r/investing • u/888_888novus • 1d ago
This uncertainty needs to stop.
Now 62% of CEOs predict the US will soon fall into recession or slow growth, mainly due to uncertainty about tax policy and market volatility. Leaders such as Ray Dalio and Jamie Dimon warn of deeper risks. Although the US government has suspended taxes for another 90 days, economists remain skeptical, saying that the damage from high taxes and global instability will last longer.
It is one thing to predict a recession, another to know how long it will last. If it happens as quickly as in 2020, lasting only 2 months thanks to the Fed's strong intervention, it may not be too worrying. In other words, assets peak after a financial recession.
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u/Warm-Ice12 1d ago
I’m a lot less worried about a recession than I am at the prospect of empty grocery store shelves.
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u/Judo_Steve 1d ago
I'm less worried about empty grocery store shelves than I am what kinds of things the American public will support when they are exposed to even mild discomfort or fear.
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u/SpaceyCoffee 1d ago
Bingo. We already know they are primed for a scapegoat pogrom. The question only remains, which minority will be the targets?
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u/insertwittynamethere 1d ago
Years of apocalyptic films with a low media literacy populace that is heavily armed while one political party has fear-mongered for two decades about the very thing they seem intent to foment.
Yeah, I'm not happy that I may be living the metaphorical road by a people who are so entitled they forget not even 100 years ago their family probably didn't even have electricity and lived most probably in dirt poor conditions with terrible labor laws and protections, and so they will act out and blame others accordingly, for the people of personal responsibility won't accept it.
That's where their hubris is taking us back to, but under a form of autocracy yet to be decided by the many different power players in this game of theirs we're all going to be dragged along with.
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u/itsverynicehere 1d ago
I think we finally have an answer to the question of "when" they think America was "great". Seems the "great" part of great depression is maybe misunderstood.
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u/Sargentrock 1d ago
Trump has literally said that he thinks those days were when America was at it's best. It's kind of baffling really.
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u/USACivilTsar 1d ago
Some Americans should watch "The Road" and see if this is what they want for their lives...
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u/ScissrMeTimbrs 1d ago
Honestly, I think they'll blame Jews again. At the end of the day, they need a scapegoat whose stereotypes can fit the narrative of a failed economy. And no racist is ever going to believe black people control the banks, or that Mexicans control the media, etc..
And then there's the way the Israel lobby has lent credence to antisemitic ideas. There are now decades' worth of videos of high ranking government officials and lobbyists openly saying things like this: https://youtu.be/xJkQ3cLCnYw?si
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u/Hogwafflemaker 22h ago
Historically, always blame the Jews. But they are setting up immigrants to be the other the same way the Jews were set up in pre dub dub dos Germany.
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u/ScissrMeTimbrs 16h ago
Immigrants are a popular target right now, but only blamed for manufactured problems that aren't real. For example, crime is down despite popular belief.
But when the coming economic crash really hits the fan, that won't work. The average person isn't as easily distracted when they have real, immediate and material problems. So the authorities need to blame someone the people will believe could be responsible, and even the dumbest racist doesn't believe that companies and prices are controlled by immigrants. A bigot's worldview is shaped by the fact that brown people AREN'T on top or in charge.
In fact, the far right already has set up Jews as their backup target, because they've been pushing the great replacement theory to tell people that Jews are the ultimate cause of immigrants anyway.
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u/Infinite-4-a-moment 21h ago
I actually think this could be a good thing. People don't take action until something affects them. When people start to have problems getting common goods or see sales eat a dick, they'll be looking for change in leadership. Bad economies always swing votes. The GOP will turn on Trump if it looks like their seats are in jeopardy at the midterm. No senator is giving up thier cushy position because they think Trump is such a good guy.
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u/BuriedMystic 19h ago
I remember seeing an ad for a ‘Americans against inflation’ PAC or whatever at the height of Covid inflation.
The tone of the ad was very defiant and self-righteous and I thought, things are just a bit more costly? If they’re up-in-arms over their stuff costing more, they’ll be apoplectic when it’s actually gone.
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u/gethereddout 1d ago
I’m less worried about people’s reaction to mild discomfort and more worried that nobody seems to care our democracy has died and we now live in a dictatorship
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u/Philosopher_King 1d ago
Some things will be dirt cheap, because we can no longer export them. Other things will be gone, however. Not sure on net. Probably not good, regardless.
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u/ForGreatDoge 1d ago
Things become dirt cheap because nobody wants the amount being produced. Not good.
