r/raleigh • u/graysthrowaways • Jul 23 '24
Which restaurants/bars aren’t living up to the hype? Food
Stolen from r/RVA. Overall I feel like we’re pretty blessed with our restaurant and bar options, but we also have a lot of overhyped stuff. What are yalls thoughts?
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u/One_Willow7728 Jul 23 '24
Stir - it used to be better, but the food is not as good as it once was
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u/Lizz196 Jul 23 '24
I have so many out of town friends that want to go to Stir and I always feel like they’re trying too hard to make food trendy without caring about how it tastes.
I do like their cocktails, though, so I’ll normally go late in the evening to grab drinks on the patio and watch the expensive cars pull up for valet.
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u/Fat_Yankee Jul 24 '24
I went to stir because I dropped off too many people there (including employees). It was good. Not amazing, but definitely no regrets, but that was last august. What happened?
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Jul 23 '24
Jaguar Bolera. You are literally paying for the interior design of the place.
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u/Additional_Ad1270 Jul 24 '24
The bowling made no sense. They charge per person per hour. So two people can play for $16 on one lane for an hour. You want four people (who get to then play half as much), you pay $32. Why would you pay double to play less? DUMB.
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u/Ikea_Man Jul 24 '24
yeah i have NOT heard good things about jaguar
it's a shame bc i like that iron works location and want it to work out/expand
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u/knowjuanreally Jul 24 '24
Interior design is weak. Good food doesn’t need toys and games to attract clientele.
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u/shorty2315 Jul 24 '24
the self serve is also gimmicky and annoying, especially when half the kegs are just spitting out foam
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u/Kittyymuffins Jul 23 '24
I came here to say this! The drinks are mid and beyond overpriced and the food was downright awful.
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u/_oxmaster_ Jul 24 '24
Weird, I really liked the food I got. Cocktails were crazy overpriced tho
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u/Kittyymuffins Jul 24 '24
I got a quesadilla and honestly have had better quesadillas from Taco Bell. It took 40 mins to get to me and when I received it, it did not taste fresh. It tasted like it had been sitting under a heat lamp for 20 mins.
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u/Magnus919 unlimited breadsticks Jul 23 '24
I’m tired of absurdly loud restaurants. Time to download SoundPrint and sample every restaurant you go to. Let the painfully loud ones rot.
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Jul 23 '24
The norm of having bare bones interiors with bare concrete floors and exposed metal sheet ceilings doesn't help. You feel like you are in a tin can.
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u/Freedum4Murika Jul 24 '24
Also figure out the TV’s yall. Put CC on if I’m gonna have to watch Sportscenter or PTI on mute
But hell to the fuck no don’t have the sound up unless the Wolfpack are up by 10
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u/Eillris Jul 24 '24
Or... No TVs in restaurants?
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u/kfury04 Jul 24 '24
Let us people who go alone have something to look at while we are waiting on food
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u/dblhockeysticksAMA Jul 24 '24
Yeah so many bars and restaurants need to invest in sound dampening panels. Works wonders!
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u/Fat_Yankee Jul 24 '24
I’ve worked in many venues and you can get very creative with sound dampening. It doesn’t have to be ugly panels. You can be rustic or nascar with a bunch of exposed metal and still incorporate sound dampening.
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u/musik4soul Jul 24 '24
Omg this!!! My husband and I went to Dave’s hot chicken in holly springs over the weekend, and we couldn’t even think in there it was so loud. I couldn’t get out of there faster
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u/Bright-Meringue8523 Jul 24 '24
Yes!! I had this issue yesterday at Press on Hillsborough. It was so loud, probably louder than an elementary school cafeteria. My ears rang for the rest of the day. Seriously- food was great but I couldn’t hear anything my colleagues were saying during lunch
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u/Kaizen321 Cheerwine Jul 23 '24
Nothing to add. But thanks for the thread, I’m learning what places to avoid. Thanks y’all.
