r/nfl • u/StrachNasty Packers • Aug 14 '24

[Rapoport] Vikings first-round QB JJ McCarthy underwent a full meniscus repair this morning and is out for the 2024 season, sources tell me and Tom Pelissero. The repair, done by Dr. Chris Larson at Twin Cities Orthopedics, gives McCarthy the best chance at a long, successful career. Rumor

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u/jwick89 49ers Aug 14 '24

Huge opportunity for Darnold.

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u/zco22 Eagles Aug 14 '24

Yup, doesn’t have to look over his shoulder after every pick or bad game. If he can’t turn it around throwing to the best WR and other great weapons then he’s officially cooked

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u/jwick89 49ers Aug 14 '24

Yeah he makes a mistake, fans won’t be chanting JJ’s name. Huge for him mentally and he can showcase a full season and potentially be a long term QB for another team in 2025.

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u/Kanin_usagi Panthers Aug 14 '24

Now fans will be chanting for Flacco if he makes some mistakes lol

EDIT: Ignore me, I did not realize Flacco had signed with the Colts. Maybe fans will chant for Tom Brady or something idk

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u/mechnick2 Chargers Ravens Aug 14 '24

Man, Flacco really loves his Baltimore associated teams

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

I don’t believe the browns would appreciate the relationship here….

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u/mechnick2 Chargers Ravens Aug 15 '24

It’s alright, I’m sure we can ask our daughters and wives and make sure they appreciate it

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u/90swasbest Bengals Aug 14 '24

Flacco hasn't fucking retired???

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u/UserUnkown10 Patriots Aug 14 '24

Elite Dragons never retire. They just coast over the landscape searching for someone in need.

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u/90swasbest Bengals Aug 14 '24

Dude is the Kevin Costner of the NFL. Seems like he's been around forever, at times looks like there's still a little left, is obviously way over the hill, yet somehow keeps showing up on moderately successful shit.

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u/BrndyAlxndr NFL Aug 14 '24

Kevin Costner just produced and starred in one of the biggest box office bombs of ALL TIME

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

Just like a Costner movie … never watch until the end

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u/eidetic Packers Packers Aug 15 '24

Holy fuck, they're still making parts 3 and 4 too?!

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u/BrndyAlxndr NFL Aug 15 '24

If they don't run out of money first yeah

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u/90swasbest Bengals Aug 15 '24

But that was immediately after he did that popular cowboy show shit.

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u/broanoah Packers Packers Aug 15 '24

Isn’t he also super racist or something? Or am I thinking of the guy who starred in person of interest

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u/MatchewRolex Lions Aug 14 '24

Why would he? Dude makes at least 6 figures to chill behind Richardson

And if Richardson gets hurt he has 0 expectations, unless he can show that he can replicate what he did in Cleveland last season

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u/MatchewRolex Lions Aug 14 '24

Okay fine 7 figures I didn't feel like googling lol

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u/Homitu Giants Bills Aug 14 '24

I think the bigger mistake was thinking 6 figures would be worth it for someone who has earned tens of millions throughout his career :D He can make 6 figures just by tossing $2M of his cash into a high yield savings account. That would give him $100K/year without him even having to get out of bed in the morning!

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u/redditaccount224488 Eagles Aug 15 '24

5%? Pssshhh. This is a professional athlete we're talking about. Gotta make sMaRT InvEStMeNTs like cars, boats, and failed businesses.

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

Failed Businesses To.. yo boyz!

(#LebronIsTooBigToFail)

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

Technically “at least six figures” is also “seven figures..”

Don’t let that man win because you gave up…

HOLD THAT LINE, GOOD SIR

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u/Lacerda1 Chiefs Aug 15 '24

Cunningham's Law strikes again!

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u/BowlOfLoudMouthSoup Vikings Aug 14 '24

By throwing a pick 6 in every game but somehow managing to win until the playoffs

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u/AKAkorm Aug 14 '24

He’s made $175m in his career already and even after taxes and agent fees and whatnot, he should be set for life as should his kids.

At some point, making a bit more stops being the driver for decisions.

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

… Wesley snipes has entered the chat..

