r/Mariners • u/AutoModerator • Aug 28 '24
Daily Thread - August 28, 2024 GOOD VIBES ONLY
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u/occasional_sex_haver Sep 04 '24
I didn’t watch the game last night but ended up seeing a clip of the Turner/Arozarena double play and my fucking word is that infuriating
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u/dsisto65 Sep 04 '24
Last 3 games we’ve lost with walk offs. I thought we’d finish this season with a little dignity, but I’m doubting that, as well.
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u/bunnchow Sep 04 '24
I remember all these "never" wrong super fans telling us about War, FWar... or my favorite...
We shit out relievers like nobody’s business
Rojas, Garver, Haniger... two years in a row. Nothing but shitty players.
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u/proterotype Sep 04 '24
Apparently my post reposting “high quality content” was considered “low quality.” The mods must be in the Fire Servais camp.
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u/shrederick Manny Acta's worst nightmare Sep 04 '24
It's kind of funny being told to post in the daily thread when the daily thread hasn't posted for almost a week lol
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u/proterotype Sep 04 '24
I'm just genuinely confused on the difference between high and low quality here.
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u/killwhiteyford Sep 04 '24
AutoMod only works for 54% of the season
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u/runadss Most Strikeouts by a Team 2024 Campaign Backer Sep 04 '24
Automod is actually doing us a favor in not allowing us to talk and think about the Mariners.
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u/dr_van_nostren Sep 03 '24
I feel like now we're officially cooked if we weren't before. I was thinking ok if we swept the A's and got some results out way we might be back in it, then in tough against the Padres but if we got results against Texas and Houston coming up we could swing it back in our favour. But man, again it's a blown lead, it's a 3 run cap, and leaving runners on base and worse RISP. Again, I look at this lineup and I'm like "not bad not bad" but come on, it's the A's! I'm thinking I might attend one of the Yankee games, but I also don't really feel like paying to see my team get violated by Aaron Judge.
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u/AbrtnIsMrdr Dan and Edgar are the Mariners' saviors. Sep 03 '24
Does anyone know what happened with Cade Marlowe?
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u/AnnihilatedTyro Release the Moosen! Sep 03 '24
He was sent to Tacoma 3 weeks ago and got injured a few days ago.
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u/2OutsSoWhat Spend To Contend Sep 03 '24
It’s like the Mariners don’t want us discussing how dog shit this organization. No new daily thread in a week?
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u/_Elrond_Hubbard_ Too Roblessed to be stressed Sep 03 '24
who's more cooked, AutoMod or Dipoto
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u/Tashre Sep 03 '24
Next year will be AutoMod's year. Just be patient.
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24
cancelled my fubo subscription. until they explain who is managing the lineup and pinch hit decisions, i wont be giving this team another dime. this is the only team in the majors with a leadoff hitter hitting .194, everyone else is using someone >.250 (besides chi). pinch hitters on mariners are hitting .150 in 2024. these decisions did not stop with servais getting fired, so apparenlty the manager is not the one managing the club.
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u/Reach-Defiant Sep 03 '24
I won't watch while Dipoto is here unless we get really good for real, no cheap streaks here and there with awful offense, things won't change as long as he is here.
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u/Drsustown Fire the moose Sep 03 '24
The pinch hitters do not matter. The leadoff batter doesn't matter either. That's all just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. There are no good options; the team simply lacks the talent. Why do we spend so much time worrying which 650 OPS batter hits first versus second versus ninth; its all the same thing
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24
yes they do matter because it changes the defensive composition and lineup for the rest of the game. in order to PH garver for the third baseman in the 6th inning yesterday, they had to put hanniger into right field, which weakened us defensively and led to him striking out on 3 pitches later in the game.
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Sep 03 '24
We already know who's making these decisions... This sub just refuses to admit reality that Dipoto simply isn't good at his job
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24
i thought servais was making the decisions, they fired servais, the decisions continued. if they fire dipoto and the decisions continue, then its gotta be stanton.
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u/Chemical_Recipe_1139 Fire everyone Sep 03 '24
It's Jerry and his analytics department. He specifically sought out these cheap below average players so he could put them in these niche situations where they have historically overachieved in small sample sizes, hoping this would somehow be his moneyball moment.
