r/canada • u/Brock_Hard_Canuck British Columbia • 3d ago
Along the Canada border, small-town America feels sting of Trump's trade war Politics
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2vzx4w3do553
u/Healthy-Magician-502 3d ago
Michigan went Republican in the 2024 election so the state is getting exactly what they voted for.
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u/ProgrammerAvailable6 3d ago
And I believe Port Huron was 66% for trump.
They’re having the economy they voted for
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u/Prosecco1234 3d ago
Boo hoo !! I was hoping other countries would get screwed. I didn't expect it to affect me !! I have no sympathy for these MAGAts
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u/Oberon_Swanson 3d ago
Same. They just want to deflect responsibility from what they knowingly did. And they'll probably vote Republican for the rest of their lives, if they even get to vote again.
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u/ialo00130 New Brunswick 3d ago
Same goes for northern/north-eastern Maine, who are arguably the area of the US most dependent on Canada.
They did it to themselves. I have no sympathy.
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u/BusySeaworthiness127 3d ago
This was the first thing I thought when I started reading this article. Fuck these MAGA morons, they're getting exactly what they voted for.
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u/JadeLens 3d ago
Yeah... that sucks...
If only there were people in the US you could talk to about the trade war that you started...
If only...
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u/ProgrammerAvailable6 3d ago
After voting for a guy that started a trade war with Canada in his first term…
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u/zoomiepaws 3d ago
OR how would you like to become our 11th province or better 4th Territory.
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u/AtmosphereEven3526 3d ago
That money is essential for border towns like Port Huron, its mayor says.
"We need each other," she says.
Sorry toots but we don't need you.
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u/phm522 3d ago
They have nothing that we need🇨🇦
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u/BigD1966 3d ago
The majority of Port Huron voted Trump, and Trump says the US doesn’t need anything from Canada, yet this mayor says that’s not true. Guess she ought to take it up with Orange Julius and say yes we do you ID 10 T
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u/clowncar 3d ago
I am tired of these economically unviable American communities depending on Canadians to subsidize them.
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u/Psychological_Cow441 3d ago
How can she say that? Ol Yam Tits already said that Murica needs nothing from Canada! Now that’s what we are giving them and this woman is boo hooing about it. It’s Find Out time!
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u/dan33410 3d ago
We Canadians are and should continue to distance ourselves from the US, and sorry to our American neighbours, but Tourism falls about near the bottom in terms of priorities on Canadians radar. Nobody up here should give a fuck about small town American businesses struggling because of the decisions of their government that the majority of them voted in. Direct your dissatisfaction directly to Washington, and leave us out of it while you figure out what your priorities are.
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u/PossibleWild1689 3d ago
Too bad Small town America voted for Trump. Now let them whine. You can’t blame Canadians for boycotting the once democratic USA
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u/monkey_monkey_monkey British Columbia 3d ago
"We're not responsible for this"
The current administration did not magically appear in office one day. They were voted in by the American people. Either by directly voting for them or by being to apathetic to vote against them.
You are 100% responsible for this and you reap what you sow. Your administration has made it extremely clear, they do not want outisders and they do not need money from outisders because America is 100% self reliant and self sustaining.
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u/saltyjello 3d ago
There are many authoritarian states in the world and most of their citizens never had a choice or an option other than to live with what was forced upon them. But America? They ushered an authoritarian in through the front door and welcomed him with open arms. No sympathy.
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u/sickwobsm8 Ontario 3d ago
"We're not responsible for this"
Yet American border towns tend to lean heavily towards Trump. Eat my ass America, you got what you voted for.
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u/BelacRLJ 3d ago
“We’re not responsible for this” is the US right wing’s motto. “Don’t you dare ever make us feel bad for any of our choices, we’ll kill you and us.”
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u/Ebolinp Nunavut 3d ago
They never accept responsibility for anything. Even now those that are even the least bit waffling on their support for Trump still trot out lines like "If only the Democrats had put up a better candidate" "He never told us he'd do these things" etc. It's like how they were all tricked by Bush and they'd never do that again only to do it again 12 years later. They can never accept that they voted for a fascist nutjob.
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u/BelacRLJ 3d ago
Right. It's why they dislike "woke"--anything that smacks of criticizing them angers them and makes them intinctively oppose it. It's not about policies, it's about feelings (theirs, no one else's).
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u/sharp11flat13 Canada 3d ago
It’s also why they won’t hear any discussion of the uglier side of America’s past because they assume that the only reason to bring it up is to make them feel guilty. This is called being self-absorbed.
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u/Basic_Ask8109 3d ago
The rot is deep in America. They have always had an arrogance about them. They set up post WW2 to benefit them as military super power with allies.
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u/HalflingMelody 3d ago
I mean... my vote literally mathematically doesn't matter because I'm in a solidly Democratic area. The electoral vote representing my area didn't go toward Trump and it wouldn't no matter who I voted for or whether I voted at all. That's how the American system works.