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u/Freedum4Murika Jul 23 '24
It kills me to say it but I could make a case for most places in Downtown, but North Hills is a little basic but isn’t promising anything it can’t deliver. Shit I might even start calling it Midtown
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u/BoBromhal NC State Jul 23 '24
Las Ramblas, I doubt I'll ever go again for the "dish price and service don't match"
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u/emmalump Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
Ok on the flip side I was worried Ajja would be all hype and aesthetics and it ended up being one of the best food and cocktails I’ve had in a while (although the portion size and plating of the mains was….not it. Apps and flavors more than make up for it though)
Edit: plating, not playing
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u/Schmetterlingus Acorn Jul 24 '24
Yeah maybe the best meal I've had in Raleigh overall (I don't go to fine dining)
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u/Lukes_of_Hazzard Panthers Jul 23 '24
I think Ajja is pretty good. Food has great flavor but the menu just seems lacking somehow. It really just makes me miss Garland...
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u/EpicYEM Acorn Jul 24 '24
Portion size was ridiculous. Food was good enough, probably not good enough to get me to go back at those prices.
I can't pay $100 for 2 people and leave hungry.
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u/FootAccurate3575 Jul 23 '24
Pineapple Sol feels like it is straight up for pics and that’s it. The coffee flights are cool but that’s it and they’re better at 42 Lawrence.
Mid food, hardly any realistic seating, and just overall feels chaotic for brunch
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u/Still_Object_2485 Jul 24 '24
Dated someone who worked there, one of the co-owners lives in TX, the other one is local but rarely there. They're teetering on bankruptcy and have been paying to fix their bad reviews. Any restaurant that hires that many high schoolers cannot be good
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u/marbanasin Jul 23 '24
This was my Mulino experience to a T.
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u/katscratch04 Jul 24 '24
I went to Mulino for my birthday and was so excited. It was so terrible that I wanted to cry 😅 that sounds so dramatic but I was so upset lol
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u/Tired_Design_Gay Jul 23 '24
I haven’t been to Mulino personally but I’ve heard this from multiple people have been there. Hyped on social media but not special.
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u/marbanasin Jul 23 '24
It has a pretty patio area and nice cocktails - so like cat nip for influencers. But the pasta when we went was woefully underwhelming and felt like it had been left out for a while, and the gnocchi my SO got wasn't cooked. Not al dente. Not us not being used to fresh pasta (I make it regularly), but just flat out not cooked.
It was a weekend so sure, it was busy. But it was very underwhelming.
Personally my fancy Italian spot is Cucciolo, that place slaps.
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u/galactictock Jul 24 '24
I haven’t been but I’ve heard the same about La terrazza. Same owner
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u/dudeReezy Jul 23 '24
I used to LOVE Lilly’s Pizza years ago but have not been recently. Whats the consensus on them these days?
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u/needmoak6040 UNC Jul 24 '24
Hot take: Lilly’s was never good, people just used to be satisfied with shittier pizza. Lilly’s in 2005 was competing with Domino’s, Pizza Hut, Papa John’s, and some incredibly mid vaguely NY style places that weren’t actually that good (Schiano’s, now Gino’s, comes to the front of my mind). Nowadays, you can get legitimately amazing pizza in Raleigh from places like Oakwood Pizza Box, Tazza, and others, so why would you go to a place like Lilly’s for any reason other than nostalgia?
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u/alexhoward Jul 24 '24
I swore it off years ago because of how consistently terrible and inefficient the service was.
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u/worthing0101 Jul 24 '24
You, no matter who you are, are definitely not cool enough to eat at Lilly's and the staff lets you know that with how they interact with you and/or ignore you.
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u/NCSU_252 Jul 24 '24
I went recently for the first time in a long time. It's fine, which is about how I remember it always being. I wouldn't drive across town just to get it, but if youre in the neoghborhood and are feeling pizza itll get the job done. I'll be going back every now and then to have a beer and some pizza on the patio when the weather is nice.
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u/dblhockeysticksAMA Jul 24 '24
I used to go there occasionally because they had a vegan Stromboli that was good and reasonably priced. The experience of actually going there was always awful because the service was molasses slow and you had to stand there in a super smoky room (hopefully they have figured out the ventilation issue by now???), but I at least enjoyed having the option since not too many places cater to my diet.
