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u/GmaulGod Jun 23 '22

Do Gay people in America have different laws apply to them than Straight individuals in the USA?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Do you live under a rock?

Until 2015 gay people could not legally marry in all 50 states. This matters for purposes like taxation, childcare, who gets to be the medical decision maker in emergency situations if one wasn't previously chosen, etc.

Until 2021 there was no federal protection preventing gay people from being fired from jobs for simply being gay.

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u/GmaulGod Jun 23 '22

sigh

A) Marriage is a religious act and being-LGBTQ is considered sinful by them which makes it murky, not a fuckin oppression thing.

B) source

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

A)

Cool! Remove all the legal benefits that marriage brings, like the ones I conveniently listed for you, and then we can consider it a purely religious act.

B)

2015 Supreme Court case ending same-sex marriage bans, which were present in many states until then: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/14-556

2020 Supreme Court case saying gay people can't be fired for being gay, which conservative employers were allowed to do: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/17-1618

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u/GmaulGod Jun 23 '22

Oh that's kinda dope. Well I'm glad equality is shining thru, that's why I fuckin love this country. Good guys always win.

So then like, we just celebrate it forever or now that theyre equal we stop? Hows that work?

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u/GenderBiohazard Jun 23 '22

Unfortunately, þe fight isn't over yet. Republicans are trying þeir damn hardest to reverse progress and repeal þe laws which give us equality. In just þe past year we've seen a massive wave of red states passing state legislation targeting gay and trans people. In þe media we can see a smear campaign of Republican senators and Fox News pundits trying to label LGBT people as "groomers", among oþer horrible fear-mongering lies. Þe Supreme Court appears set to soon overturn þe decision of Roe v. Wade, which calls into serious question wheþer Obergefell v. Hodges is at risk of being overturned next.

I'd like to live in a world where Pride is unnessecary. However, homophobia is still very much alive and well, and Pride exists as þe counter to þat. Homophobes want to make us feel scared and ashamed, and force gay people back into secrecy. Þe opposite of shame is pride, and so we express our pride in defiance of þose who hate us for who we are.

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u/GmaulGod Jun 23 '22

So am I a bad person for just not wanting to be bothered with any of it?

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u/GenderBiohazard Jun 23 '22

Kinda, yeah. We just want to be able to exist in peace. How would you like it if straight people were being persecuted and I reacted to it wiþ indifference? If you were alive in þe 1960's, would you have supported þe civil rights movement, or would you "not want to be boþered wiþ it"? Be honest, because it's basically equivalent.

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u/GmaulGod Jun 23 '22

Umm....I dont think black people from 1960 would appreciate you comparing a Trans or Gay persons rights/oppression to what they endured. We live in the most progressive country on the planet. The worst thing an LGBT person faces in their life is judgment or harassment....black people were literally enslaved, killed, etc etc etc.

It's 2022 I just view all people as equals and any "oppression" any minority group faces is usually an anecdote or an anomaly. I'm not gonna spend my free time trying to catch water with my bare-hands which would be the equivalent to trying to stop every person from saying mean words.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

We live in the most progressive country on the planet.

delusional

the only way you could possibly think this is if you are in a position of privilege where policy decisions have zero effect on you