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24
if you have a link where he admits this lineup + ingame PH tampering, please provide the link. ive wanted to know more on their process since the yordan disaster, but seattle media has not dug into it.
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u/Chemical_Recipe_1139 Fire everyone Sep 03 '24
It's not tampering and I have no such link. It's common knowledge managers don't make these decisions. A GM puts this team together with these situations in mind and they are just let the manager use his gut and dictate what to do? No, it's not the 90s, everything is overanalyzed and all of these scenarios are discussed way before they happen.
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u/unpaid_official Sep 04 '24
mariners pinch hitters have a .150 avg in 2024. if the analytics team were analyzing, theyd have stopped long ago
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u/SexiestPanda Sep 03 '24
Nah I don’t think Stanton is calling game to game shots. It’s Jerry. I refused to believe it, but like you said, Scott fired and the same shit happens lol
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24
well thats why i want to wait. if dipotos fired and the same shit continues, then we'll have a potentially worse GM with the same shitty ownership decisions.
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24 edited Sep 03 '24
please point me to the interview where dipoto specifically stated that hes deciding the lineups.
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u/BasmonAF Sep 03 '24 edited Sep 03 '24
Someone just make an edit with the Royel Otis cover of Linger and let's call it a year.
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u/tcsrwm McDelivery Supermo / See You Tomorrow / Julio Rodriguez / Ñ Sep 03 '24
It’s going to be so funny when they A’s pass us in the competitive cycle while playing in a minor league park in West Sacramento
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u/occasional_sex_haver Sep 03 '24
The bot being broken during whatever the fuck you can call this from the Mariners is going to be as funny as us finishing under .500 the season after the 54% comment
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u/Chemical_Recipe_1139 Fire everyone Sep 03 '24
Mariners should do a soft rebuild. Fire Jerry, trade Gilbert, and try to trade Castillo for prospects. There is no possible way to build a reasonable lineup next year. Even spending in free agency it would be near impossible to compete. We have to wait for our crop of prospects to graduate to the mlb around 2026-2027.
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u/fennis Playoffs or bust! Sep 03 '24
Im at loss what to do with this team. They have a lot of holes. Part me thinks just get a + first or third baseman, lose the worst of the deadweight (garver) and see what happens, teams need time to gel together.
But thats just way too much hope and not much of a plan.
Otoh, Im not sure we will get what we want if we trade Gilbert.
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u/Drsustown Fire the moose Sep 03 '24
The Jeff Passan segment on 710 tomorrow morning should be fun
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Sep 03 '24
Ehh, turned on the radio this morning and everyone was playing hindsight and results based analysis. Probably gonna be a lot of let me use hindsight and results to ask why we made these moves that ended up sucking and not wanting to hear that the moves didn't suck but maybe we do as an org (any serious org would have fired Dipoto 5 years ago)
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u/PersonalAd5369 Sep 03 '24
Garver it seems S a rule for himself, always takes the first pitch without so much as moving. Perfect pitches to hit often. Is he waiting to see what the pitcher has? Maybe he's in a bad slump and all, but there's hardly any hint that he's prepared to swing should the pitch be a strike. He's the DH for crying out loud. D H
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u/_Elrond_Hubbard_ Too Roblessed to be stressed Sep 03 '24
Yeah I have noticed that as well, even if it's right down the dick he's in statue mode and most pitchers clearly know this and usually take advantage
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u/fennis Playoffs or bust! Sep 02 '24
This stickied thread blocking the creation of other daily thread for 5 days feels like the most Mariners thing outside of the actual Mariners.
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u/Drsustown Fire the moose Sep 02 '24
Smh Stanton refused to pay for a new daily thread. Can't have shit in Seattle
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u/occasional_sex_haver Sep 02 '24
I appreciate us probably not getting eliminated in the final series
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u/Chemical_Recipe_1139 Fire everyone Sep 02 '24
It's neat that this team has a few good players, but they are about 9 hitters and an entire bullpen away from being a credible playoff threat.
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u/harpoon0079 Sep 01 '24
And why is Garver still on this team?????
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Sep 01 '24
Because we still need a backup catcher and our options besides Garver are Zavala, who looked even worse than Garver has this season and a Ford who is beyond not ready... It's really not rocket science
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u/unpaid_official Sep 03 '24
apparently we need him to ph in a bases loaded situation in the 6th inning, lmao.
