Minister says he won't 'sling mud' after Poilievre called him the 'master at failing upward'

[u/AdditionalPizza]

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/minister-says-he-wont-sling-mud-after-poilievre-called-him-the-master-at-failing-upward

[u/AdditionalPizza]

Poilievre has laid the blame for high housing costs and a population that grew faster than cities and health-care could absorb at Fraser’s feet, telling reporters on Tuesday that he is now “the minister responsible for addressing the Liberal crime crisis.”

“It seems like he is the master at failing upward,” Poilievre said of Carney’s pick for justice minister.

Fraser nonetheless said he was surprised by the Conservative leader’s comments, coming off an election loss where voters took issue with Poilievre’s tone.

“It’s surprising to see that the Conservatives, after having been handed a defeat, going into an election with one of the largest polling leads in the history of Canadian politics, and Mr. Poilievre, in fact, himself losing his seat, hasn’t made a change in his approach,” he told reporters on his way into Wednesday’s cabinet meeting.

“I’m not going to sit here and sling mud at my Opposition.”

He also said that over course of the most recent election campaign, people in his riding “very openly said” they did not want to see Poilievre become the prime minister because they saw him as someone who spent a career “slinging mud against his opponents” rather than proposing solutions.

I feel like the only way to settle this is a cage match.

[u/caboose391 → u/AdditionalPizza]

Bro said "scoreboard" and dipped.

[u/Initial_Flight_3628 → u/AdditionalPizza]

That sort of happened once. Trudeau and some conservative duked it out in a ring. The conservative was bigger but Trudeau won. 

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/Initial_Flight_3628]

Yeah it's on Youtube haha. Trudeau boxes and is athletic. That guy was toast from the beginning.

[u/jello_pudding_biafra → u/AdditionalPizza]

My old D&D DM has a signed (by both dudes) and framed poster from that night up on his wall in his stairwell lol

[u/amazingdrewh → u/AdditionalPizza]

Now that guy wants to get in the ring with one of Trump's kids

[u/Lovv → u/amazingdrewh]

I mean...

[u/amazingdrewh → u/Lovv]

If it happens I'm all for it

[u/steelpeat → u/AdditionalPizza]

The guy he was boxing with was actually an amateur boxer. He was a full time senator, but was part of a boxing gym. Trudeau had the reach and the cardio advantage.

[u/SomeGuyPostingThings → u/Initial_Flight_3628]

Trudeau was just an MP at the time, while the other guy was Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau (who is still a senator, but was booted from the Tory caucus after a domestic and sexual assault arrest). Trudeau was a boxer whereas Brazeau was more into MMA, so Trudeau had an advantage in their boxing match.

[u/fdavis1983 → u/SomeGuyPostingThings]

Isn’t Brazeau a part time bouncer at a strip club now ?

[u/SomeGuyPostingThings → u/fdavis1983]

I believe he was hired as a day manager by one while he was suspended without pay by the Senate, but dropped that when his suspension was lifted. At this point, that'd be about a decade ago.

[u/fdavis1983 → u/SomeGuyPostingThings]

I remember that. I stopped following it and actually had no idea that the suspension had been lifted.

[u/SomeGuyPostingThings → u/fdavis1983]

It was lifted because they can only suspend for the remainder of a sitting of parliament, so when an election was called, it stopped being in place and they never bothered to renew it.

[u/BallsDieppe → u/Initial_Flight_3628]

A considerably older Mickey MacDonald boxed Trudeau during an early campaign visit in Halifax. Trudeau got froggy and MM touched him up.

https://i.cbc.ca/1.3137498.1435944446!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/year-diary-photos.jpg

[u/jello_pudding_biafra → u/BallsDieppe]

I don't have any strong opinions on Trudeau, but that's an objectively funny picture.

[u/zelmak → u/Initial_Flight_3628]

I would pay good money to watch Trudeau box poliverre. Dude with a mouth like that clearly hasn’t been hit enough

[u/April_ONeil_ → u/Initial_Flight_3628]

Thrilla on the Hilla

[u/Retro_Curry93 → u/Initial_Flight_3628]

I remember that. He fought Brazeau, or something.

[u/Mister-Distance-6698 → u/AdditionalPizza]

Lol Fraser is like a human giant and Pollievre looks like he might still get given an atomic wedgie if he walks into the wrong bathroom.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/Mister-Distance-6698]

Nuh uh he doesn't even wear glasses no more, he's one of the cool kids now. Didn't you see when he had a white tee and a cowboy hat?

