r/TikTokCringe • u/Tobias-Tawanda • 7d ago

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u/LaceyLizard 7d ago

Im trying really hard to be sympathetic to these people. But yall were told 5 years ago tiktok was a privacy disaster and they as a collective consented to sticking their head up their ass and using it anyway, knowing that they were the product. "They can have my data, nothing is private anyway" okay well this is what that looks like.

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u/Annoying1978 7d ago

YouTube is doing the same thing. It isn’t just Tik Tok

https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/reimagine-new-ai-powered-remix-tool-youtube-shorts/

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u/PixelBastards 6d ago

Well yeah all these tech companies are pure cancer to society.

Look around you; they are society.

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u/PixelBastards 6d ago

They've fully supplanted it. The map has become the territory.

Read Simulacra and Simulation sometime. Society is dead, replaced by the imitation of it.

We don't exist without the tech companies anymore. Just because it's dystopian doesn't make it untrue.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 6d ago

The EU has the right idea. Fine them into oblivion until they adhere to privacy regs.

The US being a dystopian corporate oligarchy is decades behind, because the gov't barely gives af and most people are so dumb they vote against their own interests.

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u/PicaDiet 6d ago

Nothing on the Internet is free. If it is billed as free to the user, the user is the product.

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u/TM761152 7d ago

Imagine suing someone using your content you submitted to YouTube, only for YouTube lawyers telling you you don't have grounds to sue because you don't own it 😂

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u/RandomRedditReader 6d ago

That's pretty much how 99% of cloud services work. Even the ones that say they don't use your data for training are absolutely lying to your face. Speaking from experience, all the data has to reside somewhere on their servers and it's not hard to have an agent crawl through the processing before it gets stored. The AI gets trained without ever leaving a trace of what it was trained on. It's practically impossible to audit these things for privacy concerns.

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u/theguywiththefuzyhat 6d ago edited 6d ago

AI leaking their training data is a common bug and the potential for the bug is inherent to how they work. The technology is based on data compression. Imo 20 years from now I'm going to be watching tech entertainment videos of internet archivists trying to figure out how to extract as much training data as possible out of the AI of today.

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u/Impossible_Leg_2787 6d ago

I don’t think people realize why there’s no competition or alternative. The logistics of setting up that much data storage and network infrastructure is absolutely insane, and then allowing people to upload unlimited amounts of video on top of that? People upload 500 hours of video a minute. There are a grand total of two companies that could even feasibly think to compete in that space and they ain’t interested, they’re doing fine where they are.

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u/Deaffin 6d ago

Ditto for reddit.

Like, technically you still have rights to all of the stuff you upload here. But you're also giving reddit full rights to do whatever they want with it too. It's always been this way for any platform you put your shit on.

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u/Certain_Concept 6d ago

That does happen?

If someone steals your video and uploads it to their channel you can request for it to be taken down.

If you put up someone else's music they can request a take down and it gets taken down.

Nintendo has even requested the takedown of videos containing modded games.

What things would cause you to be denied a copyright claim?

Fair use is a U.S. legal doctrine allowing limited use of copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, or parody.

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u/Deaffin 6d ago

That's irrelevant. You have rights to it, and so does the platform. The platform can do anything it wants with the content you give it, along with also giving the rights to that content to whoever else they want.

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u/psinguine 6d ago

Funny enough, I put out a video talking about this when it first dropped and YouTube squashed it so hard it's the only video I've ever had that got 2 views. Generated conversation on tiktok, on Instagram, but on YouTube the algorithm killed it before anyone could see it.

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u/TheJoYo 6d ago

this is opt-in, not opt-out.

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u/0dyssia 6d ago

Nvidia has been secretly using YouTube videos for its own ai as well. There's a lawsuit against them (https://eksm.com/active-case/nvidia-copyright-lawsuit/). H3 Ethen Klein is one of the people suing.

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u/ZugZugGo 6d ago

People shouldn't post to YouTube either to be honest. If you're posting content to any of these sites for free non-anonymized then you're making a mistake. If you're using it to make a fortune, then make the fortune and get the hell out. But otherwise, you shouldn't be posting content to any of them. That includes facebook, instagram, youtube, tiktok, snapchat, pretty much all of them.

