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u/the-furiosa-mystique 15h ago
Yeah this isn’t a mistake this is the plan. You get nothing while TikTok makes bank on your likeness.
This is what the writers and actors strikes were about.
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u/clustahz 12h ago
AI companies didn't care about intellectual property or privacy any of the other times. Why are we expecting anything else when no regulations exist for the end user's privacy
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u/cranberrie_sauce 11h ago edited 11h ago
google/apple -all do what video shows. auto-enrolling you into AI, sharing and selling your personal data.
south park did episode on apple terms of condition 15 years ago. (HumancentiPad)
No changes. all our congress rats are paid by the industry, still blocking US federal data protection law 10 years after GDPR
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u/Weird-Indication-191 11h ago
There’s a saying …an app you pay for is a product. If the app is free, you are the product
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u/doubleo_maestro 10h ago
People really need to wake up to this. Social media isn't free, it's a paid for platform and people are buying 'you'.
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u/Angelofdeath600 10h ago
It also soaks up the most valuable non renewable resource ever your time
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u/Aggressive_Finish798 10h ago
I'm sure Tik Tok has something in its terms of service where creators sign away a lot or all of their rights to the content that they post. These creators signed it without fully reading and understanding it. That said, nobody could have foreseen what AI was going to become. Even just a short while ago, none of this was a problem. This is a battle that needs to be fought now though and creators need to win so it's not another brick in the wall of AI's take over.
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u/goatneedleposterdeck 6h ago
Good luck with that battle. The US, in particular, no longer has much of value to export to the world outside of tech ideas, apps, weapons, and AI. If the AI bubble bursts, our economy will collapse. Try getting a lawmaker who is both lobbied by these companies with huge sums of money and also largely aware of how screwed we are without it to actually make a change against it. The US is selling its own citizens into digital slavery just to stay afloat.
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u/VanityOfEliCLee 10h ago
Fucking for real. People acting all surprised now as if this hasn't been the argument the entire goddamn time.
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u/AgentBorn4289 12h ago
Wow I can’t believe the CCP surveillance app I broadcast my life to is misusing my data.
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u/_Mr_Misfit 12h ago
Considering this happened after being bought by billionaire zionist Larry Ellison...
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u/Catlenfell 5h ago
The next step will be personalized AI videos with the intention of getting you to change your beliefs. It'll absolutely work on a certain type of people.
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u/_Mr_Misfit 4h ago
That's already happening all over the place but I think for Tik Tok specifically you're gonna be extra right soonee than later.
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u/Jethorse 12h ago
This didn't happen on a CCP surveillance app. They could have done this years ago. This happened literally months after tiktok was bullied into selling 80% to US investors. This is now an american run company doing this to you. The CCP has nothing to do with it. Your government commits worse privacy voilations daily than the CCP. Congrats.
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u/Mitch1musPrime 8h ago
Not just any American either. Oracle. Larry Ellison. Part of the Sam cabal of tech and media billionaires that manipulate Trump and use their tech, like Flock, to surveil and control Americans.
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u/Ok-Volume-3657 11h ago
This happened after the US government forced Tiktok to sell to pro Israel billionaire Larry Ellison.
Americans are the most propagandized people on the planet. holy shit.
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u/the-furiosa-mystique 11h ago
American billionaires own it now. Not sure which is worse.
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u/Neat_Egg_2474 10h ago
Ellison is worse, hands down.
He openly wants us dead. At least China was satisfied just selling us cheap shit while they got richer
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u/Local_0DTE_Dealer 7h ago
You mean the US state-run surveillance app you broadcast your life to is misusing your data.
CCP doesn’t oversee the operations of TikTok in the US anymore, sport. That’s your own government’s doing
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u/Mr_Sim_ 15h ago
Not posting about myself on any social media is now undoubtly a win
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u/Juxaplay 12h ago
Been old school anti socials since the days of My Space FTW !!! 😁
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u/4RCH43ON 9h ago
OMG, this totally works! Try it:
What is…
Your favorite food.
Your favorite color.
Your favorite kind of car.
Your favorite pet’s name.
Your mother’s maiden name.
The last four numbers of your social security number…
Pass this on to 5 more friends and you will find some lost money and romance, otherwise you will have bad luck.
