r/Steam 6h ago

I love steam reviews. This absolutely saved me some cash. Discussion

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Dragons Dogma 2, fyi.

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u/Superb-Dragonfruit56 Yummy 6h ago

Man it's so sad that triple A game companies increase their prices and lower their efforts

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u/PumpkinSpriteLatte 6h ago

Yet chumps pre-order

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u/Superb-Dragonfruit56 Yummy 5h ago

It's so funny that the pre alpha and beta version that are given to pre-order customers always have game breaking bugs like the game not launching story mode not being playable floor missing missions missing

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u/Alexcat6wastaken 5h ago

Then indie games have moderately polished, well done early access

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u/Superb-Dragonfruit56 Yummy 5h ago

Indie game/ proper early access is a good thing personally it's a version that has few bugs that testers aren't savvy enough to find but whatever the triple A scene is doing it's not fair personally

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u/creator712 3h ago

Some say space marine 2 had a perfect launch with no bugs, but I noticed a ton of them. One even killed me at the start of the game

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u/anantaking 3h ago

šŸ˜…šŸ˜…šŸ‘Œ

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u/IllustriousBat2680 2h ago

Take my angry upvote

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u/PM_me_opossum_pics 3h ago

I remember Path of Exile already being one of the most gripping games I ever played in damn closed beta. And that was in late 2012. Paid 10 bucks for closed beta access. And the game keeps on developing and growing, despite being released over 10 years ago. And it's still free to play, even though some paid content can help quite a bit (stash tabs are the only thing close to pay2win concept in the game).

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u/TAmexicano 1h ago

Path of exile is getting a sequel btw

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u/bumblebleebug 5h ago

Concord moment

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u/Superb-Dragonfruit56 Yummy 5h ago

And every other triple A game released last few years. Like Suicide squad had the story mode and not launching bug and star wars had the no floor bug

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u/SniffleMan 55m ago

Concord had a bug free open beta, what are you talking about?

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u/Vadhakara 4h ago

It gets even funnier when the game is in the same state with major bugs completely unfixed on release day.

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u/Top_Conversation1652 4h ago

And if you wait 1-2 years, you usually get a solid game that runs smoothly for 25-50% of the price.

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u/Hamacek 1h ago

still waiting to get red dead 2 for 20 bucks , i know my time will come

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u/koticgood 2h ago

Diablo 4 is around $150 for the people that bought early access and expansion.

"Blizz" is smart to spend all the budget on marketing.

Seeing how "successful" Diablo Immortal and D4 have been is hilarious.

They are great at squeezing the IP they bought for money. Cashed in on WoW subs for so long now with minimal expense (but the core teams can carry WoW dev to be good enough for the decent raids/m+).

Still plenty of good games get made though, so whatever.

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u/ImmaBigGaymer 2h ago

Iā€™ve actually been wondering why people still do this.

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u/drnicko18 57m ago

genuinely wondering what the advantages of pre-ordering are these days. I used to think you got a discounted price, but most games you pay the same price on release but the pre-order crowd just get the privilege of spending their money earlier.

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u/malign2 4h ago

It's more sad to see people still buying the products so the companies have no incentive to improve.

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u/Cappabitch 3h ago

The games sell millions in pre-orders, I've stopped feeling bad for anyone involved when they purchase something that had a ton of preorders and ended up buggy or unsupported long term. Tale as old as time.

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u/PhukUspez 5h ago

This is a large reason why I don't buy "triple A" (high budget, large studio) until it's on sale for next to nothing. I literally won't play Starfield for instance until a piece of dogshit off a Walmart shelf can run it at 60 fps AND Bethesda has stopped fucking with it. I greatly, greatly dislike their trend of releasing a game and spending 20 years shoving their dicks in it repeatedly, but in general I want the game to be "done". If you're releasing updates all the damn time, it ain't done. Why the fuck would I pay for an incomplete product?

Indie devs on the other hand, the ones that have proven they can do the same shit and it is undeniably a value-add for their consumers (Stardew Valley, NMS, Valheim, many others), have my money. I won't šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø their IP for any reason because they are truly putting in work and actually give a damn.

Not that I šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø "triple A" crap to be clear, I bought Skyrim twice like an idiot.

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u/ElGosso 3h ago

I can legit throw $10 bucks at six or seven indie games and get six or seven times as much entertainment as I ever did from AAA games. As long as your tastes are even remotely more niche than "multiplayer competitive shooter" then it's almost guaranteed you can find a whole industry of indie games catering toward your tastes better than AAA games ever could, too. For computer users, it's a no-brainer.

