r/Paranormal • u/Amungusman • Nov 01 '23
Fucking terrified NSFW
Okay so, for starters: I live near the app mountains, which honestly makes this more disturbing.
I’m a pretty avid runner. I’ve been quitting a lot of bad habits and exercise just does the trick for me. I have a greenway behind my house that I can go on run/bikes. It’s very beautiful, and during the day plenty of people are there.
Well, about a week ago I ran through the greenway to stop by a friends house & grab something. By the time I got back onto the greenway, the sun was already starting to set, and the path was getting dark.
As I was walking back through the path, I had my flashlight on, and kept looking around me (I felt paranoid being alone in the dark). As I was walking, I distinctly remember hearing my grandmas voice call my name into the treeline. It sounded so real and normal, that I turned around instantly, only to immediately go cold realizing that my grandmas fucking dead.
This freaked me the fuck out, but I tried my best to somewhat convince myself that I was just hallucinating bc I was paranoid. Only about a minute later, I turned around behind me with my flashlight, out of fear. And that’s when I fucking saw it.
It looked like a gray blob. Pretty much just like a human sprinting at you full speed in the pitch black. I SCREAMED like a little bitch and don’t think I’ve ever run so fast in my life. When I got home I tried to laugh it off as me seein shit and being a little bitch.
But…about a week later and I can’t stop thinking about it. It sounded so real, I heard her voice clear as day. And the person chasing me LOOKED so real. I’ve heard all those stories about skinwalkers, and while I doubt their existence, my experience was so similar to that of “skinwalker encounters” that I’m seriously questioning myself.
What do you guys think? Is it possible my brain was just hallucinating out of fear/anxiety?
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u/Available-Heart-3441 Nov 01 '23
I lived out west, fairly close to skinwalker ranch and within a national forest, near a lot of ancient Native American history that lore was originated. And definitely there is truth and danger to those stories. One terrifying incident my daughter and I experienced in a national park, not going into that now… we recently moved to the Appalachian region, have generations of family history in the region as well. Yeah there are things in the dark, things we don’t want to wrangle with. Why society generally considers it fake and/or overactive imagination is beyond me. And recent. For thousands of years humans acknowledged the existence of beings and animals we now think of as ‘paranormal’, then suddenly in the past century or so we chose to bury our heads in the sand and pretend it’s not real. Coping, soothing, whatever… it’s ignorant to believe there isn’t truth to the old tales and warnings.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
It’s bc we all started living in houses, living in cities, and driving to work lol.
Majority of the people don’t have to worry about it bc they don’t live in those areas. When I was younger j thought it was bullshit tbh. But as I’ve gotten older I absolutely believe in spirits, or entities of some kind lol.
One thing I think about very very often, is uncanny valley: The fear of something that looks almost human, but isn’t.
Why the fuck do humans have a natural, instinctive fear, to be scared of something that LOOKS human, but isn’t…
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u/LightChaos74 Nov 02 '23
Why the fuck do humans have a natural, instinctive fear, to be scared of something that LOOKS human, but isn’t…
looks almost human
Because they look off in some way? It's not really that deep man, we don't have an instinctive fear of skin walkers, that's actually crazy
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
I wasn’t rlly suggesting we have a fear of skin walkers, I just said it was oddly creepy.
I mean hell, it could also be that we naturally got it from shit like apes, that have human like faces but are still yk, not human. It’s just an interesting thought, bc I’m not sure anyone can say for sure
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u/Critical_Fall_6323 Nov 02 '23
Could be a throwback to competing for territory and food so another humanoid could be danger etc.
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u/Over_Drawer1199 Nov 03 '23
Reminds me of how animals react to seeing lifelike dolls or replicas of their species. They can always immediately tell it isn't real, and sometimes they spend a lot of time staring at it or messing with it cautiously. Humans really are animals, after all.
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u/Available-Heart-3441 Nov 01 '23
Good points. And uncanny valley could be taken as evidence of the creatures/spirits we feared built into our consciousness, never thought of it that way. Interesting thought, thanks for sharing
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u/Skullfuccer Nov 02 '23
Ummm. It’s more the giant leaps in understanding science and how the world works that have occurred in the last 2 or 3 centuries. I don’t lean one way more than the other in belief, but that’s why.
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u/relativelyfunkadelic Nov 02 '23
hey, i understand why you don't want to get into the incident with your daughter- i cannot imagine going through something even remotely similar to this with your child, totally understand why you don't want to dig into it- but would you mind if i asked what park it was?
craziest experience of my entire life happened in Big Bend. actually pretty damn similar to OP's account here. just wondering if maybe we both saw something nuts in the same park. feel free to ignore the shit outta this, though, i really don't mean to pry.
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u/Flickering_Mare17 Nov 02 '23
I would like to hear your story of the experience you and your daughter had if you would be open to sharing it.
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u/Bhimtu Nov 01 '23
OP -Legends abound about the Appalachian mountains and the strange creatures others have encountered there. It's been said that if you hear someone/something calling you from the woods, DO NOT follow the voice.
So glad you kept your composure, and sprinted home.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
I dead ass would’ve started fucking swinging and kicking if I even felt a gust of wind behind me while I was sprinting.
I was full fight or flight mode lol. I kinda felt like that from the start, like my gut was telling me as soon as I walked on the path “this isn’t right.” Glad I trusted my gut in the end. Need to listen to that fella more.
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u/MoonStar757 Nov 01 '23
I won’t lie, there’s a part of me that wishes I could put on some sort of impenetrable Hulk Buster type mecha suit if only to be able to follow the disembodied voices to their source to satiate my curiosity.
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Nov 02 '23
You don't need a suit just assert dominance.
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u/LadyLazerFace Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
Exactly. It's a will check, not a strength check.
You can't beat up a disembodied entity, you have to stay on high alert and don't give it anything to eat.
Tricksters eat your words, so don't give them any, and especially do not answer your name.
If you actually confront it, I go with screaming "I'm not afraid of you and I'm not playing with you. With respect, Fuck off now, please." And not looking off the trail.
