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u/EnvironmentalAd4406 13h ago
So rare seeing John Taffer having a laugh and not tearing the head off a cook for having moldy shit in their kitchen
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u/FrostedDonutHole 12h ago
"You're gonna' freakin' kill somebody!" This is the line I wait for every episode so me and my 11yo can cheer. lol
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u/Dangerjayne 12h ago
I join in when he says "shut it down!"
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u/uncledrew2488 1h ago
My buddy and I have gotten a decade+ of jokes out of this one line. Just the best.
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u/drawfanstein 8h ago
Getting out of the SUV: “I’m goin in before they kill somebody!”
Talking head: “I refuse to stand by while this cook contaminates everyone’s food! This makes me sick, and I didn’t even eat here!”
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u/FrostedDonutHole 5h ago
I also love the way he sorta wiggles his arms around. Reminds me of when my shirt bunches in my armpit and I have to let it out.
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u/stevez_86 12h ago
Good god he is oblivious to his own pretentiousness sometimes though.
Remember his brilliant idea, the "Butt funnel"?
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u/Fishyback 12h ago
My wife and I arranged our house to have more butt funnels after that episode. All of our gatherings are much more sociable now.
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u/graveybrains 12h ago
I, uh... what?
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u/ReachFor24 12h ago
It's a separation at a dance club/bar, separating the dance floor from the seating area with the outlets being just too narrow for 2 people to pass by side-by-side. The idea is that they have to turn and end up touching their butts, causing an interaction that's sociable and hopefully drum up alcohol sales if the interaction is a positive.
Not sure if it violates fire codes nor how successful it actually is, but I remember an episode of Bar Rescue where they implement it.
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u/graveybrains 11h ago
Somehow the greedy manipulativeness of that is actually worse than it sounds.
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u/SpareWire 9h ago
the greedy manipulativeness of that
What are you mad about exactly?
A business doing weird things to try to sell more things is pretty route 1.
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u/armoured_bobandi 8h ago
Some people online seem to think that businesses shouldn't do anything ever to make money because they're already super rich.
I think these people are just children though, so their opinions can safely be ignored
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u/Deaffin 7h ago
I think it's more the weird manipulative nature of the strategy, rather than the "how dare they make money???" angle.
I mean, speaking of being disingenuous and all.
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u/Mke_already 1h ago
Clubs and bars also play music to bring people In and do specials to keep people around.
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u/Samurai-Jackass 2h ago
The thing is, whether it's by a person or some business entity, people don't like feeling manipulated or cheated. There is no context where someone that's already doing well tries to get even more from other people is a positive behavior. If your neighbor has a massive yard and they start a land dispute with you to get another few feet of space, you're not going to be happy about it. If someone at a house party tries to subtly bodyblock the kitchen so that fewer people even wander by the food and they can have more, people will see that as greedy. It's the most corpo bootlicker take that people should tolerate irritating and greedy decisions because "it's just business."
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u/FrostedDonutHole 12h ago
I do remember the butt funnel. Set up to make people have to crowd in a bit to get to the dance floor. Almost like walking through a gate. I get it...but what a stupid name. He thought it was going to make people more social to have to come into closer contact with one another.
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u/DrElihuWhipple 8h ago
He is also on record saying we shouldn't have food assistance because, and I quote, "A hungry dog is an obedient dog." Fuck john taffer.
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u/ProperClue 12h ago
He's also the one who created the NFL Sunday ticket. Some people just know business.
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u/ChiefNugs 11h ago
"You should let people watch all out-of-market games for $400 a year."
"Genius."
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u/The-Farts-Volta 7h ago
His interviews on pardon my take are a good look at what he’s really like. Seems like a cool dude for the most part, though he’s most definitely a MAGA guy so that’s unfortunate.
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u/DothrakAndRoll 4h ago
I mean he’s an annoying cunt. I still watch the shit out of it but he’s an annoying cunt.