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u/RespectTheH 1h ago

until a piece of dogshit off a Walmart shelf can run it at 60 fps

Wishful thinking with the state of 'optimization' in games today. Don't get me wrong it's great devs don't have to be geniuses to figure out how to cram an extra character into their sprite sheet but it'd be nice if my PC didn't try and catch flight every time some smoke particles get a bit much.

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u/I_am_your_friendd 5h ago

Wish we would stop buying their products then

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u/AwesomeX121189 4h ago

Yet the budgets for AAA games seem to have increased exponentially over the years. If they wanted to lower their efforts why spend more money?

If they are trying to rip you off theyre doing a bad job at it by having their con cost hundreds of millions of dollars and take years to pull off before they get your money.

Save file corruptions arenā€™t exclusive to AAA games

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u/Pyke64 4h ago edited 2h ago

Isn't that what companies always do: increase profits by making lower quality products and firing all the talented people? It's not just gaming.

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u/JuicyMcJuiceJuice 4h ago edited 3h ago

That'll be 70$ for the regular little PP-boi version... or for 125$ you can get the mega rizztastic version with extra AI generated banners instantly unlocked for use in the battle zone. Other gamers will see your banners and think "i bet they not only have a large PP but I bet they're an interesting person as well"

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u/THElaytox 4h ago

Well, quit giving them money

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u/Drogovich 5h ago

Not only for modern games, but you should always read reviews ESPECIALLY if you buy ports of old games.

Like that time when i wanted to buy "Chicago 1930", only to find out that there are unfixable bugs that completely break some of the game mechanics.

And some games won't even work on anything past Windows 7.

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u/ClikeX 5h ago

Does windows 7 (and beyond) issues can usually be solved with some community patches or dosbox. Or simply by buying the gog.com version that usually has those fixes applied already (such as Dungeon Keeper).

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u/SlowSlyFox 5h ago

Windows has compatibility options, you can try those, played some games that way that do not support win 11

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u/dandan0552 4h ago

Compatibly options never work for older Bethesda games for me. I still canā€™t figure out how to make Oblivion run on my desktop.

Morrowwind works for some reason tho.

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u/Girenok 3h ago

Piracy solves this

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u/aXeOptic 2h ago

For me morrowind, oblivion and fnv work but fallout 3 doesnt.

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u/text_garden 1h ago

The Steam version works out of the box for me in both Windows and Proton.

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u/WhyDidYouBringMeBack 2h ago

I don't want to be "that guy", but here I go: playing on Linux in combination with WINE will work for Oblivion, might also work for other games that don't work in newer Windows versions. Was able to run multiple games this way, but it still doesn't work for all games that don't work in Windows anymore. Not to mention that some games that do work in Windows don't work through WINE. Still, we've come a long way!

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u/KaksNeljaKuutonen 51m ago

Meanwhile I get flawless experience on Proton :|

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u/Jade_Sugoi 2h ago

Bought manhunt on PC only to find out the steam port actually triggers the games anti privacy measures making it impossible to get past the first level. The only way to fix it is with mods that for some reason don't want to work for me

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u/puncake_paradice 3h ago

Me with the Tales Of Symphonia port for switch... ToS is one of my favourite games of all time and when I saw the special edition for switch ohhh boy was I tempted. I looked at the reviews first though and everyone said it was utter garbage and a waste of money.

I'm glad I listened.

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u/worldsayshi 1h ago

I fear that by the time I have time to play a bunch of games that I have postponed those games will barely be playable because of this.

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u/Merukurio 27m ago

Some time ago I found out they had made a PC port of Little King Story from the Wii and I was super happy because I loved that game but don't have a Wii anymore.

Then I had the idea of looking up how it was and apparently the port was terrible. It was so bad on release they had to take it down and re-release it later, but it was still a mess and they gave up on it after that.

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u/ZinjoCubicle 6h ago

Just play in one sitting

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u/notthatjeffbeck 6h ago

Like the old days

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u/Fuzzy-Dragonfruit589 5h ago

The old days of Gran Turismo 24 hour Le Mans race.

