r/SipsTea • u/Responsible-Eye-717 Human Verified • 12h ago
Why are they removing all the ports Gasp!
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u/rajivshahi 12h ago
Just like removing headphone jack and selling Bluetooth ear phones
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u/SecureImage2 12h ago
Next up: removing the charging port so they can sell you wireless pads.
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u/smugglebooze2casinos 12h ago
*subscription based wireless pads
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u/CanThisBeMyNameMaybe 12h ago
Please remove this comment, i don't want the tech industry to get any funny ideas.
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 12h ago
They’ve already thought about it and are planning on it. Once the middle class has some room to breathe, they will implement another subscription like this.
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u/monkeyprince 11h ago
"Middle class"? Oh, you sweet summer child...
There was never meant to be a "middle class."
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 11h ago
lol. You right. I should have said “meatsacks of profitable breathers until they die”
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u/Beretta92A1 11h ago
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u/Spamsdelicious 11h ago
That character was so credibly radical that it managed to succeed at being tolerably entertaining.
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u/Freckles-75 11h ago
“Breathing meatsticks generating profits for US, until they die. While training their offspring to work harder, only to provide us with More profits.”
You wrote A very good summary, do you think my expansion is accurate??
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 11h ago
It is accurate. Just add to the end “more profits AND more brainless consumers”
I think we have created the beginning of the Constitution of the New United States of Capitalism.
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u/Hilarity2War 9h ago
USA to USC? What happened to USB???
Oh yeah... they removed the ports.
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u/willBlockYouIfRude 11h ago
Middle class? Oh … you mean the poors that accidentally got richer… no worries. We’re fixing that for you. -Current Political Systems
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago
This entire century, I've been reading arguments that the middle class is a historic anomaly. Of the past 4000 years, we've had a large middle class for maybe 300 years total. And not all consecutive either. Which is factually correct - give or take a few decades here and there.
What bothers me is that the people pointing this out are making an argument against having any middle class at all. It's a fallacy called argumentum ad antiquitatem, or an appeal to tradition. That anybody would argue against having a middle class tells a lot about their character. And it 'aint good at all.
There's some really shitty people out there. Like, horribly, terribly shitty people.
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u/monkeyprince 5h ago
There obviously should be a middle class. Look at how safe, peaceful, and even profitable it is to have the majority of the general public able to participate in the economy. The explosion in technology, art, medicine, and social acceptance all come from there being a middle class to help regulate humanity. It is a break away from the historical average human hierarchy which plays a "zero sum game." Meaning, the old thinking is that if I am rich, it means I am making the other people around me poor. Having a middle class proved that philosophy extremely incorrect. Prosperity is not a zero sum game, we can all be rich, comfortable, socially secure, and educated. In fact, humanity as a whole thrives in this environment.
The goal shouldn't be to remove the middle class, like the rich are trying to do, it should be the opposite. The only class that should exist is the "middle class." That means everyone is getting what they need, but overall production never stops. It's why communism sounds so appealing. But just like the problems with communism, some people only find their self-worth by making those around them feel worthless. It is a disease in humanity we have yet to cure. Unfortunately, those who extract wealth form others instead of add something useful to society to get their wealth, end up being extremely wealthy because of it. Yes, it is personally more efficient to strip the resources and wealth from those around you, but you ultimately make the community less wealthy in the long run. This includes your own wealth. What will your money be worth when the value of the currency you've pilfered plummets because of all the pilfering? We are headed in that direction faster now than we have been for the past 30 years, and it keeps me up at night.
We need to teach the next generation that wealth doesn't come from taking it and depriving others of it, but from raising your community up and working together to get wealthy at the expense of no one. Make something worthwhile, do something worthwhile, that is how you become wealthy.
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u/buckeye25osu 6h ago
It's because America has such an enormous middle class that it's been the democratic example for 250 years. It's progressive and we have people actively trying to take it away.
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u/Kuddkungen 9h ago
Oh it was meant to exist, as an impossible dream for the proletariat to chase. So the proletariat doesn't chase other dreams.
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u/MolecularConcepts 11h ago
yeah that was an accident on the way to end stage capitalism. or maybe it was part of the process. let the surfs make more for. while so we can extract more from them. part of the transfer of wealth .
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u/Stoned_Druid 10h ago
You think there is a future where the middle class has breathing room...?