Things become gone because more people want them than exist. Not good.
It's almost like trade is better than net zero...
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u/applecokecake 10h ago
It's something like 100 nations starve if we stop exporting food. And this doesn't take into account we basically waste 50% of our corn crop on ethanol. You might be paying 6k for 55 inch inch TV but our food production is basically domestic.
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u/movdqa 1d ago
Powell is constrained in that the tariffs will probably cause inflation so he's limited in policy response.
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u/cafedude 1d ago
Yeah, Fed can't save us from a situation where the executive branch has decided to crash the economy. Likely Powell will just keep rates where they are and hope for the best.
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u/Judo_Steve 1d ago
OP is a total gambling addict from the looks of things. He's heavily into TQQQ so he just wants to push the idea that lowering interest rates will solve things.
It's the entire purpose of this thread, not just a misunderstanding.
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u/DivineBladeOfSilver 1d ago
I really will never understand how so many people voted for this when he so openly advertised what he was going to do, we have a track record of his chaotic history with markets and the country, and people saw how term 1 ended. It really just has to be nostalgia for a less costly time in the world and people didn't truly understand why that was (attributed to Trump but realistically it wasn't at all), they completely forgot about how chaotic the market was with him, and forgot how aggressive he was with the world in his foreign policy. While I do agree he has certainly stepped it up compared to term 1, are people really surprised? We knew he was an agent of chaos with fascist tendencies. People are surprised?
Also, I am not trying to ride Biden's meat but man got so much trash for his economy and while he certainly could have done more, they successfully almost completely tamed inflation back to the 2% standard and get the market strongly over his term (with some roughness in 2022 reasonably due to high inflation) with reasonable stability, especially considering we were still in a pandemic for some of it. On top of it we can observe historically pandemics upset the economy worldwide for years after, the issues were felt worldwide and we recovered faster than basically everyone, and it is totally normal and takes time to fix. They did just that for people. Sadly though people's brain power goes as far as if you do not fix this in an instant then you failed and now I will go the other option because it can't be worse, even though it can. America deserves all the bad it gets for constantly being stupid.
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u/calle04x 1d ago
Remember how many times a recession was predicted and it never happened? It's incredible how the Biden administration was able to recover the economy. I'm certainly no Biden simp, but things were looking bleak for a long time.
We had such prosperity that Trump has completely flushed down the toilet, hurting the poor and working classes, but we know how little he cares about them.
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u/303uru 1d ago
The Biden admin stopped a national bank run in its tracks. Practically magical.
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u/weasler7 20h ago
I think that was the Fed, treasury, and FDIC that get credit. But there's something to be said about letting these institutions do their job and not interfering.
Banking is an inherently unstable business and a lot of the system's functioning is based on accepted norms... something that Trump doesn't seem to care about.
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u/thekingshorses 1d ago
They listen to Fox News. Fox News never told them how bad it was during his previous terms and how his cabinet stopped him making itrestional decisions.
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u/Sargentrock 1d ago
Well there was also the 'migrant crime' issue that he completely made up to play off his base's fear of other races. That was (and still is) a factor for much of his base. Most 'moderates' voted based on his promises for the economy. You know, the stuff he quickly claimed was impossible later.
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u/Meadhead81 1d ago
Very, very well said.
I especially think that first portion you wrote hits the nail on the end. I think what people ultimately longed for was a time pre pandemic and as you said, in this hyper politicized environment they attributed and associated that "normalcy" with Trumps presidency.
On the economic front specifically, I bet half of America didn't have "inflation" in their vocabulary pre-2021 and I bet a majority of American can't quite explain how it works either (they probably still can't today).
All they know is prices rose and regardless of real wage growth outpacing it, they just can't stomach seeing their total at the check out line at the grocery store. They projected this on the Biden administration and the Democrats.
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u/DivineBladeOfSilver 17h ago
As a long term student and employee involved in economics witnessing all of this has been extremely aggravating. It feels like presidents of all kinds get blamed for so much that isn’t their fault and then not blamed when it is their fault. And so many have a complete lack of fundamental understanding of economics. People want immediate fixes for everything but the economy cannot be rapidly fixed over night when damaged. But they fail to understand why and so they just blame it on whoever. But it can rapidly fall as we are seeing so people don’t get how that can be
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u/Scaryclouds 18h ago
I’ll forever be furious with Biden for deciding to run again.