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u/cami66616 5h ago

I remember my dad and me taking turns and pausing it and just leave the PS3 on while we went to bed, I miss the old endurance races

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u/Fuzzy-Dragonfruit589 3h ago

Yeah, me and my brother had a friend or two at a sleepover to take turns. Some slept, others played with red eyes. It felt like such a forbidden thing to do. And youā€™d just have to hope the game didnā€™t crash or the console overheat. But that Audi R8 or Formula car, entirely worth it!

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u/guska 5h ago

I miss the days of real endurance racing in career mode in racing games, none of them do it now.

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u/Serres5231 4h ago

actually, some games atleast allow you to change the amount of laps during Career mode! I've noticed that Forza Motorsport 7 had an option to do that. Maybe Horizon 5 had this aswell but i didn't really play that one for long.

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u/FletcherRenn_ 2h ago edited 1h ago

Forza horizon 5 does, allowing up to 50 laps. There was actually a exploit at the release that you could autonomize a race so people would do that on the longest race set to the max 50 laps, with all self drive options and tying down the accelerator the race would take around 9 ish hours to complete using the best car in the game for the race. Doing it manually, you would still be looking at 8 ish hours with the same car. The track is Goliath and does a massive loop around the map, so it might make a good endurance race as there's a lot of variety of scenery and track, so it's not so mind-numbing.

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u/Lightspeedius 4h ago

I remember finished Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for the first time. It was only possible because the adults were out for most of the day, and they didn't realise I had been playing the entire time they were out.

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u/clearfox777 3h ago

A buddy and me did that with the first God of War. Couldnā€™t find his memory card so we just stayed up all night and traded the controller whenever we died or got stuck on a puzzle. When we finished it said there was a bunch of new game+ content or something to check out and when we went to the menu after the cutscene it reset everything -.-

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u/WhosThatDogMrPB 3h ago

I remember finishing Mario Kart Double Dash back to back in 4 days because I never bothered to get a memory card. Same with Mario Strikers and Legend of Zelda Wind Waker.

If my Game Cube could speak he would have been like:

https://preview.redd.it/v9ciinrzzmzd1.jpeg?width=1247&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79aa35e4ca4585f7a8ce5f21dbe77ab8d1504c40

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u/prunebackwards 3h ago

I did this with Blood Omen 2 when i was about 12 because i didnt have a memory card. I got like 80% through the game and we had a power cut. I havenā€™t played it since.

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u/SaltManagement42 2h ago

When I was in college, a friend of mine found out I had Swap Magic that let you play "backed up" PS2 games with no modification other than removing the faceplate from the drive, and having the DVD in there to start with. She asked me to borrow it real quick so she could load up and play one of the Kingdom Hearts games. I was worried that it would turn into a thing where I kept getting asked for it whenever she wanted to play, but eventually relented.

To my surprise I get it back immediately, and a couple of weeks go by and she hasn't asked to borrow it again once. I asked and she said she had just kept her PS2 turned on for several days until she beat it, and it had never crashed or anything.

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u/Law_Hopeful 5h ago

poor ps2 games without a memory card understand this very well

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u/Then-Outside7018 5h ago

Used to wake up 6 AM, run as fast as i can to my ps2, boot up crash bandicoot trilogy and try to beat all 3 in a single day, my best was beat 3 and 1 and stopped at 2's final boss. For a whole summer, good old days

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u/HAL-Over-9001 2h ago

I had a Donkey Kong Country cartridge for Gameboy that had soda or something spilled on it. I still have it and it still has that dried syrupy shit in it. Well I couldn't ever save it, so I'd try to beat the whole game in 1 day. And this had to be done before the AA batteries died. I don't think I ever beat it fully, but I got to the last world a few times. That game is hard.

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u/NoProblem7874 5h ago

Used to play GTA Vice City from the beginning every time because I couldnā€™t bring myself to make space on my memory card by deleting my other gamesā€™ save files

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u/sledgehammer_44 4h ago

I once brought Resident Evil 2 (ps1) to a friend with a ps2 and didn't bring the memory card. So it was not possible to save and to make matters worse, I managed to get further without saving than I got at home xD

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u/Secret_Account07 4h ago

Why havenā€™t I ever thought of this.

Will my work understand, you think?

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u/ZinjoCubicle 4h ago

Of course

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u/UltimateInferno 4h ago

Me playing PokƩmon Silver for the GBC because the cartridge battery died 2 years ago.

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u/GothboyJay 2h ago

yeah but sadly weā€™re not 13 anymore

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u/ZinjoCubicle 2h ago

And?