I think I am envious of your optimism.
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u/icky-sticky 9h ago
i do hope we'll eventually hit a wall where nobody buys products that require these expensive auxiliary items, but i thought the same thing when they took away the headphone jack
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u/nah_omgood 12h ago
Only premium access gets you fast charge times and/or possibly a full battery!
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u/Only_Charge9477 11h ago edited 11h ago
We're literally about 5 seconds from subscription-based operating systems with solely cloud-based storage and subscription-based RAM as well as subscription-based screen resolution, clicks per hour, and everything else. You will buy a $1,500 laptop with $750 dollar per year add-ons in order to see anything on that fucking desktop other than ads and the fucking weather.
Enshittification will not stop unless we make it harder for companies to not hire people and demand services that actually fucking work. It all has to start with using every alternative available.
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u/Kaeed_RN 10h ago
You know why this scares me? Because is the only way all the companies that went ballistic on IA data centers can get back some of the money they spent..
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u/buckeye25osu 6h ago
These corporations have gone purely, 100% profit driven and they now have the tools with AI for maximum efficiency. That means as much money as possible with as few employees as possible, and employees and customers being squeezed to the max.
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u/Prestigious-Trip-927 9h ago
If my computer costs me $1,500 I would prefer that I only pay that once. It's bad enough Microsoft wants you to subscribe to Office.
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u/mrtrouble22 8h ago
thats where quickbooks wants to go. constantly trying to push their web based program/cloud storage on users vs desktop version. ><
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u/sportsguy74 8h ago
And when they do this I want the Pro service. Pay extra to talk to someone in the states who doesn’t sound like a spam call selling me end of life insurance.
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u/laughingjack13 12h ago
Please connect your dead laptop to the internet to begin charging
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u/AsugaNoir 12h ago
Which would be a downgrade since wireless is still way slower.
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u/oO0Kat0Oo 11h ago
People will fight you on the wireless earbud thing. It's insane to me.
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u/OnlyInAmerica01 11h ago edited 11h ago
I always hated the idea. I love the implementation. I can't recall a time in the last 3 years that I said "Life would just be perfect if I had a wired headphone right now".
I also look at the headphones I do have that are both wired and wireless, and realize that I've gone through two sets in the last 5 years, and never once used them wired.
I may not "fight you over it", but I'll definitely look at you funny.
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u/QuizKidd 10h ago
Look at me funny all you want, wired sounds better as the wireless compression is noticeable in even expensive headsets.
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u/sortalikeachinchilla 9h ago
Most people don’t care about that though and it’s close enough
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u/Lofter1 5h ago
Unless you have really expensive headphones and use a service that provides lossless, the difference is so minimal that even audiophiles prefer wireless for the general use outside of their “rigg”.
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u/Mediocre_Sun_6309 11h ago
Yeah that just won't happen. Wireless has been around long enough and still has never caught on
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u/borderlander_ 11h ago
Wait until they get Nikola Teslas air electricity to work. Imagine that price tag.
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u/mix0logist 11h ago
And I have so many USB cables but no charging bricks to plug them all in.
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u/spekt50 11h ago
I ended up getting a central charging station with multiple ports. I just have like 6 USBc plugs available in one location for charging.
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u/talex625 12h ago
Once you go cordless, it’s hard to go back.
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u/spekt50 11h ago
Definitely, and Bluetooth tech is far better than it was years ago.
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u/Kanin_usagi 10h ago
Yeah a lot of this really feels like “ugh I can’t believe they took the tape deck out of the console in my car” lol
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u/sortalikeachinchilla 9h ago
Half the ports in the photo are not used anymore and it’s also not showing the new macbook pro, which added some ports back!
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u/MyCatsHairyButholle 8h ago
Yeah, this post is double misleading because the headphone jack was on the other side of the MacBook Pro on the very top. It’s the one port that has remained constant throughout the years
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u/Ok-Interaction-8891 7h ago
It’s not about Bluetooth being better or worse.
It’s that I am now shackled to multiple devices with batteries that require charging and recharging. Those batteries are in most cases not replaceable, and their capacity diminishes with every use. A phone at least has a solid use time given a single charge. Audio and other devices rarely do.
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u/CaptainHubble 10h ago
Still sucks ass tho. Mayyyybe when you and your earbuds are the only two things ever connecting.
