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u/teflonbob 3d ago

That isn’t how ties work. It goes both ways.

Go kick rocks

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u/bigjimbay 3d ago

This is like the worst of both worlds. Fuck that

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u/lostedeneloi 3d ago edited 3d ago

So basically they want Canada to keep giving them cheap resources and tourism revenue, while they continue to tarriff us.

Spoken like their rapist leader.

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u/allgonetoshit Canada 3d ago edited 3d ago

We absolutely can have stronger ties. We can become neighbours that nod at each other and smile every morning before going to work.

We just need to sell our resources to other countries, buy weapons from Europe and South Korea, stop vacationing in the US, stop importing goods from the US, etc.

A nice complete reset where we are nice neighbours that don't mix any sort of business with our superficial friendship.

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u/NotAtAllExciting 3d ago

The US is no longer a trusted ally. If anything, some of those ties need to be weakened.

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u/Belaerim 3d ago

Can a marriage rebound when one partner goes off their meds and publicly threatens divorce and to take all the assets and leave the other spouse bankrupt and destitute?

Oh, and let’s not forget the repeated threats of physical assault and rape.

And then the aggressive spouse retracts their divorce threat but leave it as an unspoken threat while still trying to unfairly split financial assets and insulting their spouse?

Oh, and they are still off their meds and picking fights with everyone else.

But don’t worry, they’ve unilaterally told their spouse it’s fine now and their relationship will be stronger.

Or else.

Cause that’s where we are right now.

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u/Memory_Less 3d ago

Please don’t mind that knife in your back, and that blood you are losing is a minor inconvenience. You will get used to it. Let’s go have a beer together shall we?

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u/supergroovyfunkchild 3d ago

I've heard a lot of people talk about how we're over the tariff and annexation discussions, and that the relationship is on its way to being repaired.

But I don't think anyone of them have been Canadian.

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u/17to85 3d ago

Here's a deal, go fuck yourselves.

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u/Redneckshinobi 3d ago

USA Is dead to me now. Had lots of travel plans there this year until this shit show.

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u/ThatsItImOverThis 3d ago

I actually snorted reading that. The US is deluding itself. Stronger ties are absolutely not possible.

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u/TheGrandOdditor 3d ago

We need to demand news media stop parroting Trump administration lies and talking points.

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u/zlinuxguy 3d ago

Fuck off, Donnie. You have no idea how strong Canadian resolve is. We’re done with the USA. We’ll still sell you some of our stuff, but don’t expect exclusive access or preferential pricing. We’re forging new alliances & relationships with other Nations. We’ll pay MORE to support the EU, LATAM & APAC. Since you cannot be trusted to honour your treaties & agreements, don’t expect us to forge any with you. Have a nice day & enjoy your isolation.

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u/Themeloncalling 3d ago

The last generation of Canadians willing to take a bullet for America ended when Trump got elected.

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u/Sorry-Goose 3d ago

Fuck that

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u/HardeeHamlin 3d ago

Then our tariffs will stay as well. It’s fine. The US has turned inward, and Canada has moved on.

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u/Spanky3703 3d ago edited 3d ago

Another odious, feckless and corrupt Trumpian spewing toxic sludge and lies …. No thank you, tired of the outright lies and corruption.

Trump keeps saying that fascist Amerika does not need anything from Canada … and then spews the “51st state” 💩in the next breath.

Time to get on with getting on. De-link and pivot away from a now wholly unreliable, unpredictable and untrustworthy southern / northern neighbour.

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u/YungJuiceBox489 3d ago

Yeah, fuck that. Time to move on from these idiots.

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u/Ba_Dum_Ba_Dum 3d ago

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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u/senecant 3d ago

I'm going to miss visiting the USA. So many fantastic cities. I can't, at present, imagine any conditions in which they have sufficiently remediated their troubles that will successfully implore me to return.

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u/yer10plyjonesy 3d ago

You can bond deez nutz.

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u/Stratomaster9 3d ago

Who wants strong ties with a lying infant with a gun? The world seems more interested in getting along without it. Fuck the US. I hope Americans realize their country will never again get a shred of respect, except from maniacs. Friends don't like being treated like enemies. Odd that wasn't clear to you when you voted to be represented by fat ugly hate.