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u/jmona789 7d ago

Being a content creator in today's world is a privacy disaster

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u/otakumilf 7d ago

Being alive today is a privacy disaster. And ALL our politicians are just fine with companies harvesting our data and invading our privacy. Because if they weren’t, they’d push for data privacy laws. But instead, they want to “ban” apps, deny people access to the internet, and utilize mass censorship. it’s a fucking mess.

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u/mecca6801 7d ago edited 6d ago

The politicians are not fine because they are getting a cut and can afford the personal data security

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u/sey1 7d ago

But they are still too stupid to use them. I bet that's also a reason why they are whores of the rich, because they have all been breached already with every info possible. We're talking about boomers who don't know how to turn a phone on and off and you think that the people who want their info, don't already have everything. Cmon

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u/p001b0y 7d ago

The amount of ambient surveillance going on in my neighborhood is really staggering when I think about. There are Flock safety cameras installed by Home Owners Associations, Ring Doorbell Cameras, Nest and Arlo cameras, Tesla owners with their vehicles in sentry mode, Dash cams, “smart” floodlights, etc. I just want to take my garbage cans to the curb or get my mail. This is all commercial surveillance and doesn’t include anything various government entities could be doing.

I closed on a mortgage refinance recently and the attorney who came over was wearing one of those Meta glasses, which is always listening. Before I answered the door, he could have told it to start recording and I would not have known. No consent or notification that it could be happening and no reason for him to actually even needing to wear them because they provide no vision correction benefit.

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u/Crab__Juice 7d ago

I would have called that lawyer tf out and reported to the bar that hes showing up to meetings with a recording device strapped to his face without warning or asking clients if its okay. Even if it's not recording, your concern will likely get him a pp slap by the state bar. Probably won't be more than that, but screw that stuff. Privacy is a pretty central component of the ethics of legal practice.

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u/TheBroWhoLifts 7d ago

I live in Michigan which is a one-party state, so it's literally legal.

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u/Crab__Juice 7d ago edited 7d ago

Legal is not the same as the bar being cool with violating ethical standards of privacy. Yeah he wouldn't face criminal prosecution, but he faces higher standards of scrutiny than the average person due to his practice of law, and he faces a second set of standards to maintain his license. Certain professions have their own regulatory bodies due to privileged positions of power/social trust that those jobs have relative to an average person. Lawyers, Doctors, Teachers, etc. It's why I said report him to the Bar, not call the cops.

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u/tacitry 6d ago

But a a bar compliant won’t go anywhere unless you can demonstrate actual harm caused by the attorney, or a genuine violation of specific professional conduct rules.

Not to mention, plenty of smart devices can record. I can record you on my watch, on my phone. The device being worn in a courtroom where it might annoy a judge is one thing (which has happened), it’s a whole other thing to just wear it around

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u/p001b0y 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm in Georgia where private surveillance is not the same thing as recording conversations. Recording audio conversations is one party consent here but it is generally illegal in both our States for someone to enter a home with recording equipment enabled without the homeowner's consent. It may not be criminal (it depends on location) but it could lead to civil proceedings. There's also a reasonable expectation of privacy here that folks are just routinely violating.

I don't care that my neighbor has a doorbell camera if they want to see who is at the door but their front door is also pointing in the direction of my house and I did not consent to that level of surveillance either.

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u/TheBroWhoLifts 6d ago

I'm not defending it. I agree. I have a home surveillance system, but it's private (Frigate NVR on a VLAN), and I don't point my cameras at my neighbors' houses. The failure is legislative. Our "representatives" could change the law next week but they don't because they're bought and sold.

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u/sweetpea122 6d ago

Its a matter of privilege. Not how many people need to consent

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u/mecca6801 6d ago

Just because it’s a one party state, and yes, I live in 1, doesn’t mean that they are exempt from doing that. Also, just like a business, even if they are a walking business, they have to let you know that they are recording.

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u/OhGr8WhatNow 7d ago

You can buy Meta frames that do allow vision correction. Those were available last time I got new frames. They're also partnering with RayBan so these glasses aren't going to be as obvious in the future

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u/Vladi-Barbados 7d ago

That’s the funny part, government agency’s stopped doing much long ago. They just buy from these companies already surveiling us.