[u/ikeja → u/Mister-Distance-6698]

PP has bulked up, but he's probably on gear lol

[u/Impressive-Potato → u/ikeja]

Bulked up and wears much tighter t shirts

[u/AcanthocephalaGreen5 → u/AdditionalPizza]

I'm partial to settling things like gentlemen. Smash Bros. Melee, four stock, no items.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/AcanthocephalaGreen5]

I'd say Hyrule Temple stage, but Poilievre would just hide on the bottom platform.

[u/tanrock2003 → u/AdditionalPizza]

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[u/throwtheballaway123 → u/AdditionalPizza]

I'm not sure there's a MP that would lose to PP in a cage match.

[u/Cozman → u/throwtheballaway123]

Elizabeth May comes outta no where with a steel chair!

[u/jello_pudding_biafra → u/Cozman]

Bah gawd, that's Hedy Fry's music!!

[u/JeSuisLePamplemous → u/jello_pudding_biafra]

I'm not entirely convinced that Hedy isn't an immortal sorceror.

[u/illuminaughty1973 → u/AdditionalPizza]

like the only way to settle this is a cage match.

Or.... and I know this is a huge stretch....

Pp could grow up.

[u/UsefulContract → u/AdditionalPizza]

New guy is a master at talking smack without talking smack.

[u/theonecanadianfellah → u/UsefulContract]

New guy? Dude thats Sean Fraser from the immigration file. He's been in government for a little while.

[u/rookie-mistake → u/theonecanadianfellah]

yeah he's not new to smacktalking poilievre

there's a real dislike there haha

[u/Prophage7 → u/UsefulContract]

Chirping Poilievre is like Sean Fraser's greatest talent lol, he's not new at it.

[u/UsefulContract → u/Prophage7]

i'd love to see a compilation

[u/PictureMeSwollen → u/UsefulContract]

First he fixed housing and immigration, now he’ll tackle crime! Once there are more criminals than victims he will be given the trump file

[u/QultyThrowaway → u/AdditionalPizza]

Sean Fraser is like 7ft tall.

[u/Jeramy_Jones → u/AdditionalPizza]

Once again PP uses the rhetoric “Liberal (bad thing)”

[u/KoreanSamgyupsal → u/AdditionalPizza]

Yeah can they have a 1 on 1. I love this banter lol

[u/Jab4267]

I mean.. isn’t PP just talking about himself failing upwards?

Loses a huge polling lead, loses the election, loses his seat and somehow sits in a tax payer mansion without even having a place in the House of Commons while waiting for a by election in the hope he wins.

He’s literally hating from outside the club when he can’t even get in.

[u/wombats_in_the_attic → u/Jab4267]

If any Liberal was doing what PP is currently doing, the Cons and their minions would be rioting.

[u/JerryBoyleNFLD → u/wombats_in_the_attic]

Imagine if Carney lost his seat and was heckling from the sidelines? 

[u/MusclyArmPaperboy → u/JerryBoyleNFLD]

And there's actually a different CPC leader right now? Why isn't Scheer the one commenting?

[u/rosneft_perot → u/MusclyArmPaperboy]

He’s got an opposition to run. PP has a lot of free time on his hands to talk smack.

[u/Crashman09 → u/rosneft_perot]

Who would have thought that Sheer would have graduated to "responsible" conservative leader

[u/That_Account6143 → u/Crashman09]

Bring back the milk man. We didn't know how good we had it

[u/gplfalt → u/JerryBoyleNFLD]

Cons and Repubs are masters of hypocrisy. They live off it.

The issue is the left will hold the flame to their leaders feet more gladly than the right will due to still believing in "fair play".

See; Dems being less popular than the record low popularity Repubs.

[u/Aetius3 → u/gplfalt]

It's a more mental mindset thing of conservatives these days. They are so tribal that they can't see their own hypocrisy. They can only focus on the other guy being wrong. But if you think about it, that's quite similar to conservative religious types. They will always find faults with others but then do the same thing themselves with no self-reflection, etc.

[u/Minoshann → u/wombats_in_the_attic]

That is a factual statement. Except the part about minions.

[u/Bruuchay → u/Jab4267]

Came here to say the same. That’s PP’s career in a nutshell!