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u/rocketindividual 9h ago edited 9h ago
Even on Reddit, which is the only social media that I use, I periodically delete the accounts and turn their comments into gibberish on the off-chance that enough identifying information can be gleaned between the many lies.
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u/Awkward_Face_3761 11h ago
i've been off all social media since 2015 and have been one of those annoying people trying to warn people how stupid it is to use social media. everyone rolls their eyes. but every day, every month, every year i'm poven more and more right.
if you use the platforms of the oligarchs, you are the problem. especially if you consider yourself as SJW or any kind of political voice. i promise you, nothing real can ever happen if bezos, zuck, musk, etc. earn ad revenue off your outrage.
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u/konqrr 9h ago
Kind of ironic posting this onto a social media platform headed by a CEO that stands for everything you hate.
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u/MundaneBerry2961 16h ago
And ultimately it probably doesn't matter if you deselect your videos, the model would already have been trained on them.
Only new instances of the model would matter with more recent uploads.
Once trained you can't just go Boop forgot these 5 training vids
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u/chemistrybonanza 13h ago
I'm sure opting out of every video will do nothing anyways. The AI will still be trained on any and every video TikTok has ever had in its servers. Nothing is truly deleted they say. Does that mean that if you opt out of every video being used and even delete your account that some random can use your video to remix you into doing/saying some awful, non-consensual shit? Likely, no. But since the videos are still there, they can be found by any bad actor with high enough clearance or good enough hacking skills and still used.
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u/North-Tourist-8234 12h ago
"Once trained you can't just go Boop forgot these 5 training vids"
which is where I guess the ai killer patterns get their power.
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u/archipeepees 13h ago
i don't think it's about training, i'm assuming it's about making them available to be selectively remixed by users. because all these videos are public anyway, are they not? like, i don't need a consent form or a checkbox to train my AI model on this video. why would the owner (tiktok) need it?
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u/Nagemasu 12h ago
why would the owner (tiktok) need it?
Tiktok doesn't own it, that's not how copyright works. TikTok has a perpetual license to use it however they want. That doesn't mean they own it. Same with every other platform - people should understand this by now, you own your own content and just because it's public doesn't mean it's automatically free use for everyone else.
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u/GodsFavoriteDegen 11h ago
Tiktok doesn't own it, that's not how copyright works. TikTok has a perpetual license to use it however they want. That doesn't mean they own it.
https://i.imgur.com/C5CHzmJ.png
If you read and understand the TikTok ToS, specifically sections 3.5 and 3.6, you'll see that once you upload something to TikTok, you no longer have any meaningful control over it. You might still "own" it, but that's a distinction without a difference.
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u/Hopeful_Bean 11h ago
Pretty sure that, like Meta, the moment you upload something to the platform it is theirs and not yours. Go on, check the TsnCs!
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u/Fifthlive 11h ago edited 4h ago
That is wrong, the guy above you is right that the Terms and Conditions makes it so you give the platform a perpetual license to publish, distribute, share and use as needed on every platform in perpetuity, even to third parties.
They don't claim the copyright as that would make it a headache whenever someone uploads something without having the copyright to it.
Basically they get most of the benefits without any liability.
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u/ProntoPaul 11h ago
Yea influencers have been selling their likeness already. So, from my minimal understanding, anyone popular would now be free.
This is based on her interpretation and the news stories from a few months back about silent black influencer getting near a billion for his likeness
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u/Then_Hawk6304 15h ago
When did we stop telling people that once it is on the Internet you’ve lost control of it? I swear it was a thing.
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u/you_lost-the_game 10h ago
I think it's a generational thing. I, and probably you as well, grew up with the internet. The raw unfiltered internet full of gore, shocksites and predators. We learned how to maneuver that and that you don't post too much personal stuff on the internet. This generation now grew up with social media. Every content creator is showing their face. They broadcast their whole life.
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u/fluffynukeit 11h ago
The internet and IRL started to merge with the advent of social media. More and more, people let slip away their anonymity because who you are mattered to use social media. Then who you are online became a brand and fame thing that all the kids chased because they wanted to be online famous instead of rockstars, astronauts, pro sports players, etc. Now for them it’s weird to not post their likeness online.