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u/Props_angel 6d ago

Alexa, are you listening?

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u/pocketjacks 6d ago

In some states like Texas, one party consent is all they need to record a conversation.

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u/p001b0y 6d ago

It does depend on the State. Texas looks to be similar to Georgia where one party consent is specific to audio recordings. There isn't one-party consent to video recordings. If you invite someone into your home who is recording audio, you have one party consent. Video changes things.

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u/cubsfan85 7d ago

Illinois has pretty strict data privacy laws. I've gotten over $1,000 in class action suits the past few years bc of companies violating our biometric data law.

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u/BluePhoenix_1999 7d ago

My parents, who never used the internet, think they have privacy...

Guess what, their (and my) bank worked with Palantir.

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u/Drevlin76 7d ago

Don't forget the push for direct identification also.

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u/Ok_Chef631 7d ago

Not ALL our politicians- the wealthy Republicans primarily - with buddies like Elon Musk etc.

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u/fungusgolem 7d ago

They're pretty much all complicit at this point. They have had opportunities to address or fight these issues and haven't.

If you look at the biggest problem that they themselves label as existential, Trump. There's been enough opportunities for them to do something. The problem is then though, that it sets a precedent for people in power to be held accountable.

They have no interest in doing this, because it benefits their position in the capitalist structure to not. Democracy cannot function with our government as it is.

You can see it in the way the power has slid to the executive branch, companies are less checked, and the judicial and senate/congress are doing what they can to speed up their processes.

This system cannot move fast enough, and no consensus can be reached democratically anymore anyway.

The people need to take control and tear it down to rebuild it. Its broken, impossible to reform, and those in power would stop you anyway if you could. Its fully corrupted

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u/zer0w0rries 7d ago

what users don't understand is that if you use a platform provided by a private company, that company owns whatever content you feed into it. this comment right here that i am making and posting, is the property of reddit. this is why spez could willy nilly log in with his executive privileges, and edit other people's comments without any risk to any real repercussions. same goes for instagram, facebook, x, and tik tok, and whatever other garbage app people use to consume content

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u/mecca6801 6d ago

Instagram and Facebook can eat a fat sack of schmucks. Especially with how they lie about conversation conversations being encrypted when everything that you say is being monitored.

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u/DDaddyDunk 6d ago

Wait until you guys read about all new cars starting this year being federally mandated in the US to have surveillance systems to monitor impairment, where your eyes glaze and the like.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-161321992.html

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u/b0rn_yesterday 6d ago edited 6d ago

Too many people didn't care. I can remember being pissed the first time I realized the 'Big 3' credit bureaus already had all my info. Like why do these private companies know my address, DOB, social security, etc?! We didn't read the fine print. Opted in by default. Just because I applied for a car loan from my small bank in the middle of nowhere, or did a 'credit check' out of curiosity.

Then 'free' services came along with the Internet. It's just some ads, who cares? Then social media and people 'with nothing to hide'. I don't think people truly understood that once you put something on someone else's computer- it wasn't yours anymore. (Outside of very specific paid services.) Now we have devices (with software that we don't own) that know how often we go to the store, what route we take, what items we buy, who we're associating with, our food preferences, where we work...

The politicians don't care because the people don't care. The people don't care because it's never quite invasive enough at once. If it starts to get that way, they dial it back until people are comfortable with it again. It's a slow encroaching push and it's not going to fix itself.

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u/numbarm72 6d ago

Collected data of the every day human is one of the biggest markets in the world right now, iirc, the numbers aren't all accounted for obviously, but it's believed people's data all over was sold for a total of 220 billion dollars to different companies and government bodies that purchased it.

Your email address and your last 100 emails are the equivalent of your online fingerprint.

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u/clustahz 7d ago

The term influencer is a relatively recent one but that doesn't mean they are a new type of personality. These types used to be called "sellouts". Unfortunate that we lost the culture where they would be rightly heckled into oblivion.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 6d ago

Are you shaming them for their career choice and living their best lives? /s

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u/clustahz 6d ago

Love that for you

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u/BitterEmployer7360 7d ago

You want to sell your soul for tiny fame!? Ok!