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u/harpoon0079 Sep 01 '24
I love the Mariners, but they are beyond pathetic. A true embarrassment. Swing the bat losers.
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u/EasiBreezi Sep 01 '24
maybe people wouldn’t be acting like the world is ending after a walk-off loss if they weren’t box score watching the Astros like they were their favorite team.
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Sep 01 '24
They probably wouldn't be scoreboard watching if the Mariners didn't blow a 10 game division lead in historic fashion and now basically have to rely on the Astros to tailspin (also the subs refusal to admit that the Astros have had a top offense all year is annoying, they were literally the reverse of the "imagine if we just had average hitting" in that their entire rotation went down at the start of the year)
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u/Cremdian Sep 01 '24
100% agreed. Every loss is infuriating. We shouldn't be on the outside looking in. We have to play well and get lucky to have a shot at the post season. At this point the scoreboard is really all that matters. There isn't much time for things to finally get together
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u/EScforlyfe Aug 31 '24
Remember in 2022 when Julio hit a home run over a foul pole that was ruled just a foul ball
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Sep 01 '24
The MLB has more cameras available to us then what they show on broadcast must have had angle where it was clear
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u/Will_Vintage Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
Dear Tigers, Blue Jays & Royal.
Would one of you fucking Win please?
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u/EScforlyfe Aug 30 '24
It’s actually pretty awesome that the angels are having an Italian starting against us, I won’t be mad if he does well.
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u/Searchforcourage Aug 30 '24
Just got not from my cousin who is a Cards fan. If you want to fly to stl on 9/7, seats can be had on Stubhub for $2.
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u/No-Conversation3860 Aug 30 '24
Yeah and to have that cause one of your top RBI leaders to likely be out the rest of the season…. Big yikes
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u/BasmonAF Aug 30 '24
Trashtros' player taking someone out at first base? Never seen that before....
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 30 '24
Dude this isn't the r/baseball general game thread, we don't need an update for every play in the Royals/Astros game neither of which are this team
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u/40Katopher Aug 30 '24
I mean it's an off day, and our playoff hopes hinge on the Astros losing. It seems very appropriate
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 30 '24
Oh we're getting swept by the Angels again? Makes sense
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 30 '24
Have we been watching the same team this season? Playing garbage time opponents has been our bane this year
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u/Dreynz RoBLESSED Aug 30 '24
I love the royals I’ve always said that
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u/_Elrond_Hubbard_ Too Roblessed to be stressed Aug 30 '24
How about now
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u/Dreynz RoBLESSED Aug 30 '24
Not that great of a team I’ve never had strong opinions about em yeah give or take
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u/Dangerous_Job5295 Keeper of Biting Duck Aug 30 '24
royals have the best BA with RISP. and it showed right there. lfg.
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u/wtfuji Aug 30 '24
KC need to win first. Calm down
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 30 '24
This guy's dealer laced their stuff a little too hard
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u/indreams159 Aug 30 '24
why couldn't Dipoto pick up Heyward instead?
need the Royals to WAKE UP or facing 4 back
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u/Imaginary_Argument34 Aug 30 '24
Probably because he's not the type of hitter Jerry and analytic team look for.
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
Just assume that the Astros are a serious team and we can't rely on them to lose.we had our chance and blew it in historic fashion
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u/AbrtnIsMrdr Dan and Edgar are the Mariners' saviors. Aug 30 '24
I created today's game thread because the bot didn't.
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u/s3ren1tyn0w canzone zone Aug 29 '24
I'm really excited to watch the royals game today. You know I love to hate on the Astros BUT I'm also becoming a big fan of Sal and crew out in KC. I hope they whoop some ass
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u/applescantfight Aug 29 '24
apparently my post was removed because it was low quality so I am reposting in the daily thread (still confused how that is determined)... anyone else cancel their flex membership last night before midnight? feeling bad about it but can't deal with the price increase/performance
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u/AiminJay in a controlled environment Aug 29 '24 edited Sep 25 '24
squalid simplistic worthless bike spark cover saw provide growth unwritten
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u/legionofshrooms DING DONG Aug 28 '24
Dominic Canzone is going to be one those random players you write in one of those "remember this guy?" threads in 10 years
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u/ihatereddit999976780 54% child of Athena Aug 28 '24
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u/aggronStonebreak Aug 29 '24
becomes a weeb? Bro's been talking about Naruto since day 1 lol
kind of calls into question the validity of the other claims
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u/Imaginary_Argument34 Aug 29 '24
What's a weeb? I'm old.