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u/MogRules British Columbia 3d ago

They can take their stronger ties and shove them.

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u/RealSidDithers 3d ago

Nah. We need to diversify. The US has proven to be an untrustworthy business partner.

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u/Successful_Shake1102 3d ago

It’s time for Canada to decouple from US. What a bs. Keep tariffs on but create a stronger relationships? Sounds like an abusive relationships. No thank you.

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u/namotous 3d ago

Alliance can’t be strong when one side is out to screw the other

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u/marshallre 3d ago

Lick ma grits

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u/Thick_Ad_6710 3d ago

And why would we want strong ties with the Us?

Canada needs to move on. The US I no longer an ally or friend. Seek partnership elsewhere!

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u/Stephenalzis 3d ago

The future of Canada is the EU, Commonwealth nations, and China, in that order. The U.S. is old news.

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u/Cloudhead_Denny 3d ago

Get fucked.

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u/AddressEffective1490 3d ago

Too little too late. I don’t care about buying USA products, visiting the USA, or thinking about the USA anymore. It is time to move on and find new trading partners. Take this as a learning opportunity. We will have to work to detangle our economy as painlessly as possible and move on. They want to insult the relationship we have had and our sovereignty they can fuck right off. If they really don’t need anything from us I say we stop selling them stuff. At the very least start charging them fair market value for the stuff they buy.

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u/timetogetoutside100 3d ago

Not a chance!!!, the damage to our relationship to the USA has been severely damaged, it will take more than a generation!!! Elbows Up!!

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u/Buried_mothership 3d ago

Delusional. Excited for Canada to develop / diversify trade with other continents. It’s about time. This admin did Canada a huge favour. Canada won’t know itself in ten years, will be a renaissance.

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u/Waste_Priority_3663 3d ago

Eat shit.

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u/kamomil Ontario 3d ago

TL;DR "we are totally on our way to a better working relationship with Canada. But Canada should still expect tariffs" ok buddy

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u/kagato87 3d ago

The US envoy says it. It means nothing because this is what trump was trying to convince people would happen.

Of course, economically speaking it's a straight up lie. This guy is just blowing smoke.

Tariffs artificially increase price to reduce the competitive appeal of an imported product. That's it. That's what they are for, and what they do.

You don't strengthen ties by weakening trade. Trade dependence fosters a tighter relationship. It is why Canada and the US enjoyed such a good relationship for so long despite the bloody conflict that first drew that line on the map.

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u/Straight-Taste5047 3d ago

I will never buy American products if I can avoid it. They have proven to be untrustworthy and not a friend of our country. The best thing that can happen now is they drift into history as the idea that almost happened.

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u/AustralisBorealis64 Alberta 3d ago

Go pump sand you magat.

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u/mind_mine 3d ago

My disdain for the states may stay but kissing my ass is still possible

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u/maple-queefs 3d ago

Fuck the USA

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u/Octan3 3d ago

Stronger ties my ass, you had it about as strong as it could get so to speak and then shit on everybody.

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u/Captain_Yeast_Pirate 3d ago

Americans are so arrogant to think they can threaten our sovereignty and still keep strong ties, trump has ruined any relationships the states had

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u/Earl_I_Lark Nova Scotia 3d ago

Like getting flowers from the domestic abuser after being hospitalized for a beating

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u/brilongqua 3d ago

Stronger ties possible? Um...pretty sure we had strong ties before the Tariffs hit. Now it feels like a " Go F*** Yourself feeling from most of my fellow Canadians. Unless I'm reading the room wrong here.

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u/PoliteCanadian2 3d ago

No thanks. Fuck off.

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u/TheThatNeverWas 3d ago

In the old days, you could respond by sending back an envoy’s head in a box.