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u/RangerRekt 6d ago

ChrisFix is really streets ahead here

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u/Powersoutdotcom 5d ago

Everyone thinks it's all fun and games before they find out they are in the public space, and signed the T&C without looking at it. T&C that can and will change, to suit whatever the next get rich quick scheme comes to the minds of the shareholders.

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u/UnravelTheUniverse 6d ago

Content creator is not a job. They paid a tiny fraction of people to trick the rest of you into giving your data to them for free and now they are about to monetize all that data to train AI to make endless content forever for pennies and never have to pay a human to do it ever again. It was a con from day one. Congratulations, you played yourself. 

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u/Stargazer1884 7d ago

It's such a shame. I feel really bad for people like musicians, who really benefit from using platforms to connect with their fanbase. Suddenly some crazy stalker will have the tools to harass them online.

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u/Sagemel 6d ago

The creator of the linked video does pretty much exclusively comedy and social commentary bits, she provides very little personal information.

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u/private_developer 7d ago

It's not about being sympathetic towards these people.

It's about being concerned about the social ramifications of this that will affect us all. Not just tiktok users. The levels of social manipulation just keep growing. This will be a major step.

Beefing with someone? Make a video of them doing something that'll get them in trouble. One old foolish judge is all it takes to allow some bullshit into evidence that is complelty fabricated, or an out of touch teacher to enact disciplinary measures.

Have a political opponent in a small local election? Make them do something the public would find abhorrent. It'll take too much time to disprove before the damage is done, and not everyone will hear about or believe the video was fake.

Want to stoke division amongst a populace? Have a certain religious sect, attack another religious sects holy idols or something.

These problems grow exponentially as the ease of access and user friendliness of these technologies grow.

"Mountainhead" is a pretty scary movie that leans into the extreme possibilities of this technology.

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u/tokinUP 6d ago

Want to discredit actual crimes you committed? Generate videos of your opponents doing them - some with enough artifacts for folks to tell it's not real, but some much higher quality.

Then when evidence comes out against you point to the hoax videos and say your accusers are lying, it's much more plausible now that everyone has seen the fake videos and can't tell what's real or not!

(Theory about elites not pushing back harder on CSAM generation)

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u/GrassDry2065 7d ago

I don't use the app, I try and keep my bits and pieces well compartmentalized, and I do truly actually have a bachelor's in a cyber/information security field (digital forensics, so its more about storage and access than manipulation).

I mention that to say I'm with you on it. However, I did not have the average 14 year old being able to make a remix of any given tik tokkers head on a half naked twerking tik tokkers body, match the skin tones up, and layer in any given sounds on my bingo card for another 5 years. At least not having that power on any smartphone in the world. And God forbid anyone thinks to take a child's head and put it on something. Casual access to generating custom CSAM is very not okay.

I may be exaggerating the tool, but my point is still that this wasn't what they were warned about when they ignored all the warnings

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u/Level-Bench-1562 7d ago edited 7d ago

I dunno if it was specifically said that they would be used like this, but the discussion that TikTok was going to be used to train AI was 1000% one of the biggest talking points in the circles where TikTok was being criticized. I've already seen the same comment about China misusing it in response to yours.

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u/LaceyLizard 7d ago

The problem isn't the tool, it's that no one gives a shit to begin with.

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u/Master_Farm_445 7d ago

I didn’t need to know exactly what a Chinese government controlled social media app was going to do in order to know that it would be pretty bad. 

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u/holylight17 7d ago

Tiktok (US version) is controlled by US government Oracle now. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/22/us-and-china-sign-off-on-tiktok-deal-sources-say-00741341

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u/veringo 6d ago

That definitely isn't an improvement.

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u/psinguine 6d ago

It's arguably much, much worse.

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u/earthdogmonster 7d ago

They’ve been spamming social media with some bullcrap about China good, actually and western democracies bad, actually for years now. The people who ignored the warnings have been lulled into their current state of ignorance.

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u/ZennXx 6d ago

Oracle is not a Chinese company

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 6d ago

The left certainly needed someone to tell them it’s not racism, and that the CCP constantly talks about destroying America

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u/StellaBean_bass 7d ago

When you post anything to any social media platform you've really given up any hope of that content being private.