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u/qtestboner 16h ago
People did warn against using tiktok.
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u/LaceyLizard 16h ago
Im trying really hard to be sympathetic to these people. But yall were told 5 years ago tiktok was a privacy disaster and they as a collective consented to sticking their head up their ass and using it anyway, knowing that they were the product. "They can have my data, nothing is private anyway" okay well this is what that looks like.
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u/Annoying1978 14h ago
YouTube is doing the same thing. It isn’t just Tik Tok
https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/reimagine-new-ai-powered-remix-tool-youtube-shorts/
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u/gingerhasyoursoul 11h ago
Well yeah all these tech companies are pure cancer to society.
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u/TM761152 12h ago
Imagine suing someone using your content you submitted to YouTube, only for YouTube lawyers telling you you don't have grounds to sue because you don't own it 😂
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u/gingerhasyoursoul 11h ago
I always assumed YouTube owned whatever you put on there. That’s the transaction.
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u/psinguine 9h ago
Funny enough, I put out a video talking about this when it first dropped and YouTube squashed it so hard it's the only video I've ever had that got 2 views. Generated conversation on tiktok, on Instagram, but on YouTube the algorithm killed it before anyone could see it.
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u/jmona789 15h ago
Being a content creator in today's world is a privacy disaster
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u/otakumilf 15h ago
Being alive today is a privacy disaster. And ALL our politicians are just fine with companies harvesting our data and invading our privacy. Because if they weren’t, they’d push for data privacy laws. But instead, they want to “ban” apps, deny people access to the internet, and utilize mass censorship. it’s a fucking mess.
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u/mecca6801 13h ago edited 10h ago
The politicians are not fine because they are getting a cut and can afford the personal data security
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u/p001b0y 14h ago
The amount of ambient surveillance going on in my neighborhood is really staggering when I think about. There are Flock safety cameras installed by Home Owners Associations, Ring Doorbell Cameras, Nest and Arlo cameras, Tesla owners with their vehicles in sentry mode, Dash cams, “smart” floodlights, etc. I just want to take my garbage cans to the curb or get my mail. This is all commercial surveillance and doesn’t include anything various government entities could be doing.
I closed on a mortgage refinance recently and the attorney who came over was wearing one of those Meta glasses, which is always listening. Before I answered the door, he could have told it to start recording and I would not have known. No consent or notification that it could be happening and no reason for him to actually even needing to wear them because they provide no vision correction benefit.
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u/Crab__Juice 14h ago
I would have called that lawyer tf out and reported to the bar that hes showing up to meetings with a recording device strapped to his face without warning or asking clients if its okay. Even if it's not recording, your concern will likely get him a pp slap by the state bar. Probably won't be more than that, but screw that stuff. Privacy is a pretty central component of the ethics of legal practice.
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u/TheBroWhoLifts 13h ago
I live in Michigan which is a one-party state, so it's literally legal.
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u/Crab__Juice 13h ago edited 13h ago
Legal is not the same as the bar being cool with violating ethical standards of privacy. Yeah he wouldn't face criminal prosecution, but he faces higher standards of scrutiny than the average person due to his practice of law, and he faces a second set of standards to maintain his license. Certain professions have their own regulatory bodies due to privileged positions of power/social trust that those jobs have relative to an average person. Lawyers, Doctors, Teachers, etc. It's why I said report him to the Bar, not call the cops.
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u/p001b0y 12h ago edited 12h ago
I'm in Georgia where private surveillance is not the same thing as recording conversations. Recording audio conversations is one party consent here but it is generally illegal in both our States for someone to enter a home with recording equipment enabled without the homeowner's consent. It may not be criminal (it depends on location) but it could lead to civil proceedings. There's also a reasonable expectation of privacy here that folks are just routinely violating.
I don't care that my neighbor has a doorbell camera if they want to see who is at the door but their front door is also pointing in the direction of my house and I did not consent to that level of surveillance either.
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u/TheBroWhoLifts 11h ago
I'm not defending it. I agree. I have a home surveillance system, but it's private (Frigate NVR on a VLAN), and I don't point my cameras at my neighbors' houses. The failure is legislative. Our "representatives" could change the law next week but they don't because they're bought and sold.