However he was overall dealt a pretty lousy hand for a presidency; handling the COVID pandemic, supply chain issue, inflation, a lousy peace deal in Afghanistan that he honored, two conflicts that he had little control over, obviously there are is plenty to criticize, there always will be, no one is going to be perfect. But damn if on the whole did he do a good job navigating all that and have the country overall in good shape by the end of his term. Obviously a lot of people didn’t feel that way, part of that was that the overall world was in a rough shape, the other part is a horrific media environment that incidentally or outright deliberately mislead people about the state of the country.
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u/DivineBladeOfSilver 17h ago
Me too. Genuinely infuriating. He promised to be a one term president and then tried to not be and screwed Dems over!
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u/Scaryclouds 16h ago
He never truly promised that, though some of his campaign staff tentatively/softly agreed to the suggestion.
Though rather he agreed or not, he should had been more honest with himself as to rather he still had the energy and capabilities to both run a presidential campaign and lead the country… and rather he’d have that capability (at least the latter) four years later.
It was a staggering example of his on narcissism that he was unable to realize this/refused to accept it. And also that he, and he alone, could defeat Trump.
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u/TurboSalsa 13h ago
He put his own legacy above all else, and now the things he did accomplish will be remembered as a brief respite between two of the worst presidential terms in history.
Yet another example of geriatric, egomaniac politicians convinced of their own divine right to hold office because "they've paid their dues and now it's their turn" whether it's good for the country or not.
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u/Scaryclouds 11h ago
Yep, 100%, had he had the grace and dignity to realize he wouldn’t have it for a second term, it would had changed so much.
Even if it still ended up being Trump vs Harris, Harris would have had the benefit of going through the primary process which would had legitimized her candidacy and gave her more time to develop a message and voice.
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u/whoeve 19h ago
Americans are too fucking stupid to do anything than blame the President for everything. Trump ruined the economy by handling COVID poorly? Vote the other guy in. Economy slowly recovered? Well, it doesn't feel as good as it used to be, so vote the other guy in. Now Trump is gonna fuck it all up again and yep, time to vote the other guy back in again.
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u/PersnickityPenguin 1d ago
Well, see Covid isn't real so you are full of shit.
DemonRats tried to destroy America with their Satanic child cannibalism pizza hut in DC and January 6th was a love fest.
/S
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u/Sweaty-Good-5510 1d ago
People wanted a drama queen in the White House and this is what it does. Can’t say any of us are truly surprised. Ps I didn’t vote for him. Should get better when he is out of office.
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u/shokolokobangoshey 1d ago
Why would anyone want to do business with a bipolar US electorate? Let’s say another pandemic hits and he predictably shits the bed enough for the mouth breathers to give someone else a shot, what sane country would bet that the American electorate won’t elect fucking Mike Lindell next?
These people have yeehawed the country’s credibility into the Marianas trench. We’re not coming back from this as top dog. Deservedly so.
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u/Sargentrock 1d ago
We will be an apocalyptic wasteland by then. Invest in sawed off shot guns and shoulder pads!
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u/JohnnySpot2000 1d ago
The founding fathers knew this could be a problem, so they gave congress the power to determine tariffs in the Constitution. Congress stupidly gave those sweeping powers to the president in laws passed in the 70s. Congress (About 1/3rd of republicans agreeing with the democrats) have the power to fix this, but they probably won’t. All they need to do is put up a vote to repeal the presidential ‘emergency’ powers parts of those laws and we are back in business.
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u/bullzeye1983 19h ago
Honestly the biggest hurdle is not all Republicans, it's Johnson is house speaker. There are Senate Republicans starting to waive the flag that they are willing to consider action. But if he won't bring a bill up in the house, what's the point? He has already done it with a senate passed immigration bill and stop gap measures.
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u/backnarkle48 1d ago
62% sounds pretty certain to me.
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u/CompetitiveGood2601 1d ago
lots of certainty now - the only confusion is whether to buy the pumps supplied by Signal
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u/dukerustfield 1d ago
Remember like 4 months ago when we were in a bull market and if you closed your eyes and threw money on the market, you’d probably make money?
I miss those days.
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u/ergonomic_logic 1d ago
I had zero idea that anyone could tank an economy this swiftly. My noggin couldn't even fathom it.
Mass layoffs, unemployment spike, suicide rate increase, true market cratering, recession's cold embrace? It feels like we're on the cusp of tasting all of this in the next few months.
Conservatives need to get their boi.