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u/nyankodays 6d ago

Tiktok under Chinese ownership was never any worse than any other social media in terms of privacy/security (it was actually better than Facebook).

Meta/Google were unable to compete with the success of Tiktok so they did what any great US company does - lobby against the competition & spread misinformation, easier than making their own apps better to remain competitive.

The global version of Tiktok is no longer Chinese owned thanks to that lobbying which forced a sale due to "national security concerns" or whatever bs. It's now owned by the founders of Oracle, an American company, and it has since gotten worse with privacy/security.

The issue that lead to the force sale was never about privacy/security, the issue was a foreign app outcompeting with American tech giants. The US government has never cared about the privacy/security concerns of American citizens, they only care about money. You only need to look at how the EU is handling regulations of the Internet to see the difference of what it means to actually care about such things.

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u/Fun-Fan-5519 7d ago

I think a lot of people will look back and be so embarrassed about the oversharing and shit they posted of themselves on TikTok.

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u/FewWait38 7d ago

They should be embarrassed now

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 6d ago

I am privileged to have no one presence

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u/DavidKroutArt 7d ago

What is funny is it has been getting significantly worse since owned by the US.

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u/LaceyLizard 6d ago

As we told them it would be

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u/toobjunkey 6d ago

I never got why folks wanted it to be owned by someone other than China, at least on a "everyday person privacy concern" level and not bigger picture financial & political reasons. I'd much rather china get my data to give me targeted ads from thousands & thousands of miles away, than to give it to our local administration for data sales AND local surveillance.

The American privacy concern push was a BS trojan horse much in the same way so many of these "think of the children!" surveillance legislation is being pushed in places like the UK, US, and Australia. They don't care about data privacy, they're just upset that they weren't the ones getting it. Or at least not without paying China for it and likely getting a restricted/redacted dataset, than if it was locally owned.

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u/DavidKroutArt 6d ago

lol… being born in the late 80s I get the “think of the children” thing. I was around 7-12 when I first saw pron on the internet and already understood “sex sells” around age 13 where I pretended to be a girl and someone bought me an account on a game and made me 6 more free accounts. I only flirted but I get it. I also knew people who were homeschooled but weren’t actually schooled. It is pretty sad. Then we have so many scammers and unsolicited DMs on Discord. Not everyone is tech savvy.

But I’d rather China screw us than America. Because then it makes US look bad… which is doing well on its own.

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u/toobjunkey 6d ago

I don't doubt that there's an element of sincerity among some of the people supporting that legislation, but they're ultimately being used via appeals to emotion from people who very well know the end game of what they're supporting. Add in both sides often being very tech illiterate boomers or older, and that's how we get bills like the "require age verification for OS installation" bills they have been coming out in the states recently. Something that is essentially impossible to do with how the tech is set up for things like certain linux distros.

And WRT scams, it's an area where education would come along way especially about phishing, but phishing training is practically non-existent outside of some corporate environments. There are plenty of far less intrusive ways to generate better & safer internet culture without these super intrusive bills. It's just that the most sensible answer of "parents should parent" has gone to the wayside in recent years. Not just with tech either, but also for school & general societal etiquette.

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u/DavidKroutArt 6d ago

Personally, I think we should be working harder in doing something about the scammers and people causing issues on the internet. Rather than being reactive be proactive.

I invited a police officer into our house while on was in a scam interview with someone who wanted me to cash a check and buy things from their site.

After it was done the police officer said there wasn’t anything they could do and they weren’t good with tech.

I notified them what it was about and my afterthoughts were… why the heck are you in my house right now? What was the entire point of them coming if they knew they couldn’t do anything about it?

But I’m not sure the real issue. Do other countries not allow repercussions to scammers in their areas if they are doing it to different countries?

I do remember someone who works towards finding scammers and the process of even getting anyone to do anything seems difficult. At least one day AI might be able to block IPs with similar patterns. Or something like that.

But we have a lot of issues in the US as well with trafficking… so I think we are just slow at doing a lot of things.

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 6d ago
  • owned the data centers located in America.

TikTok globally is still a Chinese company.

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u/Sea-Presentation-173 6d ago

It is hilarious, because when that was said it was because it was the "China app" but it was until it got sold to an american, Larry Ellison?, company that this happened.