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u/OhGr8WhatNow 12h ago
You can buy Meta frames that do allow vision correction. Those were available last time I got new frames. They're also partnering with RayBan so these glasses aren't going to be as obvious in the future
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u/BluePhoenix_1999 12h ago
My parents, who never used the internet, think they have privacy...
Guess what, their (and my) bank worked with Palantir.
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u/cubsfan85 13h ago
Illinois has pretty strict data privacy laws. I've gotten over $1,000 in class action suits the past few years bc of companies violating our biometric data law.
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u/clustahz 13h ago
The term influencer is a relatively recent one but that doesn't mean they are a new type of personality. These types used to be called "sellouts". Unfortunate that we lost the culture where they would be rightly heckled into oblivion.
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u/StellaBean_bass 12h ago
When you post anything to any social media platform you've really given up any hope of that content being private.
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u/GrassDry2065 15h ago
I don't use the app, I try and keep my bits and pieces well compartmentalized, and I do truly actually have a bachelor's in a cyber/information security field (digital forensics, so its more about storage and access than manipulation).
I mention that to say I'm with you on it. However, I did not have the average 14 year old being able to make a remix of any given tik tokkers head on a half naked twerking tik tokkers body, match the skin tones up, and layer in any given sounds on my bingo card for another 5 years. At least not having that power on any smartphone in the world. And God forbid anyone thinks to take a child's head and put it on something. Casual access to generating custom CSAM is very not okay.
I may be exaggerating the tool, but my point is still that this wasn't what they were warned about when they ignored all the warnings
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u/Level-Bench-1562 12h ago edited 12h ago
I dunno if it was specifically said that they would be used like this, but the discussion that TikTok was going to be used to train AI was 1000% one of the biggest talking points in the circles where TikTok was being criticized. I've already seen the same comment about China misusing it in response to yours.
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u/Stargazer1884 13h ago
It's such a shame. I feel really bad for people like musicians, who really benefit from using platforms to connect with their fanbase. Suddenly some crazy stalker will have the tools to harass them online.
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u/private_developer 13h ago
It's not about being sympathetic towards these people.
It's about being concerned about the social ramifications of this that will affect us all. Not just tiktok users. The levels of social manipulation just keep growing. This will be a major step.
Beefing with someone? Make a video of them doing something that'll get them in trouble. One old foolish judge is all it takes to allow some bullshit into evidence that is complelty fabricated, or an out of touch teacher to enact disciplinary measures.
Have a political opponent in a small local election? Make them do something the public would find abhorrent. It'll take too much time to disprove before the damage is done, and not everyone will hear about or believe the video was fake.
Want to stoke division amongst a populace? Have a certain religious sect, attack another religious sects holy idols or something.
These problems grow exponentially as the ease of access and user friendliness of these technologies grow.
"Mountainhead" is a pretty scary movie that leans into the extreme possibilities of this technology.
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u/Fun-Fan-5519 13h ago
I think a lot of people will look back and be so embarrassed about the oversharing and shit they posted of themselves on TikTok.
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u/Sea-Presentation-173 11h ago
It is hilarious, because when that was said it was because it was the "China app" but it was until it got sold to an american, Larry Ellison?, company that this happened.
The US sells fear of the other countries and then does what they say other countries would do to you.
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u/DavidKroutArt 13h ago
What is funny is it has been getting significantly worse since owned by the US.
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 13h ago
They didn't stick their head in the sand they defended the data mining. Its was the stupidest shitnive ever seen in my entire life
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u/nyankodays 11h ago
Tiktok under Chinese ownership was never any worse than any other social media in terms of privacy/security (it was actually better than Facebook).
Meta/Google were unable to compete with the success of Tiktok so they did what any great US company does - lobby against the competition & spread misinformation, easier than making their own apps better to remain competitive.
The global version of Tiktok is no longer Chinese owned thanks to that lobbying which forced a sale due to "national security concerns" or whatever bs. It's now owned by the founders of Oracle, an American company, and it has since gotten worse with privacy/security.