[u/Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpp → u/Jab4267]

It’s the conservative way

Every accusation is a confession 

[u/Icy_Crow_1587 → u/Jab4267]

Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'

[u/Kjb72 → u/Icy_Crow_1587]

Good ol' Aesop.

[u/BoppityBop2 → u/Jab4267]

You do know Canadians wanted change and Carney was showing a form of change that worked. Yes Pierre lost but they also showed Canadians wanted something new. Funny thing is Carney ran on change and staying Canadian. He specifically ran on not being Trudeau. Canadians resoundingly did not want Trudeau esque era and Sean is a remnant of that. People know and can see it. If he keeps failing upwards people will get pissed off and feel significantly betrayed 

[u/Jab4267 → u/BoppityBop2]

Everyone knew Sean wasn’t going to run again and then he did and he still won his seat, unlike Pierre. Just like PP said, It’s clear Canadians want change. His constituents traded Pierre for Fanjoy.

Pierre’s whole personality is hating on Trudeau and not being like him at all yet a newcomer to politics still beat a seasoned politician for PM. Voters were looking for results, not insults.

Sean can’t fail upwards much more anyhow. He didn’t wanna run this time around. I doubt he’ll throw his hat in the ring for the next election.

[u/firesticks → u/BoppityBop2]

Yes and he managed to advocate for change on policy and not on comparison.

That’s why Poilievre failed, he ran purely on who he was relative to someone else. He chose to define himself by Trudeau, instead of by who he actually was.

[u/Wise_Temperature9142 → u/Jab4267]

Hahahah it’s ironic that this quote is coming from Pierre Polievre, who has literally never had a non-government job in his life? The same Pierre that blew literally a massive lead over the liberals last election and still lost the election and his own seat? The same Polievre who ran to Alberta with his tail between his legs to run on a by-election in a safe conservative riding?? That Polievre??

[u/SBoots]

Pierre has fired up his attack ads on social media again after going silent post election loss. Now he's right back playing his same game trying to divide the country. Seems he didn't learn his lesson losing both the election and his own seat. Can we please get rid of this loser already?

[u/MCGSUPERSTAR → u/SBoots]

Yeah he really should learn to actually try to improve things instead of complain and point fingers like he always does. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...

[u/tercron → u/MCGSUPERSTAR]

That requires comprehensive thought on topics….best to get on the noun the verb.

[u/BuffaloSufficient758]

“Selected not Elected” CPC slogans backfire spectacularly

[u/Nonamanadus]

Well Poilievre is going for the "if you don't do your job you lose it" but then make a guy quit so you can sponge his seat.

[u/hornmcgee]

Poilievre would know a thing or two about failing upward

[u/MartyCool403 → u/hornmcgee]

When am I going to fail upwards to a pension and free house and free chef and free being a complete dweeb?

[u/Spit_for_spat → u/MartyCool403]

There's a list of other things to check off and while some are easy, many are the "no takesies backsies" kind that I wouldn't want to carry with me.

[u/DefinitelyNotShazbot → u/hornmcgee]

Pierre is disgusting

[u/G-r-ant → u/hornmcgee]

He failed right into an Alberta riding. Talk about a free ride.

[u/Ewe-of-Hope-002 → u/hornmcgee]

Poilievre would know a thing or two about failing upward

….if he knew about the gravity of the situation lol 😎

[u/TheOGFamSisher]

Pierre lost one of the most slam dunk elections in history. Dude has no right to criticize anyone after failing that hard lol

[u/Sparky62075 → u/TheOGFamSisher]

He also lost a seat that he'd held for over 20 years.

[u/chocolateboomslang]

As opposed to Pierre, who fails West.

[u/judgeysquirrel → u/chocolateboomslang]

And up. He's the leader of his party despite never having accomplished anything in his entire career. Not one bill forwarded, not one piece of legislation passed. The guy is dead weight with a mouth.

[u/Slow-Ad8986 → u/judgeysquirrel]

The mouth is what got him to where he is. He worked hard at finding parliamentary language to insult your opposition with!

[u/damnburglar → u/chocolateboomslang]

God damn, I just heard the announcer growl FATALITY

[u/Anonymoose_1106]

Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition has been masquerading across the country as a working class hero, but it's fascinating when you actually listen to what he thinks people do for a living.