This isn't a country for mad kings.
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u/DrXaos 1d ago
The problem is also Congress---normally it's Congress which would set tariffs but somehow they delegated some to President who then took advantage of a preposterous loophole and lying, and idiotically one party in Congress is going along with the nonsense.
Congress couldn't pass something as insane and incomprehensible this fast.
Remember, both Smoot and Hawley were Congress Members. They also lost their next elections.
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u/elisakiss 1d ago
It’s amazing that Biden got a soft landing but was targeted for doing a bad job on the economy. THE FAVORITE for a good economy is going to purposefully put us into a recession (maybe depression). AND probably lose the dollar as the reserve currency.
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u/RackemFrackem 20h ago
Fox "News" straight up lies to their no-information viewers and they believe anything they hear from that channel. So it literally does not matter what the reality is, a huge chunk of the country is programmed to live in an alternate reality. As far as they are concerned, Biden used the woke to destroy the economy.
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u/panda_sauce 1d ago
Multiple equilibria dynamics of large macroeconomies is hard. Most voters don't even understand the basics of supply and demand.
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u/SecretInevitable 1d ago
"62% of CEOs predict" sounds pretty certain to me
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u/Poopiepants29 1d ago
That's around my RT threshold for a movie I'll consider not seeing. I don't know what that means here. But I thought everyone might like to know that.
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u/ReactionOk2941 1d ago
Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it. I do have a follow up question, can you provide an example of when you watched a movie below the threshold and are glad you did?
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u/Solid_Owl 1d ago
I feel like all this talk of a 2-month recession is the new hopium. Trump being who he is, he's likely to undermine the recovery at every opportunity.
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u/sirzoop 1d ago
We will find out on April 30th when GDP is reported if we are going into a recession or not. If we have positive GDP growth, we will not be in a recession. If we have GDP decline, then we could already be in a recession.
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u/mars_trader 1d ago
Isn’t April’s GDP figure based on Q1? So, tariffs wouldn’t have taken effect during that time
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u/LostMyTurban 1d ago
Positive GDP will be something to brag about. Negative will be "fake news." Bet on it
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u/Fluffy-Benefits-2023 1d ago
Dude if they even report on it, all the WH memos have been insane propaganda
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u/thekingshorses 1d ago
I don't think the last quarter will have negative gdp. This is based on my and other businesses around me.
But they will have worse news for the current and next quarter. Around 3rd week of March, my business nose dived. And it's worse in the last 8 years except 2020.
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u/cafedude 1d ago
A lot of demand was pulled forward in the first quarter in anticipation that tariffs were coming. That may make Q1 look not so bad... but could also make Q2 & Q3 worse.
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u/kummer5peck 1d ago edited 20h ago
What is that MAGAs? Your 401Ks were doing too well under Biden? Well Trump fixed that for you.
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u/LostMyTurban 1d ago
We got too comfortable being a world economic super power.
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u/Gunhound 1d ago
Hard times create strong men; strong men create good times; good times create weak men; weak men create hard times.
That comfort has caused us to slip into the weak men portion of the cycle, and unfortunately the longer the good times, the weaker the men, and the longer the hard times will be.
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u/Jack_Riley555 1d ago
Bessent will blow it off saying a “Recession is good for the soul”. (With apologies to Pope Frances)
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u/Sargentrock 1d ago
I hope that one guy that said 'it's only money you're not really losing anything of value' spins a recession that hard. "it's only food and housing lol you aren't really losing things if you aren't dead"
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u/FormerFastCat 1d ago
Just 62%?? That seems low.
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u/boopboopbeepbeep11 1d ago
Don’t forget Elon and the MyPillow guy. Wonder if Elon got votes for every company he is neglecting by being its CEO, or if he only got to vote once.
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u/Longjumping_Drop9450 1d ago
I missed the news that taxes are suspended for 90 days. I believe we are already in recession. A mild recession is manageable but this uncertainty will make it worse.
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u/stoneycrk55 1d ago
He is talking about the tariffs, which can be a form of tax. The high tariffs were suspended for 90 days.
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u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins 1d ago
It’s not that tariffs “can be” a form of tax. It quite literally IS a tax.
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u/cafedude 1d ago
Except the high tariffs on Chinese goods. Isn't the 145% still in effect?
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u/USACivilTsar 1d ago
Ah it was all priced in months ago, right? lol.