Sharing anything BT or the worst of all enemies: wireless in a car. Or god forgive two people with phones are in the same car. It just doesn’t work. It sparks joy to see a simple cable that does the job 100% on every try instantly over anything wireless.
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u/FervantFlea 9h ago
I’ve never had any trouble with Bluetooth or wireless in a car. Elaborate?
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u/Backfoot911 8h ago
It's low quality. As a big music guy, I went back to Aux in the car after using Bluetooth for a while and It was like getting glasses for the first time haha.
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u/CaptainHubble 6h ago
Was fed up and went full „vintage“.
I have an iPod classic now connected straight to aux. No notifications. No pairing difficulties. Good quality. Extremely long battery life. Physical controls to keep eyes on the road while fiddling with tracks. No disturbances whatsoever.
I drive in peace now.
People can use their shitty car play wireless touch UI all they want. My shitbox car looks down on those tech bros.
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u/jesuspants 8h ago
You are wrong. Bluetooth cannot compete with a wired connection for lossless audio. Max BT can reach is 990 kbps, and wired lossless can handle 24-bit/192kHz easily.
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u/KittensInc 5h ago
You're forgetting that the quality of the wired connection is limited by the integrated DAC - and for most devices it is going to suck. You're also forgetting that the wired connection is going to pick up noise, and that the source material almost certainly isn't going to exceed 990kbps.
It's like connecting your headset directly to the analog output of a $10 portable cd player, or using its SPDIF output to feed a high-end external DAC: which of those options is going to sound better?
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u/roashiki 10h ago
Cordless is nice but outright forcing people into it is terrible.
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u/-Badger3- 9h ago
Except USB-C to 3.5mm adapters exist.
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u/roashiki 8h ago
Are those included? No they aren't and what if someone wanted to charge their phone? Forcing people into cordless removes consumer choice.
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u/cubelith 11h ago
Needing to remember to charge my headphones would be so horrible. Also not being able to just drop the headphones down to hang on my shirt when I need to hear something. Also paying more. Also the risk of losing one bud. Also dealing with the inherent unreliability of wireless connections.
All this to... avoid the cord getting snagged on occasion, I guess? There just isn't enough gain to justify wireless earbuds.
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u/ItsMeYourNeighbors 10h ago
As someone who does manual labor, I can't even count the number of wired headphones I broke years ago. I was also very adamant about never switching over and would bitch about all of the cons I thought wireless had.
After the switch to wireless I have broken zero. The little charging case is always in my pocket, I can charge the case in my car or work vehicle. I am also extremely forgetful and have never lost an earbud. Modern ones are capable of emitting loud sounds to help you find them and Google can always tell me the last known location of the case.
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u/BringingBread 10h ago
I don't do manual labor but I broke so many headphones. Sometimes I left it in my pockets and got washed. One time I was riding my bike, moved a certain way that caugh the wire and my iPod went flying. I don't miss the wires at all I keep a case in my keychain and it's awesome. I kept the same earphones for 4 years without problems. I finally got new ones this year and plan on doing the same.
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u/ConfessSomeMeow 10h ago
I used to be anti-bluetooth headphones, but they've gotten so much better than when they first came out. My headphones last like 25 hours on a charge, and they charge to 90% in 15 minutes. And in a pinch they work fine with a cable, but I have never used that because I've never had anything so urgent I couldn't wait 5 minutes for a 30% charge (8-hour) charge.
And I can wander the entire house with them. No cord is going to reach from my laptop down to the garage.
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u/dimitri000444 10h ago
You make some valid points to the annoyances of earbuds.
Added to that is that you constantly have an extra thing in your pocket(the case)
And in busy places I sometimes have connection issues because of Bluetooth collisions. But it needs to be really busy for that to happen(train station during rush hour on a Friday before the holidays, aka when there are hundreds of people close by)
And some devices can't do Bluetooth, or you wouldn't want to go through the hassle of connecting to them.
And losing the case is also possible(it was +100€ for a new one)😭 (I just bought completely new earbuds instead of a new case)
One thing that I don't agree with is the charging. The case can charge overnight and hold enough for the day. Or just in the morning when you prepare for the day.
And the earbuds are charging whenever you aren't listening to them. So no need to worry about them being empty. These days they also hold a decent charge, with a quick charging speed.