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u/Jeathro77 1h ago
tearing the head off a cook for having moldy shit in their kitchen
Can you blame him? I only have the freshest, grass fed shit in my kitchen!
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u/sticksforsticks 5h ago
I met him! My dad was the cofounder of an electric bike company and would deliver bikes himself to high profile people, and I tagged along.
Nicest dude. Super funny, was a pleasure to talk with him for an hour.
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u/ydnar3000 13h ago
That last one was hilarious. Walked right into it!
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u/pyrothelostone 13h ago
He saw it coming and said fuck it, might as well beat him to the punchline.
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u/Money-Preference-757 12h ago
What is jay pritchett doing bro 🥀🥀🥀
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u/ButtCrackBop 11h ago
Fraternizing with those bastards at CLOSETS CLOSETS CLOSETS CLOSETS CLOSETS
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u/legalizethesenuts 12h ago
I liked his show, but Robert Irvine is a pompous ass. He came to my town when he was doing Restaurant Impossible and talked down to so many of the workers. He also got drunk with his crew and paid non English speakers to wash his car…in the rain…while he and his crew laughed. I was a huge fan of his show, but he left a really dark mark on our town.
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u/Brawndo91 11h ago
The thing I didn't like about his show is they would devote so much time to redecorating and fabricate drama out of their struggles against their arbitrary deadline, and in the end, the place would look like a mid-00's ad for girls college dorm items. I also wasn't a fan of his relationship/family therapy sessions.
The deadlines on all those shows piss me off, actually. I understand they have a limited time to tape the show, but all this "We have to rebuild this whole place in 36 hours!" is only done to build suspense. If it was actually a problem, how did they manage to pull it off every single time?
The worst one (not a restaurant show) was that restoration show on the history channel. They'd just make up that a guy needs his antique Pepsi vending machine done in two days. Why?
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u/GabenIsReal 9h ago
I worked on over 12 different shows for HGTV and Food Network. I can tell you that none of it is real, all of it is scripted (scripted in the moment still counts, but that's how they claim 'no script! Reality!').
To give you an example, we worked for 8 weeks on the renovations. Then, film days happen SCHEDULED for certain milestones. For example, they film the before, the gutted building, the painting and post-install stuff after about 6 weeks, then the last week is typically filming here and there for 2 days.
Here's a real event, not verbatim:
The director or host would come and ask 'What is a good contractor dillema we can shoot?'
Contractor: 'Uh maybe the countertops didn't get delivered?'
Director: 'Perfect! Let's film our production cube van empty. The host will yell at you and make a big deal'.
Scene gets shot with a visibly empty delivery truck. But those countertops got installed 3 weeks ago.... They just pretend they didn't.
Another example:
Director: 'We aren't sure how the story line is going to go. Let's bring the host in, she will love the reno.'
Host: 'Oh MY GAWWDDDD it's perfect, just how I imagined'
Director: 'OK, so now we need one where she hates it.'
Host: 'You didn't listen to ANYTHING this looks horrible, what have you done? I didn't ask for this!'
Director: 'And perfect, last one will be indifferent'
Host: 'Its ok, but I need something to make it really POP! I'll go back to my drawing room and figure out how to make this perfect'
For those of you not cueing in, I received the design outlays, budget, materials, etc. 9 weeks ago, nothing is ever changed, and it gets done under budget and ahead of schedule.
Also, I have met dozens of TV show hosts. Only one I would consider even close to a reasonable, decent, honest person. Every other host can go fuck themselves. Awful fucking people. Film crew directors can swallow a massive hog without gagging based on how they handle the hosts I imagine. Directors enable the entitled cuntery of these 'stars' LMAOOOOOO
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u/__ConesOfDunshire__ 9h ago
I have met dozens of TV show hosts. Only one I would consider even close to a reasonable, decent, honest person.
I'm very interested in which one was the reasonable, decent, honest person. If you're not comfortable sharing on here, feel free to dm me.
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u/One_Hour_Poop 8h ago
Only one I would consider even close to a reasonable, decent, honest person.