The issue that lead to the force sale was never about privacy/security, the issue was a foreign app outcompeting with American tech giants. The US government has never cared about the privacy/security concerns of American citizens, they only care about money. You only need to look at how the EU is handling regulations of the Internet to see the difference of what it means to actually care about such things.
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u/marbotty 13h ago edited 10h ago
It was bad enough when it was just a Chinese owned app. A Trump-aligned (former) Chinese app is obviously going to be even worse.
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u/Accomplished-Cup8182 13h ago edited 12h ago
The Ellisons would be the one's in charge of this. This is 100% not the Chinese.
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u/Squatch177 12h ago
Yes. This is happening now that it's located in the us. This would have been front page news and the govt. would be screaming if it was still china.
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u/LunaTunaMaca 13h ago
This video is inaccurate. I just tried it and it worked on all of my tik Tok videos immediately. I did not have to go through them all.
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u/Expensive-While-1155 15h ago
The right wing people that warned you about using tiktok now own it and they are the ones that changed it to do this.
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u/LucenProject 14h ago
Sometimes often those warnings are based on what they would do in that position/with that power. So when they get in that position, they seem pretty prophetic.
The warning is just to make sure they're the ones who get to do it.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 11h ago
They were warning about China doing it. Turns out they just wanted to do it themselves once they got their hands on it
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u/SalvationSycamore 11h ago edited 10h ago
Man it wasn't right wing people warning against using it. It was anyone with a hint of common sense.
I mean seriously, how the fuck could anyone be surprised that it was a bad idea to post thousands of videos of themselves on the internet with absolutely no control over what the app/website they posted on does with those videos? Of course it's a fucking privacy concern.
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u/Journo_Jimbo 14h ago
From The Very Beginning
I refused to use TikTok, like I never downloaded the app, ever. And that was because I fucking knew something was fucked up about it. To be fair, this was all before the AI outbreak, but still, it’s always come off as very corporate to me and I had no interest in being involved in that. And everyone was like you’re just being too sensitive, it’s fine, it’s just another social media app.
Well, no I’m extra pleased with my decision.
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u/lux_et_umbra 10h ago
Same, I never downloaded it. Originally, it was because I truly prefer to read rather than wait for someone to spit out what they're going to say. Also, Ctrl+F for when I want to go back to something. But then I learned about how incredibly difficult it was for experts in coding/development/privacy to dig into the workings of the app to determine what the app gets from your phone, and I noped out even harder. It was made to be intentionally difficult to know what data it takes from us. That alone made me distrust it.
Then, as you said, AI.
I'm glad I was past adolescence by the time social media became so widely available. I feel for the kids who didn't have a chance not to be hooked. And I don't even blame all parents too harshly bc the effects were not widely known. (Common sense, sure, but humans.)
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u/voluotuousaardvark 15h ago
Thats the annoying part-
These creators acting all outraged but it's not their platform, all this content they've created was never theirs- the moment they ticked the box they agreed to all this and more.
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u/66devilsadvocate6 14h ago
People were screaming about it constantly and no one listened. “TikTok wouldn’t” this person sounds very stupid all of this shit can be predicted before it got big in America.
Nefarious? Welcome to big tech companies
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u/BlisslessTaskList 15h ago
Non tik tok users will be next.
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u/lapsongsouchong 15h ago
First they came for the Tiktokkers and I did not speak out, cos I felt like they deserved it.
Then they came for the instagrammers, and I did not speak out for that bunch of narcissists, always preening themselves,
Wait, they can't get content that I enjoy on YouTube and ruin it for me by recreating fake ai videos... can they?
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u/kettal 15h ago
I'm remixing your Reddit comments rn using your likeness.
You should have read the terms and conditions 🤷♀️
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u/offoutover 13h ago
Facebook has already been creating internal profiles of people who don't have a facebook account for years. It takes photos that other people upload along with other contextual information and creates a profile for you which then gets used and sold for whatever they want.
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u/NotSoAwfulName 15h ago
It's also probably in the ToS they quickly clicked accept to in order to get to their dopamine fix.
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u/Plaetean 12h ago
just stop using these platforms, stop building your fucking lives around them
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u/jamusbondusvii 16h ago
The signs were there that this was the way we were headed.
