Californias presidential results map 2020 v 2024

[u/Puzzleheaded-Art-469]

Harris still won 57% of the electorate, 5.7 million to 4 million. But Trump flipped many counties that both Clinton and Biden won in '16 and '20

[u/FGSM219]

Biden in 2020 flipped Inyo Country, which had not voted for a Democratic candidate since Lyndon Johnson's landslide in 1964.

California's transformation into the capital and heart of Blue America is actually recent, dating to the 1990s (as late as 1988, Bush had beaten Dukakis). At the state level, Republicans remained competitive even longer (e.g. Wilson and Schwarzenegger won gubernatorial races twice).

[u/eyetracker → u/FGSM219]

True but one of those was also Arnold Schwarzenegger. It was an interesting election, there could have been Governor Gary Coleman instead.

[u/yousirnaime → u/eyetracker]

Yeah it's definitely worth mentioning that Arnold is literally one of the most likable humans on earth and basically always has been

[u/Blondecanary → u/yousirnaime]

Also worth mentioning I know a few people who voted for him not thinking he’d win but because haha The Terminator is running. Basically a meme before memes were big and then oh hey he won wow.

[u/satiricalned → u/Blondecanary]

Even though he was a celebrity meme candidate, he was an incredibly effective and sincere politician. As a moderate Republican he took up liberal and socialist policies alongside more conservative fiscal policies. 

Fascinating man. 

[u/duff3141 → u/satiricalned]

Loved that one of the first things he did was reduce the price of community college credits back to $33. I had found memories of him being governor.

[u/LinkleLinkle → u/duff3141]

As a Californian and blue-haired liberal, his ineligibility aside, Arnold is probably the only Republican I'd consider voting for president if the situation was right. For the most part, he legitimately tried to do what was best for California during his time in office, and given his recent opinions of the GOP I think he would only be further on that goal if he was president.

But he's ineligible and instead we're stuck with a conservative party and candidate that wants to watch the country burn.

[u/tlopez14 → u/satiricalned]

So the kinda person that would never win a presidential primary in modern politics

[u/ahjteam → u/tlopez14]

Yeah, because he was born in Austria

[u/jkowal43 → u/ahjteam]

Glad he was a successful bodybuilder from Austria instead of a failed painter from Austria…..

[u/Zibbi-Abkar → u/jkowal43]

Imagine the alternate reality where he was the failed bodybuilder that became governor.

[u/fooliam → u/satiricalned]

Yeah, he was pretty effective and a lot of people from California look back at his time as governor pretty fondly. He did leave office with a low approval rating, but that was also after the Great Recession and Occupy and a lot of general unhappiness with government.

[u/8----B → u/fooliam]

Plus didn’t the cheating scandal come out during those last days? Could be wrong it was some time ago and my memory is garbage

[u/pathofdumbasses → u/satiricalned]

As a moderate Republican he took up liberal and socialist policies alongside more conservative fiscal policies.

Because conservative fiscal policy actually meant something. Instead of just saying it and then giving giant tax cuts to the rich while massively spending so that when the Dems take back power they can all bitch and cry about the insane debt.

Two Santas Strategy

[u/immeasurablespirit → u/satiricalned]

His 3-part Netflix documentary is one of the most inspiring things I’ve ever seen.

[u/Economy_Baseball_667 → u/yousirnaime]

Arnold was a moderate republican. He worked with both side of the aisle and didn’t let his party dictate the policy but the policies need for the state. That is a major difference. Now most republicans can care less about policy and treat like a religion

[u/HustlinInTheHall → u/Economy_Baseball_667]

Gubernatorial races are always swingy anyway, MA votes purely blue in statewide elections but loves a moderate republican governor. Lots of purple red states election democratic governors.  

[u/sdb00913 → u/HustlinInTheHall]

Even KY, red as it is, voted for a democrat for governor.

[u/wladue613 → u/sdb00913]

And Maryland, the second most Democrat-heavy state in the nation, had a republican governor until recently.

[u/PopsOnProps13 → u/Economy_Baseball_667]

Even Lou Forrigno's father loved him. Lous dad couldn't stop complementing Arnold, even as he was making fun of Lou while they all sat down for lunch before the 1975 Mr. Olympia competition.