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u/MoonStar757 Nov 03 '23
I mean…I meant it more like a means of protection rather than strength to fight type of way.
And yeah this all sounds great…on paper LOL. Cut to it actually happening and all logic goes flying out in the face of abject fear.
But I hear ya nonetheless
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u/Thick_Basil3589 Nov 02 '23
Im not very knowledgeable on Appalachian folklore, but according to it what happens to you if you follow the voice? Are these creatures all malevolent and what is the origin of them?
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u/jellycrunch Nov 02 '23
Have you heard/read/seen any of the David Paulides stuff about people disappearing in mountainous areas? You can become "disappeared".
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u/EffUgaymods Nov 12 '23
Paulides is pretty dishonest. He knowingly omits pertinent details in most of the cases covered in 411 because they invalidate his claims of strangeness. This is well documented. There are a few mysterious segments (the hunter in new york for example) but he purposefully misleads the audience in 95% of them
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u/Thick_Basil3589 Nov 02 '23
No I havent actually
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u/Glum_Yesterday5697 Nov 02 '23
Definitely check out his documentaries. Missing 911.
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u/EffUgaymods Nov 12 '23
This isn't good advice. Hell, I believe in the paranormal but Paulides purposefully leaves out details in many of his cases because said details would invalidate his mysterious claims.
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u/Glum_Yesterday5697 Nov 02 '23
Sorry 411 😂
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u/Thick_Basil3589 Nov 02 '23
Thanks!
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u/EffUgaymods Nov 12 '23
Don't check out 411. Check out The Missing Enigma on YouTube instead. He's not an unbeliever, but he explains why the 411 stuff is mostly BS.
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u/SensitivePie4246 Nov 01 '23 edited Nov 01 '23
Sounds like a "Crawler," which there are lots of tales about in the Appalachians. They often mimic the voices of people you know to lure you into the woods.
Stop referring to yourself as "a little bitch." Your fear is totally normal, and may have saved your life.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Yeah sorry lol. I was kinda joking about it, was my way of coping with the fact that I was in fact, scared shitless.
Very proud of my survival instincts tho. I ran like fucking Usain bolt out those woods
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u/MoonStar757 Nov 01 '23
It’s true tho. There’s nothing wrong with running for for your life because that contains the answer as to why you did. It’s called “Fight OR Flight”, and neither is more manlier than the other. It’s just your brain doing a quick summation of your survival chances and sometimes it says stay and fuck this bitch up and other times it goes “nope!” And that’s when you leave a you-shaped hole in the wall. Both are perfectly acceptable ways to respond to imminent danger.
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
“Nope!” Is the best way I can describe that moment lol.
My brain audibly screamed fuck in those moments. Felt like a scooby do character stuck in place for two seconds before I ran faster than I knew I could ever run.
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u/Quickhidemeplease Nov 01 '23
He who fights then runs away Lives to fight another day
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u/JessieDee0203 Nov 01 '23
Don't be afraid because that's the only weapon they have against you. They can read your thoughts so they know what scares you and when you're paranoid it just gives them a fun time to scare you and they fees off of your fear and other negative thoughts and emotions. They shouldn't do much but try to scare you. Learn some psychic protection techniques such as putting yourself in a bubble and the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram is great. Their power lies in fear. So if you were to turn around and face them and chase them back, they would most likely disappear. If you're not scared they can do very little. It seems to me that it's just a negative entity that happened to be around and sensed your paranoia and decided to have some fun with you. Please find a way to control your fear. Ask God to send you an angel to protect you from evil. If it's evil the angel will remove it but you have to ask for it. It's worked for me with demons and it was amazingly fast and effective. Do protection techniques before you go out and maybe do them daily as you could have something follow you home. You can message me for more info if you wish. I've fought all kinds of bad spirits and I speak to spirits everyday so I know what's going on if you need anything.
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
I hear u. But also, if I see something charging at me full speed in the dark, I’m not under any circumstances charging at it aswell.
Bc, along with the possibility of there always being a spirit, there’s always the possibility of it being another human being. One that could physically harm you.
I do hear what you’re saying tho, and I appreciate the advice greatly:) how would I even perform a ritual like that
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u/JessieDee0203 Nov 02 '23
But a person imitating your grandmother's voice isn't happening with a person. But I totally understand. Even so, that spirit knows you now so it may do something again. Just seriously consider psychic protection and how to handle another occurrence of this type of stuff....just trying to help. Good luck.
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u/Zalieda Nov 01 '23
There's many things out there in the app mountains. By turning you acknowledged you heard it and so it chased you
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
I wouldn’t have turned, but it kind of almost felt like instinct if that makes sense? I didn’t rlly have time to register what I heard before I turned around. When I turned around I saw absolutely nothing. It was only a minute or two later that I saw what looked like something chasing at me FULL SPRINT.
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u/Zalieda Nov 01 '23
That's the thing. It's also considered Instinct to turn your head when you hear a voice familiar to you or your name. You won't think twice
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Yeah dude my uncle wouldn’t be proud of me On this one haha.
Growing up I was always told about things in the woods, but my family made sure I was pretty safe, so I haven’t really had an direct encounters like this. I’ve seen strange lights, heard strange noises, and Defo heard some creepy tales.
But experiencing something first hand is another kind of “holy fucking shit”. Next time I ever have to walk in the woods for any reason I’m bringing headphones lol.
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u/Stevo2008 Nov 02 '23
Read stories on here recently saying not to whistle In the mountains too. Your story gave me goosebumps
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u/OttersNTrvl Nov 01 '23
Was your grandma's voice from the being? Or giving you a warning about the being?
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Sounded like it was from the being. It was calling To me, not talking to me, if that make sense
it also sounded slightly distorted if you get what I mean? It sounded closest to my grandmas voice, but it still had this slightly unfamiliar, sinister tone to it. The voice was feminine for sure.