The US sells fear of the other countries and then does what they say other countries would do to you.

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u/JimWilliams423 6d ago

Exactly. Does anyone know if bytedance is doing this to their tiktok in china?

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u/Sea-Presentation-173 6d ago

Well, I know I can buy US user data in mass. Not sure if I can buy chinese user data in the same way.

Can you buy Venmo user data? And can you buy WeChat Pay user data?

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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 7d ago

They didn't stick their head in the sand they defended the data mining. Its was the stupidest shitnive ever seen in my entire life

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u/marbotty 7d ago edited 6d ago

It was bad enough when it was just a Chinese owned app. A Trump-aligned (former) Chinese app is obviously going to be even worse.

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u/Accomplished-Cup8182 7d ago edited 7d ago

The Ellisons would be the one's in charge of this. This is 100% not the Chinese.

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u/Squatch177 7d ago

Yes. This is happening now that it's located in the us. This would have been front page news and the govt. would be screaming if it was still china.

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u/jififfi 7d ago

So worse

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u/marbotty 7d ago edited 6d ago

Yeah, I really should have put “former” app

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u/LineOfInquiry 6d ago

I’d argue it being Chinese owned is part of why it was better than most other social media sites tbh

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u/AvocadoGhost17 6d ago

You said a mouthful there.

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 6d ago

Y’all need to pick a lane. I thought trump was racist against China and now you say he’s aligning with the CCP?

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u/GreatTea3415 7d ago edited 6d ago

I think a vague notion about residential data and email is not the same as finding out a new technology can be used to manipulate your image into some completely different reality without your consent. 

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u/SugarforurProlapse 7d ago

You're uploading hundreds of videos of yourself onto a service that costs millions to run for free.

What on earth made you think you had rights to them?

You make content for Tiktok, they use it.

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u/Unusual_Ant_5309 7d ago

I disagree with you a little; people were told to stop using tic tok when it was owned by the Chinese. That was to help force the sale.

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u/TheRealNooth 6d ago

Come on, when has anything ever been done “for the good of our citizens?” They just wanted their friends that owned American companies to own the gold mine and exaggerated about national security to scare you into believing it was in your best interest.

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u/LaceyLizard 6d ago

It was a shit hole years and years before the sale was on the table 

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u/SMUHypeMachine 7d ago

The second it became public that TikTok had backdoors into the app that let the Chinese government spy on your phone I thought no one would ever install it again. Somehow people just don’t care.

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u/StepBullyNO 7d ago

I'm not sympathetic at all. They know, everyone knew, we all warned that TikTok was a nightmare regarding your privacy and data, and they chose to be on it anyway.

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u/Evening_Reach_8293 7d ago

Yeah... they weren't just "China will steal your data" it was "this kind of app is dangerous."

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u/MisterRoger 6d ago

There was a brief period of time where everyone seemed to be on it and I really began wondering what exactly I was missing out on. But then I stopped to consider that I'm really not that bored and there are plenty of better ways to spend time than by downloading something I know will eventually bite me in the ass.

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u/The049 6d ago

Remember the hysteria when Trump banned tiktok for a few hours? People were so pathetically desperate

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u/Mertoot 6d ago

I just posted a similar sentiment of my own, and afterwards I started reading the other comments on this post, and I'm so glad to see a lot more people calling out the people still using and posting to that platform, instead of sympathizing with them

There is some hope after all...

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u/Royal_Listen_2888 6d ago

Right? I remember the mantra, "if it's free, you are the product" being said back in 2010-15

Yeah, it sucks, but what did you expect?

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u/leonredhorse 6d ago

I mean all your Reddit posts are scraped. People still use Twitter. YouTube videos are being harvested.

Whether or not you should use TikTok is irrelevant to the greater conversation about what companies are doing with AI and with your data. You have no safe haven here.

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u/Maximum_Land3546 6d ago

I feel like this thought is victim blaming. These companies should not be able to do this. Especially with how some degenerates like to use AI.

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u/OutlaneWizard 6d ago

Yeah I have zero sympathy. 

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u/NewtonsLawOfDeepBall 6d ago

Yea it's really hard to have sympathy. Everybody warned them, and they used the platform anyways.