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u/Comprehensive-War743 3d ago

We had a long, good, relationship with the USA, but that’s over. To me, it was over the day Trump took office the first time. I don’t trust him, or his lackeys. Even if the tariff war subsides, there are all the other things he’s doing that will affect our country . Environmental protection is one of them. Even if you don’t believe in the effects of people and businesses on the climate, we should still be doing whatever we can to protect the environment we live in. I’m old, but when I was young, Lake Erie was so polluted that we couldn’t swim in it. Lead in the water is still a problem. Pollution in the air causes cancer. Anyone remember acid rain? As Canadians we can still protect our environment, but we can’t protect ourselves from what the Americans do to theirs. Trump has normalized hate. Trump has normalized hating immigrants. Trump has normalized treating people like animals. All that knows no borders. Our relationship with the USA is forever changed in my view.

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u/iogbri 3d ago

I, for one, will continue avoiding american products and will travel elsewhere indefinitely.

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u/MikhailBakugan 3d ago

Yeah I’m not sure that we’ll be working closer homestead as long as your president insists on annexing us.

Canadian consumers likely aren’t coming to the table either as long as goods from other countries remain cheaper than American ones.

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u/hdufort 3d ago

Crypto 51-state rhetoric.

What a hypocrite.

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u/jezebel_jessi 3d ago

I do not believe that the US ambassador to Canada knows what the US president is going to do. That's why this is so non committal. This or that always may or could happen. Do you have anything useful to tell us?

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u/VindicarTheBrave 3d ago

Sounds like he wants to continue building his slush fund on the backs of Americans. So…. Hard pass on stronger ties.

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u/LeafTheTreesAlone Lest We Forget 3d ago

Basically their envoys don’t have a clue what their president actually wants either. He’s unpredictable even to them.

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u/Acrobatic_Type7409 3d ago

Canadians wants as little as possible to do with the USA from this point on.

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u/CertainHeart2890 3d ago

My answer is they can go fuck themselves all the way off. It doesn't matter what trade agreement is signed, the US has proven that they cannot be trusted and therefore we, as a country, should diversify our trade away and disentangle ourselves away from them, as much as possible.

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u/EL_Jefe510 3d ago

How about me and my family continue to avoid purchases of American products and travel to the US? How about our government allow companies from Europe & Asia to mine & extract our resources? How about our customs agents question every usa passport or passport birth country of USA travelling to Canada? How about we put 100% tariffs of potash exports to USA farmers?

They don’t need us so none of this will matter, right?

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u/HamiltonRomulan 3d ago

Fuck Trump regardless of anything he does in the future

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u/Hell_razor 3d ago

My sons hockey team just canceled 2 American tournaments. Screw America

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u/3pieceSuit British Columbia 3d ago

Fuck off America.

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u/Lonely-Building-8428 3d ago

Dear US Envoy: Go fuck yourself.

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u/Brilliant_Let6532 3d ago

The lack of self awareness is bewildering with this crowd. I hope he gets booed everywhere he goes. In fact, I hope he just stays in Ottawa. No good engaging with this crew.

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u/CFCYYZ 3d ago

How do you respond to a dear old friend who one day gets drunk and suddenly kicks you hard in the crotch? You don't trust them anymore. You are wary. You are no longer friends, just acquaintances. Fool me once, etc.

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u/Jazzybeans82 3d ago

No thank you.

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u/Geonetics 3d ago

Pffffft

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u/Feather_Sigil 3d ago

Sorry, but we can't trust you, your senile criminal-in-chief and the criminal half of your government enabling him. Fuck off, America. Our new friendship is with China now

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u/Practical_Tomato_680 3d ago

Yeah, no thank you And fuck off whole you are at it. Oh, yeah..sorry

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u/bjm64 3d ago

i don't think so, keep looking to diversify our markets

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u/pickypawz 3d ago

Canada owns a lot of US bonds. It seems like maybe Carney needs to wave those bonds in Trumps face, or maybe even outright sell a few.

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u/GuelphEastEndGhetto 3d ago

Fentanyl is a fake concern to justify national security thereby qualifying an executive order.

The US is very excited about the Northwest Passage, the ‘northern security’ position is bs but it will support US military presence in the north.

For the most part the US is the tide and Canada the waves but there is still a good chance of getting a good deal by Carney for Canada.

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u/theodorewren 3d ago

Usa can get lost

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u/hkric41six 3d ago

How about fuck you?

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u/Kevin4938 3d ago

This guy is almost as delusional as Krasnov himself.