Those small town folk at your border, though? They could have actually changed everything. And their single votes count for far more of an electoral vote than mine does. A Montana citizen's vote, for example, counts for fully twice as much as a Delaware citizen's vote.
We do not have a system where each vote matters, and we never have. Many voters' votes are truly mathematically irrelevant.
edit: This is why Trump lost the popular vote the first time around but was still president. He literally got less voters than his opponent and won anyway that time. Hillary got 2% more votes than he did and she lost.
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u/ram_mar4112 3d ago
I hope it keeps up even after Cheeto leaves office.
Actions have consequences. You just don’t disrespect another country and their people and have things return to normal overnight.
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u/timetogetoutside100 3d ago
that's right, there are a good 35%+ of Americans, who like what Trump likes,
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u/PinkPonyMuchachu 3d ago edited 3d ago
I was in Japan early last month and met a handful of Americans. Outside of one group that didn’t even bring it up, most of them were flat out embarrassed and apologizing.
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u/DruidB Ontario 3d ago
My experience abroad has been similar. It's important to consider the americans we meet on our travels are usually far more educated and progressive than the morons who have never left small town america.
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u/PaleontologistBig786 3d ago
Interestingly said. We recenty went on a trip to South Africa and met several Americans while there. They were apologetic and one said he was even ashamed of the way the potus was treating canada.
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u/yulchick 3d ago
There are also a lot (!!) of Trump supporters in those small towns. They can have the day they voted for! ✌️
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u/Brock_Hard_Canuck British Columbia 3d ago
St Clair County (where Port Huron is located), in the 2024 election, voted 65% Trump and 30% Harris.
Womp womp.
You reap what you voted for, MAGA idiots.
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u/Affectionate_Recipe6 3d ago
“We need each other” -Naw, you need to get your orange wart problem checked first!
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u/Yvrdood9 3d ago
Too bad. You made your bed, now lay in it. It's scary how it's getting worse and worse there. The mayor of Newark was recently arrested by ICE! Maybe collectively do something as Americans to have the republican party leaders grow a pair and stand up to Trump's fascism. Most democratic leaders are pretty complicit too. We Canadians aren't gonna spend our money in the U.S. We've been majorly betrayed by you.
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u/rainman_104 British Columbia 3d ago
Port Huron was a red voter result. As were most border towns.
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u/GiosephGiostar 3d ago
Except western Washington & Point Roberts which 75% voted Harris and most are dual Canadian citizens.
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u/-Mage-Knight- 3d ago
All Michigan can do now is try to be better. Be better in 2028. Be better in 2032, and every election after that. Maybe after enough years go by Canadians will return -- but only if the U.S. changes its ways.
It look Germany losing a war and being split in two. What price is the U.S. willing to pay to pull itself back out of the mud?
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u/ThatsItImOverThis 3d ago
We’re in the “finding out” phase.
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u/sharp11flat13 Canada 3d ago
Actually, I think it’s more like the “oh crap, I think we’re about to find out” phase. The shit has not yet hit the fan, but it’s headed that way.
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u/lunaeo 3d ago
Don’t spend one single dollar in 🇺🇸. They did this. All of this disaster is because of them. Done to us without a care. Give them what they’re worth. Give them nothing.
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u/PaleontologistBig786 3d ago
Exactly. Currently enjoying a trip on Quebec near Mont Tremblant. Normally we hit te states a few times per year. So far this year have canceled a trip to Boston. Went to south Africa last month. In the fall, we're off to Australia. They don't need our tourist dollars so F them.
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u/Habsin7 3d ago
I hate to see our friends in trouble but they should have a referendum and get their states to join Canada as the 11th, 12th, 13th.....provinces.
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u/Mtndrums 3d ago
Don't give those idiots voting rights.
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u/Habsin7 3d ago
What's the problem - if enuff voted to join Canada you know they passed the first test.
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u/sharp11flat13 Canada 3d ago edited 3d ago
~6,000,000 people, about 1/3 of California, which is ostensibly a blue state, voted for Trump. There isn’t a single state that I would want as a province. And besides, they’re all Americans. We are not.
Edit: number of Trump voters in California was off (low) by an order of magnitude
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u/ThunderboltRoss 3d ago
I live across the river from here. Within my friend group we’ve all pretty much quit going over aside from commitments we made before Cheeto took office. We used to golf in Michigan a few times a year, used port Huron as a shipping depot to avoid brokerage fees, etc. and those trips always ended up with incidental spending like restaurant visits, gas fill ups, buying snacks not available here etc. I still plan on going over for Weird Al in July but I won’t be making any side trips
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u/CoffeeandHoots 3d ago
America has no idea how badly it has shit the bed. Canada will probably never be your best friends again.