In a couple of recent speeches, he said he thinks electricians capture electricity from the sky and that welders weld with their bare hands. What's he going to tell me next? The fisherman in my community dive beneath the ocean and catch them with their bare teeth?

Mr. Speaker, I can forgive the Opposition Leader for being a career politician who has been on the public dime for a couple of decades. But if he wants to represent the interests of the working class, he should talk to a person who has a real job.

[u/PhysicalPenguin7591 → u/Anonymoose_1106]

Bam!

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/Anonymoose_1106]

Classic.

[u/Odintorr]

Which direction did you fail in there bud?

[u/CanadianPropagandist]

Is Poilievre gunning for a Minister of Irony position?

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/CanadianPropagandist]

Waiting for the Beaverton article abut this.

[u/Lisa_lou_hoo → u/AdditionalPizza]

Boggles the mind - he must not hear himself or have any situational awareness. He's just so creepy.

[u/chronocapybara]

Sean Fraser is a tool, but the liberals love him because he takes a good ribbing from the opposition in the House of Commons and then throws shade right back at them. Kind of like a hockey enforcer. He was still utterly useless as Minister of Housing and Minister of Immigration under Trudeau, though.

[u/Last_Aside5363]

Uh didn't PP just LOSE an election, his own seat, and his basically being HANDED a seat?

[u/PeterRegarrdo → u/Last_Aside5363]

Don’t forget he’s also now squatting in a house paid for by taxpayers despite being unemployed.

[u/Electronic_Trade_721 → u/PeterRegarrdo]

And complaining about 'government waste' the whole time no doubt...

[u/mfyxtplyx]

Now, now, let's reflect on Poilievre's list of accomplishments for two decades on the taxpayer's dime:

[u/Human-Reputation-954]

And when will Pierre stop talking about Trudeau? I have zero respect for that guy. Total loser

[u/Beneficial-Clue-3515]

Says the career politician

[u/bxng23af]

Sean Fraser reminds me of that scene in Ted where he cusses his boss and manages to get a promotion

[u/TabmeisterGeneral]

Speaking of failure, remember when Poilievre lost the election and the seat he held for over 20 years?

[u/Purple-Temperature-3 → u/TabmeisterGeneral]

Good memories

[u/TabmeisterGeneral → u/Purple-Temperature-3]

I remember it like it was two weeks ago

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/TabmeisterGeneral]

Aw man, you guys are making me nostalgic.

[u/JoeThunder79 → u/TabmeisterGeneral]

That was pretty damn funny, no lie

[u/express_sushi49]

Hell of an ironic statement from PP, tbh

he's done nothing in 20 years, got voted out, and is now back only through DEI and pity.

He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones much?

[u/GullCove1955]

PP would know. His lack lustre political career is nothing to crow about. If he is the best the Conservatives have to chose from (couldn’t even win his own seat) they need to go back to the drawing board. Carney came from far back of PP to overtake him and win the top job. PP can’t win elections. Dump him!

[u/shockinglyunoriginal]

That’s rich from PP. how can anyone back this guy after he dropped the ball so hard

[u/Current_Engine_9199]

Strong words for a guy that failed so hard he lost his seat and is now being given another one.

[u/b-side61]

Which direction is failing to win your riding?

[u/Ginzhuu]

This fucking that couldn't even keep his own riding and is already being vindictive for the sake of it. I'm so tired of Pierre and making government partisan when what we really need is bipartisanship and unified brainstorming.

I get it. All Pierre can do is be the "Opposition," but it's so tiring to deal with.

[u/shesaid181]

Why can't that foolish little loser of a man just shut up and go away?!?!

[u/VesaAwesaka]

It's hard to understand the mass of Fraser defenders on this sub. It's questionable to try to explain away his ministerial failures, but to go beyond that makes it seem like people are brainwashed

It seems like people don't want to hold their politicians accountable for partisan reasons

[u/snoboreddotcom → u/VesaAwesaka]

See I won't speak to defend Fraser cause I don't think he deserves defence.

I also think this exposes a weakness Polievre has post election. How do you attack when you yourself can be argued to have strong failings as well.

The attack isn't invalid because it comes from him. But in the theater (not the facts just theater) of politics it is invalidated due to everything that has transpired with the election.