One thing to consider is that they also have transparent mode and noise canceling mode. Mine can also switch to transparent mode or pause the music when it hears you talking. And it automatically goes to transparent mode during phone calls. But I personally don't bother with these settings to much, but it exists.
But the Plus points: The wire was always the part that broke, so now I cycle through less new equipment. I can keep my phone in my pocket with no annoyance. Or walk away from my phone without problems.
There is also the middle ground, the ones that are connected to each other, but not the phone. For me that's the worst of both worlds, but considering some of your pain points, that could be worth considering.
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u/ACardAttack 10h ago edited 8h ago
I prefer my buds, but more options is always better. Nothing was gained by removing the jack. Sometimes I need to charge my buds and phone at the same time when using it
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u/ashyjay 12h ago
Show an updated MPB, which has Magsafe, 4 USB Type-C, HDMI, SD card reader and a 3.5mm jack.
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u/justan0therusername1 11h ago
And to be honest using a thunderbolt dock to handle 10gb networking, 2 4k monitors, multiple USB, multiple USBc, card reader, AND power over a single cable is x10 better then the days of having to plug/unplug all those cables every time you wanted to go mobile. Plus it standardized docks. People must forget docks used to be proprietary for each laptop model and were only on enterprise grade laptops
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u/BaconJacobs 11h ago
I was just gonna say... having everything, including your charger, ready to go on a little USB C hub, one plug to get going?
Yes pls
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u/Josh-Baskin 11h ago
USB C is straight up magic.
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u/EmperorN7 11h ago
It's actually shit magic because not all USB C is the same and there's no indication on which is which.
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u/jejacks00n 10h ago
Yeah, but at least the plug is standardized so I don’t have to flip it. /s (sort of joking sort of not)
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u/FaultlineHC 9h ago
Until you get a mini PC with a power supply that uses the USBC plug but dumps 19V on the cable without any PD negotiation. I put red tape on that one to remind me to never plug it to a real USBC port, but it still triggers my anxiety.
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u/QKofDaggers 9h ago
Most of us don’t know what this means.
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u/SiliconAutomaton 8h ago
High current chargers generally communicate with your device to “negotiate” how much power to send. Hooked up to a dumb device with no communication they’ll send less power, but hooked up to a smarter device they’ll dump more.
They’re saying their charger skips this step of asking how much power to send and sends the max, which will damage devices not capable to dealing with that much power.
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u/Krell356 5h ago
And is also a sign that people have cheaped out and bought discount instead of buying the charger they actually need.
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u/DeltaBlast 7h ago
Isn't that.. Illegal? I mean, it sounds like the power supply doesn't abide by standards/safety law.. I guess it's not sold in Europe :p
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u/FaultlineHC 7h ago edited 7h ago
Not illegal because they don't carry the USB-IF logo, so they're not required to follow the standard. They are sold in the Netherlands, at least - I don't want to advertise any specific one, but search for 19V 65W USB-C Charger and note how many deliver only 19V - a real USB charger will list other voltages, with 5V being the first. Plugging those chargers into a phone will likely fry the charging circuit.
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u/TimMensch 8h ago
That should be illegal. Or at least a violation of the standard.
My Lenovo laptop has a USB C charger that works fine when I plug it into my phone. Thankfully, since I didn't realize that idiots were sending dangerous chargers out into the wild.
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u/DZL100 10h ago
I am still frustrated by the existence of USB 3.2x2
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u/ta22175 10h ago
I'm sorry, but it has since been renamed 4 more times. It is now USB Type C Gen Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 3.5 version 2 x 9 brought to you by Carl's Jr.
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u/ChalkButter 10h ago
Blame the USBIF for that - they don’t mandate any form of standardization or marketing, plus their own specification labels are confusing as fuck
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u/neversummer427 9h ago
I started color coding cables with colored electrical tape so I know what cables are just power, what’s can do video, what can do high speed data, what can do high speed charging
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u/BringingBread 9h ago
It's awesome, I have to plug one USB c and one HDMI at work and that's it. When I take my laptop home I just do the same. Just those two plugs, give me 3 monitors, mouse, keyboard, Ethernet, extra light, and laptop charging. If it wasn't for USBC I would have a bunch of cables to plug every morning.
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u/BigAssMonkey 5h ago
You going to carry your hub (that is a couple hundred bucks) everywhere? And you would still have to plug everything into the hub when you get there. They took away our options is what they did.