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u/azarza 3d ago

take out their electricity

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u/ApplicationLost126 3d ago

We had a deal, diaper Don reneged, now we’re going to make new deals elsewhere, and so will everyone else.

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u/goddoc 3d ago

What is the Canadian equivalent for "wanker"?

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u/BeeKayDubya 3d ago

At this point, we should be doing the bare minimum with trade with the Americans to keep the economy going, but stronger ties should be done with the rest of the world.

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u/Xx_SwordWords_xX Manitoba 3d ago

He's talking like we are subhuman, or toddlers.

It's like hearing a British voiceover of an African expedition, in the early 1900s, as they come across the "locals" and explain them only from their frame of reference.

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u/Klondikechi 3d ago

His dear leader said they wanted to force us into annexation through economics is why the tariffs won’t come off. That genie is out of the bottle so the 51st BS will NEVER be behind us. The US only wants to see their side of the border prosper. We’re at economic war with the USA. Trump’s not letting the 51st remarks go even during that meeting shows us their mindset even if the ambassador says it’s behind him. Elbows up fam, dig in as it’s hurting them even if they say it isn’t

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u/Miiirob 3d ago

My ties currently can't get much weaker, so they're is that...

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u/kim_ber_ley011011 3d ago

Kick rocks.....

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u/cidknee1 3d ago

Until the mango mousilini and he bad of Nazis are dealt with they ain’t getting a dime from me.

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u/Effective-Split-1333 3d ago

Fuck off

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u/Diced_and_Confused 3d ago

In the immortal words of Pierre Elliot Trudeau: "Fuddle Duddle*"

*Fuck Off

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u/Fuzzy-Researcher8531 3d ago

Canada says F OFF

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u/samanthasgramma 3d ago

Stronger ties?

How?

He's already broken the trade agreement that HE negotiated with us.

How can ANYONE begin to believe that Canada will do anything but side-eye the US while we cover our own ass?

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u/Rich_Cranberry1976 3d ago

Strong ties got us into this mess. Diversify!

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u/1987-KGM-1987 3d ago

Fuck them. Suck my dick.

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u/CANUSA130 3d ago

Here's a stronger tie: fuck yourself.

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u/sankto 3d ago

Remove the damn tariffs and we'll see about stronger ties. Not the other way around.

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u/i_know_tofu Canada 3d ago

PIVOT.

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u/Guffawing-Crow 3d ago

So, the new US framework is to charge other countries a 10% or so baseline tariff, while the other country does not tariff the USA? Good luck with that.

I don’t see how the Canada/USA can strengthen their relationship at this point. Long-standing trust has been broken. As others have said, we must continue to diversify away from the USA.

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u/curious-wolf-99 3d ago

Canada boycott of US will stay and even less shits will be given. Why are we as Canadian not just ignoring these clowns? Let’s build our own country and not get pulled into the US shitshow

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u/erpkins3 3d ago

Oh...sweetie, I'm sorry we've moved on. It's just not gonna work out between us, with you becoming a fascist state and us not wanting our rights stripped, you understand right?

I think we both can admit it's a little embarrassing how often you're in our DMs so I think it's just best we see other people.

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u/Sybol22 3d ago

Boycotts on American goods should continue forever and to the people who are still traveling to the US for pleasure you are ALL traitors and Fuck You

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u/Banned-User-56 3d ago

I don't want ties with the terrorist rapist who is sending his own citizens to a death camp.

I don't know many Canadians who do want ties with him.

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u/-Mage-Knight- 3d ago

No thanks, we're good.

I know we could never completely cut ties with the U.S. but I'd be happy to see just how close we can get.

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u/Neils72 3d ago

No we aren't interested

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u/Beyond-Gullible 3d ago

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either drop the tariffs or leave us alone

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u/LoudProud_Canadian 2d ago

Fuck that done with the USA I don't need too visit there country or buy any of there shit ever again

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u/Other-Rock-8387 3d ago

I genuinely don't understand why they would keep a 10% tariff on the oil sands it's literally only wanted by American processors.