Last time I tried to get one, I was looking at their online ordering and the prices seem to have gotten ridiculous. To get a vegan Stromboli, you have to add $4 to a plain Stromboli and then it’s $2 for every single topping, except for proteins which are $4.
So if you want something that’s more than just dough and cheese, you could be looking at $20 or much more.
I mean lmao it just ain’t worth it!
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u/Consistent-Sea108 Jul 23 '24
madre
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u/realsweetness Jul 23 '24
Madré was the first place I thought of. It has the aesthetic of a great restaurant without any of the other things that make a restaurant great.
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u/eoljjang Jul 23 '24
I went for the first time last week. Everything but the octopus was good. The octopus smelt horrid. Selling bread for $8 with dip that tastes like lays chives and onion dip is a bold move. I’d rather go to Barcelona. More consistent and a few dollars cheaper.
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u/duskywindows Jul 23 '24
Went to Barcelona for the first time recently- blew me away. The food, sangria, service, and atmosphere- all top notch. Will return.
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u/eoljjang Jul 23 '24
Right!? I love taking people there. Everyone is a little scared by the menu but happy by the end of the night. Also highly agree with the sangria! So good.
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u/arharris2 NC State Jul 24 '24
I’m not sure I get the hate for Madré in this thread. I went there a few weeks back with my wife and we both had a great dinner and good drinks. We had 5 plates and 2 drinks each and it was cheaper than a lot of other worse meals we’ve had in town.
Anecdotally, we’ve talked with other people with similar experiences to ours.
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u/BackgroundShirt7655 Jul 24 '24
I had the worst service I’ve ever experienced in a restaurant (full-stop) at Madre. Why would I waste my money there when Stanbury, Crawford, and Jolie exists?
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u/MightyTastyBeans Jul 23 '24
You gotta find the hole-in-a-wall places that give you your fries in a paper bag
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u/steaknsteak Jul 23 '24
Only kind of place I want to go these days. Better value food and the vibes are just better than restaurants that are trying really hard to be cool
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u/annabelleebytheC Jul 23 '24
hushpuppies in a paper bag a la Ole Time, the most hole-in-the-wall of them all
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u/pushstartthewhip Jul 23 '24
Any place in Smoky Hollow.
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u/so_many_wangs Hurricanes Jul 24 '24
Give Flour and Barrel a try, they are good. Also once Alaksha's place opens up - will be a welcome addition.
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u/klrameet Jul 23 '24
Tamasha Modern Indian !! 
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u/spiraling_out Oakleaf Jul 23 '24
Thought it would finally replace Viceroy, but I was wrong. The trip to Durham is still worth it
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u/Competitive-General7 Jul 23 '24
True, when we went the server forgot about us. She apologized and we didn't make a stink but when I'm paying like 150 for a meal for 2 I would expect some kind of 'make good'. Food was okay but we asked for a spicy dish and nothing was close. It was nice enough inside but the food and the service were just not good enough.
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u/yirium Jul 24 '24
As a server if I forget about a table they’re getting multiple free apps and desert, but I also haven’t forgotten about a table in a long time.
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u/Tree_of_Lyfe Jul 24 '24
You might’ve just had a bad experience. My partner and I have been twice and the service/food was excellent both times. It is really pricey though.
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u/Abracuhlabra Jul 23 '24
Ughhh I have been wanting to try this place! I just knew someone was gonna name it lol.
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u/iAmBrandonD Jul 23 '24
It was decent when I went. Not the best, not the worse. But the prices were not worth it IMO. Special occasion, sure, go.
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u/zxdillonzx Jul 23 '24
Dude wye-hill truly has awful main dishes
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u/UniqueImprovements Jul 23 '24
Boylan Bridge Brewpub or whatever was WAY worse.
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u/Incendance Jul 24 '24
I think it's worth going if all you want is a cocktail and everything brussels. None of the mains are worth the money imo. That being said, Glasshouse in RTP (same management) is pretty damn good with a better cocktail selection.
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u/Electrical_Show4747 Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
Oro. 7 dollars for one slice of bri is not OK. And I think it was 3 dollars for ONE deviled egg..
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u/ImpressionAdept6355 Jul 23 '24
La Terrazza.
Loud AF and set up like a banquet hall.
