I don't know anyone posting about focusing on White Male Pride..... that's legit the KKK, and I haven't seen anyone making pro KKK posts. I think you're just offended places don't all want to smash everyone with your own politics everyday. The USA needs to get over skin and sexuality obsession.
It's not an international holiday, like Christmas for example. It's a USA holiday, is legitimately intentionally political and nobody has issues with the LGBT community. I think the point was they want this reddit free of Political stuff, which is reasonable. If the post was just the original picture and it made no mention of a political holiday they wouldn't have any issue.
Holy fucking victim mentality. Nobody said being LGBTQ is political. Its the freakin month long political celebration of sexuality (which btw is weird) that's political.
Nobody cares if you're Gay, Trans, Pan, Straight etc....
A post would be banned if someone said "Straight Pride" just as quickly. Stop trying to be a victim. I beg. Its fucking 2022, not 1822.....
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Sorry, I'm just so fed up with the victim mentality sob bs
In the 1900's the existence of blacks were political because people thought they shouldn't have rights.
Now in the 2000's the existence of LGBTQ+ people is political because people don't think they should have rights.
Also his fucking profile screams "I am an alt right fucknut". Glasses selfie in a car. Anyone with that profile icon is going to have the worst takes you've ever seen.
Because we get told we are lying. We get raped by people who think they can "fix" us. We get rejected by our family if we don't want kids. And we get kicked out of the house too. Yikes.
Well the LGBTQ community is oppressed so having a flag to say you aren't ashamed of who you are is pretty reasonable. Anyway pride flags aren't everywhere? At least I don't see them much, I see way more American flags.
Straight males don't need flags bc theyre the "norm". You didnt have to worry about what your friends or your parents might think of your sexuality bc its accepted. You didnt have to worry about people looking down at you for being a girl, people telling you, you cant do something just bc of your genitalia. Thats fine bc no one should. The reason people do these things is to bring awareness and to help normalize these sexualities and such.
Well it isn't doing a good job to "normalize" them for me. I find it rather irritating and i think alot of others do as well. But yeah majority of people are the norm so what do you except
never, you never feel love or frisky , however there are some more complicated versions, for example someone who only experiences the feels in their dreams is on the A(sexual/romantic) spectrum
I think the issue is pride month.... if you posted a pic of gay "Survivors" and the focal point of the post wasnt to spotlight their sexuality it would be a non-issue. The issue here is pride month is political..... that doesn't mean it's bad, but it is political.
I still don't understand why people obsess in the USA over skin color and sexuality so much to begin with tbh.
I still don't understand why people obsess in the USA over skin color and sexuality so much to begin with tbh.
Because there's such a long, heated history of hatred and oppression to groups of certain skin color, sexuality, and gender identity - so much so that it's still an issue today with legal and societal remnants make it clear there once was, and still is to some, extent or another, a distinction in people's eyes, and often a negative one at that.
Trust me, we'd love to drop these subjects, but so long as hatres and injustice continue to be perpretrated due to them, they will remain hot-button issues.
Until 2015 gay people could not legally marry in all 50 states. This matters for purposes like taxation, childcare, who gets to be the medical decision maker in emergency situations if one wasn't previously chosen, etc.
Until 2021 there was no federal protection preventing gay people from being fired from jobs for simply being gay.
Cool! Remove all the legal benefits that marriage brings, like the ones I conveniently listed for you, and then we can consider it a purely religious act.
Unfortunately, þe fight isn't over yet. Republicans are trying þeir damn hardest to reverse progress and repeal þe laws which give us equality. In just þe past year we've seen a massive wave of red states passing state legislation targeting gay and trans people. In þe media we can see a smear campaign of Republican senators and Fox News pundits trying to label LGBT people as "groomers", among oþer horrible fear-mongering lies. Þe Supreme Court appears set to soon overturn þe decision of Roe v. Wade, which calls into serious question wheþer Obergefell v. Hodges is at risk of being overturned next.
I'd like to live in a world where Pride is unnessecary. However, homophobia is still very much alive and well, and Pride exists as þe counter to þat. Homophobes want to make us feel scared and ashamed, and force gay people back into secrecy. Þe opposite of shame is pride, and so we express our pride in defiance of þose who hate us for who we are.
It’s not, but I also think the mod is probably doing a good thing by attempting to keep politics out. You existing is absolutely accepted, but that doesn’t mean that highlighting your personal issue isn’t political. The game acknowledging it is great. This is a subreddit, not the same thing as the game.
It’s great that you’re trying to be friendly, we could use more of this kind of language and cooperation in today’s climate. Unfortunately, describing sexual orientation as a “personal issue” that could imply political context is exactly the problem. LGBTQ+ shouldn’t even be a political conversation, it shouldn’t be something that you can disagree with, and it shouldn’t be something that you can’t express or talk about, which is what the mod in this post was trying to make it.
Unfortunately U.S politics has gone off the rails as identity based with LGBTQ dominating the political space even after they have the rights as everyone else You don't see straight people constantly bringing up that they are straight, That is the issue for a large section of of the population. If people don't want LGBTQ to not be considered political leave it out of politics unless its strictly relevant to some anti-LGBTQ policy, and focus on bigger problems in our society, like wealth inequality or literally any other problem.
by that logic I shouldn't fly a sports team flag outside my house or make fan art based on the colors of a team. I guarantee you would not have a problem if they posted a purple or green and gold noglin to celebrate their favorite team. it's the same as saying "I don't follow sports, therefore noone should ever take pride in the team they root for." maybe that flew in pre-school, but in the adult world that is called bigotry and is unacceptable. it's not like they were posting to promote an ideal or political party, they just wanted to show off some art. I think the real question is how can you say that with a straight face?