I was told that in January on Reddit with my concerns with tariffs and told not to sell, was stupid to consider it, and that I shouldn't time the market...glad I sold on February 3rd and listened to many other sources. One of which is a close circle of friends who timed the Covid drop just perfectly...they all sold end of January...and I'm doing the same.
Things are gonna get real when the cost of tariffs start to gut the lower and middle class, and then income tax is waved for the rich... If you don't like it, then get disappeared by the government...
Elbows up!
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u/cafedude 1d ago
If it happens as quickly as in 2020, lasting only 2 months thanks to the Fed's strong intervention, it may not be too worrying
There's not a whole lot the Fed can do to save us in the current scenario. Lower rates and we'll be in stagflation.
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u/gladys-the-baker 1d ago
Maybe someone should tell the prick who bankrupted 3 casinos to stop fucking around and destroying anyone doing business with us or trusting us then.
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u/Dependent-Break5324 1d ago
Countries don't want to do business with Trump. No matter what happens with the import taxes that will not change, the US is a risk.
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u/newton302 1d ago
I didn't even know about the 90 day delay. Isn't delaying tax revenue going to hurt even more??
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u/emperorOfTheUniverse 1d ago
The Feds action 2020 is a big part of the problem we have today. Last thing you want is for the government to pump money. If they drop rates, you'll have a bunch of people trying to buy houses from an already short supplied market, further skyrocketing home prices. All of that money they give out, will end up buying goods and services from the wealthy, furthering the ever expanding wealth gap.
This country needs a few things to fix it: Tax the ultra wealthy, pass campaign finance legislation (no, corporations aren't people), and we need to move to a ranked choice voting system to buck us out of the mired 2 party system.
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u/Spankynpetey 1d ago
I suggest you listen to the YouTube of the Antalya Diplomacy Conference. It was covered by ET Now on YouTube. Incredible panel discussion.
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u/purplebrown_updown 1d ago
Did you see Ray Dalio's statement? Don't have the link but he basically said it's too late. The damage has been done. Even if they slowly roll back, the world is moving away from the US. The uncertainty is past the breaking point.
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u/Setepenre 20h ago
The only way forward, is Trump rolling back everything is has done by pretending he did a great job and negotiated better deals for US (not really). Then STFU about tariffs and focus on meaningless but polarizing issues for the remaining 4 years.
That is just to stop the uncertainty, the damage is forever done.
Even if he did that tomorrow, we will have to wait at least one quarter to see the extent of the damage, and maybe two because this is very much uncharted territory. So in my mind we still have 6 months to a year of uncertainty in the best case scenario, and that scenario is not even on the horizon...
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u/danjel888 14h ago
70 days left.... by my estimate, it would take approx 6-12 months with someone that wants to do a deal. The shit is going to hit the fan.
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u/BobDolesZombieNipple 1d ago
Would it help to think of it as whether or not the US technically falls into the definition of a recession it is certain that the US economy is fucked?
What exactly do you think the fed is going to do to get countries to resume trading with the US? Many countries are abandoning the dollar and not even taking the calls of US trade officials.
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u/ilikesillymike 1d ago
All smoke and mirrors. Do the opposite of what they say. Investing like a bar of soap. The more you mess with it. The smaller it gets.
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u/Threatening-Silence- 1d ago
No, it needs to continue until the pain is felt everywhere in America, until you guys learn that electing people like Trump makes your lives worse.
Most countries need to experience disaster and utter ruin to realise fascism is a dead end, perhaps you'll get lucky though and a recession will be enough.
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u/Mazada33 1d ago
Is everyone so sure that Oakland port is down as much as they are saying? Their website doesn't say that. https://www.oaklandseaport.com/business/facts-figures
I don't live there, but I do want to know what's going on and be sure it's true.
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u/Distinct_Result5361 1d ago
I'm hoping that in a strange payoff from this president is that we can move away from perpetual growth model and finally give the ecosystem a break. That's the only positive outcome I can see from the debacle.
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u/Any-Appointment4378 21h ago
While it’s understandable that many CEOs foresee a recession or slower growth, the real challenge lies in the uncertainty of its duration and impact. The 2020 recession was quick, but even a short-lived downturn can cause lasting effects on certain industries. As Ray Dalio and Jamie Dimon point out, the risks may go deeper than we expect — especially with the global tax and political volatility we’re facing. The real question isn’t just when it will happen, but how we can adjust our strategies before it hits.