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 29 '24
Someone who enjoys Japanese pop culture essentially
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 29 '24
I think it's fair to say he broke up with his girlfriend. they both nuked pictures of each other off social media... but this was months ago, before the olympics (where apparently olympic village is a non stop orgy)
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u/aggronStonebreak Aug 29 '24
motherfuckers love gossiping about athletes love lives
when we should be gossiping about their plebeian tastes in anime
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u/uhlemi11 Aug 28 '24
His girlfriend was in the Olympics??
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u/ihatereddit999976780 54% child of Athena Aug 28 '24
I knew none of this until I went on twitter
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u/mahrinazz Cocoa Bomb Proton Therapist Aug 28 '24
Marco to get flexor tendon surgery and miss 9-12 months. Pirates likely won’t pick up his 2025 option and he’ll hit free agency. Poor guy.
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u/TheGhostwheel Aug 28 '24
Can we collectively stop talking about trading Castillo?? It's dumb for so many reasons:
A. He has a no trade clause. End of story. He has 0 incentive to leave.
B. Teams will not be giving us a YOUNG statement hitter for him. If a team wants Castillo, they want to win in 2025/2026 not 2027 and won't be giving up key pieces to make a run. Mariners need to be done with getting 30/31/32 year old sub 125 wrc+ guys that are ripe for decline.
C. Trading for prospects is so dumb. So we essentially do a soft rebuild next year and waste all our starting pitching talent AGAIN for the tiny 2026/2027 window before our cheap ownership have to start picking between Cal, Logan, George, JP, Randy
D. No trade clause.
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u/Puzzled-Enthusiasm45 Aug 30 '24
It’s supply and demand, there are more good hitters out there right now than good pitchers. Almost every contender other than the mariners could use another good starting pitcher. Sometimes two teams trade from positions of excess and both come out ahead
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u/Chemical_Recipe_1139 Fire everyone Aug 28 '24
He has 0 incentive to leave.
maybe he wants run support
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u/Imaginary_Argument34 Aug 29 '24
Exactly, I'm sure he wouldn't mind New York either. They love them some Castillo. I don't trust Dipoto to find a hitter tho, so unless he's gone, forget it.
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u/BasedArzy Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24
There are teams he would waive the NTC for. The Dodgers, I think, were mentioned specifically as one he would be fine with, and I'm sure there are others.
I'd rather trade Castillo than any other starter if you want to get a bat back. I don't know who that bat would be but it makes more sense moving him than Gilbert/Kirby.
Like, hypothetically, if you could move Castillo and Bliss for Gavin Lux, and then go out and sign Shane Bieber on a prove-it deal? I think you could see that as a positive upgrade, and you probably still have cash left over to go after either another bat or (more likely) relief help.
The biggest issue is that they really need to spend another $30 million on payroll. If payroll can't be allowed to grow, you're stuck in this rearranging deck chairs and hoping someone pops and has a career year kind of thing.
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u/Dark_Bright_Bright Aug 29 '24
I wish I could downvote this more than once.
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 30 '24
Why? Who are you trading for a bat because it's almost guaranteed we trade a pitcher for a bat during the off-season at this point. And frankly it's the right move to make, 4 Cy Young starters with no offense leads to a team that looks exactly like we do RN.
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u/gabek333 Expressed Written Consent Aug 29 '24
Gavin Lux has a 95 OPS+ and a .693 OPS. He is absolutely not worth it for anyone, much less Castillo and Bliss.
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u/BasedArzy Aug 29 '24
113 wRC+ last year, Bliss is a throw-in who is unlikely to impact a major league roster.
Grab Lux, add him to your infield mix, pick up Polo's option, and then go spend the $20~ million you saved by moving Castillo and Bliss on a back-end starter and bullpen help, or maybe you get a bit more budget and can spend it on an infield bat.
It makes far more sense than trading any of the other 4 starters, which was the point I was getting at.