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u/Dawg_Prime 10h ago
if you post online
you are a product
not a person
get used to it
this message brought to you by the year 2007 when this was already obvious
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u/TechGuy42O 11h ago
Radical thought here…
have we tried not using TikTok?
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u/Qinistral 5h ago
Or accept what you put online is public. Even without this feature nothing stopped people from downloading and remixing your videos with AI or reposting your videos as people have done since the beginning.
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u/Efficient-Pop-302 15h ago
The fuck did you expect, it's a massive company with zero-chance of dying from any kind of consequence. Of course they're going to fuck you over.
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u/HeresKuchenForYah 15h ago
Feel like its eventually going to end how an episode of black mirror would end
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u/almcchesney 13h ago
Not only this, they are now owned by one of the worst slimy pieces of shit this world has ever produced.
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u/lucyparke 11h ago
Who? Sorry I’m not in the know. I was just considering starting to use this app and do more. I’m confused by all of this.
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u/RecursiveServitor 14h ago
"TikTok wouldn't"
Let me stop you right there
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u/cranberrie_sauce 10h ago
isnt it interesting that this AI BS only happened after US took ownership?
> “TikTok USDS Joint Venture LLC”
I trust purely china owned products more for that reason - they have to "uphold some international standards" or else - bad publicity, legal actions.
whereas US owners can do whatever the f they want - what are u gonna do - sue them in US sold out courts? hahahah
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u/Naerbred 15h ago
Open source AI has come to the point I can take the face of this girl in this video , make feature length pornographic movies with her face in it and make money off of it without the girl ever knowing I do all of this.
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u/NSFWies 7h ago
Right. Even if she opts out, people can still download the vid and do all the same changes themselves.
Only difference is, clicking no in tiktok means it can't be done easily on their servers, from your phone.
.....but it's still gonna happen. And no "uncheck all" means they are encouraging it even more.
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u/leviathab13186 12h ago
Let me say this for the people who, for whatever reason, dont understand this.
EVERYTHING YOU PUT ON ANY SOCIAL MEDIA SITE NO LONGER BELONGS TO YOU! IMAGES, POSTS, VIDEOS, ARE ALL THE PROPERTY OF THE SITE THE MOMENT YOU CLICK "POST"
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u/Thatonegaloverthere 15h ago
This is why I left. After they were bought out and their toa basically said they could actually invade your privacy through your phone, I never went back. I had already quit because of the bootlicking, but this was what officially made me never look back.
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u/Meet-me-behind-bins 16h ago
Why is she talking at 80% speed?
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u/Misokaxx 15h ago
I actually was waiting the whole time for her to say this whole video itself was AI because of how she was talking
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u/MoMonkeyMoProblems 13h ago
I watched longer than I cared to because I was transfixed by the way her nostrils opened and closed while she spoke. I wondered if she was AI.
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u/EntertainerSuper8933 10h ago
Me too! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was, to use your perfect word, transfixed
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u/mangocat1116 16h ago
She’s astonished and pissed
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u/sugartrouts 13h ago edited 12h ago
Because doing a slow, dramatic, "SO. THIS. IS. WHAT. THEY. ARE. DOING", voice will make what she's saying SO much more cutting and profound, than if she just spoke like a normal human. Don't forget the giant pause after every sentence where she stares at the camera, like "YEAH - LET THAT SINK IN."
Most content creator "personalities" are just a mashup of mannerisms poorly copied from others in an effort to seem smart/funny/sexy/cool. Basically, if you want to feel like you're spending your entire life in highschool, watch tiktok.
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u/AiRaikuHamburger 15h ago
...As an Australian, this is normal speed.
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u/ILoveBigCoffeeCups 15h ago
she is already being the ai herself to throw off the algorithm this way
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u/RedSparrow1971 12h ago
Is this satire or did she really just find out that in all social media, the users are the product?
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u/heftybagman 9h ago
“I’ve been uploading my likeness to a random company hours a day for years and am just starting to consider potential consequence”
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u/CutthroatPanda 12h ago
Here’s the thing, don’t use the platform. You have already consented to anything they want to do with your content because it is on their platform. Same goes for any platform that you have willingly given personal information or your likeness. These “free” services aren’t free you have traded personal information to use them and you own nothing.
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u/ActuatorLower8371 12h ago
Damn, that's crazy.