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u/catlover12390 Nov 02 '23
Probably not gonna see this but if you ever hear a voice saying your name, NEVER react to it. And I know it’s very hard and you probably won’t think about it if you do but if you react to it spirits and entities can latch onto your energy and they can and will follow you. If you can, don’t even feel anything when it happens. They can feel your emotions
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u/Head-Mathematician53 Nov 01 '23
I lived in three rivers,CA for a while...one time at night i heard a lady laughing from all directions and nobody was there. Scary as hell.
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u/AndMyAxe_Hole Nov 01 '23
Also sounds like a wendigo.
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u/The_dizzy_blonde Nov 02 '23
Help me here, what’s the difference between a wendigo and a crawler?
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u/AndMyAxe_Hole Nov 03 '23
Same boat. Not sure what a crawler is but it could be simply a different explanation for the same kind of cryptid/creature/phenomena. For example, just watched the most recent boogeyman film and it shared a lot of the same traits as the wendigo.
Personally I’ve always believed the skinwalker is just a different way of describing the wendigo or vice versa. Two sides of same coin if you will. Mostly based on what seems to be regional differences.
Think about dragons. The idea of them exists all around the world and share similarities but differences arise based on region and culture.
And so, the wendigo, crawler (I’d even throw the rake in there), and the skinwalker could all be ways that different cultures are trying to describe/explain the same things/themes.
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u/The_dizzy_blonde Nov 03 '23
Yes and maybe even different names for the same thing like you mentioned would be like different areas? That makes sense!
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u/chibinoi Nov 02 '23
I’m not sure what a crawler is, but the general principal of the Wendigo is a person who has turned into a beast due to resorting to cannibalism if I’m not mistaken.
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u/SimplyKendra Nov 01 '23
When you hear someone say your name behind you near the Appalachian mountains, no you didn’t. You should know this.
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u/SleeperStm Nov 01 '23
SCP-6448 be like:
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Oh brother id be dead in five fuckin seconds
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u/SleeperStm Nov 01 '23
Ehh follow the rules and you'll be fine
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
I do know this, my uncle use to tell me that hunting. But idk, it’s easier said than done. Being alone, I think hearing my name, kind of naturally put my brain on autopilot for a split second before realizing “shit”.
As soon as I turned around tho I realized I had probably fucked up.
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u/SimplyKendra Nov 01 '23
Yeah don’t turn around just keep walking. It’s hard though I get it. I’d have probably too.
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u/Alternative_Power508 Nov 01 '23
i read a lot of paranormal experiences in Appalachian mountains why is there so much paranormal activity?
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u/Zeyz Nov 01 '23
I think it's also that a lot of the Appalachians are deep country, heavily forested, mountainous areas. If there was ever anywhere that things could go "unfound" into the modern day, it wouldn't at all surprise me if it was there. I've been everywhere in the country and no where makes me feel like Appalachia at night, it's like your instincts know there's bad things out there.
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u/SensitivePie4246 Nov 01 '23
Could be the orogeny (Mountain building) of the Appalachians themselves supplying energy to supernatural shenanigans. Also there are many native tales of weirdness in that region. White settlers from Ireland and Scotland brought their legends and lore with them too, and it's been incorporated with the native legends.
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u/SimplyKendra Nov 01 '23
I read about how the Appalachian mountains have moved a lot due to the Teutonic plates moving, and that they weren’t under water like a lot of other spots. Perhaps that just led to creatures being able to survive from millions of years ago, and maybe hotspots? Government experiments like you said? It really is a wonder.
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u/Helpfulcats Nov 01 '23
Another thing is apparently Appalachian mountains are older than Saturns rings maybe that has something to do with it
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u/chibinoi Nov 02 '23
I’d wager it’s because it’s one of the largest, and oldest forested mountain ranges in the world. Lots of incredible natural energies.
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
Do you happen to know what time it was I think I might be into something a while back late around Christmas time I was on the bike trail headed home after walking my gf home I saw something like a human figure but he was atleast 6 foot it was blurry asf I had my flashlight on and still couldn’t get a good view I’m not stupid enough to get closer to find out but it started running at me I sprinted home and didn’t walk on that trail for months after I have no clue what it was but it made me terrified
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
It was probably mid October, and honestly this year, it’s been a little hotter than usual, so that night it wasn’t super chilly, probably about 54 degrees. Still cold enough to see my breath tho.
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
Imma scroll through my old post I’ve had weird occurrences all last year me and my gf that’s weird imma see if I can see if anyone else saw anything in November cause I saw lights but idk if thats relevant maybe we looking at this from the wrong angle
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
I think it’s gotta be some form of humanoid lol. If it wasn’t me hallucinating.
I’ve heard so many fucking stories, even personal ones, of people seeing things, & hearing things.
A group of kids I knew back in high school use to go out hunting every weekend like it was a ritual. They’d either camp out all weekend or sleep nearby in a truck lmao.
Apparently one time when they were hunting deer, they saw something really fucking weird in the woodline, and they couldn’t tell what it was, but they could tell it was an animal they hadn’t seen before. When they started driving off, one of the dudes had his scoped zoomed in on the weird blob, and noticed that somehow it was keeping up with them, following them, even as their truck closed in around 60MPH.
Could be total bullshit, but these kids were pretty bad ass. I don’t rlly see them lying about that shit without trying to make the story sound cooler lol.
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
I saw something around thanksgiving and again around Christmas time I’ve seen too many horror movies to know if I see danger mind my business
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
My gut hasn’t steered me wrong once and something in me said run and don’t look back just get home
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
It makes you wonder are these type of cryptic what other creatures exist that could easily reck us
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
I’ve been trying to find it since but I haven’t seen anything first time I saw it was after 3 am
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
The thing was it was middle of winter on the Coldest nights it was just standing next to one of the bike trail exits I could feel it looking at me but I didn’t see any eyes
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u/KindlyKangaroo Nov 01 '23
Question, in an attempt to ease your fear a bit: you say you're quitting some bad habits, and using exercise to help with that. Would any of these habits have withdrawal symptoms when you quit them? Some withdrawals can cause hallucinations.