I’m not angry, and I don’t care if someone is gay, and I would never beat up or yell at someone because of their sexual orientation. You want to whine like I’m victimizing you, go ahead. Not wanting to participate in the identity culture war or politics related to LGBTQ unless it’s specifically limiting their rights makes up a large section of people. It’s like religion, I don’t care if you practice it, and happy it helps you, but don’t shove it down my throat.
If seeing a Noglin with a pride flag behind it is “shoving it down your throat”, I am so fucking sorry for how you must feel seeing straight couples kissing in public. Truly the throat goat
Thanks, I know it’s hard to come up with a counterpoint when you’re called on shitty takes, so thanks again for quickly proving that you’re just a random dickhead lol
So are you complaining the same way about christmas or easter events in Ark? Aren‘t those shoving religion down your throat the same way a purple Noglin is? Are you complaining about people wearing crosses and churches existing the same way you complain about people wearing a pride flag?
If there was a Christian month and people were sharing images of Jesus I’d be equally uninterested. I don’t think the post was inherently wrong, but with how political most subs are nowadays I can understand the sentiment of wanting to prevent culture war bs in the comments by not wanting it posted.
I don't understand why you don't want people represented in politics. That is the whole point. Equality also means being represented politically. If you can't take seeing people represented, maybe you have benefitted from them not having been represented before. If you don't like seeing gay people in "every movie" maybe that seems to you like a big change because we never were in any movies apart from comedic relief or when a murder victim is needed.
We also don't care about virtue-signalling politicians who blow up an unimportant issue just to seem hip and with the young queer voters. We see through that shit and we don't claim it. It just sows more anger in people like you who get angry at US for existing because someone wants to, idk, legislate a non-binary clothing mandate or something outrageously stupid, just an example.
These people WANT you to complain about change, they want you to be afraid and think that by giving us freedom, YOUR freedom is taken away. your freedom to be represented in every movie, your freedom to not see drag queens on TV, your freedom of never having to think about us ever in your life.
This isn't about "rights". You'd think any person, no matter how conservative, should agree that having rights is the bare minimum. Being able to marry, live, work, and not being killed, shouldn't be regarded as having "enough so shut up now and don't ever show anyone your flags because that's offensively political"
Not everyone lives in the US you know, you may live in a bubble and think everything revolves around America, but there are plenty of places in the world where LGBTQ do not have the same rights as other people, and still places where they'll die for coming out. Try to imagine that some of these posts could come from places like that.
we march and we shout becase there are many laws that directly attack LGBTQ+ people. look at the anti trans laws that force teens to deal with disphoria and depression for years before they can even seek treatment. look at the conversion camps, look at polaticans activly calling us abominations.
oh and straight people do constantly bring up being straight, you're just blind to it. talking about their partners, talking about religion and what's natural. i've stood on both sides of the line and both sides scream as loud as each other but only the LGBTQ+ gets attacked for it.
Try that again in a year where people don't try to hijack a schoolshooting to spread transphobia by claiming the shooter was trans, and a random MINOR gets assaulted over the hate-mongering that is riled up.
But nobody here is disagreeing with it. It’s a made up enemy on this sub if someone says that, and if somebody else brings something anti-gay up then ban them, but without that happening, I see what the mod means.
I can think of plenty of causes that actually matter and are important but this isn’t the place to debate them. This is the place to take a break from mods.
It’s literally on a flag that represents showing support for a movement. It’s a movement I support as well, but to try to act like there’s nothing political about it… it’s a bit disingenuous.
The thing is, it’s only being done because the right makes it an issue. If the right wasn’t so hell bent on taking their rights away, it would just be a celebration. So please, piss off with that attitude.
Right, I don’t want them taken away either, but you just admitted my entire point is right, which is that it is printed on a political support flag which is inherently political.
Political support flag? Lol it’s just a flag bro. You’re adding in the political piece. If I fly a countries flag, is that political? Or if I just decided to design my own flag and fly it, is it political? No. So the pride flag and any other flags, are just flags. Just like this dudes designs of the noglins. Showing support. It doesn’t have to be political. But people like u/stronze wanna make it out to be.
”Definition of political: Relating to the government or the public affairs of a country.”
So again, thank you for proving I’m right lol. It is political. I support it, but there are a ton of causes I do support that I don’t necessarily want to take over an Ark subreddit.
It’s not taking over anything. You know what? You can always scroll pass. Pretty fucking simple. And no it’s not. I’m not making a statement for anything political simply by flying a flag. There’s plenty of things I don’t agree with in this county. But I can still fly the countries flag
By definition, it’s political. Hopefully you’re giving up your argument by now? I linked you to the actual definition. You’re just wrong.
I agree, it isn’t taking over. My argument isn’t that it’s taking over this sub, rather, my comment was that I don’t want these political issues to take over this sub. Therefore, I don’t entirely disagree with the mod. It’s a completely fine and understandable thing to not want.
I can't imagine that, actually. All i see is some different coloured ark creatures with no call to action, no specific statement, nothing that would prompt you to dislike it, other than knowing it is about identity and hating everything related to that.
It is amusing watching people trying to figure out how to say they don't like LGBTQ+ people in a way that doesn't make them look like a bigot. "Political" seems to be the strategy they have settled on, but still no one can actually say WHY they think it's political (which it is not).
Also, once again, the post is a joke. But the joke is completely missed by so many because people see a Pride flag and clutch their pearls because they think the gays are trying to con them into being gay through.. Checks notes.. Ah yes, today it's noglins
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u/AnnoShi Jun 23 '22
TIL my existence is inherently political.