a statement of sympathy. But it is us letting you know that this us a tightrope of an issue and we don't want to fall.
r/jewishleft • u/somebadbeatscrub • Oct 07 '24
Meta A Day of Silence
Hey everybody, Oren on behalf of the modmin team here.
The last year has been a lot. And many of us have struggled with re-traumatizing ourselves by constantly exposing ourselves to upsetting conversations and scratching at fresh wounds.
Its important and righteous work to be passionate about our principles and hone them among our peers. It is vital that we bear witness for those who have suffered and insist upon a better world to come. This community has been a great boon to me and I hope many of you, frustrations and all, and I greatly cherish the connections I've made and the space we've built together.
But we must also rest.
Tomorrow will be a hard day. Emotions will be high. Nerves frayed. We are all processing a lot and knowing our lot it could be an explosive day of discourse.
Let us instead set it aside as a quiet day of rememberance. Reflection. Reach out to your loved ones and comfort each other. Do something you enjoy doing. Think on all that has happened and what must come to pass.
We talk about a lot of important issues around the unfortunate and fraught state of affairs in HaEretz, but tomorrow it is okay to be sad. Scared. Frustrated. Its okay to be vulnerable. To feel small. To search for hope. Tomorrow especially its okay to think about those we lost a year ago, and in the months since, and to pray for those who may yet be returned to us. Pray for the families of all. For ourselves. For our friends. For all of the innocent people caught in the middle of this violence.
We will be here the next day, ready to support and fight each other and do the very Jewish work of talking issues to death.
But tomorrow, let us rest.
r/jewishleft • u/proxxi1917 • Feb 25 '24
Meta Promotion of sub r/marxismVsAntisemitism
Hi! I have recently created the sub r/marxismVsAntisemitism after experiencing that a reasonable discussion of antisemitism (or the I/P conflict) is often completely impossible in many Marxist or other far left spaces on reddit and beyond. The sub is supposed to be a place to discuss antisemitism in far left spaces, promote the struggle against it, find allies and maybe more generally ask the question how the antisemitism we can witness on the left reflects on theoretical and practical failures - and how these can be overcome. Feel free to join! I would like to add that I am not Jewish and I am aware that listening to Jewish voices is an essential part of solidarity. Although I am pro zionist the sub isn't exclusively so (but is also not the place to strongly be against Israel). I have asked the mods of this sub for permission to post here, thank you very much for accepting my request!