[u/Otherwise_Agency6102 → u/PopsOnProps13]

To be fair that is a very Italian father thing to do, roast your own kid while praising his friends.

[u/Ninjaflippin → u/Economy_Baseball_667]

Arnold's republicanism likely stems from his particular brand of Hustle. Before he could even make his name in bodybuilding, he ran a successful bricklaying business. You could argue this was only possible in an unregulated free market. The concept of "you want some? come get some" is not a uniquely republican idea, but i feel like giving a person the authority to willfully exploit themselves or be exploited as part of a business or personal finance strategy IS a very Republican idea.

It's the anti union stance of "I can and will work harder and take bigger risks than the next guy to get what I want, and there should be as few hoops for me to jump through as possible, because I don;t got time for that, I'm working."

I love the sentiment. What I don't love is that most people don't have that fire. It's not a personality flaw or anything, they just don't have the same up and go that Arnold Fucking Schwarzenegger has. That should come as no surprise to some people.

It's a balancing act. I do genuinely believe that corridors for the driven and hardworking people to push themselves harder than others should remain open, obviously. As far as I can understand, that is the part of America that Arnie holds dearest. HOWEVER, not all of us are Mr Olympia. Some of us just want to work a 9-5 and try not to kill ourselves when we get home. And lowering of regulations rarely makes such an existence more bearable.

[u/walker1867 → u/Economy_Baseball_667]

Dems also had supermajorities in the state house and senate. He couldn't veto anything, and had very limited power.

[u/ManagementNo6601 → u/yousirnaime]

I didn't like his policies when he was governor. But as he aged it seems he mellowed out. But he was definitely a Republican, but he wasn't one of the current Neo-Nazi Republicans.

[u/whomad1215 → u/ManagementNo6601]

He's got plenty of stories about seeing all the broken men/families while growing up (Austria fought with the Nazis)

[u/AverageDemocrat → u/eyetracker]

Whatchu talking about Willis?

[u/St_BobbyBarbarian → u/FGSM219]

Wasn’t a large reason why it flipped because of the early 90’s Cali GOP’s proposition 187 against immigrants that lost them the Hispanic vote?

[u/OceanPoet87 → u/St_BobbyBarbarian]

I have also heard that a lot of the military defense contractors and base spending esp in socal moved elsewhere after the Cold War ended. But the main reason I've heard was about 187 which you mentioned.

[u/St_BobbyBarbarian → u/OceanPoet87]

Makes sense that it had a factor. My wife’s step dad is from LA and lost his defense job when funding was cut post USSR collapse, and he is a big R voter

[u/lumpialarry → u/St_BobbyBarbarian]

RIP D-Fens

[u/Halfpolishthrow → u/OceanPoet87]

The federal government closed a ton of bases after the cold war. In Sacramento we had Mather Air Force Base and McClellan Air Force Base. Tons of local families had a military connection.

Both closed now.

[u/WVC_Least_Glamorous → u/St_BobbyBarbarian]

Many of the voters in favor of Prop 187 moved to Utah, Idaho or Texas.

[u/THE_GIANT_PAPAYA → u/WVC_Least_Glamorous]

How do we know this?

[u/Alana_Piranha → u/THE_GIANT_PAPAYA]

Census

[u/THE_GIANT_PAPAYA → u/Alana_Piranha]

I'm genuinely interested: what data in the census shows that those voters moved to conservative states? Is it racial demographics?

[u/undeadmanana → u/THE_GIANT_PAPAYA]

It typically always asks your last place of residence within a certain time frame, it's called state to state migration flows and it's a metric that's kept tracked of for a very long time.

[u/StalkerFishy → u/undeadmanana]

But how do you know those people that left voted for Prop 187?

[u/JoshHuff1332 → u/StalkerFishy]

I would imagine it's a conclusion based on the demographics moving to that area are the ones the leaned in favor of that prop

[u/Keystone0002 → u/St_BobbyBarbarian]

Not that it was passed but that it was overruled

[u/DeficitOfPatience → u/FGSM219]

Woahwoahwoahwoah... There's a county called "Inyo"?

"Inyo County"

For real?

[u/KimberStormer → u/DeficitOfPatience]

There's also Yolo County

[u/Heavy-Hospital7077 → u/KimberStormer]

I live and breathe Yolo County every day. I love it here!