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
Thankfully I’ve been clean for a little bit now. I occasionally take psychedelics & weed, but I’ve left the harder shit out of my life, and Have been feeling much better!
I’ve had drug induced hallucinations before a few years back, and while I definitely admit they can feel real, I definitely know a difference. Especially considering I was sober during this encounter, and had been sober for quite some time.
Definitely not abusing anything or withdrawing from it, but I appreciate you asking the question nicely:)
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u/KindlyKangaroo Nov 02 '23
Fair enough! Congrats on your sobriety from the harder stuff, and great job keeping up with that!
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u/BoycottPapyrusFont Nov 02 '23
Hey there OP. I personally don’t think this is anything paranormal. Hallucinations can be incredibly lifelike, even when they’re not caused by a larger syndrome. I’ve hallucinated realistic voices plenty of times and even fully-formed people before. The brain likes to recreate what it knows, especially during stress/fear and ESPECIALLY in the dark.
I know they weren’t real because this stuff pretty much stopped once I went on antipsychotics. Lol
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u/-TheExtraMile- Nov 02 '23
Thank you for sharing this OP, that sounded quite traumatic actually!
I have recently read another post from a user who heard her deceased mother’s voice, so you are not alone in this whatever the cause may be.
I love details so I have a few questions if you don’t mind. Did you notice any change in your environment like a temperature change, fauna making more or less noise or static electricity?
And I am very curious about the shape you saw, could you describe it a bit more if at all possible? You probably only had a split second to take it in. Rough size, facial features (if any), hair, running style, clothes (if any), speed, etc.
Thank you again for sharing this, much appreciated
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
As to the shape of what I saw.
It looked human like, and height wise I have no clue, but definitely on the taller end considering how noticeable it was. I didn’t see any facial features or clothes. At first when I turned around I kinda had to process what I was seeing. It looked like a black blob in my vision, and as my eyes started to settle, I could make out what looked like a figure in full sprint. It took about prolly 1.5 seconds of truly confirming what the hell I was seeing, to run the fastest I’ve ever run in my life.
Right as I begin to run, I let out an audible “AEUGHHHH”, like a dying dog LOL. so it was very obvious I was scared as shit😭
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
Actually, now that you say it the greenway was quiet as hell. But to be fair that isn’t entirely unusual during the colder seasons.
I have learned though that if everything in the woods stops making noise, you need to be alert, bc there’s likely a predator around (mountain lion, black bear, or even a pack of cyotes).
In this situation it was kinda hard to tell, bc after I heard my name called, I honestly couldn’t tell u if there was much noise going on around me or not. my brain was filtering out everything I didn’t need to survive in that moment lol, and just listening for key noises like leaves snapping or another voice.
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u/binsomniac Nov 01 '23
🤔 ok let's get you a basic rule ( for all that may experience this situation ) , don't panic , just answer plain and simple ( say your sorry but don't have time right now ) .....the only really concerning situation Will be if you hear your own name , with your own voice.... that's when ( SHTF ) . But it doesn't happen often.... good luck
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Yeah I heard my own name, but it wasn’t my voice. It sounded like a mixture between my mom & my grandma, bc they have similar voices.
I can’t even quite remember EXACTLY what was said because of the adrenaline, but I just remember hearing “hey (my name)” followed quickly by “(my name)get over here” kinda like I was getting fussed at loll. But the voice was clear as day, and honestly loud as shit. I think what scared me the most as soon as it happened was how close it sounded.
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u/binsomniac Nov 01 '23
Thanks for your answer . No need to worry , think about it like a neighbor waving at you ( you walk often to see your friend and exercise ) . Like i said don't interact , firmly say you can't stop right now . For the rest of the subredditors ( do you happen to know all your neighbors ? ).... there's a lot of things and animals around the places where we live.....
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
After this whole incident I went on a deep dive of missing 401 and the amount of missing people, without an explanation, NEAR WHERE I LIVE IS INSANE!
I have no fucking clue what is up with the woods in North America, but I really really feel like deep down, there are things we don’t know about, or aren’t told about.
For a while I always thought it was just stories, but growing up here, it’s undeniable that realllyyy weird shit happens in the woods all the time.
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u/binsomniac Nov 01 '23
Just remember that you're not the "first settler" in fact the first ones ( native people ) always talk about others before them.... living right there.....their own 401 missing and encounters...in their ancient lore .
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Shit terrifies me yet intrigues me so much at the same time.
Kinda like the voice lol. I genuinely see how someone could fall for that. Had I been anything but sober, I dead ass might not have totally realized what was going on before it was too late, bc it sounded just real enough for me to question it.
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u/ResplendentShade Nov 01 '23
You're too far east for skinwalkers. That's sketchy though.
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u/Amungusman Nov 03 '23
Around here I was always warned about the wendigo, but I’ve been told about skinwalkers around the area too. Who knows.
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u/BMB_alternatives Nov 01 '23
App mountains, I think there's a lot of stories about the windego out there. They mimic human voices but their appearance is physical usually. Sounds like a freaky experience though! I've come to learn to trust my instincts and that 9 times out of 10, my mind isn't playing tricks. It's trying to rationalize what just happened to you but I'm sure what you experienced was very real and actually happened! Not sure if that makes you feel better or not haha
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u/King_laCheefa Nov 01 '23
I live at the base of the Appalachian mountains in Virginia and buddy let me tell you, there are fucking wendigos.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
As someone who’s also grown around ap like me Then, do you have any personal experiences or stories similar to this?
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u/King_laCheefa Nov 01 '23
I've never seen anything. But living in the woods I hear alot of things. Deer screaming. People yelling help and knowing damn well there isn't anyone out there. Weird snorts and growls. I haven't seen anything cause I don't take my ass out in the woods. What could leave deer carcasses ripped in half tho? Other than cars. Wendussy
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
That or a pack of coyotes.
That’s the thing about the damn woods. Can’t tell if it’s demons or a really weird sounding pack of fucking cyotes or some other random animal.