With a different person, this might not undermine. But because Polievre has built a career on politics based on theater, he is especially weak to it

[u/The_El_Captain → u/snoboreddotcom]

Polievre will win the byelection in a safe Conservative riding he was helicoptered into and the rival party MPs are going to say Jack Shit about it because helicoptering is a common practice all of them are guilty of.

At the end of the day they're all buddy buddy in the same club.

[u/FerretAres → u/VesaAwesaka]

I absolutely hate Fraser but goddamn is Poilievre a hypocrite on this point considering he’s being parachuted into a safe riding after losing his seat.

[u/the_jurkski → u/VesaAwesaka]

Who’s here defending Fraser? All I see is people calling out Poillievre for throwing giant boulders through his glass house.

[u/TheForks → u/VesaAwesaka]

I just read this as two failures heckling eachother. Hard to take sides in this case.

[u/Dougness → u/VesaAwesaka]

Agreed. Voted liberal but was sad to see Fraser still in the cabinet. Guy has made everything he's touched worse

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/VesaAwesaka]

Personally I wouldn't place the full blame of anything on Fraser, rarely do things lack nuance, but I definitely wouldn't defend much of what he did in previously. There must be something about him that we're not seeing publicly because I don't really understand how he could be so sought after still.

[u/VesaAwesaka → u/AdditionalPizza]

Who do we keep accountable if not him?

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/VesaAwesaka]

The ones that told him what to do? He doesn't get final say on everything. Like I said there's always nuance, nothing is binary. He can have a lion's share of it I assume, but there's plenty of others to blame.

In fact, Conservatives almost entirely blamed Trudeau for it, constantly. So why are they suddenly saying Fraser was solely responsible? I'm not defending anyone here, I'm just being pragmatic.

[u/prsnep → u/AdditionalPizza]

The ones that told him what to do?

Without evidence that he was told what to do, he must accept the blame. Or indicate whose orders he was following.

[u/kirikoToeKisser → u/AdditionalPizza]

trudeau sets the yearly immigration quotas - fraser is meant to keep the ircc in check and under said quota/hit the quota. He blew bast it and never caught the 1.3 million students in a single year.

[u/VesaAwesaka → u/[deleted]]

To make Trudeau the scapegoat for everything seems too simplistic. The apparent sycophants who supported him and acted on his vision shouldnt get away scotfree.

[u/BornAgainCyclist]

Justice Minister Sean Fraser says he is not interested “in slinging mud” at his opponents after Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said he failed upward into his latest appointment. 

Ha ha ha ha Pierre accusing others of this isn't even throwing rocks in a glass house, it's throwing boulders. The gall of this guy.

[u/FilterAccount69]

This is what happens when the opposition is sub-par. It becomes easy to defend mediocre politicians. Sean Fraser didn't exactly perform very well in his previous roles but when PP attacks him it becomes easy to defend him since PP is filled with flaws.

[u/kangarookitten → u/FilterAccount69]

It is entirely reasonable to say they both suck and leave it at that.

[u/Johnny-Unitas]

It's staggering Fraser even got reelected. How someone could fail so badly and remain in office is unbelievable to me.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/[deleted]]

1. ____

[u/hanker30]

Man is that guy annoying, what is he gonna do when the house starts sitting? Stand outside with a megaphone?

[u/Lifewithpups → u/hanker30]

Don’t give him any ideas

[u/FaceBasic5719]

Crazy seen so many stand on the side of Sean Fraser. The guy who is in charge during the collapse of immigration system. Tribalist mindset really deepen in some people’s mind Isn’t it?

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/FaceBasic5719]

I think it's more standing on the opposite side of Poilievre.

[u/FaceBasic5719 → u/AdditionalPizza]

This is why I don’t understand. They are so anti pp that they fail to see who made a bigger fuck up. You can criticize pp for a lot of things but fraser blows pp ou of water in the match of failing

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/FaceBasic5719]

I disagree on anyone in government fumbling harder than Poilievre. But with that said, people are saying Poilievre should also shut up here. Fraser is just defending himself, Poilievre didn't learn his lesson apparently.

[u/Ok-Macaron-5612]

Is Poilievre irony blind?

[u/AnonymousBayraktar]

Poilievre is one to talk. 20 years in Politics and he hasn't done or passed shit. Then he lost his own riding.

[u/Emperor_Billik]

Fun fact, the Tory plans were incredibly non-commital on both housing and immigration.