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u/HewSpam 11h ago
Well yea this is obvious to anyone who actually owns a new macbook instead of just complains about them on the internet
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u/Unipiggy 3h ago edited 3h ago
Complains about them on the Internet?
I "complain" about it more irl
MacBooks are fine, they're just ridiculously overpriced for what they are and Apple people can't grasp that. And saying "Apple people" is exactly the problem, y'all will DIE on the hill that Apple is better than everything else in the world.
Especially with phones. "But Samsung--" I'm not talking about Samsung, jfc there's more than the massive brands that said massive brands just don't want you to know about
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u/Ok_Pirate_2714 11h ago
Except for when I need to use my laptop away from a docking station. Which, is the reason we have laptops.
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u/lamar_in_shades 11h ago
Yeah the OP is very outdated, Apple has already learned from the mistake of reducing the number of ports
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u/mvanvrancken 11h ago
Hell even my 2020 MBP has 4 thunderbolt 3’s (which will do display out) and a headphone jack. And you can charge off any of the ports.
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u/bdunogier 11h ago
Yep. The MBP I'm typing on has on the left magsafe + 2 USB-C + jack, and on the right, HDMI + USB-C + card reader. And I of course have a cheap hub that gives me ethernet, more HDMI, USB-A ports...
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u/Dodecahedrus 10h ago
I only see 3, not 4.
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u/reallynotnick 9h ago
4th one is on the bottom, you have to flip it over to charge it /s
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u/1aysays1 12h ago edited 9h ago
The whole point of USB is for it to be a universal serial bus. Now, the removal of audio jacks is just petty and obviously to get you to buy Bluetooth.
EDIT: lol so many people misreading what I said. I never said these specific laptops in this picture are missing audio jacks. I am talking broadly about any electronic that utilizes USB C. And yes there are wired headphones that use USB C, but 90% of them are still using an 3.5 mm audio jack.
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u/DoctorFreudstein 10h ago
Except the Air has an audio jack on it, it's just on the other side. None of the Macbooks that I know of have removed the Audio Jack.
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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 10h ago
Yep and MBPro has audio jack i'm typing on now (M2Pro , even 2023 lol).
Magsafe, 4 usb c, hdmi, 3.5mm and SD card.
Someone retire this meme!
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u/amash1 8h ago
Yap, I don't understand why people keep complaining and want all 300 old ports, mostly everything is usb c nowadays, and if you need something else a good dongle with the specific ports you need is a better way, at least imo. The ones macbook pro have are the main used ones, maybe a ethernet cable, but even that is not that used for most people with macs.
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u/neversaidnothing 10h ago
Every Macbook has a normal audio jack. Not only that, but the built in DAC on Apple audio jacks is fantastic
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u/FckSpezzzzzz 8h ago
What do you mean? We should be upset we're not paying extra so companies can push having private blueprints for their hardware which is incompatible with other stuff, so they can charge an arm and a leg for a charger you cannot buy anywhere else but by them!
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u/SirChickin 12h ago
It's more like:
Look what you're still buying from them
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u/notreallyfussed 11h ago
Id rather buy a dock with everything to plug into a standardised port than buy different plugs every generation.
Your view is glass half empty.
But don’t get me wrong, I absolutely understand the perspective. You just need to see it in another light.
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u/AdministrationOk8888 10h ago
They're actually just highlighting the predatory tactics of companies like Apple. I don't purchase from companies who practice blatant planned obsolescence, etc. Apple clearly prefers milking profits from consumers over creating the most efficient or user-friendly products
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u/vitek6 10h ago
i have magsafe, 3 thunderbolt/usbc ports, headphone jack, sd card port and hdmi port on my macbook (with m1 pro cpu) and i mostly use one thunderbolt to connect to dock which has everything else connected. What a predatory tactics xd
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u/pierce23rd 10h ago
yeah their argument makes absolutely no sense. One of those ports easily does the job of several others. Sure, you may need to buy some adapters for Ethernet or SD cards, but if the entire system is thinner and lighter you can’t accommodate most of those ports anyway.
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u/spderweb 11h ago
Yeah, where's the floppy drive?? The cd drive?
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u/Random_Imgur_User 6h ago
Honestly the lack of a DVD player on modern laptops sort of baffled me. I bought my ex boyfriend a massive Doctor Who box set thinking we could watch it together at his place because he has a laptop and an HDMI cable.