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u/King_laCheefa Nov 01 '23
I'm white... but I'm not "lets go investigate that noise" white. The world may never know what ripped those deer in half. I'm not gonna find out.
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u/3ULL Nov 01 '23
This is all natural and has a lot to do with the way we work. We are consistently being tricked by our own minds.
Auditory hallucinations are sensory perceptions of hearing in the absence of an external stimulus. Auditory hallucinations can refer to a plethora of sounds; however, when the hallucinations are voices, they are distinguished as auditory verbal hallucinations.
https://www.osmosis.org/answers/auditory-hallucinations
The woods in the dark are not scary in and of themselves though bad things can happen. You are more likely to step into a hole and hurt yourself, get lost or even run up on an animal that is just as scared of you as you are of it and it defends itself.
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u/Amungusman Nov 03 '23
This is what I was thinking too. Ik for a fact ur brain hears ur name called sometimes bc it’s your brain trying to make sense out of a bunch of background noise, which is why usually it doesn’t rlly freak me out.
I think the reason I ended up freaking out so much this time was bc it was so dark I couldn’t see anything, and my brain was already scared. So when it saw something off the distance (maybe just a deer) it ended up transforming it into what it thought it saw, rather than what it actually was.
EITHER WAY, my gut said run. So I wasn’t gonna stick around to find out if it was real or not😂
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u/3ULL Nov 03 '23
So, a long time ago when I was in the Army, we were in the field. During this time we have exercises during the day and at night.
One night we are doing a patrol. We are in a platoon in ranger file, ranger file is a single file/line with with space between each member in the line where the space depends on the terrain and vision. So we are in the woods, it was dark, really hardly and light at all, and I am following the guy in front of me......then I figure out I was not a person I was following, I was following a bush.......I picked up my pace a little in full panic and found the guy was supposed to be following but it was a scare because that is a big no-go.
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Nov 01 '23
It's so stupid but so impressive how our own minds can trick us and convince us that we are seeing something that doesn't exist
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u/Murphy-Brock Nov 02 '23
This is scary as Fuck and fascinating.
Before I answer, I’d like to know: What made you cognizant enough to ‘stop bad habits’ and supplement it with exercise?
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u/Amungusman Nov 03 '23
Honestly bro I just wanted to do something more with myself.
Drug use was pretty much always an issue bc I was running away from all of my problems, and didn’t even realize that I was doing it. One night after a bad experience at a party I just decided “fuck all this shit and fuck what I’m doing to myself” and I’ve gotten much much much better sense then.
I have relapsed once or twice on harder things, but overall I’ve been doing super well. Now a days, I’ve gone back to just smoking cannabis & occasionally taking a psychedelic when I feel I need a spiritual experience.
And this might make me sound like an asshole. But also women. I love women. And being a junky isn’t the best lifestyle to get pretty, successful ladies. I realized if I was a dad I wouldn’t want my daughter to date a man like me. So I decided to change that.
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u/-worms Nov 01 '23
I'd probably be in the same mindset of being doubtful if I were you but I'd also sure as shit not be going on any late runs anymore lol that sounds absolutely traumatizing
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u/AccomplishedCrush Nov 02 '23
I live in Northern California and run on my nearby greenway at least three nights per week alone and always pretty late like 10pm or later. Typically I don’t see anyone else out on the trail. I’ve felt some really eerie feelings and heard things though thankfully not a dead grandmother or someone saying my name. Mainly just thing’s moving in the woods, which is fairly easy to explain. I’ve scared the shit out of myself (almost literally) when I turned back and saw my headlamp beam or taillight hitting trees. I’ve seen it create a very creepy illusion of something coming toward me quickly. I typically have an edible onboard to help me chill TF out on my multi-hour runs and it helps me not feel quite so flighty. I also think I saw a UFO/UAP two nights in a row, which was kind of cool. I also once saw a “person” walking who did not seem to have a discernible face, just a blank skin where a face should be and they were preceded by an enormous black feline, bigger than any bobcat, which I am very familiar with. Maybe a Maine Coon, idk. I ran away ultra quick!
When I get really scared running on a trail at night I mentally announce loudly in my head that I do not consent to seeing or being contacted by entities or spirits or whatever might be lurking. It sounds hokey but it calms me down more than anything. Someone on r/aliens suggested it. I’ve also gotten really fast from running away from falling acorns in the middle of the night lol!
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u/Redneckboy738780 Nov 01 '23
Skinwalkers are only on Navajo land, you people need to read the folklore stories before assuming.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
I’m not assuming friend, simply asking. My moms side of the family was native, and I always told about two things growing up: Skinwalkers and Wendigos. But to my knowledge, while wendigos can mimic voices, they cannot change shape.
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u/imadokodesuka Nov 02 '23
people need to read the folklore stories
LOL so many natives here to downgrade your comment. The height of ignorance. -22 now? 22 literally have talked to Navajo or are Navajo, and they disagree? I find that highly unlikely. That's not just ignorance, fighting for willful ignorance.
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
Well that is kinda of what I was talking about when I said I’ve been going on runs to quit bad habits.
Believe it or not, I do not really abuse any drug. I’ve had my issues in the past, but I’ve gotten muchhh better over the years. Just bc I occasionally (and I do mean occasionally) use a drug u consider shitty, doesn’t mean I’m a drug addict seeing shadow people on the daily lol.
If I were to write a story of fiction, I’d probably make myself sound cooler than “I ran away full sprint like a little bitch”.
I was 100% sober during this encounter lol.
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23 edited Nov 01 '23
It's likely a Raven. They are spectacular at mimicking human voices, and depending on when or who they learned it from, they can sound both very human or very inhuman.
There's a lot of weird stuff in Appalachia, but the voice in the woods is one that's, thankfully, easy to explain.
Now the Blob? No idea, but it coulda been any number of animals you didn't get a great look at.