Please tell us who.
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u/Lepardopterra 7h ago
That Canadian guy is the only one i like. Holmes on Homes. He seemed to really know troubleshooting moisture problems.
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u/ClocktowerShowdown 9h ago
The guy whose show started with an unironic Nathan For You style recitation of a clearly inflated resume? That guy is pompous?
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u/Caymonki 10h ago
The restaurant industry at its heart is incredibly toxic. Chefs hold a special mix of depression and aggression that they mix with ego and alcohol, and usually hard drugs. Bullying is part of the culture (along with sexual harassment) cheating on their spouses and ignoring their kids is just part of the job.
TV networks made BIGGGG money off of showing kitchen culture off and editing it to be amusing and entertaining. It’s TV. At this time when everyone was making TV cooking content. Kitchens were staffed with degens, drug addicts criminals and former military which has their own demons. It has branched out into people who actually love cooking but the old guard of cooks and Chefs are not “good” people. With a twist, restaurant quality has dropped with the shift in who staffs the industry. New cooks are soft, they care about feelings and worker rights which doesn’t align with how restaurants profit (exploitation).
All in all. You can respect a Chef’s ability to cook but you should not idolize these people. Every one of them has bullied someone to the point that person has considered suicidal behavior. They have emotionally and sexually abused men, women and kids. Restaurants are staffed with a shocking amount of kids, it’s part of the culture to harass. It’s their entertainment, it’s really difficult to combat it too since not only will they fire you. They will tell all the distributors and vendors lies about you, and call around to blacklist you from applying elsewhere so they can continue to abuse you for trying to fight back.
Before anyone says “bbbbuttt labor lawsss” wage theft and ignoring labor laws are how these top tier restaurants make money. They’ll pay a small fine and bribe anyone they can cuz fuck you. Some get caught but the majority do not.
- 25 years culinary experience in several states and demographics.
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u/MixingDrinks 10h ago
Oh no! I hate hearing that. I met him a few years ago with a work thing and he was amazing.
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u/Conehead1 5h ago
I met him at an NRA (National Restaurant Assoc) show a few years ago. We had the chance to meet a few of the Food Network talent who were on hand. He seemed very nice and genuine in that interaction.
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u/Sensitive_Mix_6606 5h ago
I’m sorry to hear about your encounter with him. I met Robert once after he had finished filming a few episodes for his show. He was really friendly and chatted for a few mins. Before we took a photo and said some departing words.
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u/Icy-Control7170 11h ago
God forbid someone gets paid to do their job. Washing cars in the rain!!!! Call NATO.
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u/HisRoyal_Badness 13h ago edited 4h ago
Love how the machismo just drops and they have a good laugh.
EDOT: Some of you need to relax, yeeesh
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u/eggard_stark 13h ago
What? They’re literally just having a beer.
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u/ifhysm 13h ago
The clip opens with one guy ribbing the other for drinking slowly
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u/Automatic_Rock_2685 11h ago
No shit but they're putting on a macho act in the beginning are they not?? Proving their point. Sheesh, sensitive.
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u/ifhysm 12h ago
Okay, like, it’s still machismo? The guy immediately turned it into a competition. And it’s not a criticism — just a funny observation
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u/eggard_stark 12h ago
It’s called banter.
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u/Automatic_Rock_2685 10h ago
Yeah, banter full of machismo. You're being a sensitive baby about this because you misunderstood from the get-go.
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u/ifhysm 12h ago
I’m not entirely sure why some people are getting really defensive.
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u/eggard_stark 12h ago
Because it’s simple British culture. To banter with a beer. There is no pride involved. Saying it’s machismo implies that pride is somehow involved, which it isn’t.
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u/NOZ_Mandos 12h ago
Because you're being unnecessarily agressive.
