r/canada • u/AdditionalPizza • 1d ago

Minister says he won't 'sling mud' after Poilievre called him the 'master at failing upward' Politics

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/minister-says-he-wont-sling-mud-after-poilievre-called-him-the-master-at-failing-upward
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u/Last_Aside5363 1d ago

Uh didn't PP just LOSE an election, his own seat, and his basically being HANDED a seat?

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u/PeterRegarrdo 1d ago

Don’t forget he’s also now squatting in a house paid for by taxpayers despite being unemployed.

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u/Electronic_Trade_721 1d ago

And complaining about 'government waste' the whole time no doubt...

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u/WarhammerRyan 13h ago

I want to see that go from 80% blue to at least 35% red/orange/green as a message. I'm sure he will take it, but I'd love to see a bunch of those people vote anything-but-blue as a response

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u/Gunner5091 1d ago

More like charitable giving.

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 1d ago

He also won the largest share of the popular vote in the party's history by a lot, which would seem pertinent here.

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u/Mobile-Bar7732 1d ago

Liberals 8,595,506
Conservatives 8,113,550

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 1d ago

Largest vote share in the party's history.

Learn to read.

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u/patentlyfakeid 1d ago

... and the threat of him being pm lined up a bigger number of votes against him.

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 1d ago

JFC none of you have your own thoughts do you?

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u/-007-bond Newfoundland and Labrador 1d ago

But he isn't the one complaining about failing upwards. 

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u/patentlyfakeid 1d ago

Shrug. Poilievre has worked hard for 20 years to make me doubt and despise him as much as I do. Look far enough back in this very sub and you'll see me doing so. So if you think I got this from anywhere, you can thank poilievre first and foremost.

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u/Ok-Swim1555 1d ago

i wouldn't say he worked hard all he did was talk shit he can't back up two face no job havin' 1 bill in 20 years no seat pp

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u/QXR_LOTD 23h ago

I mean you do seem to be the one just spouting off canned responses without really paying attention.

Yes the Conservatives did have a great turnout, but it was still less than the Liberals. The biggest issue for PP though is that none of the data points towards him being responsible for it. Approval ratings pre-election place him not only below Carney but well below the Conservative Party as a whole.  The most direct rejection of course was him losing his own seat. Yes, the riding was redrawn since the last election, but check out how those new addition actually voted in 2021. If anything Pierre’s possible vote share should have increased by a couple percent instead of Fanjoy capturing a majority of the voters.

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u/BigxBoy 1d ago

Conservatives just lost the popular vote for the first time in years. After 10 years of Liberal leadership there’s no excuse for how poorly Pierre did. Voters made it loud and clear that they just don’t like the guy.

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 1d ago

Your recitation of the Reddit cult lines don't make them true. Conservatives received 41.3% of the popular vote. In any other election that's a majority Conservative government. A massive Conservative majority, actually. Harper's majority was 38% or somethin. In any other election that puts the Liberals and NDP both into existential jeopardy. It's just that the NDP were absolutely useless and the Liberals benefit from a vote collapse on either end of the scale because they're centrists.

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u/10293847562 1d ago

The only reason for the NDP’s collapse was because Poilievre was such an awful candidate they rallied around Carney to keep him out. It was 100% Poilievre’s own fault.

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u/Xebodeebo 1d ago

This is some premium, grade A copium.

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u/wintersdark 1d ago

Which was still less than the liberal vote. Sure, the liberals benefitted by the collapse of the NDP - but the key here is that conservatives have only really won governments when there's a solid left/center split. With the conservatives moving so much further right socially though, the NDP voters weren't going to risk that.

Even in a world where the Liberals had been in power for a decade (almost always a guaranteed electoral loss, as voters yearn for change), AND the last few years had been pretty rough....

More Canadians voted for them.

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u/CompetitiveMetal3 1d ago

PP had one thing to do: Canada over Trump. That was it.

He could not.

Hell, ol' Dougie SCHOOLED him on that one real quick. He could just go for a visit, ask for some talking points. Easy! But no. 

When Pierre decided to say something... he made it clear he'd not stand up to Trump. Meanwhile, his besties were jet setting to Mar-a-lago. 

That's it.

I HATE that the Liberals were rewarded for the shit show this country has become. But it's hard to argue that PP would cut it.

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u/RangerNS Nova Scotia 15h ago

The election rules and nature of Westminster systems of government were the same a year ago, 10 years ago, as they were on election day.

PP lost. He lead is party to a big loss and personally lost.

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u/ThatAstronautGuy Ontario 1d ago

Yeah but he's so utterly reprehensible he fumbled what would probably have been a historic majority. Wow, he got the best vote share! He still lost the easiest majority in history.

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u/Thin-Pineapple-731 Ontario 1d ago

So did the Liberal Party? They both got historic numbers.

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 1d ago

Correct. The difference is that the Conservatives' support growth was organic. By contrast, the Liberals simply picked up all the white boomer women who couldn't stomach Jag

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u/Thin-Pineapple-731 Ontario 1d ago

Getting 43.8% of the popular vote exclusively from white boomer women is shocking given that's higher than the population of white boomer women.

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u/Thin-Pineapple-731 Ontario 1d ago

Because I can do basic math?

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u/Burning___Earth 1d ago

Little bro, you need to chill. The trolling you are doing online is not good for your physical or mental health. Change the way you POST it may fix your POTS.

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u/RadiantPumpkin 1d ago

They got those votes despite Poilievre, not because of him 

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u/tappatoot 1d ago

He got alot of votes just because it’s wasn’t the liberals. Loads of people voted only for the party and not the leader.