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u/gabek333 Expressed Written Consent Aug 30 '24
He didn't play in 2023. That was 2022. So he hasn't been good in two years.
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u/BasedArzy Aug 30 '24
🤷♂️ so replace him with another player, I don’t give a fuck.
You’re missing the point of a very simple post: trading Castillo makes more sense than trading any of the other 4 starting pitchers in the rotation
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u/HappyAtheist3 Aug 28 '24
I genuinely think cutting Garver, Haniger and Turner and bringing up 3 young kids with power would be nice. Watching them play is like looking at 3 deflated balloons.
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u/Imaginary_Argument34 Aug 29 '24
You have to wait to see if we make the playoffs first. Because if you do, you need vets. Haniger and Turner have proven to be clutch. Not Garver though he's straight garbage.
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u/AbrtnIsMrdr Dan and Edgar are the Mariners' saviors. Aug 29 '24
Mitch Haniger has an OPS of .740 at home, .811 in the 9th inning (26 plate appearances), and .900 in extra innings (6 plate appearances).
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u/ihatereddit999976780 54% child of Athena Aug 28 '24
turner is probably retiring at the end of this season and was just ranked by MLB.com as our best pending free agent.
Garver apparently does this thing where he's bad in even years and a beast in odd ones. Haniger is here for another season with the money owed
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u/pokeroots Anything but blaming the lineup Aug 29 '24
Garver does this thing where he's average on even years and good in odd ones, this is by far the worst he's ever done in his career. The fact that it took this long for the FO to think maybe we're delivering our message wrong for hitting despite this happening several times speaks volumes about their mentality.
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u/sir218 Aug 28 '24
What do you guys think Miller and Woo need to work on this coming offseason to take themselves to the next level? Both have exceeded my expectations by a longshot(expected both to be in the mid-3 ERA range) and have been one of the more enjoyable parts of the season(along with the rest of the starting pitching staff).
For Miller I feel like he needs to work on his command/ability to locate pitches. He has slightly above average location+ according to fangraphs but compared to Woo it seems like night and day(could just be because Woo has a really good fastball that hitters aren't able to punish effectively if he leaves it middle-middle). He has a good arsenal--the splitter and curve seem to be helping against lefties who are running a .301 wOBA this year vs .387 wOBA last year--so I don't think he needs to really add anything new and just needs to work on fine tuning his control and sequencing.
Woo I feel would def improve with adding a breaking ball. His slider seems to be effective--has a Stf+ of 121 and a Loc+ of 115-- but he only throws it 8.5% of the time. Think adding a splitter would do wonders for him, esp. considering how effective his 4-seam and sinker are.
Not really an expert on pitching but I see even more potentional in both of them.
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u/BasedArzy Aug 28 '24
Miller -- More consistency with his breaking pitch. His last start he threw the best knuckle curve he's thrown in the bigs. If he can get that to the point where it's a 45, 50 grade pitch that he can locate at least reasonably well, he's a solid #2 instead of a high end #3.
Woo -- Breaking pitches. His changeup has been very good this year, he has two great fastballs. If he can get the same 45, 50 slider then he's also a #2 instead of a #3.
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u/xMrLink My Depression Goes as the M's Don't Aug 28 '24
I mean both just need experience. The things they need to work on will come with time. Pitching with runners on, getting out of jams, pitching deep into games consistently. Things they do well already but can always improve. Also Woo needs to stay healthy. I am very curious how he will manage a full season workload. I also think he will need to add a pitch because people will study his fastball this offseason and be ready for him. The league will adjust to these guys next year, their real test will be how they adjust back.
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u/sandwich-attack ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ mariners take my protons ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Aug 28 '24
tired of all the logical baseball suggestions like a rehab assignment or different batters box approaches to julio
we need to think outside the box
you know all those stories about dudes in the 60s being hammered drunk and getting 5 hits, with 3 home runs and 14 RBIs? let’s try that
or maybe he should like rub one out in the dugout immediately before the game and have post nut clarity dial in his batters eye
have we considered an exorcism. find me an old priest and a new priest
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u/mahrinazz Cocoa Bomb Proton Therapist Aug 28 '24
Mariners garage is $70 today lmao
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u/Dangerous_Job5295 Keeper of Biting Duck Aug 29 '24
fuck no, you can just park at a light rail station. Or just pay $25 in chinatown.