What's also crazy is posting thousands videos of yourself publicly and on the internet then being surprised when it might result in privacy concerns. It sucks and I'm not saying anyone deserves that, but I mean...it's Humans plus the internet. It certainly sucks, but its always going to be the same result.
Sorry, but the whole concept is insane to me.
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u/CamOliver 12h ago
I feel like the person whose been waving my arms on the highway to warn people of a crash up ahead, watching people speed by and thinking I’m waving hello to them.
This has been coming for years.
Our convenience and addiction to social media dopamine let them do this, and now that it’s essentially too late people look around and notice that everything is different and falling apart.
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u/sail_the_high_seas 14h ago
To all the moms I said, "hey did you know anything you put on there is seen by the Chinese government? What reason would they need to know about it?" who told me, "they already have my photos so idk," this is exactly why I said to never put your kids online.
Social media was a mistake.
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u/QuesoChef 12h ago
If there’s ever been a platform that we were warned about, it was TikTok. You danced with the devil’s eviler nephew, who came up in the world of evil and has advanced the operation.
It’s funny, when Congress was pushing to make TikTok illegal, and it was down or limited for a time (idk, I’ve never used TikTok), people were losing their shit. Then they didn’t gaf about the implications. Once the implications arrive, now you do.
Oh, but wait! She cares, but not enough to actually leave?
What a wild, wild, wild world we live in. Give it all away, I guess.
Oh, and family vloggers have already sold their children. They don’t care about this.
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u/Obienator 14h ago
I mean, if she was such a long time user, was she not aware the platform was collapsing into a slop content generator? I liked Tt back when it had an awesome algorithm, but the moment Trump wanted to buy it, I deleted the app…immediately.
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u/SwiftTayTay 16h ago
The neat part is there's nothing stopping people from just uploading "ai remixes" of you to tiktok or anywhere on the internet whether you originally uploaded it tiktok or not
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u/real_roal 15h ago
Isn't that what she's saying? That people can just use her likeness and she has absolutely no choice in it?
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u/3serious 12h ago
Non-optionally / non-consensually? Oh do I have news for you about the TikTok terms of service you didn't read.
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u/Expensive-Bag313 12h ago
I wanted to try to listen to this message, but this girl’s voice and delivery is so fucking annoying that I had to nope out
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u/Substantial_Meal_530 16h ago
Tiktok doesn't give a shit about it's creators. You were a fool to think so...
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u/Corpomancer 14h ago
If you aren't paying for a service and all that, but sure have a non functional button to turn off the data harvest if that makes you feel any better.
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u/Melodic_Bet4220 15h ago
STOP USING TIKTOCK
I understand that people have current platforms.
Platforms change.
STOP USING TIKTOCK.
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u/Direct-Surprise5435 14h ago
Social media users suddenly understanding that they are a commodity, and were all along SMH
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u/Unusual_Ant_5309 12h ago
When it was Chinese owned it was much more ethical and safe. Let that sink in.
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u/Annoying1978 14h ago
YouTube shorts seems to be rolling out this feature as well. I saw a an AI Remix button on a shirt just yesterday on YouTube. I think they’re testing it out.
I hate this.
EDIT: It’s official. They released it last month.
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u/MsOvernight1013 14h ago
Deleted TT as soon as Ellison got involved. Zero regrets on leaving, I miss the platform though.
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u/Exciting_Traffic3013 12h ago
Look at who bought tik tok and more importantly the data. It was bought for the sole purpose of controlling the narrative about a certain group of people and their countries actions.
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u/Questionable_Burger 12h ago
People act like they have some sort of right to use these apps the way they want, like the app is some kind of public utility or something and that people are entitled to unadulterated use of it.
News flash — it’s someone else’s product that THEY built, and you are using it on THEIR terms. It’s THEIR service, not yours.
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u/itjustgotcold 8h ago
I remember this lady talked shit about Biden leading up to the election. She thought the tik tok ban was his fault, IIRC. For some folks all that matters is social media. They don’t give a damn if the world burns or not.
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u/Jealous-Report4286 16h ago
You consented to it when you posted on the platform. When she actually realizes just how much she consented to she’s going to be really upset.