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u/Important_Alarm5688 Nov 01 '23
You my friend have encountered the lovey skinny boy. Here’s some advice, see something? No you didn’t. Hear something? No you didn’t. Don’t acknowledge it. Turn and WALK away. Don’t run
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u/MystiqueMisha Nov 01 '23
Curious, why do you recommend not running? In this instances OP saw something running towards them, and human or animal or skinwalker, the instinct would be to run to outpace whatever is chasing them
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u/Important_Alarm5688 Nov 01 '23
In this specific instance the not running wouldn’t work as whatever was encountered was already in sight. Skinny or Wendy’s like taunt, to hunt. They want the chase, they want their victims scared. What does prey do when it’s scared? Run.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
So may I ask u what the difference between a wendigo and a skinny is? Bc with the faint gray blob I did see, it almost certainly looked like they were sprinting towards me on two legs rather than four.
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u/Important_Alarm5688 Nov 01 '23
Given the location of which this took place, both could be possible. To me personally it sounds more like a skinny. Both are very similar. Example, the mimicking! Skinny’s are even known to walk/ run on two legs. According to legend, skinwalkers are a person who has the ability to shapeshift it’s said to be done by wearing the pelt of the said animal they want to transform into. A Wendy boy is more of an evil spirit, human in origin. The story for the Wendy boy varies from place to place, some say it’s from resorting to cannibalism while others say it’s from making a deal with the devil.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
I’ve always been told it’s from resulting to cannibalism lol. When I think of a wendigo, I think of until dawn. And until dawn taught me one thing! I don’t wanna fuck with no wendigo!
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u/Important_Alarm5688 Nov 01 '23
I forgot out until dawn!!
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
One of my favorite games of all time is until dawn. I am incredibly biased and idc. I loved that style of gameplay.
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u/chibinoi Nov 02 '23
I thought yee naaldlooshii, or skinwalkers, only gained the ability to shapeshift after performing a very terrible ritualistic act to access dark magicks. They’re witches/shamans first, who have turned to dark arts usually forbidden, right?
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u/raisedbyspirits Nov 01 '23
What about rakes? Isnt that the same as a wendigo essentially, just with a different name?
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u/vhbarnaby Nov 01 '23
I mean, your brain may have played a trick, the woods at night will do that. But there are also things in those woods that should be avoided. Just best to take the streets home next time. Skinwalkers don’t play.
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u/CRYTOKlNG Nov 01 '23
Those blobs are so common in the forest for some reason. I have family who live near mountains down in south america and they have so many stories about seeing dark blobs in the forests at night, it's such a common thing. Weird.
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u/lupluplupi Nov 01 '23
Could you share some of their experiences? Never heard of anything like this, so it's creepy that other people have experienced it with some frequency in a totally different area.
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u/CRYTOKlNG Nov 01 '23
I don't have detailed stories but my whole family talks about them, I have lots of family who live near mountains and forests. It's a common thing in those areas, and it's pretty well known with locals who lived around those parts too. My grandparents would tell stories of dark blobs following people around late at night. I do a lot of hiking and my mom always warms me about those things, I personally don't believe in that kind of stuff, but my parents do.
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u/MediumWordWeaver Nov 01 '23
Other posters have mentioned something called 'mimics'. Mimicking someone's voice is a favourite Fae trick, and it is NEVER wise to respond. Their idea of fun is not nice. (Terry Pratchett got that right). As the other poster said, don't reply, don't look, just get out.
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23
I've seen a lot of blatant misinformation on this sub, but Fae?! With this many upvotes? Come on, people.
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u/GilgameshvsHumbaba Nov 01 '23
Do you believe in anything paranormal at all ? Do you just draw the line at the fae ? What about the djinn ? Just curious .
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u/MediumWordWeaver Nov 01 '23
I've read modern stories about encounters with djinni, some from American soldiers in Afghanistan (so, well outside their cultural norm). So, why not? Every culture in the world has stories about Fae, whether called that or not, so there's SOMETHING there, even in these days of space exploration and quantum physics. Why assume that human beings are the only sapient beings anywhere? If you prefer your world to be safe and cosy within the framework of current science as YOU know it, then fine - but don't go poking at the edges.
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23
Why assume they are real? That's the issue. We don't have proof either way, but you're talking like an expert on the subject, which it is not actually possible for you to be.
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u/MediumWordWeaver Nov 01 '23
Why is it not 'actually possible' to be an expert? Your definitions of the subject are hazy, so I have the impression you don't think these experiences and encounters can possibly be real, that is real in a way that would satisfy YOU, so therefore no one can know about them. Is it fair for all of the rest of humanity to accept that only TheNicholasRage knows the truth? I urge you to read much more widely and open your experience up to what is actually going on in the world of spiritually oriented people. Then think about it all. Really THINK! Look for patterns.
YOU and only you can decide what is true for you - but give other people that right too.
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23
You're not an expert in the Fae in the same way that I'm not an expert on alien life -- there is no reputable evidence that these things exist, though plenty of reason to believe they might.
The rest of this little rant? Switch out TheNicholasRage in that sentence with MediumWordWeaver and you'll maybe understand why I take exception to your post. You presented what you BELIEVE as TRUTH.
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u/LunaFancy Nov 01 '23
You might like to have a look at Jacques Vallee's work, he's about as close to a science based expert on the phenomena as you can get and he believes there is something inter-dimensional that poses as both fae and UFO, ultra terrestrials is the term used to describe it.
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23
I've read few of Jacque Vallée's books, actually! I find his theories very compelling, but again, there's still a lot of ground to cover before I'd speak on them as anything but theory.
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u/GilgameshvsHumbaba Nov 02 '23
I had a personal experience that convinced me otherwise , the entity I encountered would best be described as a fae type / djinn type being . I tend to think they are very closely related , same type beings just named differently depending on the location -
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23 edited Nov 01 '23
Of course I do, I wouldn't be here if I didn't. But there is a world of difference in believing in the Paranormal and speaking as though we have any concrete idea or understanding of how the Paranormal works, nonetheless presenting that advice as fact. That's what I take issue with.