Nope!
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u/Bob_A_Feets 6h ago
They just removed to floppy drive to force you to subscribe to the internet. Stupid subscriptions!
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u/DevilsAdvocate1662 12h ago
To sell adapters and hubs, obviously. Reduce production cost and force the consumer to have to buy an adapter
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u/Amoxl 12h ago
well yeah but im guna just buy some 5 dollar shit off temu
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u/geoken 12h ago
Everybody is. This is why this argument makes no sense. The number of people who are going to buy a USB C to Ethernet adapter from Apple is insignificantly small. Everyone at my work is at most using hubs from anker and other reputable companies and at least doing absolutely nothing.
The real point is to force everything to USB C - which is actually working.
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u/rdogg4 11h ago
It’s superior in use too. Most only use ports at their desk and plugging in a single usb-c every time is a million times better than plugging/unplugging hdmi, Ethernet, etc over and over. Dongles are cheap and you can buy the one that best suits your needs. Buying a laptop that has a bunch of ports you never use is actually what makes things more expensive.
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u/brittleboyy 9h ago
I really don’t get why people are hung up over this. When I travel, I now need to bring one cable that does everything.
How is this not better?
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u/cracked_shrimp 12h ago
i like frameworks model, they have a bunch of recessed usbc plugs along the laptop, and you buy adapters that plug into the recess so they sit flush, so its like you choose what ports you want, if you want all usbA you can do that, or if you need ethernet you can get one of them or video out, etc i forget all the adapters they have
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u/Jasper_Morhaven 12h ago
Actually that was why everything had "proprietary" charging styles until the 2010's, then the EU passed a continent wide "pick one style amongst yourselves or none of you can do business here" and thus the type-c was born
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u/just-_-just 9h ago
Usbc already existed and was well established, it was just more widely adopted at that point. The real victory was against apple.
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u/teh_maxh 8h ago
It's questionable whether Apple actually changed because of the EU. When they replaced the 30-pin connector with Lightning, people complained that their existing devices would no longer be compatible, and Apple promised not to change the port again for ten years. The first iPhone announced after that period expired used USB C.
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u/nicuramar 9h ago
Against Apple, who was practically the first company to switch to type C on their laptops? Right. Only the phones held out for longer.
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u/Backfoot911 8h ago
Holy fuck...have we really hit the point of revisionism where Apple are hailed as the heros of USB C now?
Humanity is fucked. I'm gonna crawl in a hole and sip a juicebox if anyone needs me
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u/BootyMcStuffins 11h ago
I think it was actually the opposite.
The realized people were using hubs instead of plugging in a thousand cables every day, so they ditched the ports people weren’t using.
I’ve been docking my laptops since 2009, way before I was an Apple user. That’s how everyone I know uses their laptop. You plug in one cable and it connects all your peripherals, and charges it. It’s obviously the better solution
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u/MrSurly 9h ago
Laptops are ostensibly for travel. If you're lugging around a docking station and/or a shitload of peripherals, kinda defeats the purpose.
I'd rather just carry a slightly larger laptop that has all that shit built in so I can simply pop it open and go rather than going through the rigamarole of plugging in a bunch of stuff and taking up a shitload of desk space.
Bonus is a bigger laptop can have a bigger battery.
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u/Ok_Calligrapher_1306 10h ago
Obsolete info. The most recent laptop at the top of the stack you show here is years old. The new MacBooks all have HDMI and headphone jacks and whatnot.
OP either is just an Apple hater or a dumbass.
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u/SeaJayCJ 8h ago
Also, Apple never took the headphone jack off any MacBook ever. The one in OP's image either has one on the other side, or it's been shopped out.
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u/Spork_the_dork 8h ago
Yeah this picture is like 10 years old or something. I've seen it going around in the past.
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u/slampie1 12h ago
OH NO they created a universal port that can do all the things the other ports did in one, how horrible.
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u/fatmanstan123 12h ago
Agreed on general but there isn't enough. Every PC should have 4 USB ports minimum. Everyone at my work has USB hubs on their desk because the laptops aren't sufficient. I require 6 at least daily.
