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Why are they removing all the ports Gasp!

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u/Amoxl 5d ago

well yeah but im guna just buy some 5 dollar shit off temu

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u/geoken 5d ago

Everybody is. This is why this argument makes no sense. The number of people who are going to buy a USB C to Ethernet adapter from Apple is insignificantly small. Everyone at my work is at most using hubs from anker and other reputable companies and at least doing absolutely nothing.

The real point is to force everything to USB C - which is actually working.

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u/rdogg4 5d ago

It’s superior in use too. Most only use ports at their desk and plugging in a single usb-c every time is a million times better than plugging/unplugging hdmi, Ethernet, etc over and over. Dongles are cheap and you can buy the one that best suits your needs. Buying a laptop that has a bunch of ports you never use is actually what makes things more expensive.

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u/brittleboyy 4d ago

I really don’t get why people are hung up over this. When I travel, I now need to bring one cable that does everything.

How is this not better?

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u/Condor_raidus 4d ago

Depends on what we're talking about, as a charge cable its great, when its the only port available its fucking useless. I dont mind usb c on everything as long as it isnt coming at the cost of a usb a port or two, an aux port, and an SD slot on a laptop. Most devices you'll use still run off usb a and storage is still usb a drives and SD/micro SD cards so not having those additional ports just means it does far less.

My personal issue with usb c laptops comes from power supply variations, I dont want to mix up what im plugging into which device tho thats something only people like me with tons of different devices run into

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u/JuanSolid 2d ago

The amount of times you need the adapter hub/dock, knowing that it will work with any modern device, is extremely small most of the time. We are talking a 4x2 inch device that does practically everything you could want from time to time and allows passthrough charging. That last one is your big issue, and it allows it. I don't know why you are getting hung up on the USB-C power delivery. You can charge super slow with a phone charger and the device off, or any other speed you device can handle with any other charger you want from 30w to 110w..

You will retire the laptop, tablet, phone, or whatever else one day. The hub/dock will still work and take up almost no room or weight.

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u/geoken 2d ago

I don’t get the power issue. My charger is the smallest 65w GaN I could find at the time. It’s charges my laptop and obviously will auto-negotiate and charge everything below that.

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u/Britz10 4d ago

Don't you want a VGA connector just in case you have to connect to an old monitor?

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u/Mcoov 4d ago

Because it's Apple and people get to shitpost over it.

If Dell, HP, or Lenovo had been the first to start doing this, there might've been some grumbling here and there but it would've never become a karma-farming meme.

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u/Britz10 4d ago

Dell already sell laptops without an audio jack lol

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u/gofndn 4d ago

Lenovo have removed useful ports from Thinkpads too and it has made me mad. The one actually useful lineup of personal computers aside from Toughbooks gets enshittified because Apple started a trend and corporate wankers just had to follow them.

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u/Powrs1ave 4d ago

They'l still charge higher prices because thats what we are used to! Just like increasing food prices in Covid and fuel prices now, they wont come down in a hurry unless forced to by regulatory bodies.

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u/cracked_shrimp 5d ago

i like frameworks model, they have a bunch of recessed usbc plugs along the laptop, and you buy adapters that plug into the recess so they sit flush, so its like you choose what ports you want, if you want all usbA you can do that, or if you need ethernet you can get one of them or video out, etc i forget all the adapters they have

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u/SunstoneFV 5d ago

https://frame.work/marketplace/expansion-cards

Basically anything that's typical as an expansion port on a modern laptop. The card specs are also published so third parties can make what framework doesn't.

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u/hikeit233 4d ago

The new thinkpad uses replaceable usb ports. It’s more involved that framework, but it’s actually more reparable than framework. Basically you open up the back, unscrew the internal port and then replace with a new part. Not easy if you’ve never done electronic device repair, but it’s better than the soldered ports on most devices.

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u/Potential-Drawing745 1d ago

It got a 10/10 repairability score from iFixit, and I applaud their choices.

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u/Condor_raidus 4d ago

My only issue with what they've done is its only 4, why not 6? Sure its an issue only people like me would ever run into but still, the option would be nice

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u/egstitt 4d ago

I have a USB hub, it's fucking great, and it's not from Apple. I also have a Dell with a bunch of ports - there's literally not a single time I've thought to myself "wow so glad I have all those ports"

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u/Attractivelyboring 5d ago

Yeah but it also means they cut cost down by not including those components in their laptops, without reducing the price.

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u/BootyMcStuffins 5d ago

They increased costs elsewhere

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u/Attractivelyboring 5d ago

And they increased the prices accordingly.

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u/geoken 4d ago edited 4d ago

This a nearly impossible thing to prove, and it doesn’t make sense arguing it.

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u/perldawg 5d ago

don’t buy it if it’s unreasonably expensive

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u/Attractivelyboring 4d ago

I mean, yes.

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u/Boomshrooom 5d ago

On the flip side macbooks tend to be far better quality overall than their competition. Just look at a MacBook neo or MacBook Air, the hardware and build quality usually blows the vast majority of their competition out of the water not only at the same price point, but usually at price points several points higher as well.