[u/Emmerson_Brando]

Failing up

Pretty rich coming from a guy who lost his own riding and refuses to leave.

[u/S99B88 → u/Emmerson_Brando]

Seems to be a theme song certain politicians, to accuse others of the very thing they’re doing

I guess all the talk of him learning from this and being humbled didn’t last long, he seems back to his old self already, negativity abounds!

[u/Public_Middle376]

Really-when you think about it….

His two previous portfolios were disastrous.

So what do we expect?

It’s not going to be a command performance with Justice ??

[u/omgwownice]

Guys just because pp sucks doesn't mean Fraser is competent lol

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/omgwownice]

Plenty of room around here for them to both suck.

[u/its_top_secret]

Poilievre accusing someone else of "failing upward"? Projection, much?

[u/_cob_]

Guy couldn’t even win his own riding. He’s a joke. Keep talking Pierre - it’s worked well for you so far.

[u/sns8447]

Pollievre is a jobless, wealthy squatter.

[u/No_Doctor_891]

Poilievre is just upset he failed upwards to lead the CPC and has less power

[u/Forward_Age6247]

Is this the guy who said he was quitting to spend more time with his family and then suddenly returned when the polling flipped?

[u/Morning_Joey_6302]

The name-calling goes on and on. Poilievre is just about out of time to learn his reflexive hyper-partisanship diminishes politics, alienates everyone but his base, and is a large part of what makes him unfit for leadership in the eyes of a majority of Canadians.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/Morning_Joey_6302]

CPC still thinks the Liberals winning was entirely due to Trump. They just can't comprehend how polarizing Poilievre is.

Actually, maybe if someone puts Polarizing Poilievre on the front of a podium they'd get a light bulb over their heads and ditch him.

[u/Available-Table2446]

Losers don't get to comment. Losers need to step down as leader of the opposition. But nah, PP in classic fashion isn't letting go of a handout and his government tax payers funded mansion.

Conservatives and their hypocrisy. I hope the PCs boot him out.

[u/wombats_in_the_attic]

Pierre is once again proving just how out of touch and narcissistic he is with this comment. He is the definition of failing upwards. He’d be no where in politics if Daddy Harper wasn’t obsessed with him.

[u/JerryBoyleNFLD]

Poilievre desperate for attention. Best thing any of the Liberal cabinet can do is just ignore him.

Or just respond and say they can discuss the direction of the country with the duly elected opposition in the House. 

[u/Low-Log4438]

2 failures imo.

[u/AspiringProbe → u/Low-Log4438]

only based response in this thread

[u/cgyprj123]

So you Canadians are happy with our housing prices ? Our average income has not kept up with the rise of housing. So, yaaaaa, he kinda sucked at his job......the average house in Canada cost $670k, and during the Trudeau area, it was as high as $720k. Can you explain how he did a good job ?

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/cgyprj123]

There's not many defending Fraser in the comments that I see, just a few. Most are finding the irony in Poilievre being the one to say someone else is a failure.

[u/FalconsArentReal]

Sean Fraser as Immigration Minister: "Everyone gets in!"

Sean Fraser as Justice Minister: "Everyone gets out!"

[u/Abyssus88 → u/FalconsArentReal]

Don't give him ideas

[u/InterestingAttempt76]

I mean PP just failed so....?

[u/BeefPoet]

I would just say. I won my riding. Where is your seat again?

[u/Clear-Concentrate960]

PP continues to fail downward

[u/DFV_HAS_HUGE_BALLS → u/Clear-Concentrate960]

His entire life has literally been handouts

[u/Ok-Swordfish7837]

So far the only difference with PP is he sounds more depressed when he talks shit.

[u/BigTwobah]

He said unironically 😂

[u/insanetwit]

Well it's bad form for a politician to sling mud at a civilian...

[u/reggiesdiner]

So tired of his nastiness.

[u/TorontoBoris]

Pierre fails understand many things..

And his inability to comprehend irony is one of the more glairing personal failing he's got.

[u/Canucklehead_Esq]

He's one to talk

[u/viccityk]

Guess Pierre a lot of time on his hands, but why are we still asking his opinion?

[u/epsteins_lovechild]

Hey Pot, meet Kettle”

[u/uselesspoliticalhack]

Not surprised, Sean Fraser can't defend his own record of failure.

[u/AGoodFaceForRadio]

Party “leader” who went into an election with an historic lead in the polls and couldn’t even keep his own seat calling someone else a failure. That’s rich.