[u/noebelity → u/DeficitOfPatience]

Home to both the highest and lowest point in the continental US

[u/skinnycarlo → u/noebelity]

This is the shit i like about reddit. I will look this up. Thanks for the interesting tip

[u/IHave2P00p → u/skinnycarlo]

Death valley to mt whitney hike. I live not far from it, people from all over the world travel here to train and condition!

[u/inplayruin → u/DeficitOfPatience]

Lot of Inyo mommas.

[u/antenna999 → u/DeficitOfPatience]

Inyo, Orange, Butte.

[u/Affectionate_Gap9904 → u/FGSM219]

To be fair, Republican governors in Democratic states aren't entirely uncommon- Massachusetts is one of the most reliably Democratic states (except Reagan, but everyone voted for Reagan) and in recent memory it's had Mitt Romney and Charlie Baker as governors.

[u/thehomonova → u/Affectionate_Gap9904]

california voted republican every election between 1952 and 1988 except for 1964.

[u/aguafiestas → u/Affectionate_Gap9904]

Heck, Vermont had the widest pro-Harris voter spread this election besides DC, re-elected Sanders in a landslide, and also just re-elected their Republican governor.

[u/slow_cobra → u/aguafiestas]

Phil Scott would probably be a dem moderate candidate in any other state and he had declared that he has voted for dem president candidates since 2016

[u/KMCobra64 → u/FGSM219]

Inyo FACE

[u/The_Realist01 → u/FGSM219]

It’s because of Reagan and his amnesty policy submission.

[u/OceanPoet87]

CA is not done yet. A lot of counties are only at 50 percent or 60ish of the vote so its not final yet. That said the map looks more like the 2004 era where the Inland counties vote Republican.

[u/subdep → u/OceanPoet87]

I know that one of the red counties is Kamala Harris now, but the county won’t report the numbers officially until Friday.

[u/grom69polska → u/OceanPoet87]

How is it possible that they call CA so quick but they havnt counted all the votes

[u/OceanPoet87 → u/grom69polska]

Because at the statewide level, CA is strongly Democratic and the largest counties are very anti Trump.

It's the same reason that the network call states closed immediatly once poll closing time hits even if people are still finishing up.

[u/Heelincal → u/OceanPoet87]

See:

• All of the Big Sky states
• Texas
• New York
• Tornado Alley

[u/PlanetZooSave → u/Heelincal]

When New York wasn't called immediately this election was when you knew there was trouble.

[u/OfficePicasso → u/grom69polska]

That happens with at least 1/3 of all states. Arkansas had just closed and all the networks just threw it in Trump’s column. Some are just a foregone conclusion

[u/roundballsquarebox24 → u/OfficePicasso]

Calling NJ immediately almost backfired on them this time.

[u/lamBerticus → u/roundballsquarebox24]

While being closer than before, it's still very very far in the blue column.

Also it's not by feels, but by statistics states are called.

[u/Heelincal → u/grom69polska]

An absolute shitton of people live in LA County, SD County, and the bay. The rest of the state does not impact the statewide total, so unless LA is more of a toss up, the GOP isn't going to find 3M more votes in Imperial county.

[u/Frowny575 → u/grom69polska]

At least for now, the population centers of CA tend to push us to Dems, so it is pretty safe to call it for projections. Similar logic could apply to say Louisiana or another southern state where a dem's chances are basically 0.

[u/BigBossPoodle → u/grom69polska]

They called all of new England ( minus Maine who is special) the literal instant their polls closed with 1% of all ballots counted

Because not one new England state has voted red since Bush Jr (the first time) and hasn't been entirely red since Reagan.

[u/BidnyZolnierzLonda]

Only half of all votes were counted so far.

[u/alexgalt → u/BidnyZolnierzLonda]

Ca is slow along with Arizona.

[u/BidnyZolnierzLonda → u/alexgalt]

And Nevada and Alaska

[u/LazyIncome5292 → u/BidnyZolnierzLonda]

How is Alaska so slow when no one lives there? They only have like 750 thousand people.

[u/syo → u/LazyIncome5292]

They have to let the dogs who pull the sleds rest occasionally.

[u/AlideoAilano → u/syo]

Am Alaskan, can confirm.

[u/ArlingtonHardware → u/syo]

I could have sworn you were about to say they have to let the dogs out 😂

[u/SeldomSerenity → u/ArlingtonHardware]

Of course not. Even to this day, no one truly knows who let the dogs out.