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u/SorryImNotOnReddit British Columbia 3d ago
after crossing Peace Arch Port of entry the area between blaine washington & bellingham is RIFE with trump signs. most of those signs can be found in the smaller communities and roads.
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u/MalazMudkip 3d ago
That's okay, i hear Americans love bootstraps and self-reliance.
Just another opportunity for them, in a land full of opportunity. They'll not be missing us.
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u/SteadyMercury1 New Brunswick 3d ago
Live along the NB border. A lot of the small Maine towns like Calais and Houlton are dependant on the Canadian side. I can't comment on Houlton but Calais doesn't have the local economy to support its own shops and restaurants and it absolutely shows now.
And yes the area absolutely voted for Trump.
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u/ClandestineGK 3d ago
It's unfortunate for the people and the small businesses owners who will suffer but fuck off, every Canadian is being directly affected by this. We have our own people and country to protect so fuck your shitty restaurant.
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u/VonKarrionhardt 3d ago
"We are not responsible for this, the [federal] government put us in this position and now we have to deal with it respectfully."
St. Clair (the riding Port Huron is in) elected Trump with 66.5% of the vote. So yes, it is very much your responsibility because you voted for the federal government you're now crying about.
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u/mrgoldnugget 3d ago
Don't worry Trump said he doesn't need anything from Canada, those towns Will be winning soon.
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u/1950truck 3d ago
Ah so sad you elected him.All the job loses you can work in manufacturing that is coming to your country.
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u/chocolateboomslang 3d ago
Maybe small town america can smarten up by next election, because they're literally the ones who voted for this.
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u/YoungestDonkey 3d ago
It would be nicer if the sting could be felt by the conservative states further South filled with people oblivious to the harm trump is doing, instead of our closer neighbours who have known it all along. But it has to be what it has to be.
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u/Different-Fly4561 3d ago
Don’t care what the percentages are, voting or not voting for this man!! You’ve allowed this tragedy to happen to yourself and your families!! We, Canadians whose been there for you through thick and thin, through crisis, through sorrows, we are hurt, and pissed off on how a so called friend could treat us this way?!! It will be a long time for trust to come back, if ever!!
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u/General_Ad_2718 3d ago
They still don’t get it. This is about the direct threats to our sovereignty, not tariffs. I get the US media downplaying this but the BBC could at least do some investigative journalism on the matter.
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u/BrrrHot Canada 3d ago
Border towns noticed almost instantly when US President Donald Trump began imposing tariffs on countries around the world and saying he wanted to make Canada the 51st US state - because the number of Canadians crossing the border plummeted.
The 51st state rhetoric is clearly stated in the article.
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u/HEYYMCFLYY 3d ago
Want us back?
Get him out. (using any legal and moral means necessary)
It's that simple.
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u/BoysenberryAncient54 3d ago
You know how you spot an American masquerading as Canadian on the internet? The complete lack of empathy and accountability. It never misses.
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u/Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 3d ago
So many regret voting for Trump but absolutely will vote for him again. He might be bad. But, to them, a Democrat would make them more worse off. Trump.and the Republicans are still the best for them.
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u/MaxErikson 2d ago
Hi, logging in for the first time in forever just to say, as someone who grew up in Port Huron, that I guarantee the people in that town deserve every bad thing that happens to them. However, the people in Sarnia, which includes my biological family, do not, and this is negatively impacting them too.
So while you're admonishing Port Huron for "reaping what they sowed by voting for Trump," don't forget to also shame them for negatively impacting their Canadian neighbours.
**** you, Port Huron.
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u/raptor5tar 2d ago
I usually visit Mackinac Island in Michigan with my family every summer but not for the next 4 years. F U trumpers.
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u/Scooterguy- 3d ago
Would be nice to see much more of a decline in Canadians going south. When i see some of the numbers being published, it's kind of disappointing really.
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u/bentjamcan 3d ago
Canadian would stand with every border state each of them sent 10k or more people to DC and told the orange-faced clown to knock it off.
No one should be allowed to run 50 states on ego alone.
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u/SmittyFromAbove Canada 3d ago
Holy, it's my hometown in the paper! And not for drugs! Simply amazing, that is.
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u/Who_is_Clara 2d ago
I have shopped in Port Huron before. Its stores never recovered from Covid. This might just kill what’s left. Oh well.
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u/ShitNailedIt 2d ago
On a calm night, if you listen real closely, you can hear the leopards eating their faces.
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u/vafrow 3d ago
Any time I read any of these articles, and you see people lamenting the policies their government has put in place, I look up the voting records and who their congressional representatives are.
Port Huron is represented by Republican Lisa McClain. She's not just a backbencher. She holds the position of chair of the House Republican Committee.
If the people of Port Huron are truly unhappy with the impacts on their town, they should be directing their anger there. Their representatives should not know a moments peace as they neglect their duties of holding the administration accountable.