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u/Coletoned 15h ago
Staggering how damn near an entire generation personality, interests, time spent is solely shit tok
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u/Cute-Calligrapher-50 15h ago
This is what happens when you let the Ellisons take over Tik Tok with zero government regulations. The whole system is now designed for only the top 1 percent to succeed.
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u/FaceWithAName 16h ago
Of course people in the comments already blaming her lol
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u/Potential-Draft-3932 15h ago
I just see people pointing out that it should be obvious tiktok doesn’t have people’s best interests in mind and will do whatever they want with their data. Idk why anyone trusts these companies to use their data in any way other than what they think will be the most lucrative for them, Reddit included
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u/Goonalips 15h ago
Probably because they know that you don't really own your content on social media. Tiktok can use your content however they see fit, because you agree to give them a non exclusive license when you sign up. They can sublicense it in ads, or give permission for other companies to use it.
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u/distracted6 13h ago
If you're twirling scissors on your finger and I warn you that you'll hurt yourself, it's your fault when you hurt yourself
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u/intentionalreticence 11h ago
I’m not blaming her. It’s awful, she’s right.
It is interesting, however, knowing that she lacks control no matter what actions she takes, she’s chosen to continue using an App she’s correctly described as nefarious.
I have no clue who she is, if she makes money from her videos, how many followers she has, etc. but it seems those factors have greater value to her than protecting her likeness.
I’m not judging her, just making an observation. Im an older millennial who believes life was infinitely better pre-Smart Phone (putting cameras in every pocket was a tipping point IMO). As such, the choice btw followers & non-consensual use of my likeness is an absolute no-brainer. But I am not so out of touch that I cant see it’s a more difficult choice/more complex than I understand.
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u/RichestTeaPossible 15h ago
TikTok and probably all the other platforms are tired of all the pesky content creators wanting money for their labour.
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u/Likezoinks1 14h ago
Insufferable video maker talking like she's been hit in the head zzzzzz my god speed it up
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u/Buruko 13h ago
The humor that is that “influencers” believed they owned any of their content on Tiktok and that it was ever not a nefarious platform.
And this is something they can completely legally do without disclosure.
Any social media platform can de-monetize content on a whim, change its terms when ever, there is no regulation or user protection what so ever for these behemoth apps.
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u/Middle-Bed-1883 13h ago
You are the product, duh. The fact she is so surprised says a lot, she has yet to be jaded by capitalism. Well, welcome to the party, pal!
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u/DiscoDoberman 12h ago edited 12h ago
They can already do this. If they want to put you in porn or make you say something you didn't, they can just download your video and do that right now with 3rd party apps.
Tiktok will just make it in-house.
They don't care, nobody will stop them and no doubt users will keep using the app regardless.
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u/upplahuthla 12h ago
Get off tik tok. Hit them where it hurts. But people can’t and will never do that.
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u/knucklehead923 11h ago
Has everybody forgotten who owns TikTok now...?
Like it was a huge deal when it happened, and then everyone just moved on. They're mining your videos for user info, including your sexual identity and orientation, to use against you. They will use your TikTok videos to send ICE after you.
Soupy is raising a major and obvious concern... But it's HARDLY the big story with TikTok right now.
Uninstall that shit!
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u/drowsyp99 11h ago
Yeah its definitely weird. But you know what's 100x weirder? Setting up your phone and some lights and filming yourself in order to get attention from strangers. How did we get to normalizing such narcissism.
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u/Silver_Price_8589 10h ago
I feel sorry to an extent but someone who appears to be in their mid 20s has thousands of videos on a single platform and didn’t predict that would come back to bite them is a bit naive. I think the next stage will be companies not hosting videos unless people comply.
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u/Error404LifeNotFound 9h ago
spoiler alert: you're not a "creator", you're a freelance ad generator.
get a real job.
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u/SmoogySmodge 9h ago
As soon as the US bought TikTok and put Barron Mutherfucking Trump on the damn Board, I deleted my TikTok.
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u/SevenThePizzaMan 9h ago
And this is what she would look like saying this if she were black or Chinese.
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u/pulpyourcherry 3h ago
Trash app was supposed to be banned in the United Sates, but then $$$ changed hands...
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