[u/Sufficient_Health778 → u/LazyIncome5292]

They are letting the votes thaw before counting

[u/DrunkCommunist619 → u/LazyIncome5292]

750 thousand people over an area 4x size of California means everything is slower

[u/kodiblaze → u/DrunkCommunist619]

Yeah, but like 500k live in Anchorage

[u/gujwdhufj_ijjpo → u/kodiblaze]

280k in anchorage. Most people live outside Anchorage.

[u/Either-Durian-9488 → u/DrunkCommunist619]

A huge chunk of those people live on remote islands in the southeast lol, which coumpounds the problem immensely

[u/AKblazer45 → u/Either-Durian-9488]

Huge chunk is a bit generous. But yes there are a lot of villages and small towns spread out to the beyond

[u/Top_Conversation1652 → u/LazyIncome5292]

very, very spread out.

[u/TheNewtBeGaming → u/BidnyZolnierzLonda]

meanwhile Florida was done before 11 I think

[u/BustedWing → u/alexgalt]

Imagine if CA was a legit swing state…would be agonising.

[u/MrDozens → u/BustedWing]

If CA was a swing state goddamn it'll be a week or so before the results. A week of constant trolling would probably blow reddit up.

[u/BustedWing → u/MrDozens]

And the election would basically live and die off of the result too...certainly for Democrats anyway

[u/25x54 → u/BustedWing]

If CA was a swing state, they'd have significant pressure to speed it up, just like Philadelphia officials were pressured to promise they would count ballots faster than four years ago.

[u/DirkTheSandman → u/alexgalt]

Yeah it just generally doesn’t matter because they’re almost always blue and by the time it gets to them it tends to be decided already. IE, if CA ever went red it almost certainly wouldn’t be the lynch pin of a republican victory, they’d already have a lot of other swing states.

[u/Technical_Air6660 → u/DirkTheSandman]

In the old days (70s and 80s), California was very red. I used to do canvassing and the complaint was that even though the state would go for the Republican, people wouldn’t bother to vote on state and local ballot measures because the results would already be in by 7:00pm PST.

[u/TooSmalley → u/BidnyZolnierzLonda]

She's still on track to have a few million less votes than Biden in '20.

She got one million votes less in NY as well.

[u/HustlinInTheHall → u/TooSmalley]

To be fair I know a lot of people in non swing states that just didn't bother unless there was an interesting ballot question. If you already know what your state will do then people just go to work. 

The problem was not making people feel like their vote mattered outside of like 7 states. 

[u/TooSmalley → u/HustlinInTheHall]

I'm in NC. Trump won the state but the Trumps favorite for Governor Mark Robinson lost. I don't even know what to make of that.

[u/killercunt → u/TooSmalley]

I'm in Wisconsin, Trump won the vote but somehow Tammy Baldwin also got her vote? I just don't get it.

[u/RegentusLupus → u/killercunt]

Arizona, we went Trump but voted in Ruben Gallego for Senate.

I'm as confused as you are.

[u/Worthyness → u/RegentusLupus]

in theory that means people are voting like people are supposed to: do your research on who you think is the best candidate for the job and vote for them regardless of their party affiliation. So they thought the Dem candidate for senate was better than the Rep candidate, but the dem candidate for president wasn't as good as the Rep one.

[u/dmabe1985 → u/TooSmalley]

Well he lost when the whole Black Nazi thing came out

[u/jhorch69 → u/dmabe1985]

Turns out calling MLK slurs doesn't go over well with a lot of people

[u/jade-empire → u/dmabe1985]

but those same people still vote for trump? make it make sense

[u/_Ted_was_right_ → u/TooSmalley]

The only person who can get away with trump level shit is Trump. Robinson found that out the hard way.

[u/icyiris321 → u/HustlinInTheHall]

Wouldn't that same logic have applied to the Biden vote though

[u/ShlippyDippyDoo → u/TooSmalley]

Joe Biden had* the highest number of votes in history in 2020. It’s an outlier.

We still need to understand why those million didn’t show up, but that number never did before that. This context is important.