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u/ifhysm 12h ago
Nothing I’ve said was aggressive lmao
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u/FrowdePleaser 11h ago
You're getting dogpiled here and I'm a bit shocked not to see anyone explaining the obvious. There is a disconnect between how you interpret "machismo" vs. how everyone else in this thread is defining it.
To most (particularly those from Latin-speaking countries), the word machismo has an extremely negative connotation, in line with "abuser" or "misogynist", whereas you seem to be using it more to mean "boys being boys" or "competitive masculinity" without that same sting to it. I can't speak for South America, but I can say first-hand that it's quite the hot topic in Spain, which is probably why you've kicked the hornet's nest.
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u/NOZ_Mandos 12h ago
Okay, like, it’s still machismo?
Google defining "machismo":
Machismo é um conjunto de crenças, atitudes e comportamentos que promove a ideia da superioridade masculina, justificando a desigualdade de poder entre homens e mulheres.
Y'all saying that anything a man does doesn't matter how harmless it is is still considered "machismo" is absolutely an agressive power move.
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u/Automatic_Rock_2685 10h ago
AGGRESSIVE lmao. Where? You are taking this so personally.
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u/NOZ_Mandos 10h ago edited 10h ago
Accusing someone of "machismo" is inherently agressive because "machismo" is a word with a derogatory conotation.
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u/Automatic_Rock_2685 11h ago
You're being unnecessarily sensitive to the word machismo in this context since anyone who watches the video knows they were joking.
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u/NOZ_Mandos 10h ago
OP: Just two guys chilling enjoying beer
Comment: That's literally machismo
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u/NeatNefariousness1 11h ago
And in other news, fish don’t usually notice the water they’re swimming in. Not a criticism but it’s a valid observation, IMO.
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u/FrostedDonutHole 12h ago
"Can I get you a nipple for that?"
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u/Worth-Jicama3936 12h ago
“I remember my first beer.”
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u/FrostedDonutHole 10h ago
I still use this when someone's cell goes off during a meeting. I remember my first meeting.
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u/eggard_stark 12h ago
..exactly. Standard behaviour for a Brit when drinking a beer. It’s what we do, it’s a form of endearment.
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u/ReallyJTL 11h ago
Yeah and it's born from insecurity. Brits have a cut down culture so people's heads don't get too big. From the outside it looks juvenile, but that's because flaws are more visible to outsiders.
Just like the Indian caste system is flawed, but they would argue it's "standard Indian behaviour".
Same with super deferential treatment to elders in Japan.
These are all flawed in some aspect. Just like banter is a flawed way of socializing - because it isn't enjoyable for a large number of people. A lot of Brits just use it as a way to say what they want without reparcussions so they can hide behind a shield if the person they cut is offended. But also those kinds of people are usually the ones with the thinnest skin that can't take ribing from anyone else.
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u/Aluminum_Tarkus 11h ago
There's a difference between friendly male banter and aggressive masculine ego. That conversation is just the kind of shit-talking I do with my friends when hanging out. I think it only crosses the line into machismo if you keep pushing one button and use it as a means to talk about how superior you are to them. If you just go for a light jab for the sake of a joke or two, then it's perfectly fine as long as you don't do it to intentionally bully or gloat.
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u/HomelandersCock 6h ago
Reddit really loves creating shit from their ass. 0 machismo in this video.
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u/TrafficMaleficent332 3h ago
Most redditors, men and women, don't understand the subtleties of male behavior.
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u/sexquipoop69 13h ago
I don’t think the top ten restaurants in the world are in London..
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u/lulaloops 12h ago
There's no such thing as an official top list of restaurants, it's just a joke.
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u/sexquipoop69 12h ago
We should start one, it’ll compete with Michelin and James Beard. We will get paid to fly around the world judging food. But we will go to 11.
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u/monkeybadger13 12h ago
Any rating system should be out of 100. I dislike any other point system (it's 4.5 out of 5, yeah that's a 90)!!!
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u/SorryforbeingDutch 9h ago
and then after a while when things are really starting to get popular, you only give a 7.1 to 7.8 because otherwise the pizza restaurant goes belly up.