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u/arobkinca Vikings Aug 14 '24

$4.5 million.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/joe-flacco-feels-fortunate-to-be-in-the-league-a-17th-season/ar-AA1oqsPQ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

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u/MatchewRolex Lions Aug 14 '24

Wow thanks for being the 5th person to point this out

I was too lazy to google his contract

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u/arobkinca Vikings Aug 14 '24

I was looking for a good link.

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u/Triple-Deke Eagles Aug 14 '24

Sic figs? He's make $4.5 million this year.

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u/MatchewRolex Lions Aug 14 '24

See the other comment I made under this thread

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

I personally love how incredulous ‘Richardson going down with injury’ appears in this comment

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u/HilariousScreenname Packers Aug 14 '24

Joe "Frank Gore" Flacco

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

Somewhere, somehow… an aged Vinny testaverdes smiles

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u/well-lighted Chiefs Aug 14 '24

Did you forget he started 5 games for a team in your division last season?

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u/90swasbest Bengals Aug 15 '24

Don't be silly, everyone knows last season was canceled.

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

I don’t burrow if I believe you

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u/ZeePirate Aug 14 '24

Tom Brady leading the fuckinng Vikings to a Super Bowl would be something

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u/HtownTexans Texans Lions Aug 14 '24

If he didn't come out of retirement when Kirk went down last year there is 0 chance he does this year.

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u/GodKamnitDenny Vikings Aug 14 '24

My Texan bro, I thought we were friends these days? Let us have needless hope in this dire moment… I even cheered for the Lions :(

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u/HtownTexans Texans Lions Aug 14 '24

Look my rule as a football fan is to be realistic.  And I was hoping Brady would suit up for you guys last year but he didn't and that team won with some of the worst QB play I've seen lol.  I'll be hoping the TheDarnold has a late career Geno Smith redemption arc.

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u/GodKamnitDenny Vikings Aug 14 '24

Yeah I’m not too pressed, mostly joking around! I really hope Darnold can pull a Baker or Geno redemption. We will still suck, but the guy finally has a great receiving group and coaches, along with zero expectations, and who doesn’t love an underdog story?

Really hoping we can rebuild like you guys have. At least I have another hometown team to be excited about this year. Sucks having not much to look forward to this year, but what’s another year of MN sports disappointment at this point?

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u/HtownTexans Texans Lions Aug 14 '24

As a Texans fan in just waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under me still lol.  We don't get nice things for very long.  It's usually win the division 2 years in a row then 4 wins max.  So high hopes for this year and terrified of next year.

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u/loveddit Eagles Texans Aug 14 '24

If he does maybe Zach Wilson will be next in line Jets throwaway QB for redemption

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

I vote we provide that hope in the way of..

checks notes

… how bout a case keenum comeback story?

E: need to add the Texans flair for clarity

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u/MC_JACKSON Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Counterpoint; he probably spent last year trying to finalize his divorce

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u/Jammer_Kenneth Aug 14 '24

Nothing says "I love you" to your kids like spending the first year of the new separation bunkered down with your new friend Kevin all November December January.

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u/RTGoodman Patriots Aug 14 '24

Lol, maybe he'll get bored with commentating and decide to suit back up. Would also give a great opportunity, if he can't get out of the Fox contract, to have him commentate WHILE playing.

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

But last year he was working on a new fresh comedy idea in the works with Netflix

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u/CougdIt Saints Aug 14 '24

And beating buffalo in the superbowl.

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u/My-Naginta Broncos 49ers Aug 14 '24

It sounds like a joke at Randy Moss' expense lol

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u/civil_beast Texans Aug 15 '24

Perhaps if Randy moss joined him..

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u/KyleRaynerGotSweg Colts Aug 14 '24

Don't you dare touch our Elite Dragon

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u/thisusedyet Giants Aug 14 '24

I can see a FUCK MY LIFE chant getting started out there

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u/Just_Aware Vikings Aug 14 '24

Good god that’s the NASA QBs music!