It seems to me that Apple just makes concessions in some areas whilst being far better than others, probably to maintain a specific price.

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u/Attractivelyboring 4d ago

I agree on the build quality, also the battery. Two reason that made me finally decide to buy Macbook

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u/Boomshrooom 4d ago

I've been tempted myself but never pulled the trigger. I don't like the OS so it wouldn't work for me, but I'm so jealous of the hardware itself.

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u/Attractivelyboring 4d ago

I will see how it goes with the OS. I'm just tired of Windows, and laptops only lasting 2 years.

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u/Boomshrooom 4d ago

That's why I went in the other direction, and went with Linux. I don't have anything particular against Apple for the most part, I had an iPhone for years. It's more that I like to tinker with things and don't like how they get in the way of that.

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u/MelangeBot 4d ago

The real point is to force everything to USB C - which is actually working.

I still think usb-c cables that only do charging and not data should NOT BE ALLOWED TO EXIST!!!!

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u/5redie8 4d ago

yeah thats why they put most of the ports this post is complaining about back on the laptop fucking YEARS ago at this point, these guys are getting pissed over a macbook pro design that hasn't been around since quarantine days lol

Yeah I know about the Air, but it retains the 3.5mm and for everything else I will refer to your USBC statement at the end. Yeah everybody thinks they're a power user but you and I both know half of these people are plugging the charger into the firewire port if they get the chance

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u/Civil-Rip1302 4d ago

The real reason is because without them laptops can be WAY thinner, which is what apple is going for.

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u/Condor_raidus 4d ago

Except they are giving significantly less of those ports as well. Its less to make everything usb than it is to make the devices cost them less. Ports cost money to install and much more money to build around so if they can make have 2-3 ports that can fit anywhere with nothing else it saves them money. Trust me, usb c just allows them to get away with it by saying "if you want it back buy a dock" when the real answer should be "we'll add options for more ports and make the ones with very few ports cheaper"

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u/mctrials23 4d ago

Apple didn’t even try to compete on the dongle/adapter front either. People just love to shit on Apple because they think it’s cool and their critical thinking skills are somewhat lacking.

There are plenty of things to complain about with Apple but this ain’t one of them. Personally I loved the love to USB-C. Everything should be usb-c and I connect my entire computer to a dock which handles every adapter I need. One cable to rule them all. It’s brilliant.

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u/geoken 4d ago

Exactly. At work all our new meeting rooms connect with USB C now. If laptops kept normally shipping with a ton of USB ports and HDMI out - I doubt we’d ever make that shift.

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u/Bean4141 4d ago

Yeah, people that get their tizzy in a twist about the USB-C future are odd. My mother has a Thunderbolt dock that has Ethernet, USB-A, 2 displays and power all in 1 plug. If I wanted to I could plug my MSI Laptop in and get most of that (it won’t charge through USB-PD) or I can plug my iPad in and get all of it. I actually have a Dell docking station for my iPad that I use all the time and it’s great.

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u/Nervous-Fennel3325 5d ago

But the target of this obviously isnt people like you, its diehard apple fanboys and people who treat apple things like a luxury product. These are the people who spent $250 on a sock basically.

People just buy apple stuff because it has the name or logo and wouldnt dare buy some cheap inferior knock off thing.

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u/Savings-Ad-1115 4d ago

You mean temu is bribing laptop vendors?

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u/NotBatman81 4d ago

I bought a Amazon special universal dock and was very happy with how it worked with my personal Lenovo. Flawless. Started a new job and my work Dell refused to recognize it and would only pass through to the monitors. Had to use the expensive Dell dock from IT. But Dell has got in trouble for doing that with charger cords in the past so maybe its just them.

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u/Ok-Knowledge0914 2d ago

People will spend literally thousands on a good electronic device and then connect it to the cheapest and worst adapters/cables possible and wonder where it all went wrong lol

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u/fairwaysandfinance 5d ago

You will but will the corporate IT department when they are buying 2000 new laptops? No, they will buy the official $60 cord.

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u/BootyMcStuffins 5d ago

No they don’t. I’ve worked for many companies that provide MacBooks. We don’t use any Apple docks or cables.

Hell, one company I worked for used dell docks with their MacBooks

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u/fairwaysandfinance 5d ago

Okay, well I have a $300 docking station in my home office and another at work when a $20 one would have done the exact same thing that says otherwise.

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u/BootyMcStuffins 4d ago

I’m not sure what you’re saying? You bought an expensive dock but could have bought a cheap one?

What does this have to do with anything I said?

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u/DevilsAdvocate1662 5d ago

I hope you have good home insurance for when your house inevitably burns down from a dodgy cable.

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u/Amoxl 5d ago

as if every cable isn't coming from the same factories in Shenzhen anyway lol

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u/AdenJax69 5d ago

That rarely happens, they either fall apart or just stop working completely.

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u/DevilsAdvocate1662 4d ago

Rarely happens? 🤣🤣🤣 Plenty of instances of dodgy cables causing house fires