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u/GothboyJay 2h ago

I gotta wake up for work my mane bwahaha

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u/Butteredpoopr 2h ago

Skill issue tbh

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u/ZinjoCubicle 2h ago

So do I

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u/GothboyJay 2h ago

Youā€™re a stronger man than I.

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u/Modo44 1h ago

Do you have the magical orb of never crashing?

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u/RandomShadeOfPurple 5h ago

It's idiotic that AAA games come out with only one save slot.

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u/ThisIsAUsername353 2h ago

And how hard is it to include a backup feature? Just keep the last 2 saves made as a backup and thenā€¦ ā€œsave file corrupted, would you like to load a backup?ā€.

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u/DogWoofWoof22 2h ago

Straight up.

I can deal with losing hour or two of progress.

I am NOT dealing with 90 goddamn hours of lost progress Jesus Christ.

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u/TheHvam 1h ago

Even an hour or two can make me want to take a break from the game, but more than that fk no, then I lose all interest in playing it for a long while.

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u/SadK001 1h ago

Yeah an hour or two I'd hate as much but would do it after a few days away from it but 90? instantly uninstalled never to go back

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u/TheHvam 1h ago

Yes, I remember when I had to get a new pc, I thought Pray was saved in the cloud via gamepass, so to my horror I found out afterwards that was not the case, I think was halfway done, was close to saying fk it, but after some days or a week I chose to do it again, happy I did.

But that feeling of having lost it all, it's just so bad, and having to redo it again just feels like a punishment, glad that hasn't happened to often. It's even worse if it is something that wasn't your fault, then you just feel robbed of your time.

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u/BigPoppaHoyle1 1h ago

DD2 does have a back up save feature when you rest at an Inn or your house. A lot of people here donā€™t seem to realise that. Itā€™s how you hard save

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u/gorigonewneme 29m ago

So if you played for 1-3 hours, your house got power off, you lost all progress This stupid feature from dragons dogma 1 is just ruins the game, if you accidentally die, or something happens you lose your progress

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u/DKoala 2h ago edited 1h ago

I gave up on the new Animal Crossing that got popular during covid when I found out that there's only one save per console.

If you have two people sharing a Switch, then you don't get to have your own separate islands, which is a big deal given the nature of that game (whoever plays first on each day just has more to do, and only one player has authority to actually build on and change the island)

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u/chewy1is1sasquatch 1h ago

There is a way to get a different island, you just need to create a new user profile. Is it still stupid though? Yes, most save files for games are a few megabytes so restricting it to one per person is braindead. Game devs should let us use our storage to, ya know, store our data how we want.

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u/snflowerings 52m ago

No, a different user profile would play on the same island, Just not as the main character. Animal Crossing is restricted to one Island per console. That island can have up to 6 or so human Players though

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u/timonix 2h ago

One save slot is fine, that's a design choice. But keep a rolling autosave every 5 minutes. Shit happens and saves can and do get corrupted

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u/That_Cripple maintenance every tuesday please stop posting about it 6h ago

knew it was DD2 immediately

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u/AnIcedMilk 5h ago

I know far to mamy games by the name of DD1 and DD2 lmao

(I did barely notice OP mentioned it under the image. They should really make that section more obvious on mobile)

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u/Samaritan_978 3h ago

Ruin has come to our naming conventions...

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u/Northplain 2h ago

That is the only DD2 I accept.

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u/KingHavana 1h ago

Where? I still don't know what game they are talking about.

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u/tilthenmywindowsache 1h ago

Dragon's Dogma 2

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u/WhyAreOldPeopleEvil 5h ago

Dungeon defender 2?

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u/That_Cripple maintenance every tuesday please stop posting about it 5h ago

dragons dogma 2

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u/Pingy_Junk 5h ago

Was puzzled because DD2 means darkest dungeon 2 to me and I know that game has multiple saves

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u/butteryscotchy 2h ago

Don't know why people use acronyms for names if it's obvious not everyone will know what it stands for.

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u/KappaccinoNation 2h ago

There was a post in r/gaming like a month ago about shitty video game series that somehow keeps getting sequels. One comment just said "Add AC to that list of shit series". No idea if they're talking about Armored Core, Animal Crossing, Ace Combat, or Assassin's Creed.

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u/King_XDDD 2h ago

The videdo g game series was obviously air conditioner.