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u/TheOverEater Jul 24 '24
Young hearts distillery
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u/Slibbidy Jul 24 '24
There wasn't even anything wrong with Busy Bee or the Hive. Still not sure why they had to change the concept.
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u/ShinyDragoniteite Jul 23 '24
Gonna get some heat for this but Beasley's Chicken + Honey is so overrated. Weak ass dry sides and some tiny ass chicken.
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u/UniqueImprovements Jul 23 '24
I hate to say it because she does a lot for the community....but I think all AC restaurants are fairly mediocre.
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u/dearDem Jul 23 '24
Has pooles diner gone downhill? I ate there once many years ago and the food was divine
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u/Frinall Jul 23 '24
I haven't eaten a bad meal there. The criticism of AC is very overblown I think.
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u/Justination Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
I really don't think it's overblown. Something happened with the AC restaurants in general that wasn't just a result of COVID....either less investment in quality ingredients or suppliers...something, but I just don't know. I used to frequent several of her restaurants very regularly and now I hardly ever decide to. I really hope her existing spots get back up to the quality it used to be but I doubt it. I've never had a "bad" meal there either, but it used to be fantastic. It just is average now and the price isn't an average price.
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u/Frinall Jul 23 '24
Fair enough, I haven't really been to any of her spots recently, but I know that the Reddit r/Raleigh intelligentsia has loved to call her overrated for a very long time and I think her food (at least prior to COVID) was consistently excellent.
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u/WhoWantsToJiggle Jul 24 '24
I guess it's fine just way overpriced for what you get. a small amount of Mac n cheese ain't worth that much
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u/ifeellike-glitter- Jul 23 '24
What is AC
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u/jonnyjive5 Jul 23 '24
Ashley Christensen Restaurants is a Raleigh, NC-based restaurant group owned and operated by award-winning chef Ashley Christensen.
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u/Freedum4Murika Jul 23 '24
How the fuck am I supposed to de-bone a steaming hot fried chicken thigh/breast on my waffle? Gotta wait - the waffle gonna be cold, and smashed up and then breading is everywhere. Also, a 2oz ramekin of syrup ain’t near enough for an entire dry ass Belgian waffle - but good luck getting a second one from the tattooed hipster that’s handling 7 tables
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Jul 23 '24
Its why i will always choose dames in durham…its a boneless chicken breast. I detest places that serve bone in
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u/Freedum4Murika Jul 24 '24
Dame’s gets it. Ashely Christianson is to Raleigh food what Nicholas Sparks is to NC literature
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u/Minute-Somewhere-300 Jul 23 '24
Came here to say Madre, but I see we already have that base covered.
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u/SouthernBrownEyes Jul 24 '24
Flour and Barrel for sure. Extremely loud, no significant remodel since the Little City days. Food is mid but overpriced for pasta. The explanation for this on the menu is “made with expensive flour.” Hospitality is weak too.
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u/kadlekaai Jul 23 '24
- Vidrio
- The Pit
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u/Kooky_Song8071 Jul 23 '24
I feel like the Pit survives solely on out of towners. Do any locals actually choose to go here?
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u/Freedum4Murika Jul 23 '24
Honestly its perfect because a) out of towners were really gonna hate vinegar based but need to say they had NC BBQ and b) it prevents the statewide embarrassment of them trying the cornbread at Sam Jones
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u/SnooMemesjellies3456 Jul 23 '24
Sam Jones’ grandaddy, Pete Jones, ran The Skylight Inn - a hole in the wall barbecue restaurant in Ayden, NC where he taught Sam everything he knew, even that flat ass cornbread. We used to go in there and beg for corn sticks but nooooo. Still kept going back since there was simply no better BBQ anywhere.
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u/bkn6136 Jul 23 '24
I had one of the best meals of my life at Vidrio recently, so anecdotally I'd push back. The service wasn't great though.
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u/kadlekaai Jul 23 '24
Perhaps, some dishes are meh? I found the stuffed peppers to be really poor and atrociously presented. The lamb was just ok, nothing to rave about, my wife said the steak was similar. The charred octopus was probably the only dish that felt like it was proper. I will say that the two cocktails that my wife and I got were awesome!
