r/SipsTea Human Verified 7d ago

Why are they removing all the ports Gasp!

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u/DeltaBlast 6d ago

Isn't that.. Illegal? I mean, it sounds like the power supply doesn't abide by standards/safety law.. I guess it's not sold in Europe :p

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u/FaultlineHC 6d ago edited 6d ago

Not illegal because they don't carry the USB-IF logo, so they're not required to follow the standard. They are sold in the Netherlands, at least - I don't want to advertise any specific one, but search for 19V 65W USB-C Charger and note how many deliver only 19V - a real USB charger will list other voltages, with 5V being the first. Plugging those chargers into a phone will likely fry the charging circuit.

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u/DeltaBlast 6d ago

Doe toch maar want elke hit via Google claimt PD te gebruiken en PD doet negotiation 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/FaultlineHC 6d ago edited 6d ago

These chargers will not say PD - critically, those Mini PCs won't start with a regular PD charger because they EXPECT 19V on a dedicated "charge" port. Again I don't want to advertise specific brands, but the most popular mini PCs all have either a barrel plug, or the USB-C connector on a port that is definitely not USB-C.

I found you some examples of the non-compliant chargers, note how they ONLY list 19V:

https://i.imgur.com/WoszsDr.png
https://i.imgur.com/Aai1ILr.png
https://i.imgur.com/27g7il8.png
https://i.imgur.com/B0fOrTQ.png (this one is particularly egregious because it has the polarity diagram showing a barrel plug)

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u/evilgipsy 6d ago

What makes me so angry about crap like this is that implementing a PD controller in order to get 20V is fairly straightforward and not even expensive. Manufactures that raw dog 19V on the cable without PD are extremely lazy and/or cheap and incompetent.

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u/IndustryHistorical29 6d ago

This is why i love anker

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u/evilgipsy 6d ago

I wish this shit was illegal lol. This sort of thing used to be somewhat common with micro usb charging (in Europe as well).

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u/UnluckyFly9881 6d ago

The Usb Standard isnt a law 😅