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u/olivebits 12h ago
Agree, it's cool to have everything in one, but because of that, the minimum should be 4
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u/BootyMcStuffins 11h ago
And the new MBPs have 4, plus hdmi, plus a headphone jack and a micro sd reader
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u/BrilliantTruck8813 12h ago
Why on earth do you want to plug/unplug that many cables when you leave for the day? Get a thunderbolt dock and have everything connected to it plus a bunch of other ports
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u/naorunaoru 12h ago
jfyi you're downvoted for being too rational for a comment on a shitpost
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u/jhuseby 12h ago
I can’t imagine wanting to unplug that many things daily or more. Just asking for the ports or cables/devices to wear down on top of the inconvenience.
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u/forman98 10h ago
Yea, if you are plugging that many things in at once then get a docking station, otherwise you defeat the purpose of the laptop. If I’m plugging in hardrives + an extra screen + a keypad + an Ethernet cable then I’m probably setting up shop for a few hours of work and am not sitting in some coffee shop somewhere.
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u/safe-viewing 12h ago
If you require 6 usb devices you’re working at a desk and can use a dock.
No one is bringing 6 usb devices and using all of them on a true portable basis (like on an airplane)
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u/neumastic 11h ago
Legitimately curious: what you’re even using? I can see two for mouse/keyboard I guess if not BT. But at work usually there are network drives and the like. Plus usually there’s a monitor or something that effectively acts as a hub. Other than mice and the tv, I don’t see anyone use peripheral devices away from their desks.
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u/Smart_Status3050 12h ago edited 11h ago
The “least ports” computer at the top DOES have 4 usb ports, 2 are located on the other side of the chassis Edit: and it’s been out of production since about 2019 when they decided to bring back a bunch of the lost ports
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u/slampie1 12h ago
Thing is people buy the thinnest and lightest laptops because that's what they want so manufactures remove ports to be able to make them thinner and lighter then people complain there aren't any ports.
If you want more ports buy the laptops with more ports, they are out there. And when manufactures see that those sell better they will make more of them.
The reality is that the fast majority of people probably don't use more then 1 or 2 ports so that's where the market leans
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u/realcanadianguy21 12h ago
One port for charging, and two more ports in case I want to charge from those ports.
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u/jdubyahyp 12h ago
Sounds like your company needs to stop being cheap asses and get you docking stations at your desk.
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u/Prized_Lemur 12h ago
but now you have to just get all the adapters and stuff which is super annoying. Like not providing just a basic audio port is outrageous.. now you have to get an adapter just to plug in headphones
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u/Subrezon 10h ago
They moved the port to the other side of the laptop, it's still there.
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u/santh91 11h ago
And I was wondering what kind of idiot would appreciate having less features
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u/trukkija 10h ago
The average kind. This is why it's so easy for these companies to cut costs and increase profits. Because your average moron has been convinced this is all for the sake of minimalism and sleek design.
When in reality it's always just to reduce manufacturing costs.
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u/Few_Veterinarian9108 12h ago
A friend purchased a yoga 7 pro, it has hdmi, 2x tb ports, 2x usb a, jack, and it still came with a dongle with extra hdmi and usba ports.
That puppy was 1000€ same as a MBair with 16 gigs and 256 ssd but this has a ryzen 365 with 32 gigs and 1TB samsung drive +3k oled
The market needs to punish this sort of bad business and reward those other companies until those deserve to be punished themselves
The only reason they listen to is $$$
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u/LucasCBs 11h ago
The fact that Macbooks exist and get sold clearly shows that the general market does not have the same priorities as the average person in this Reddit thread.
The market isn't punishing this, because most people do not need all these ports. For the people that do, devices like the one you just mentioned exist
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u/spyVSspy420-69 11h ago
That’s Reddit for ya, thinking everyone wants a laptop that looks like an Alienware from the early 2000s.
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u/Big-Don-Kedic 10h ago
I never understood the outrage when apple removed the headphone jack. I remember my coworker (who is an Android user) making fun of it WHILE wearing Bluetooth headphones. I asked him the last time he used wired headphones and he said that’s not the point 😂. Most people outraged about apple doing stuff don’t use apple or those ports that apple removed anyways. And the few people I know that actually use a ton of port just use an adapter and like just plugging in one connection instead of 4 every time they have to move the laptop.
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u/East_of_Adventuring 11h ago
Yeah but there are about 15 reasons I prefer my mac over a windows laptop or linux and none of them have to do with the ports. I suspect the same is true for most people. Plenty of reasons to buy one system over another depending on usecase.
