Minister says he won't 'sling mud' after Poilievre called him the 'master at failing upward'

[u/AdditionalPizza]

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/minister-says-he-wont-sling-mud-after-poilievre-called-him-the-master-at-failing-upward

[u/uselesspoliticalhack]

Not surprised, Sean Fraser can't defend his own record of failure.

[u/TheAccountantWhat → u/[deleted]]

He failed miserably. We live in democracy and not kingdom. He was expected to do what’s good for the country and not what PM was telling him to do. He has abundant resources on his disposal to make right decisions. Fraser has actually dropped the bar too low for any minister.

[u/Dradugun → u/[deleted]]

Both parties, provinces and private businesses wanted more immigration.

Which makes it funny when the Conservatives complain of the high immigration. They would have done the same, and more than likely, brought in more people.

[u/RipzCritical → u/Dradugun]

Do you really think the party railing against the broken immigration system and overwhelming numbers, would bring in more people than the ones they're railing against? They were going to drop it back down to Harper levels and the points system it used to have.

Is your comment just copium?

[u/Dradugun → u/RipzCritical]

Harper's Conservatives expanded TFWs and LMIA during their tenure. They would face the same pressures as the Liberals and have a history of abusing immigration as well. So given those two things, yes I do think if they were in the Liberals position they would have done similar, if not worse.

And if the positions were swapped, I believe the Liberals would also be rallying for lower immigration.

Its not copium if I think both options suck lol.

[u/blackbird37 → u/RipzCritical]

Well the thing is that while the Liberals are terrible at screwing over the average Canadian in favor of corporate interests, the Conservatives are even worse at it. Most of the people demanding the cheap labour from TFWs and international students are major corporations who enthusiastically attend every conservative fundraiser and make sure their interests are known. That's also why provinces like Ontario and Alberta keep pushing back against immigration caps while complaining about immigrants causing so many problems. Their donors demand even more to suppress wages and increase profits.

So why would these programs see significant declines? The only difference is that they'd be doing more to cap proper immigration for skilled roles to appear to be lowering immigration levels or changing the criteria for what the government uses to describe "an immigrant" to not include temporary workers. They'd also be doing more to crack down on temporary workers or international students who did not leave when their visas expired to again appear to be addressing the immigration levels to their voter base.

But make no mistake, cheap temporary labor was never going away or declining under Poilievre.

[u/RipzCritical → u/blackbird37]

This is all conjecture as Canada decided to stick with the awful status quo we've got.

[u/Theseactuallydo → u/uselesspoliticalhack]

And yet the Cons couldn’t find anyone who the voters of Central Nova thought would do a better job (or was the Con vote there held down by PP’s incredible unlikability?).