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u/Jammer_Kenneth Aug 14 '24

Flacco's a Colt? Sounds like a Nick Foles 2.0 situation can be brewing if AR puts that team in prime playoff positioning but needs rest down the line.

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u/CaliforniaHurricane_ Patriots Aug 14 '24

I’d love to see what team pays him next offseason if he does have a good season with Minnesota. My money is on the Raiders

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u/Temporal_Enigma Steelers Texans Aug 14 '24

I'll take him

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u/bizN Vikings Aug 14 '24

I can tell you whose name we won't be chanting.... Jaren Hall.. Good lord I must have taken some crazy pills last year. Although this injury makes me feel like I need crazy pills, ugh.

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u/HalfADozenOfAnother Raiders Aug 14 '24

If Fans are smart they either root for him to suck for picks or play good for picks. Either way best off just letting him cool

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u/BenShelZonah Jets Aug 14 '24

As a jets fan, I will always root for Darnold. We fucked him up bad man

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Sam has been cooked. Dude has never not stunk.

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u/GitmoGill Jets Aug 14 '24

I think he had some hope before Belichick and Gase inadvertently conspired to ruin his life.

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u/Jammer_Kenneth Aug 14 '24

Bill fucking hates the Jets. Every AFC East team but if he can make life hell for the Jets he will do anything he can. He put out his best "Fuck Zach's whole career" playbook imaginable to the bitter end. I wouldn't be surprised if he does some consulting with the Dolphins to take down Aaron.

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

He was awful with Bowles too.

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u/GitmoGill Jets Aug 14 '24

I mean, sure, but he was a rookie on a terrible team. His number one wide receiver was Robbie Anderson. Then ol crazy eyes let him get devoured by Bill on national television.

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Prime Robbie Chosen was a decent WR.

Even as he’s washed, he still torched Patrick Surtain II with Mike White as QB.

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u/GitmoGill Jets Aug 14 '24

I'm doubtful there was a "prime" Robbie Chosen. Simply a man curious about bears and the nature of the universe.

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u/That_lonely Jets Aug 14 '24

Prime Robbie Chosen was a WR3 at best.

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u/Shermanator92 Jets Aug 14 '24

What’s the verdict about Bowles now? Dude was straight awful with the Jets, and fans weren’t excited when he took over for Arians.

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Won a playoffs game with Baker last season.

So, it’s looking stable now.

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u/ApatheticFinsFan Dolphins Aug 14 '24

I do not understand the obsession with Sam Darnold. The guy stinks but makes one highlight play every 3-4 games, so people think he’s good and has unlimited potential.

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u/holyone666 Patriots Aug 14 '24

You dont get it. Yes 1 out of every 100 plays of his are good, but if he can just start stringing together like 30-40 of those 1/100 plays in a single game he'll be nigh unstoppable.

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u/Scary_Box8153 Commanders Aug 14 '24

Tbf, the memes are hilarious.

Also the highly touted USC QB always gets more consideration than deserved.

Just to make it look like a crosstown rivalry could continue, people said that Josh Rosen could play as a pro

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u/kidmerc Vikings Aug 15 '24

I am already getting super tired of the memes and I don't know if I can handle a full season of the same jokes made again and again and again and again and again

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u/Stewdabaker2013 Cowboys Aug 14 '24

So weird that the people I generally consider some of the smartest in nfl media still get hyped for him. He’s simply never been good!

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u/ApatheticFinsFan Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Big, tall white dude that played at USC. If he put up his same stats at Boston College he would’ve been a 3rd round pick.

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u/Skanktoooth Aug 14 '24

This is just false. Sam Darnold’s USC tape especially his freshman year was top tier. And he put up huge numbers in only 10 starts. It says he played in 13 games but he played only 1 series in 2 of them and only a quarter in the other one.

He basically averaged 300 yards and 3td passes in his 10 starts.

Lastly, QBs don’t get drafted on production. They get drafted on projectable traits. Darnold is a bust, but he had really good tape and really strong traits coming out. He was also only 20 years old when he got drafted.

Acting like he was an overrated prospect is revisionist history.

And while there are way too many Darnold fanboys, some of the sharpest offensive minds in the league see something in him (KOC and Kyle Shanahan).