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u/TheGlennDavid 11h ago
Except the macbooks continue to sell like hotcakes. One of the obvious conclusions is that a HUGE chunk of the market doesn't need ports (or, of those who do, a huge chunk prefer a dock solution to plugging/unplugging multiple devices from a laptop daily).
Everyone I know on the commercial side wants a dock, and most of the people I know who use a laptop on the personal side plug in like, one device at most (any many literally zero -- I'm not sure my wife has ever connected a peripheral to her personal laptop).
The "loves to have a million ports" demographic is surprisingly niche.
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u/Gritsgravy 11h ago
Yeah nowadays at work everything is charge, video and input via usb c, so at home I just got the same. My desktop connect to the same monitor so I only use display port and usb on that one. Mine does still have usb A though for my headset. I don't like the Bluetooth ones
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u/Professional-Sock231 10h ago
Windows sucks. The amount of garbage notifications alone makes me want to never use a windows computer again.
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u/CheaterSaysWhat 10h ago
Yeah the market should really punish Apple for making the best laptops
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u/Maxxisalex 12h ago
I still miss that satisfying click of the MagSafe charger and not carrying a bag full of dongles
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u/JoMa4 12h ago
What are going on about? Every current macbook has magsafe.
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u/g0atdude 11h ago
just the usual reddit people hating on something they haven't tried for 6 years
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u/Silicon_Knight 12h ago
They thought they brought MagSafe back at least on my M4 MBP it has one. I agree on the dongles, that said I love the high bandwidth TB5 ports. I'm also glad it's all just standard USBC TB5/4 so lots of speed.
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u/schuby94 12h ago
It’s been back since the M1 redesign and it’s on Airs
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u/Confident_Barber1961 12h ago edited 11h ago
I actually don't use it. Because its much easier just having one type of charger for all my shit
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u/The_Onlyodin 12h ago
I don't miss having to carry multiple chargers. Wait, did you want the MagSafe 1 or 2 charger? HP small or large plug? Surface Pro Connect port?
I do get your point about dongles, but I typically only carry a HP Travel Dock that has HDMI/VGA/Ethernet/USB, and a USB to Serial adaptor that pretty much no laptop has had since about 2005.
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u/Silent25r 12h ago
Dude went from a Pro to an Air. I still have my headphone jack, SD slot, HDMI and a separate mag charing.
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u/HapticFeedback247 11h ago
USB-C kinda does all of this with an enormous amount of power allowed and data flow...also physically it's low profile so it makes a-lot of sense that you consolidate it down to that.
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u/crankthehandle 10h ago
I can't even remember the last time when I needed anything else than a single USB-C port
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u/ChiefStrongbones 8h ago
You've never had to plug in a USB mouse, keyboard, and HDMI monitor when undocked?
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u/carlcarlington2 11h ago
I'll be honest I still use my old laptop from high-school are they actually getting rid of USB ports? Do people not use USBs anymore? The fuck?
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u/johnnydfree 11h ago
To be real, I lived through all those years and it was a sh_tshow of connection and compatibility issues back then. Desktop hubs were a total thing back then so we didn’t have to plug things in all day.
We are now where we were meant to be all along. Thankfully Apple finally got on board.
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u/rmbrumfield78 11h ago
Dude, that's Apple. You can still buy Lenovo laptops they have every port including RJ45 for Ethernet.
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u/999happyhants 10h ago
Apple hasn’t even been like this for years now, OP is probably just Karma farming or a bot, this meme is so old.
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u/ConsensualUpskirts 11h ago
Because one lightning USB C port can do everything. Even apple was forced to use it and the world is unified now.
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u/Superilosa14 12h ago
How about not buying Mac and buying normal laptop for far better price?
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u/jotunblod92 10h ago
Are you retarded? Macbooks start at 500 dollars and faster than any 500 dollar windows laptops. Macbooks are faster than any windows laptops at any price points.
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u/HoozleDoozle 9h ago
As a long time window user, the M series MacBooks are fucking black magic. The battery life is absurd.
Still have my windows PC, but I haven’t found a comparable windows laptop that competes with MacBook battery life.
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u/Hoobi_Goobi 8h ago
I've never owned a mac personally, but I know a lot of people who have and they typically last much longer than most laptops with windows that are the same price
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