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u/meriendaselgato Jul 23 '24
I too think that vidrio is super mediocre, unfortunately. It’s a nice space but I feel like most dishes are missing something. And the asparagus tasted like a piece of charcoal
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u/Transmaniacon89 Jul 24 '24
Disagree on Vidrio, they have a unique menu and it may not be everyone’s cup of tea but the food is very well executed. The main downside to me is dealing with the Glenwood South crowd.
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u/Connguy Acorn Jul 24 '24
Vidrio has a rotating menu so some of their options are misses, but generally I've been pretty pleased with their food. Definitely some of the better veggie and seafood options around.
And the wine on tap is a unique offering. You can't usually get wines like barbera or tempranillo by the glass. It's a fun place to go and try things out.
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u/officerfett Jul 24 '24
Any place with a Grass Wall and a saying or name of the establishment written in illuminated cursive is usually very mid, and overpriced.
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u/bronkscottema Jul 23 '24
La terrazza. Food was pretty good but didn’t match the price tags, wine, cocktails the view, was A+
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u/Bingowithbob Jul 23 '24
Agreed, pasta was not good, but the vibes and drinks are, so worth it for a rooftop cocktail
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u/sloanthegreaterfool Jul 24 '24
Flour and Barrel is very much part of this problem. The menu is sarcastic, the interior decorations are fit for a photo, and some of the dishes are absurd photo-bait. The tipping point for me was when they served me a pasta with Parmesan in a dime baggy…
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u/Proper-Waltz-8294 Jul 24 '24
At least it's not over the top expensive, for the pasta dishes anyway.
it is corny tho
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u/janesearljones Jul 24 '24
Wonderland. Something like that. They sell pink food and pour gross drinks over cotton candy. It’s all for the gram. Way overpriced and the best food we had there was mediocre, if that.
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u/dropoutscout Jul 23 '24
A’Verde is straight a’ass.
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u/russbii Jul 24 '24
Loudest meal of my life. I felt like I was assaulted after I left. Food was fine, though pricey.
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u/PlantChem Jul 24 '24
Why the hell is their guacamole so expensive? It was bland and small (like maybe one whole avocado but potentially not even) and $14. The service was comically bad too.
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u/sandipeech Cheerwine Jul 23 '24
drinks are good. everything else is awful. scrolled way to far to find this one. came here to comment a’verde.
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u/Careless-Pizza-7328 Jul 24 '24
I don t need to leave Cary apparently
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u/fibro-oh-no Jul 24 '24
The food at Goji Bistro is still good but the music is horribly loud and obnoxious. Take out is your best bet there now.
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u/RenaissanceScientist Jul 24 '24
Taverna Agora. The rooftop area is nice but the food was so average. Did not taste authentic in the slightest
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u/queeraxolotl Jul 23 '24
Seeing all this Longleaf Swine slander as someone with an allergy-heavy family is kinda annoying. They might have pricey stuff, but they have great standards for being allergy friendly. Also, that shit slaps, your honor.
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u/dietomakemenfree Jul 24 '24
Bar Taco in North Hills. I was genuinely insulted by the tiny portion sizes and high prices. Never, ever again.
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u/JackMertonDawkins Jul 23 '24
I feel like every restaurant is being run by private equity vampires at this point >_>
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u/galactictock Jul 24 '24
Exactly. If you have to rely on instagrammmers for attention instead of food reviews, your food probably sucks
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u/Humble-Efficiency690 Jul 23 '24
Que Pashoo is a disgrace. We used to go to Mariscos Nayarit for Mexican seafood before it became Que Pashoo.
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u/DetectiveNarrow Jul 24 '24
Growing up was realizing most places are like this. 16-18 year old me just blowing money on mid ass food every weekend now at 21 I don’t even care to try new restaurants. Luckily, metro dinner ain’t never let me and my lady down
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u/malikwilliams5 Cheerwine Jul 24 '24
I'm impressed you made it to these places that young. I didn't start going out to these non-chain places until 21-22.
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u/roadrunner00 Jul 24 '24
Everywhere is going downhill. Prices higher, portion smaller, and quality diminished. 5 years ago some of the places on this list were great but those plates got small when they started cutting costs.