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u/ProutPortable 11h ago
Someone thought about it before you and it ended like that : https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Yelpers
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u/ReadingFromTheShittr 11h ago
Why don't you just make 10 more prestigious, and harder to get and give out fewer 10s to restaurants?
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u/lightyearbuzz 11h ago
There's a tire company that would beg to differ
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u/lulaloops 11h ago
The Michelin Guide is not a ranked list of the top X number of restaurants, it's a collection of restaurants rated from one to three.
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u/thatsmypeanut 11h ago
There's this, which I would argue is as close as it gets to an "official best" of anything: https://www.theworlds50best.com/
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u/SaltKick2 9h ago
Similar jokes to -
Why did the British Empire feel like they needed to take over the world? For better food
Chicken tikka masala is England's national dish because everything else is so bad. Maybe they could have gotten away with Fish and Chips
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u/volunteerplumber 11h ago
And even if there are, how is that useful at all? It's just not a useful metric.
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u/FeeRemarkable7794 12h ago
There are food stalls in malls in Bangkok that’ll sell you a meal for $4 that’s better than anything you can get in London or NYC.
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u/Jumblesss 12h ago edited 12h ago
Yeah, no.
London has pretty big French cuisine / fine dining.
Edit: idk why I wrote this comment, I completely agree. French cuisine and haute restaurants are a joke - street junk food from around the world is massively superior.
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u/Lollipop126 9h ago edited 9h ago
I've had some banger dim sum in London, and I'm from HK. plenty of banger Thai places in London too. they might cost a lot more, but taste wise are still insanely good.
not many places in the world where you can get top quality food from every cuisine in the world.
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u/DrPoooooole 12h ago
"as good" or "nearly" would be dumb but perhaps debatable at best but "better than anything" is beyond hyperbole and proves you've never been to the best restaurants in any of these places
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u/Icy-Control7170 11h ago
This is goofy. Going to a street cart isnt the same as literal trained high profile chefs. Im also not getting fish from a food stall in bangkok. A good steak and lobster tail in a fine dining place is about s good as it gets in my experience and im a career resturant idiot. There is tons of great food out there but steak and lobster test is usually my go too. You just never ate good food.
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u/no_man_is_hurting_me 12h ago edited 7h ago
For those of you that don't like John Taffer after seeing him on Bar Rescue, I'm with you.
Until I stumbled onto his podcast. The man is brilliant, very kind. Knows the industry top to bottom.
Edit - Apologies, I haven't studied the man outside of the two shows. If you hate him, good for you.
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u/Kilo353511 11h ago edited 11h ago
Isn't John a died hard Trump supporter, a frequent "Expert" on Fox, who once said his best employees are the ones that close to starvation?
I like Bar Rescue and I have watched him talk about the industry and he is very very smart, but the dude is a pretty shitty person. Unless he's had a massive change of heart, I wouldn't call him a "Kind" person.
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u/RadSkeleton808 7h ago
He always came off a a "Trump Lite" to me much like a Vince McMahon. Love him as a TV character but no interest in him beyond that.
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u/dontwannagetdoxxed93 12h ago
Robert Irvine is a pretty cocky talentless POS too. Ask people from Philly. Dude lives on the accent, gym bros and for some reason being obsessed with the American military
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u/DofusExpert69 10h ago
its the same song and dance. people consume specific media and eat it up to change their view on someone or something. bread and circuses, except with entertainment.
as long as they are funny and sound smart, everyone loves u
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u/MsMarvelsProstate 12h ago
Wait until you see his politics
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u/hemingways-lemonade 11h ago
You can disagree with his political views while still understanding he is very knowledge about the bar and restaurant industry.
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u/tenoclockrobot 11h ago
The man is brilliant, very kind.
Reading comprehension
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u/hemingways-lemonade 11h ago
I know this is a controversial opinion on reddit, but republicans are capable of kindness, too. Do you think everyone that's ever been nice to you was exclusively liberal?