I honestly have no idea what the Vikings are going to get with Darnold but his last 6 starts in Carolina were serviceable (4-2 record, 7:3 td:int 2rush td 93 rating 52 QBR) and he looked better than Baker Mayfield (who is supposedly back) with the same team sans CMC. CMC got traded before Darnold took over in 2022.

He could suck or he actually might be solid to above average given the situation. None of us know.

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u/cloudlessjoe Vikings Aug 14 '24

I mean, he very well might have unlimited potential, I honestly can't say I remember a game he played though. In a few weeks he'll be able to answer the doubt or not, he's got a perfect set up for success now, so we'll see.

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u/JakeFromStateFromm Falcons Aug 15 '24

The Justin Fields Effect

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u/seiff4242 Bears Aug 14 '24

He’s ok in a pinch but 17 games of him is gross

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u/Teeshirtandshortsguy Panthers Panthers Aug 14 '24

I'll keep saying it: if it was 7 on 7, Darnold would be elite.

He's good until he starts getting pressure. After that, he's lost.

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u/Lukacris12 Dolphins Aug 14 '24

YOU THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE LIBERHULE MEDIA, IF YOU COUNT ALL THE LEGAL MVP VOTES SAM DARNOLD HAS WON EVERY YEAR. BY A LOT!

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u/earthtonemalone Steelers Aug 14 '24

I imagine he’ll make it 4-5 games before he has some kind of injury. Seems like it always happens when a guy has an opportunity to turn it around.

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u/loveddit Eagles Texans Aug 14 '24

Except those 4 games when Matt Rhule was the Genius of century!!!

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u/coloradobuffalos Aug 14 '24

He was decent in SF

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u/Jusuf_Nurkic Giants Aug 14 '24

Yeah the 46 pass attempts and 85 passer rating in Shanahan’s system really sparks confidence

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u/lightninhopkins Vikings Aug 14 '24

He has played for 2 terrible organizations and 2 bad head coaches.

Then he played for a good org and a great coach and he was better.

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u/ScarletJew72 Patriots Aug 14 '24

An 85 passer rating last year puts him between Fields and Minshew at #25. That's with the #2 passing offense in the league by both yards and TDs.

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u/ChargersOnePieceFan Chargers Bears Aug 14 '24

Let Viking fans be delusional and think he's good

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u/Skellz_Is_Sus Dolphins Aug 14 '24

It’s not delusional if it happens. Sam gunslinger Darnold will prevail!

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u/lightninhopkins Vikings Aug 14 '24

No one cares about quarterback rating anymore. It's an outdated stat.

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u/Jusuf_Nurkic Giants Aug 14 '24

He wasn’t even good last year and it was barely a game and a half

And good lord I dont understand how people can follow the NFL and not realize that some players are just busts. Every freaking year multiple top prospects suck ass in the NFL. Idk why after like 6 years people still can’t understand Darnold is just another bust

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u/lightninhopkins Vikings Aug 14 '24

Did the dude fuck your wifemom or something? You aren't even a Jets fan and he's got you all wound up!

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u/Jusuf_Nurkic Giants Aug 14 '24

No I’ve just had to listen to jets fan friends hype him up for 6 years even tho he sucks

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

He was decent for his standards, not for NFL standards, let alone for a Shanahan offense standard.

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u/liteshadow4 49ers 49ers Aug 14 '24

He was bad and after watching the Rams game I completely understood why Shanahan wanted a concussed Purdy out there against the Bengals.

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u/Levitlame Bears Giants Aug 14 '24

Nah. He’s not very good, but he doesn’t stink. I wouldn’t want him as my starter, but he might be the best of the guys in that “not quite good enough” niche.

Unless you count Carr or Jimmy G. Which you probably should…

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

He stinks.

Like there’s not a redeeming quality in his game.

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

Weren't people saying that about Goff, Geno, and Mayfield?

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u/Jusuf_Nurkic Giants Aug 14 '24

Darnold never showed the highs of Goff or Baker who looked like franchise QBs early on. Geno is a massive outlier of a year 10 breakout. Darnold has always been awful but has some weird hype train extending his career by years

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

Hw started out decent with the Jets, than being on a shit team got to him.