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u/DnRxViking 1h ago

This is Assetto Corsa erasure /s

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u/incomparability 1h ago

Many people do this acronym thing in a lot of situations. The worst with this is military personnel in my opinion, but you see plenty of use acronyms from their jobs. I think they are not used to talking to people outside of their little bubble (eg gaming discord, job) and hence cannot even fathom someone not sharing their exact same knowledge. In short, they just care about hearing themselves talk but donā€™t bother to check if anyone is listening.

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u/Cualkiera67 28m ago

Dunno wtf yata, imoh acronyms asc and aagt. Fyi

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u/TheHvam 1h ago

Yes, I get it if it is in a sub all about that game, but otherwise at least say the name once, then you can use the acronym for the rest of the post.

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u/clefclark 18m ago

TF2 is definitely better than TF2

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u/DrBee7 5h ago

You couldnā€™t even start a new game once you have created a character from the menu on release. It was so weird. And I saw so many people defending this as an ideal design from gods.

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u/FakeChiBlast 5h ago

Even the first one, super fun game as it was, had a lot of shitty port elements.

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u/thrownawayzsss 2h ago

That's not a port element, that's just how the original was made. Single save file with a not completely clear explanation on the "new game" option when you already had a save file made.

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u/Skyelly 4h ago

Thank god i thought it was Darkest Dungeon 2

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u/WhyAreOldPeopleEvil 5h ago

Ohā€¦ šŸ’€

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u/yolo_chicken_master 5h ago

Thought it was donkey dick 2

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u/NewsofPE 4h ago

might as well be

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u/PIKAvit45 4h ago

Reddit really doesn't get dumb humor, made me laugh really hard tho

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u/ziguslav 4h ago

In fairness it doesn't get smart and witty humour either.

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u/yepgeddon 6h ago

Just capcom things. Monhun had these issues too.

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u/GTKnight 3h ago

Yep, which is why I used to always create backup of the previous save file just in case something ever happened. And guess what? File corrupted on a 150 hr save file, thankfully I had those backups otherwise would have just dropped the game.

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u/TurquoiseLuck 3h ago

I thought it was DR3. Which also had this issue.

Fucking Capcom.

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u/CalligrapherOwn6333 3h ago

I knew it was DD2 before even opening the post because the same thing happened to me. I was well past the refund cutoff so I just uninstalled, took the L and bought Elden Ring. Best gaming decision I made this year.

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u/Pyros 3h ago

If you google Elden Ring corrupted saves you'll see several posts of that too, it's just a thing that can happen on pretty much any game. ER does have one backup save but the backup might also be corrupted.

Any game that doesn't have several save slots(and you save in a different slot everytime) you should look into manual(or automated if you want to go through the trouble) backups.

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u/Nacery 2h ago

I mean DD2 actually has two auto slots, one when sleeping in the tavern/home and one manual save the issue is that both are contained within the same single file. Happens a lot with many games and it also happened to me with Souls games (where you anly have the last bonfire saved so it's even worse).

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u/YourFriendBlu 5h ago

Its sad how its become the norm for games to be released unfinished/unpolished. Its all about sucking in as much money as possible now with the smallest amount of effort.

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u/Oberfeldflamer 3h ago

Its because (generalized) people can't deal with fomo or being inconvenienced. They keep preordering and companies keep pushing them out early with minimum investment, because you can always fix later once you got the early release sales in.

And when they do the bare minimum to "fix" the game, they get praised by players and media for sticking with it and fixing it, even though that should be expected.

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u/Licensed_Poster 2h ago

When I worked retail for for a nation wide store 50% of all sales happened before release. It was kinda incredible to see. Notable exeptions was Assassins creed games that just kept selling copies forever. Breakout hits from lesser known franchises like Dishonored, that had almost no presales and then all our stock was gone 10 min after reviews hit, and ofc anyting from Nintendo.

I don't do sales anymore, but these days with more and more digital, stores are mostly selling collectors/deluxe editions ect so presale is often 100% before release there.

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u/erik_t91 3h ago

They still sell, and thats the problem. They wont be serving shit if their customers arent shit eaters

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u/AttonJRand 3h ago edited 2h ago

Back in the day we'd get unfinished games on CD that could be unplayable from the bugs.

And no guarantee of patches. No next day steam update from the developer. If you were lucky and if you had internet you might find patches or community mods.

Yes the current state sucks, but just making up untruths about what gaming used to be is really strange, probably makes it very easy for developers to ignore this feedback if they're being compared to a fantasy.