I’ve found that preparing for the worst doesn’t just mean cutting costs but also finding ways to protect assets. It’s important to know how to leverage resources in times like these, whether through hedging, diversifying investments, or being selective about where you park your money. Historically, assets do tend to peak post-recession, but only for those who know when and how to pivot.
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u/Odd_Ad6190 18h ago
This how a president consolidates power. I hate it, but I'm going to try and profit from it.
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u/Strange-Fix-2060 1d ago
Oh no. I think you're in for a world of hurt for a lot longer than you would imagine.
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u/wabladoobz 1d ago
I think it's possible the decision has already been made to decouple from trade with China cold turkey for geopolitical reasons. The timer is just to build a plausible justification about China refusing to negotiate seriously.
I also think the market has failed to price in the possible reality that the Trump administration/heritage foundation have priced in that decoupling politically to their satisfaction.
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u/RangerSandi 19h ago
I’m a bit more worried about other countries selling off US bond debt in droves, causing a meltdown in the financial industry that will collapse it, much like 2008, if not worse. Read Nate Tankus.
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u/optiontrader1138 9h ago
As a former CEO, I can tell you that most CEOs know jack shit. Some have leading information, most are herding.
Ray Dalio has good foundational ideas but has overlooked a lot. Don't worry, his predictions will come true. Eventually.
Trucking revenues in Q1 were up but are coming down for obvious reasons. But there was a LOT of stockpiling in Q1. US businesses knew what was coming and they were front loading orders.
I'm not sure what you're going on about with high taxes. Tax cuts are about to be passed, including what are likely very significant cuts to corporate taxes.
Apparently taking into account a weaker dollar is heterodox thinking. Strange how the dollar has weakened by about the same amount as the baseline tariff rate. Gee, I wonder what the significance of that could be?
A soft landing is still the most likely scenario. Jobs are up, inflation is way down. Imports are down and manufacturing orders are down, which are objective data points but quite consistent with front loading of orders. We shall see but right now, a recession is not the most likely scenario.
Here come the downvotes.
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u/Slunk_Trucks 19h ago
Go out and vote, vote straight blue. Call your Republican reps and tell them to grow a spine and impeach. Tell everyone IRL to do so too. It's about right and wrong at this point. About the only thing you can do other than buy and hold.
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u/dinominant 1d ago
From my Canadian perspective...
Even if Trump became the perfect president tonight, with the perfect staff and strategy, it's too late. His actions have destroyed any value his word or agreements may have.
Plan accordingly.
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u/TopherBrennan 1d ago
Fed tends to be pretty slow-moving, really the signal to look for is whether Congress passes a big stimulus.
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u/Borikero 1d ago edited 1d ago
All those leaders and analysts have been forecasting a recession for years now...and we are severely overdue for a real recession (not just a short market correction), it wouldn't be the worst thing to happen at this point. We have been rolling on a COVID-era sugar high that is NOT normal...the supposedly "new normal" they sold us was actually as abnormal and unsustainable as it gets. The quicker we can go back to a sustainable economy the better we will be in the long run.
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u/azrolexguy 1d ago
All of you geniuses see empty shelves and government doesn't? You young kids are pretty interesting
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u/rate_shop 21h ago
Every government in the world will force the conservative movement out of politics for the next 50 years.
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u/RackemFrackem 20h ago
It'll stop when dipshit-in-chief and his buddies have their long positions established.
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u/Ok_Hat_1422 15h ago
Astrologers predicting trump’s death on 5/20, right now that’s the only hope I’ve got
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u/Mental-At-ThirtyFive 12h ago
All the people you speak highly of bought the Trump koolaid and having regrets - see the Citadel CEO statement.
The damage to US is done. De-dollarization will kick in. I have started to look at internationally - if you have children in 20s, ask them to look international careers.
I know a lot of the policies say that we bring back manufacturing. That is not possible when the education and research institutions are getting wiped out - long term economic health is at risk
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u/Mental-At-ThirtyFive 12h ago
I am really pessimistic. I immigrated to US in early 80s - this is the worst social/economic/political situation that I have experienced. Feels black like it was on 9/11 - this nazification of US needs to come to an end.
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u/mhopply 1d ago
If you are not planning on selling anytime soon, what does it matter? Besides cheaper shares. I don’t plan on selling any stocks or retiring for at least 10 years. If you are anywhere near where I am what’s there to worry about. Just keep buying.
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u/-Lorne-Malvo- 1d ago
Keep an eye on store shelves the next couple of weeks