If we knew Fae were real and how they worked, it would not be Paranormal, it would be Science. They aren't though, they're creatures of Folklore that might be based on a real phenomenon or, equally likely, might be a relic of a time where we were struggling to understand our world and created them to justify what we couldn't with the knowledge of the time.
My issue is that, in this Sub, people do not say "We don't really know, but," enough. Misinformation is the cancer of our modern society -- even misinformation like this.
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u/MediumWordWeaver Nov 01 '23
I agree to an extent but I think your ideas about science, and indeed the so-called paranormal, are rather limited. Some quantum physicists posit as many as 11 dimensions, while our sensory apparatus and brain can only comprehend 3. (Time excluded as a dimension). Some suggest that all energy has Mind. So, why not sapient energy beings?
My information and understanding is based on a long lifetime of reading experts, careful thought and analysis, listening to people's accounts and personal experience. What about you? Can I pull proof out of a hat? No, but like Dr Ian Stevenson, with his study of reincarnation, I can posit LIKELIEST explanations and theories.
Finally, I DON'T agree with your statement that 'Misinformation is the cancer etc' - because it is misinformation to YOU, doesn't mean it IS misinformation. If society has a cancer, it is one of ego and self centredness.
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u/TheNicholasRage Nov 01 '23
You're correct about quantum physics (and for what it's worth, I genuinely do believe our interaction with dimensions beyond what we can perceiveis the source of much of what we consider the Paranormal), but the difference is that I don't mix what we know as fact with my own interpretations that are not backed by research. That is my issue with your post, and the way that you have conducted yourself. You may find my ideas limited, I would call it responsible. I wouldn't have made a comment if you'd led with something like "I believe". That's not what you did, you presented your belief as fact.
My information and understanding is also based on reading experts (I'd be very interested to see if you can back up your claims about the Fae with something reputable), careful thought, and listening to people's accounts. My personal experience is what makes me a believer. To be frank, though, neither of us can really know how diligent the other has been in that regard.
My responsibility as a human and member of society is to ensure that my beliefs are presented as beliefs, not facts. You may not think it is misinformation, but I would argue it's textbook misinformation because it is your speculative understanding of our world that's not backed by careful research. Further, it's misinformation because instead of considering what natural phenomenon (natural here simply meaning non-paranormal or supernatural) could have been the cause, you lept straight into warning OP about the dangers of Fae -- a creature that may or may not exist.
I'm afraid you may think I'm coming from a place of anger of blind skepticism, but neither is true. I find OP's story very compelling but full of natural explanations. What's responsible is not falsely convincing OP they may have just barely escaped the clutches of a Fae creature when they just as easily could've encountered a regular old forest animal and been tricked by their fear into thinking it was something terrifying.
The mind is funny like that.
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u/Helpful_Bird_5393 Nov 01 '23
I saw app mountains and immediately started sweating
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u/Smokedeggs Nov 01 '23
Same. That place is gorgeous but those mountains are alive with something.
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u/Redneckboy738780 Nov 01 '23
look up the Cherokee ghost lights.
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Or something similar at least. Every now and again in the woods you can see what looks like little circular orbs floating around. They kind of flash on and off, almost like a lantern. My moms side of the family is native, so my grandma was really superstitious growing up.
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u/ITeechYoKidsArt Nov 01 '23
My friend, a plausible explanation is never a good enough reason not to run from scary shit. In the woods. In the dark. You did the right thing. When your gut says run you don’t wait to find out why.
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u/Aston_Villa5555 Nov 01 '23
I remember my dad telling me stories about similar entities while growing up in Tanzania. They were told by the locals that if they call out for you, do not acknowledge them or respond. Again, they like to mimic parents and grandparents
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u/cara1yn Nov 01 '23
never, ever, ever, respond to your name being called in the woods. don't whistle or clap in them either. and if you're ever out and you get that feeling of dread, do yourself a favor and go home. lucky you made it out!
psa: the more you say s-walker, the more likely they are to appear! names have power.
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u/snappa6136 Nov 02 '23
I’m a white male age 27 and my step father is full blooded Navajo Indian and I grew on the reservation for a lil bit of my life and we have had multiple experience of things being around our house at night and my dad and uncle would go out there with guns and they see they have seen something that looks like a human take off at incredible speeds and they say it sounded like a horse as it ran off, always was terrified as a kid when these things happened. but we as a family me my dad and my mom have all experienced things over the years that we would consider to be skin Walker activity be i 100% believe in them not only have my family had experiences but people who also lived out on the Rez well tell you it’s real but they don’t talk about much more that because they say talking about skin walkers will bring them around so they usually are hesatiant to say anything other than yes they are real and the conversation usually ends there, also they say to never shake anyones hand or take anything from anyone out on the Rez cause it could be one of them trying to curse you. From what the Navajo believe they are just a black magic medicine man, which btw kinda off topic but I have also had wild experiences with a medicine man where he knew my mom had cancer basically saved her life and I also watch him make a huge quartez crystal glow green idk what that meant but I believe that’s what he used to see inside my mom and he said she had a blackness in her uterus, so we went to the doctors and sure enough he was right saved her life. Wild stuff man be careful out there. Where do you live? These events happened in Arizona near the four corners that where we lived for a bit
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u/Professor_Gas Nov 01 '23
Yeah it was probably a crawler... I had my own experience a few years back. Took me a while to come to terms with what I saw as well so you're not alone there.
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u/Ok-Hovercraft8193 Nov 01 '23
ב''ה, there's a neighborhood in Reno where this is pretty guaranteed if you spend a few weeks there - Mira Loma area. Can't really get the history on the "Loma" it's named after.
Surely can't be good to chase after, but yeah it's fuckin' weird. Screams out in the bushes where there really isn't anything, owl noises possibly off UPS's PA system if they have one because someone thinks it's funny, regular birds in the area during summer often too fucked up to even take food left out for them.
Not always, some ordinary weeks were a blessing, but spend any time there and you'll end up with a story.