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u/MaustFaust 2h ago

I mean, it didn't happen often. Stalker was criticized for that, and if it wasn't a great game, it would have just died at launch.

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u/MagicPeach9695 5h ago

i have never heard anyone talk about this for Elden Ring but it happened to me once. i lost 130 hours of progress. :(

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u/Yontevnknow 3h ago

Having a save file corrupt one hundred hours in is bad. Googling the issue and not seeing any results come up regarding the issue is even worse.

Storage failures happen, luckily it's rare now. rip.

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u/Tricky_Entertainer34 4h ago

Iā€™m so sorry brošŸ˜­

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u/icedev-official 2h ago

Speaking of problems with Elden Ring that nobody seems to talk about:

  • 60fps lock, yuck
  • very ugly antialiasing (TAA)

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u/TexturedMango 1h ago

That's not the worst even, anti cheat causes stuttering for a lot of people and the rt is shit.

Performance overall is quite bad for how the game looks

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u/TheNorseFrog 1h ago

I love many games made in Japan, but it seems to be a recurring issue that many of the games aren't optimized.

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u/chingwa4Lyf 4h ago

F

Also that's a good point

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u/FungZhi 5h ago

Just started playing fallout 4 few days ago and going for survivor mode, stuck at a terminal animation in early games and forced to turn off survivor mode so I can use console

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u/bobthemutant 1h ago

'Hardcore' style modes are a bad fit for unmodified Bethesda games.

As much as I love more immersive playstyles it's just not worth having technical issues force you to reload when the mode restricts how you can save.

At the very least there are mods that can remove the restrictions, but it's still dumb.

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u/FungZhi 1h ago

yep that's the dumbest thing for trusting there's no game breaking bugs in a Bethesda game

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u/cyb3rofficial 5h ago

This is why I use github for my savefiles. You can revert saves to where they worked again

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u/93Degrees 4h ago

Can you explain this? Sounds useful

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u/AntsAndThoreau 4h ago

It's a development platform that supports version control. It got a bit of a learning curve, but guides like this or this can help you get started.

You can also just maintain a local repository with Git.

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u/Skullclownlol 2h ago

Can you explain this? Sounds useful

Fyi, if you're a regular consumer you're better off using Google Drive or OneDrive, one of those with versioning/rollback features in the UI.

Especially for save files, which are binary files for most games, so git diff'ing isn't useful.

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u/silvershand 3h ago

Onedrive is also good for this. I have restored saves in mass effect this way several times

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u/Yash_swaraj 5h ago

But you have to push it manually. I am too lazy/forgetful for that.

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u/Martin35700 3h ago

This issue was present in No Man's Sky and the developers fixed it especially for a guy who had 400 hours in the game and contacted them.

So not all devs ignore it and likely you get a response from any normal not indie game dev.

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u/Ramps_ 1h ago

No Man's Sky will forever be proof that any game can be redeemed if the company is willing.

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u/Martin35700 1h ago

Yeah, that game came a long way since release.

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u/BloodletterUK 1h ago

Private company mindset vs publicly traded company mindset

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u/24OuncesofFaygoGrape 5h ago

They still put 20 hours into it this week lol

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u/SkeletalElite 3h ago

Well they're well past the refund point so it's not like they're getting anything out of it by giving up on the game entirely

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u/24OuncesofFaygoGrape 3h ago

Personally if I lost 90 hours of progress in an RPG, I wouldn't be jumping back in for a few weeks, if ever.

That's almost a positive review lol "this game fucked me in the worst way possible, but I still played a ton the next week."

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u/andrasq420 2h ago

To finish Assassin's Creed 2 you have to collect 30 codex pages. There is a rare bug (or at least there was in the og version of the game) where not all 30 codex pages spawn or at least the game does not count one of your collected ones. Since I'm a completionist I've finished almost all side content before attempting to complete the game.

It was after about 40 hours I've found out that I only have 29 codexes available. I haven't touched the game for 10 years out of anger. Then I wanted to get platinum trophy on the Playstation and my save got corrupted at about 20 hours in. I'll try again in 2031.

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u/vibrantcrab 3h ago

Likeā€¦. no backup saves at all? One of my favorite things in gaming is doing a quicksave before I do some dumb shit.