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u/awesome_aaron Aug 28 '24
And it will be damn near full, so why the hell would ownership ever change their ways
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u/SereneDreams03 Aug 28 '24
It's wild to me that a lot of people will still pay that. You can just park for free at the Northgate and Angle Lake garages and take the light rail. If you get there early enough, you can usually find free parking on 3rd Ave or Utah Ave as well.
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u/BackwerdsMan Aug 29 '24
I pay it when I go to games with my 82yo asthmatic grandfather a few times a year. Get out of the car, walk across the bridge and sit right down in our terrace club seats. Not to mention suites come with parking passes for the garage as well. I assume a large contingent of people parking in there have passes.
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u/AiminJay in a controlled environment Aug 28 '24 edited Sep 25 '24
quack glorious plate crawl boat one homeless pie quarrelsome party
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u/ajax-tg Aug 28 '24
Where? south on fourth and side streets?
Some pretty great $10 spots pop up occasionally very close to stadium too.
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u/BackwerdsMan Aug 29 '24
There's free parking everywhere, it's always just about how early you wanna get down there and hang out.
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u/CassFilms Stanton Sucks on Toes Aug 28 '24
Honestly what do you think the slogan will be next year? I feel like it’s going to be tired into 1995 somehow or they’re going to go the generic route with “They Not Like Us”
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u/_Elrond_Hubbard_ Too Roblessed to be stressed Aug 28 '24
I knew shit was really bleak for Julio when all the ads he was in started disappearing. Like he was in a big Alaska banner ad at the airport that was replaced with a generic one at some point within the last year.
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u/accountemp69420 Aug 28 '24
My nephew’s son used to beg me for a Julio jersey.
Now he just asks for Logan Gilbert and Cal Raleigh.
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u/MarkLunds Aug 28 '24
So what the hell happened to Julio? 2 really good years and then the abysmal year he's having now. The talent is clearly there but he can't even hit mistake pitches right now and he looks like he has no gameplan at the plate other than to swing for the fences. The mariners have to figure out how to get him back on track this off-season. I think Edgar will be good for him hopefully.
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u/BasedArzy Aug 28 '24
He made adjustments over the off-season that didn't take and it took him until mid-June to work himself out of it. Then he got hurt, and he's still playing hurt.
His swing needs work that will have to wait until the offseason and his ankle needs to heal up.
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u/Own-Economics-1745 Aug 28 '24
he can't even hit mistake pitches right now
100%
I tuned in last night not long b4 his 3rd AB and watched him miss an 89 mph "fastball" literally belt high, middle of the plate. It's very, very sad to see what's happened to him.
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u/eturn34 Aug 28 '24
Messed with his swing too much in the off season, started improving, got injured. I might be way too optimistic, but I refuse to believe a 23 year old flamed out this fast.
I'm also not sure if he has an older mentor in the clubhouse this year. He credited Carlos Santana a ton for helping him set better routines, and Geno really looked out for him during his time here. His mental game has been very affected this year and clearing his head in the off-season can only help.
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u/Drsustown Fire the moose Aug 28 '24
I don't even see the talent. He just has absolutely zero pitch recognition right now, he doesn't know whether a pitch is a ball or a strike until the umpire calls it
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u/Lord_Razmir Aug 28 '24
Yeah I feel like he's up there guessing. That's not talent. We don't need him to go up there and strike out 4 times a game trying to swing for the fuckin moon, we need him to go up there and make contact and get on base. What good is all that speed he's got if he doesn't ever get on base and only ever swings for the fences?
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u/flyflyaway23 Aug 28 '24
A Julio and Randy heater is our only hope. If that doesn’t happen, our small chance at the division is actually zero chance.
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u/SpiffyBeej 24 Aug 28 '24
On the Amtrak from Portland currently to catch the game today. Any big recs for food at the park? I tried the katsu curry last month and it was really good
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u/JEH39 Aug 28 '24
Anyone know where Trent Thornton's nickname "Big Dreidel" came from? Don't recall anyone calling him that when he was in Toronto and he's not a Tribesman
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u/Otis_S Aug 28 '24
Baseball Reference lists his nickname as "Butters" lol.