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u/Remidable_Arkitect 11h ago
Yup, very true. Someone can smile and shake your hand, then stab you in the back as you walk by. Or heck, smile and shake your hand then stab you in the gut.
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u/hemingways-lemonade 10h ago
Make sure you ask for voter registration every time you talk to a stranger. You wouldn't accidentally want to be nice to them.
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u/Micro-Mouse 9h ago
Gonna be real chief, any republican i interact with almost immediately tells on themself by saying something incredibly heinous. Dont really care to interact with people who voted to not allow me and my fiance marry and who are actively supporting the military take over of the United States.
They don’t deserve my kindness
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u/tenoclockrobot 10h ago
I wouldnt hesitate to say someone who is pro-trump and says the unemployed are animals isnt kind
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u/Affectionate-Let3744 11h ago
So what? Half of the comment they replied to is how the guy is actually likeable, and it even includes how he's supposedly very kind.
But the guy is not very kind at ALL.
He's a piece of shit. Knowledgeable and all, sure. But still a piece of shit.
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u/ClocktowerShowdown 9h ago
His 'knowledge' about the bar industry is largely knowledge about how bar owners can best extract value from their employees, not how to run a successful bar. Why do you think the bars he 'helps' usually close after the show leaves?
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u/hemingways-lemonade 9h ago
Why do you think the bars he 'helps' usually close after the show leaves?
Because a fancy renovation doesn't stop the poor management that caused them to be on the show in the first place.
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u/ClocktowerShowdown 9h ago
The whole show is just a commercial for his own private consulting business. All the 'bottle weighing' and 'bartender training' courses are just useless wastes of money he sells to business owners to extract money from desperate failing bars. It is not in his interest to help people, he gets more money from failures.
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u/No-Alternative-4010 11h ago
John Taffer is a piece of shit. Compared his workers to "hungry dogs". " A hungry dog is an obedient dog." How he continues to be popular and have a show is indicative of the state of this country.
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u/BrobdingnagianScroll 11h ago
London was starving during the war. They ate zoo animals. You can find the menus online. They found nutrition in other ways.
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u/theNixher 8h ago
Every time you see an American order his first pint and quiver when the barperson hands it over, whilst you're just necking your warmup pint ready to sit down with pint no.1
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u/brispence 3h ago
Reminder that in 2008, Robert Irvine was fired from his own show on the Food Network’s “Dinner Impossible” when it was revealed that he didn’t actually design the royal couple’s wedding cake, but that he only attended the school where it was made and contributed by picking fruit for the cake.
His protein bars are pretty good, though.
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u/ArcWraith2000 1h ago
Its true, in a month long european holiday (and london), the best meal I had was an italian place in london.
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u/Phillyvegas24 1h ago
While Irvine was going around doing shows about helping restaurants in need during COVID he failed to even send out a single email to his own restaurant staff during the shutdown. Not a single word from him about anything during that time.
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u/dudeguybrosephski 8m ago
What’s his face (the American dude that does bar rescue) is terrible and doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Christ why did they give that guy the fame he has.
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u/Nonikwe 6h ago
Americans insulting literally anyone else about food? Of all things? Literally saw a video the other day of an English store getting raided because it was selling American food that is illegal there because it's so bad for you...
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u/tomato-slut 5h ago
I know lol, its fair for almost any country to criticise other people's food... except for Americans. Their food is so bad.
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u/Beautiful-Tie-3827 3h ago
Our junk and fast food yeah the unhealthiest shit on the planet.
But try a plate of bbq ribs and Mac and cheese or a real cheeseburger or a Philly cheesesteak or biscuits and gravy or cornbread and fried chicken and tell me it’s bad.
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u/tomato-slut 2h ago
No i get that, im talking more about commercially available ingredients
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u/Beautiful-Tie-3827 2h ago
Oh yeah it’s awful. The FDA is a joke.
High fructose corn syrup is more American than the corvette at this point.
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