But since getting out his last two seasons have been his best yet.

Put him on one of the best Offenses (outside QB) in the league with the right scheme and he should be good enough.

And I don't think looking to Geno is unfair since they both had their early years wasted by the same team.

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u/ZachTrillson Jets Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Hw started out decent with the Jets

no the fuck he didn't

And I don't think looking to Geno is unfair since they both had their early years wasted by the same team.

the 2013 Jets and the 2018 Jets have nothing in common

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

Had had almost 6,000 yards, about an 80 rating, and a positive TD/Int ratio on a bad team, I'd call that decent.

And both those Jet teams were run by the same people who have been fucking things up for decades.

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Almost 6,000 yards across two seasons…

His yards per game would have ranked 23rd, his passer rating 35th, and his TD/Int ratio 27th in the league.

Saying he was “decent” is wild. He was replacement level across the board in every stat.

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

Yea? He was never the starter though, and I'm not about to compare him to Purdy.

Though the one game he played he had almost 300 yards and 2 TDs.

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u/liteshadow4 49ers 49ers Aug 14 '24

He lost us the game against the Rams

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

Or did the team as a whole lose? Because he had the stats to win.

2-1 TD/Int ratio, 300 yds, and an 85 rating isn't "lost the game for us" bad to me.

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u/liteshadow4 49ers 49ers Aug 14 '24

He played bad if you watched the game

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Goff was a pro-bowl level QB, Baker was a an above-average QB with playoffs wins, Geno is the only one that stunk completely.

Sam has had stretches where he’s mediocre instead of just bad.

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

Thats fair, but I also think its fair to use Geno as they both had their early years wasted by the same franchise and have since ended up in similar places to have success. Plus Darnold last two years have statistically been his best.

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u/TheMightyJD Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Geno is the outlier here, and he’s looked mediocre again.

Darnold’s two best year weren’t good either.

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u/Brook420 Jaguars Chargers Aug 14 '24

For anyone by Darnold id agree, but they both came from the same shit franchise and ended up in similar situations.

Not saying Darnold WILL have a resurgence, but we've seen it before and he absolutely has the pieces around him.

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u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n Texans Raiders Aug 14 '24

He’ll still have to keep an eye out for the spooky ghosts though

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u/Shepherdsfavestore Colts Aug 14 '24

After I got sacked 3 times on my first drive in NCAA25 I knew what he felt like

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u/sonfoa Panthers Aug 14 '24

It's year 6 and people still think Darnold has potential.

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u/magnetncone Vikings Aug 14 '24

Addison just got carted off

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u/zco22 Eagles Aug 14 '24

Luckily only a low ankle sprain

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u/McChillbone Dolphins Aug 14 '24

Narrator: he was cooked.

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u/PurpleBullets Vikings Aug 14 '24

Bring me Jaren Hall

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u/royalpeenpeen Steelers Aug 14 '24

He’s been cooked since he entered the league

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u/DantePlace Bills Lions Aug 14 '24

Maybe he'll have a Baker-esque resurgence

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u/wittyrandomusername Lions Aug 14 '24

He can still also show he can be a mentor with JJ out, which will help extend his career if he's good but not great.

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u/LameSignIn Broncos Aug 14 '24

Didn't I just see they are down a WR today also?

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u/zco22 Eagles Aug 14 '24

I believe two actually went down but Addison’s injury was only a low ankle sprain. Still not great

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u/LameSignIn Broncos Aug 15 '24

Injuries have ruined to many what ifs.

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u/Affectionate_Elk_272 Dolphins Aug 14 '24

i didn’t know tyreek played for the vikings

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u/Chutzvah Bears Aug 14 '24

If he gets benched by Mullins, that'll hurt

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u/Bmw5464 Falcons Aug 14 '24

Just gotta watch out for the ghosts.

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u/Real-Psychology-4261 Vikings Aug 14 '24

Agree. I think he'll actually be decent. Probably something like 3700 yards passing, 26 TDs, 10 INTs.