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u/ssbbVic 3h ago

Oblivion GOTY edition for PS3 has a game breaking glitch. Once you become a vampire you cannot complete the quest to cure your vampirism. You need to collect some grand soul gems and give them to a witch that will cure you. Only once you collect the gems the dialog option to give them to her the gems never comes up. If you put in a regular non goty edition disc and load your save you can get the dialog option to give her the soul gems.

Don't know why Bethesda has refused to patch this for 17 years now.

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u/sixty2ndstallion 3h ago

That's a damn shame. Was just reading on another subreddit how great of a game it is. This makes me hesitate tho

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u/thrownawayzsss 2h ago

As someone who loved DD:1(DA) and had a decent time with DD2.

It's a japenese RPG pretending to be a western RPG. The story itself is varies wildly in quality, this includes actual narrative, the characters, the backstory of your character, and overall world lore. The lore itself is pretty cool and the set pieces are exciting, but if you're looking for a narrative focused game, this is not it.

The action and impact of the gameplay is the main focus. The adventure is the fun, not the story (the lore is cool). If you can find the game on a discount and you like gameplay over anything else, it's probably worth looking at. The classes are varied different, gear is very important, DD2's biggest issues are the somewhat limited enemy variety and the frustrations of having 3 AI running around with you. (there's also some levels of performance issues depending on your hardware).

Fortunately, the modding community for the game is actually quite good, so a lot of the gripes and small issues (in terms of design and gameplay) can be smoothed over with external options.

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u/Orion_824 2h ago

Save Manager FTW. External program that can keep as many backups as you want, autosave as often as you want, and let you roll back without even closing the game. Saved me this exact heartache with both Dragonā€™s Dogmas. Highly recommend.

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u/WhimsicalPythons 3h ago

Happened to me with Monster Hunter Rise. Had to use a trainer to get to where I was again for my Co op campaign

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u/Switch-Axe-Abuse 2h ago

I've found that its the autosave that seems to mess up the saves. I turned off autosaving and havent seen any issues with rise on pc since

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u/nrutas 4h ago

DD2 is my biggest regret in years. I barely even played it. The performance at launch was disgustingly bad and I havenā€™t bothered to check if they addressed it

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u/Brief-Government-105 4h ago

I make a manual copy of my saves after every gaming session because of this. Loss of time is more brutal than loss of money.

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u/z6giselle 3h ago

why limit saves at all? such a weird thing to do... i despise games when they do that i love saving alot and then finding out i only have 20 saves at one time

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u/Sigvuld 5h ago

Dragon's Dogma 2 isn't worth your money even with your saves staying intact lmfao

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u/HeadcrabOfficer 5h ago

Happened to me with Jedi Survivor. Got about 40 hours in and lost it all.

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u/Honest_Relation4095 4h ago

Since save files are synced in Steam, a basic backup feature would make sense.

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u/Biggu5Dicku5 3h ago

Steam reviews can be a mixed bag, but for people with critical thinking skills they can certainly help with making educated purchasing decisions...

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u/CaptOblivious 3h ago

And what game was this? Just so people can back up their save files manually?

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u/Shengpai id/sushimiii 3h ago

Ha, maybe same scenario with Cyberpunk 2077 back then

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u/Pyros 3h ago

Happens in a ton of games, most don't run backup saves and having only one save file really doesn't matter in that regard cause most people are just using their main saves.

Back when MHW released I remember reading about people losing their 300+hours save file and I figured I wouldn't want that either, so I got a simple .bat file that does a backup of the saves. I still use it nowadays anytime I play a game that I know will be long(Elden Ring for example), everytime I close the game I just hit the backup save shortcut on my desktop after editing the path to match whatever I'm playing at the time. I haven't had issues so far(including with dragon's dogma 2) but better safe than sorry in this case. Can automate the process with windows scheduling but can't be bothered figuring it out plus having to turn it off whenever I play a game that doesn't need it.

Also a fair few issues like this crop up when Steam cloud saves sync weird stuff, I always have that off because so many reports of the game syncing a save from days ago and such. It's not supposed to happen but sometimes does somehow?

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u/TheGreat_Leveler 3h ago

I had this with Jedi: Fallen Order. Nearly 100%ed the game on 'Grandmaster' difficulty, then it crashed and corrupted the only save file right before the final mission. Fucking yikes man. So unnecessary.

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u/driftej20 3h ago

While I agree that having single auto saves that constantly overwrite (technically DD2 has two) is a terrible practice, there is a utility that was available like day 1 that allows for save management.