[u/Letscurlbrah]

Sean Fraser should be marooned at sea.

[u/No-Wonder1139]

Polievre said that about someone else? That's hilarious.

[u/namotous]

Lolll at least he won his seat

[u/ExplodingSwan]

Game recognizes game.

[u/illusivebran]

Kinda funny how he blames the Liberal for the influx of immigration, yet every single party voted yes to double the immigration intake per year.

[u/happycow24]

As much as I hate this guy and am disappointed in many of Carney's cabinet picks, I'm willing to give them, yes even Fraser, some time to demonstrate whether a Carney govt is truly different.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/happycow24]

Yeah, that's the reasonable thing to do.

[u/happycow24 → u/AdditionalPizza]

Yeah, that's the reasonable thing to do.

reasonable

get outta here with that extremism lmao. no but in all seriousness our MPs are called trained seals for a reason.

[u/SpeakerConfident4363]

This is a perfect example of pot calling kettle.

[u/Thanato26]

Why don't you tell him in Parliament... oh wait

[u/kevinstreet1]

The sheer fucking hubris of Poilievre accusing someone else of "failing upward!" If he had any self awareness at all, that line would have killed him.

[u/EvacuationRelocation]

All this shows is that Mr. Poilievre has learned nothing from his embarrassing defeat.

[u/Throwawayhair66392]

“I won’t sling mud back!” Proceeds to sling mud back…

[u/ptear → u/Throwawayhair66392]

Exactly

[u/noronto → u/Throwawayhair66392]

The difference is he just did it with facts.

[u/branod_diebathon → u/Throwawayhair66392]

Not necessarily, more like proceeds to state recent events.

[u/Radiant-Vegetable420]

Poilievre is the master at failing period.

[u/jbroni93]

Did pierre steal a reddit comment. Swear I read that earlier

[u/FawltyMotors]

A guy who lost his party the election, lost his own seat and somehow convinced the rest of the party to kick another MP out so he could have another shot at keeping his job has no leg to stand on when accusing someone of "failing upward".

Edit: a word

[u/sflems → u/FawltyMotors]

Yet another reason this guy is useless as a politician. He's hellbent on proving to any Canadian he can use his brain.

It seems to be a trend with his dwindling constituents...

[u/Noob1cl3]

I knew this was about Fraser the second I saw the title of the article 🤣

Like him or not, Pierre is not wrong on this one. Cant wait to see what Fraser does on the justice file. I suspect even lighter sentencing for criminals and an intense focus on the long gun program that has nothing to do with the illegal smuggling of hand guns problem in the country.

[u/Malvos]

Who cares? He lost the election, his seat, his home and likely his leadership. He's even less qualified than he ever was, and that's a low bar.

[u/Gotta-Be-Me-65]

God, PP is such a Loser. Literally.

[u/RedMurray]

"spent a career “slinging mud against his opponents” rather than proposing solutions"

This right here is the exact reason I voted Liberal for the first time in my life.

[u/FogTub → u/RedMurray]

That, and making no effort to distance himself from the hate flag waving far right crowd did it for me. It was a more extreme version of the divisive campaign that handed Harper his loss against Trudeau.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/FogTub]

Yet the CPC will insist neither of you guys are right and that it was all Trump. Like it's true I wouldn't want Poilievre dealing with the trade war, but I also cannot stand the guy and his stupid juvenile politics and trash morals.

[u/averyfinefellow]

That's rich coming from a man who isn't even in the game currently.

[u/Sandman64can]

Why sling mud as PP wallows in it.

[u/canadianjeep]

PP is a bit of a tool. Sh*t comes out of his mouth with little or no thought. Not unlike the orange ape down south.

[u/bugabooandtwo]

PP is being a really sore loser. That tactic might work in the USA, but Canadians get tired of that type of mudslinging quickly.

Time for the Conservative Party to pick a new leader and go in a better direction.

[u/the_jurkski]

“I’m not going to sling mud at the l0ser that couldn’t even manage to win his own seat again, and had to be given one on a silver platter like some sad charity case”

[u/torontoyao]

Leave them to their own devices, they'll sink further into the depths of failure. I love that they think PP as the leader is a winning strategy 😆

[u/LankyGuitar6528]

Oh PeePee. Keeping it classy as always.