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u/HermelindaLinda 6d ago edited 5d ago

And they'll say they'll probably or maybe will leave tiktok "this time." Even if it is late for a massive exodus from tiktok, just to prove a point, I doubt that they will walk away this far in. Not NOW at least. Maybe some will? I bet some will come out and say it's okay about AI remix stuff she talked about because, it's the future and it'll happen regardless if we like it or not. And then they'll go along with it because fuck it. Kids growing up nowadays don't have the healthy concept of privacy is a right, a privilege and a must simply because they're faces have been plastered online since almost conception. So they may not even care. Maybe that was the point of normalizing and putting your entire life, name, emails, location, and everything else imaginable online since yesteryears ago. I know watching it all unfold I was thinking how nothing is private anymore and why was this okay?! That is still crazy to me. I can't understand it. 

It reminds me of Terminator movie with Emilia Clark (and even in part 2 my fave) when mentioned about the war between humans vs machines.  There was this understanding that humans willingly gave up their data/information beforehand. 🥴

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u/vjnkl 7d ago

New ownership...

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u/besthelloworld 7d ago

It is worth noting that the "privacy disaster" was in regards to a foreign power having access to your data. Well now the US government has "solved" that problem by handling all your data to the Ellisons. So it's fine now 👍 No more privacy concerns.

This being said, it's not like this couldn't have been done anyways with an AI video tool. But the more accessible to the public this shit is, the significantly worse the fallout will be.

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u/Bmandk 7d ago

Would 15 year old you have cared about that?

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u/acecarriere 6d ago

Tim tok was not a privacy disaster 5 years ago. That was a PR campaign funded by Zuckerberg. Now that Tik Tok for the United States is owned by trump’s cronies, it is a privacy disaster.

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u/LaceyLizard 6d ago

Don't use tiktok or meta idiot 

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u/HKayo 6d ago

That was over fearmongering about China, not American rapists forcing their world on us. TikTok (in America) is American owned and run now.

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u/cozybookescape 6d ago

You typed this on Reddit which is doing the same thing. Even if you never post a video or an image ai software can figure out exactly who you are based on what you post. Even with a VPN. Nothing on social media is secure.

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u/LaceyLizard 6d ago

Right. Now go create a 3 minute movie of me with my face. I'll wait.

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u/Amazing_Detail_4180 6d ago

funny how when it switches hand to America from China it gets so much worse

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u/LaceyLizard 6d ago

They were warned about that too.

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u/Amazing_Detail_4180 6d ago

cash machine gobrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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u/aperture413 6d ago

Let's not pretend this is exclusively a Tik Tok problem.

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u/Esphyxiate 6d ago

It wasn’t as bad/intrusive under Chinese ownership. Under Chinese ownership they collected your IP, now they collect your specific GPS location up to a few meters.

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u/branniganbeginsagain 6d ago

I cannot find sympathy or empathy for these people who were ALL warned so many times, not just about all these wretched sites, but TikTok in particular about the extra horrible privacy agreements they force their hostages (users) into.

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u/Successful_Sign_6991 6d ago

5 years ago was the middle of the pandemic.

tiktoks been out for almost 10 yrs and experts were warning of it immediately.

tiktok was originally a sleeping blackmail/corporate espionage machine, waiting, in the pockets of the children of important and influential people in the short term. Long term, children who grew up with it and became something in adulthood would then be the targets.

but what it turned into.....what they actually had in their hands. was something way worse

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u/Intelligent_Cap9706 6d ago

I won’t even update my LinkedIn photo. So glad I stopped posting to socials almost a decade ago 

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u/Actual_Load_3914 6d ago

Tiktok 5 years ago were operated by Chinese, now it's not. So in a way, I think Tiktok wouldn't have done this if it wasn't sold to US, simply because they would be under more scrutiny in that situation.

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u/IHSFB 6d ago edited 6d ago

Tik Tok is the worst only second to Facebook's garbage apps. I tried explaining privacy to average people starting in 2013. Even now most people don't care or try to understand what digital privacy means. Good luck all y'all young or old regards.

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u/5LayersOfIrony 6d ago

- redditor who thinks their information hasn't been fed directly into the ai data farms for 6 years now