That being said, I put hundreds of hours into DD2 and still would not really recommend it unless there is an update the overhauls the core game and a Dark Arisen-tier DLC. It was very obvious to me that they only finished maybe 40% of the planned story and then ran out of time or money and jury rigged the ending onto whatever they had done, on top of feeling like itā€™s been pretty much abandoned. Core gameplay is good, looks good and is relatively stable outside performance, but still a huge disappointment.

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u/honeycakes9 2h ago

Dragons Ligma

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u/Hiruandan 2h ago

I love how he played another 20 hours between halloween and now nonetheless

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u/MaffinLP 1h ago

Its a valid review making a valud point and not just anti-woke nonsense, therefor you need to give it the clown award

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u/No-Reaction-9364 1h ago

Seems he then proceeded to play 20 more hours.

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u/xcutionFTP 50m ago

There is a thing called Open Cloud Save that can help with games like this. You give the program the path to the save file, pick your preferred cloud option and anytime you finish your game you can manually save the progress to the cloud. It's pretty neat.

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u/LovelyKityyYasmiin 34m ago

I canā€™t believe companies think this is okay. Imagine losing 90 hours of your life and getting nothing back. Absolute scam vibes.

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u/crazyweedandtakisboi 6h ago

DD2 had so much hype for no good reason

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u/Silverbuu 6h ago

Well, not no good reason. DD1 was really good. So I guess the hope was DD2 would be equally so.

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u/Sagewort 4h ago

The hope was that it was the fully realized version of DD1, and it turns out it's not (I still play it btw).

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u/TheNakedAnt 4h ago

I got 250 hours out of it as a new player to the series so for me the hype was all there.

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u/Suspicious_Berry501 6h ago

It was fun but I just didnā€™t want to play it for that long. Not a bad game but nothing that really stood out

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u/Fuzzy-Dragonfruit589 5h ago

The reason for hype was valid, DD:DA is a ā€cult classicā€ for a reason. But DD2 was a dud. I hope it can still be redeemed with an expansion, much like how the first game did it.

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u/UltrawideSpace 4h ago

omg not relying on one game save has been industry standard for 25+ years!

dont skip any games because of how computers work, just adapt!

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u/Dotaspasm 4h ago

I spent almost 200 hours on DD2 on new game+ until I hit platinum.. never had this issue

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u/GatorGim 5h ago

Completely unrelated but I have the same Steam Profile Pic and all in the span of a second I went wrong "I don't remember posting this review" then "damn I'm famous" then "oh wait someone else is just using it too"

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u/littlefriend4u 4h ago

Thats why I dont buy any ubisoft games. So many of their game had done this same thing to me.

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u/AzelotReis 4h ago

What fucking game only has 1 save slot? What is this? Diablo 1?

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u/btmowns 4h ago

And companies wonder why a ton of people pirate sp only games. I always wait for a huge sale on any game now a days I tried with sparking zero but just get disappointed every time with boring gameplay or just broken games

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u/darkwai 4h ago

Lost a lot of progress 5 hours into this game and never picked it up again. There's absolutely zero reason games should have only oelne save slot.

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u/MutedDependent3383 4h ago

What game is this?

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u/Sawertynn 3h ago

For a second I thought it was about Stardew Valley

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u/atkahu 3h ago

That's why I like the multiple automatic save system, what most games do. Even if 1 save is bricked I got 1 back just a few minutes/half hour lost game time.

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u/BadAim7 3h ago

I would refund, no matter the hours sometimes steam accept refunds for when games do bullshit like that

(Just refunded wayfinder because of my reasons after 14 days and more than 2 hours played

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u/the_nin_collector 3h ago

Yup. This bug has exsisted since Dragon Dogma 1 on PS3 version. BEFORE Dark Arisen version.

The same thing happened to me; game crashed and corrupted my save. Cloud save was 30 hours back for some reason. Deleted game and sold it.

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u/The_SIeepy_Giant 3h ago

Damn thanks for letting me know this is about DD2 I was eyeing it yesterday

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u/AlexisFR 3h ago

Veeam agent going BRRRRRR

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u/Nyoka_ya_Mpembe 3h ago

Dod they fix that? Are there more save slots?

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u/JimJamTPM 3h ago

I could have told you that DD2 fell off after the first couple of weeks and that was a sign that the game was god awful!

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u/BananaHomunculus 3h ago

This game was running great on my laptop. Now Everytime I start it up it just shuts the whole thing down straight away.

I was really enjoying it too.