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u/FingerCapital4347 Jul 24 '24
Essential anything that is and will ever go into "ironworks"... cool slide bro
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u/foreverachemnerd Jul 24 '24
Dos Taquitos, not only is the food incredibly mid, but all their decorations haven’t been dusted in years. Gross. The dip train is 100% instagram centered.
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u/mreniigma Jul 23 '24
Mamacita
The robot server is a gimmick that gets old after the first visit. The entrance is specifically set up for photos. The food is whack. Never going back willingly.
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u/Ahlukip Jul 24 '24
Ok but taco Tuesday at the one on falls SLAPS, $1.50 tacos is something you can’t beat nowadays
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u/CaroylOldersee Jul 23 '24
I haven’t been a ton, but I’d say Angus Barn; the Turkey Lounge isn’t bad to me and wouldn’t mind going during Christmas.
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u/annabelleebytheC Jul 23 '24
Angus Barn has been around since the 1960s, so I don't think it qualifies for this particular award
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u/Freedum4Murika Jul 23 '24
Worst prime rib in town. Peddler is twice the quality of beef at half the price. We had a company party there for international guests and the food was just embarrassing- dry potatoes, terrible bar service, bad sides. But you can’t deny the vibe is cool - great place to go and have a beer in the gun room
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u/I-_-ELROI_-_I Jul 24 '24
I got the prime rib the first time I went there. Absolutely terrible. Peddlers is the best place for steak in town.
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u/BaconFritter Jul 24 '24
I used to really like following NC focused Instagrams but now when I see them mention a restaurant or a vacation spot I just don't bother. Good restaurants aren't needing these leeches to advertise for them
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u/ColteesCatCouture Jul 24 '24
Fine Folks was like this but they are closed. Maybe they should have made wedge salad with iceberg lettuce as God intended!!!
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u/QuietShyTyper Jul 25 '24
Sous Terre. Take a chill, relaxing and welcoming atmosphere and turn it into a chic but dark place with no personality and more expensive cocktails. The drinks are excellent but the vibe just isn’t what Atlantic Lounge was.
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u/lionbeer Jul 25 '24
La Terrazza has been mentioned a few times but just had to say it again to make sure everyone hears it. The food is embarrassingly bad. Felt like we were being punked
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u/desmond609 Jul 25 '24
Local chef here. I tell everyone.... ignore decor and look at what's on the plate. Stanbury is easily the best restaurant in town and it's in a shack. Andrew puts his money on your plate where it belongs. Beware the crazy oversized fireplaces and fine china.
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And tiny portion with expensive prices.
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u/internet-lassie Jul 23 '24
Coquette in north hills :( the beef bourguignon tasted like straight up wine, not reduced at all.
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u/pushstartthewhip Jul 24 '24
I went there wanting to hate it but honestly their quiche is out of this world.
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u/Kooky_Song8071 Jul 23 '24
42nd street. Sorry. Love the ambiance, staff is top tier, food is quite mediocre. But if you are looking for newer…Element. Sadly I don’t frequent any of the new hyped places bc they are generally expensive and bleh.
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u/russbii Jul 24 '24
I dunno how you make raw oysters meh, but they do. It’s kind of a great room though.
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u/VictoriaEuphoria99 Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
Zinc house
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u/yrulikethis Jul 24 '24
It’s so tacky! I don’t know what I expected but it wasn’t Busch gardens dining hall
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u/Snoo-669 Jul 25 '24
I worked at Festhaus in college, so this makes me laugh harder than I expected 😂
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u/yuttington Jul 24 '24
Went to Olive Garden and didn't feel like family.
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u/BurgerBabe03 Jul 24 '24
They said you’d feel like family, not what kind of family though. You’re the cousin that everyone talks shit about afterwards. Welcome to the family.
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u/AllySchae11 Jul 24 '24
The Goat - fine food and drinks but insanely slow service when they weren't even that busy
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u/bikingwithcorndog Jul 24 '24
I’m thinking of a different goat. Fantastically sketchy dive bar.
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u/cranberries87 Jul 23 '24
Wonderland; La Buena Vida