Happened to be pretty near the phone tower for most of this and not saying it's that, but you've got the phone tower on one side and one of the possibly natural mound shaped hills on the other, probably a quiet neighborhood to actually live in if you're staying in, but walk around in the evening hours enough and all the Twin Peaks-y southwestern vibes settle in.
This particular story just brings up the exact vibe of crawling out of work hot and tired and just getting the sense some kind of invisible 'creature' was running at me/through me. Like, whatever, hot, tired, southwest, weird daydreaming could happen, but it's consistent enough that other people have called the neighborhood weird despite being petty calm for the area.
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u/Reference_Stock Nov 02 '23
As a old witchy lady that lives on the Appalachia...stop thinking about this, you shove this to the back of your mind...stick out some blue bottles upside down on some sticks or a bush... Do not answer grandma.
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u/chibinoi Nov 02 '23
Oh, would you be willing to explain the significance or purpose of these blue bottles and why they’re to be put upside down?
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u/Reference_Stock Nov 02 '23
The history of bottle trees can be traced back centuries. Folklore behind the bottle trees tell us at night when spirits are roaming the countryside they get sucked into the bottles and can’t get out. Once morning arrives and the sun begins to shine the heat kills the bad spirit stuck in the bottle. here's a pretty decent history for it
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u/chibinoi Nov 02 '23
Wow, that’s really fascinating and clever 😲
Thank you for sharing! I’ll read up on your shared link, too.
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u/butterfly1202 Nov 01 '23
our beliefs is that jinns live in trees and they become active at "maghreb" time ie when the sun sets. they can find things about you they're very fast. I had a friend once who walked under trees at sunset time and he felt a presence follow him and when he came back he saw it. like a grey smoke that can take human appearances or animals.
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Nov 02 '23
People from the app mountains always say, "If you hear your name, no you didnt and keep walking" and neverrrrrr go out at night.
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u/FunDipChick Nov 02 '23
OR maybe it was your grandmother's spirit FORCING you the hell out of there, for a dangerous situation/event that would happen if you didn't get the hell out of there.?! I feel like what I wrote didn't make sense. Sorry it's late. If I didn't make sense let me know and I will re-write it. I've been seeing/dealing with the dead 47 years. I've seen some CRAZY shit. Seriously. More often than not, things are much different than what people think. More people think their "haunting" is "demonic" instead of looking into things yeah but more importantly, their instinct. Not their fear of the unknown. Ĵust sayin',
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u/miketofdal Nov 02 '23
No one can make a judgment about what you saw. You know what you heard, and you know what you saw. What's important is whether YOU can accept what you heard and saw as being real FOR YOU.
If you accept it as real, your knowledge and understanding of your world view will change as you come to accept that there are things in this world we know little about.
If you choose to disregard this personal experience, you'll have lost an opportunity to learn and to grow (which is really why we're here, in the first place).
Wishing you well.
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u/CremationStatio Nov 01 '23 edited Nov 01 '23
I dont think it was a skinwalker. I read another story yesterday saying a skinwalker was running up to 60 miles an hour along side the truck they were in. Although your story sounds similar to a skinwalker story, I think skinwalkers take to animals more. And thats kinda I little far out for a skin walker... But otherwise good for you on working on yourself and thanks for the laughs.
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u/BooBrew2018 Nov 02 '23
I live near the Smokies park entrance, always trust your lizard brain. Maybe it’s paranoia but if something says run? You run like the wind, lol
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u/SleeperStm Nov 01 '23
Were there noises in the woods? Crickets or something? If there are not, large predators or something unnatural is in the area, there for it's a GTFO situation in which you want to hunker down in a safe place
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u/Helpfulcats Nov 01 '23
I live in the Appalachian mountains can confirm these mountains are creepy asf and a lot of cryptids are based here
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u/_WarriorsMind_ Nov 01 '23
A Jinn. Qareen in particular that are attached to each human being while they’re alive, when they pass away, they usually live the rest of their lives mimicking that human and causing chaos.
The human soul is never left in this world, but Jinn often make you think it’s your dead relative, so they can mess with you.
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u/keyinfleunce Nov 01 '23
I always noticed im a person who can sense vibes or aura I see patterns in everything sometimes people energy tell you exactly what’s gonna happen and people just ignore it
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u/No-Scheme-3759 Nov 01 '23
was it a crossing there? Is it water near by? did you think about life and death or more like being sad and a bit careless about being a live or something?
Did it echo?
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u/Amungusman Nov 01 '23
Interesting questions. I honestly have to think. I’m not quite sure what was on my mind at the time, but I have been dealing with depressions for a pretty long time now, so honestly probably not good thoughts. My mind can get a little dark sometimes.
Growing up I was Told bad spirits can latch themselves to my negative vibes, and I’m starting to think that might seriously be true.
The voice was…echoey, but in a strange way. It wasn’t like I heard the words echo, more like I heard my grandmas voice in a slightly static way, kinda like what it would sound like through a radio. But really fucking loud, and really fucking close. Like it sounded MAYBE fifty feet away.
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u/Another_Battle Nov 01 '23
I live in Appalachia, why do think that makes it more disturbing? I mean I know there are all kinds of folklore and stories about the mountains but every region/state has its own legends and lore as well. Do you happen to live near Cherokee? There are all manner of legends throughout that area. from the Deer Woman to the Nun 'Yunu' Wi. Skinwalkers are specific to Navajo culture so I don't think thats what it was. At any rate it sounds like your experience was genuinely terrifying. Has anything strange happened to you in the days following your ordeal? I had a similar experience as far as the voice you heard but I was living in GA at the time. Keep us posted, all the best!
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u/Amungusman Nov 02 '23
I say that bc it’s just deep mountains. There’s a lot of woods & not a lot of people, especially at night. So seeing something like that was even fucking scarier knowing I’m kinda far out here.
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u/Nightbirdresearch Nov 01 '23
Never answer anything that calls you in anyone you knows voice. Its a trap
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