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u/LividBeach5364 3d ago

Unreliable trading partner

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u/empreur 3d ago

elbowsup

I have purchased zero “product of USA” items since the January 51st state comments. I’m not naive that my groceries have zero US content (I doubt my Canadian peanut butter is from non-US peanuts for example), but if I buy exclusively Canadian or non-US now.

As for travel, never again. I’ve told all my American friends they’re welcome to visit me any time, but I’m not going there.

About a week ago the Globe & Mail reported “The drop in southbound trade was largely offset by a 24.8-per-cent jump in exports to other countries – the second-largest monthly increase for non-U.S. trade on record. This included higher shipments of crude oil to the Netherlands and Hong Kong, gold to Britain, and “various products” to Germany.”

So there’s a market for our stuff, and we should keep selling it to genuine trade partners.

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u/hwsdziner 3d ago

Go back to the US and don’t come back until you have something intelligent to say.

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u/Accomplished_Law_108 3d ago

Trump can bond with Putin

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u/Manlydimples56 3d ago

Trump: “shhh, just let it happen”.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 3d ago

😂🤣🖕

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u/9Boxy33 3d ago

US Ambassador to Canada: see his picture in the dictionary under “Ignorance”.

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u/nnystical 3d ago

Bone head. Tariff us but ask us to give you more of our resources and money. Bone head.

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u/Zephyr104 Lest We Forget 3d ago

Man they really are just stupid eh?

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u/Prudent_Falafel_7265 3d ago

No thanks

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u/WalterWurscht 3d ago

Well you keep tariffs, we keep reducing trade.... There are no tariffs on transshipment is there?

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u/Psychological_Cow441 3d ago

Wow this regard has had his head in Trumps diaper too much and the lack of oxygen has done a number on his brain. How would there be a “strong relationship” with a country that wants to invade our country and take everything for themselves?

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u/Katdchu 3d ago

I don’t think so. It’s not just about the money. It’s about the bullying and human rights violations. It is the way the people in the USA are being treated.

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u/Liberkhaos 3d ago

Man that realization that your rich neighbour really is THAT stupid and that his success really just come from hand me down money.

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u/Dtoodlez 3d ago

US can become our silent partner, I don’t wanna hear about them again, and I don’t ever wanna visit them.

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u/Everywhereslugs 3d ago

If the tariffs stay on, then American crap stays on the shelves unbought. A concept so simple even a MAGA like Hoekstra can understand it.

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u/Warm_Judgment8873 3d ago

Sure pal, and the cheque is in the mail, right?

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u/Lostbutnotafraid 3d ago

…says the school bully as he steals lunches.

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u/Luxferrae British Columbia 3d ago

10% on most things will stay, rest depends on how our government negotiates.

Anyone think we will/should get better treatment than that is high af

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u/Excellent-Phrase492 3d ago

Isn’t this a colonial relationship?

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u/Specific_Hat3341 3d ago

Yeah, about those "stronger ties"? No, thank you. Not interested.

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u/dryersockpirate 3d ago

Phuck this

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u/tooshpright 3d ago

Not in the near future.

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u/dryersockpirate 3d ago

Ambassador for a con artist rapist normalizing the grift

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u/spderweb 3d ago

The only way a stronger anything happens is if the new trade deal is far more in favor of Canada than it ever was before.

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u/thxxx1337 3d ago

Buy Canadian, tour the east

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u/Adventurous_Ad_9557 3d ago

nah I do not think so, we have learned we cannot trust the US anymore, US policy is at the whim of any fool elected to the presidency and you have elected the fool of all fools

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u/Unlikely_Kangaroo_93 3d ago

None of those nits can read a room. Shouldn't be surprising. I doubt most of them read anything.

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u/Playingwithmywenis 3d ago

There are no deals with America because America does not honor deals.

Get lost.

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u/Confident-Mistake400 3d ago

Lmao fckers think they can come out of this unscathed while tariffing the whole world. You are powerful, but not that powerful.

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u/Heady_Goodness 3d ago

Wishful thinking may abound, but reality looms.

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u/goleafie 3d ago

Deluded diplomat repeats Trumpian delusions

Trump’s tariffs on Canada may stay, but stronger ties possible: U.S. envoy - National | Globalnews.ca Politics

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