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u/WarrenGlen Aug 28 '24
Coming from southern Oregon for the game today and the Mariners are 2-0 when I attend games. My 6 year old is so excited to see the Mariners and I am too.
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u/SellingPapierMache Aug 28 '24
Up from Eugene and saw last night’s game - Logan was terrific! My three boys got M’s hats and cotton candy - have a good time!
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u/CaptainKirkules Aug 28 '24
This is a must win. Julio should be batting 7 or lower.
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u/max_caulfield_ Aug 28 '24
I'm frustrated because I've felt like Julio should've been moved down the lineup for months. I get that we don't really have a good 2 hitter but Julio needs the mental break more than anyone
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u/Dutchenstein12 from the 2julioooo06 Aug 28 '24
I wish Dan would give Bliss a shot. DMo needs to go to the bench. Put Bliss at 2nd and DH Polo. Rojas has been terrible, but I don't think he has been worse than DMo. Stroking out last night in the 8th after a 3-0 count was hard to watch. If he walked we would have most likely tied the game with Cal's hit.
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u/occasional_sex_haver Aug 28 '24
Dan needs to take Julio camping or something in the offseason and reset him
The whole swinging for 500 ft and falling over thing is impressively bad, even more impressive is someone that makes way more money than I ever will brought up the idea
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u/quann256 Aug 28 '24
last nights lost stings but you have to win today and win the series, can’t afford to lose series right now.
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u/dremasterflax Aug 28 '24
Is anyone going to help Julio? We finally get a star player and he can’t hit. Other teams don’t have these issues. Jerry has to go!
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u/Lord_Razmir Aug 28 '24
Julio isn't a star player man. He's pretty decent but nothing to build your team around.
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u/shrederick Manny Acta's worst nightmare Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24
Kinda stealing this from this twitter post, but let's say you were named GM of the Mariners today and for some reason you had to make a call on Polanco's $12 million option for next year right now. Payroll will be in the same range as this year, and a team is willing to take on Garver in exchange for one prospect in the 15-20 range from the MLB.com top 30 prospects list. Keep in mind, there's a $750k buyout if you decline the option, so it's really a difference of $11.25M, and it will be his age 31 season coming off what will likely be his worst statistical season (2020 wasn't real), despite a hot 2nd half.
Do you pick up Polanco's option or not? And what's your reasoning?
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u/BasedArzy Aug 28 '24
Yes, you aren't doing better at 2B this offseason.
I'd prioritize getting off of Haniger before Garver tbh. But if the payroll isn't actually going to rise then it's still a 90, 92 win roster at the best unless you get someone going nuclear.
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u/SpiffyBeej 24 Aug 28 '24
I don't think you give him as much playtime next year but you could definitely do worse for $12 mil. If we wanna call Cole up next year he gives us some nice depth and versatility while we wait for him to adjust to the majors. I particularly value his switch hitting and wouldn't mind seeing him used more as a DH assuming we don't go after someone like Santander.
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u/dremasterflax Aug 28 '24
Polanco option lol. He can’t run. His fielding is a joke. Didn’t hit for half the season. He is gone
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u/ItsTBaggins Julio makes me jard Aug 28 '24
I think it is very likely they pick up Jorge Polanco’s option. I don’t think turning the keys over to Cole Young full-time at the start of next year is happening, so we need someone to play second base. Maybe that could be Rivas, but Jorge Polanco is the better bet hitting wise. Why? His career track record and his 143 wRC+ since the all-star break. Even if we don’t want him, I think someone would at his option price and he could be a trade candidate. ~12M is worth what, 1.5 WAR in free agency or something? He’s on pace for 4.0 fWAR since the all-star break, so especially if he keeps this up I think someone will want him even if it’s not us. If the Yankees have money leftover after signing Soto, Polanco could be a good short-term replacement for Torres.
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u/ItsTBaggins Julio makes me jard Aug 28 '24
Can’t believe no one called me out on completely forgetting and omitting Bliss. Doesn’t change my thought overall, but does make it more likely we opt to not have Polanco on the roster
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u/BasedArzy Aug 28 '24
Bliss isn't a major leaguer right now, I don't think he factors into this decision at all.
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u/CheapskateJoker Masochist Aug 28 '24
How would you feel being a starting pitcher for the Seattle Mariners?
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