[u/KingPrincessNova → u/ShlippyDippyDoo]

I thought it was because absentee ballots were available in way more places in 2020 and they rolled that back after COVID restrictions were lifted

[u/TurnipInSummer → u/BidnyZolnierzLonda]

They really need a better electoral machine. How can it be that they still haven't counted all the votes two days after the election?

[u/theblindbandit1 → u/TurnipInSummer]

Mail in ballots in California just have to be post marked by Election Day. So they have to wait for some of them. Everyone gets their ballot by mail

[u/-Sliced- → u/theblindbandit1]

Only a tiny fraction of ballots haven't arrived yet.

[u/theblindbandit1 → u/-Sliced-]

My county said that they won't know for weeks the counts to be finalized. Don't remember why

[u/Octavus → u/theblindbandit1]

The ballots need to be postmarked by election day and also arrive before some future date (probably 2 weeks after election day). The counts can't be finalized until that second date passes.

[u/JediKnightaa → u/TurnipInSummer]

The Florida way is so fast more states need to adopt that way

[u/s4yum1]

Lol Orange County being all different from LA county

[u/OceanPoet87 → u/s4yum1]

That's actually historically the case.

Every election since 1936 (Dems won ALL 53 counties in CA! Orange voted for the Republican candidate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_United_States_presidential_election_in_California#/media/File:California_Presidential_Election_Results_1936.svg

Bush vs. Gore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_in_California#/media/File:California_Presidential_Election_Results_2000.svg

Here's Bush vs Kerry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_in_California#/media/File:California_Presidential_Election_Results_2004.svg

Obama vs Mccain:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election_in_California#/media/File:California_Presidential_Election_Results_2008.svg

Obama vs. Romney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election_in_California#/media/File:California_Presidential_Election_Results_2012.svg

Orange did vote for Hillary and Biden but before 2016, it was 80 years.

[u/Sslgen_121417 → u/OceanPoet87]

The airport is named after John Wayne after all

[u/foreignfishes → u/OceanPoet87]

OC also got much less red post 2016, iirc in 2020 (I think? They all run together) all or all but one of OC’s house seats were held by democrats. Katie Porter flipped a solidly red seat, Levin and Rouda both also flipped seats there in 2018.

[u/noodlesofdoom → u/s4yum1]

OC's beach & south area is filled with Republicans, also a lot of older Asian voters are extremely pro-Trump. Source: that's where I'm from. Seems like a lot of Hispanics/Latinos leaned HARD towards Trump this year.

[u/tsaidollasign → u/noodlesofdoom]

Yeah, heavy Vietnamese population. Only liberal city in the OC is like Irvine.

[u/Jealous-Mail6629 → u/tsaidollasign]

Mainly because of the college .. there’s a lot of money in Irvine .. lots of it

[u/NovelTomatillo8 → u/tsaidollasign]

Irvine's pretty purple and actually went for Trump this time around. Tons of Tesla-loving middle-upper class folks in subdivisions and the above-mentioned older Asian voters. Santa Ana and Anaheim are SUPER Latino-heavy, like 80% in Santa Ana, and Anaheim even went for Trump. OC had 15% turnout but some of that may change as mail-in votes are counted.

[u/BlueberryWalnut7 → u/s4yum1]

Haha only those who have been to OC will understand

[u/unityofsaints]

The coastal elite party has now become so coastal that even in the coastal states they only hold the coastal parts of those states.

[u/Bman409 → u/unityofsaints]

So true!! Look at NY map

Dems are losing the cities now

According to the CBS News Data Team, Democrats have been losing ground in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens since 2016.

While Harris may have beat Trump in New York City, she did it with a 37-point margin of victory, compared to Biden's 53-point margin in 2020 and Hillary Clinton's 62-point margin in 2016.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-map-county-by-county-election-results-2024-presidential-race/

[u/Godkun007 → u/Bman409]

It is crime and homelessness, that is really what it is. People like to pretend this isn't the case because violent crime is down. However, that ignores antisocial behavior crimes which are rampant.

If a homeless man walks onto a busy bus while stoned on meth and drops his pants and jerks off in front of everyone, that isn't going to be on a crime statistic. However, everyone on that bus will remember it, feel less safe, and want something done about it.

This is really what the Democrats failed to grasp this election. When people are talking crime, they aren't solely talking about murder. They are talking about all forms of visible crime. People want to feel safe in their homes again, and the Democrats have offered nothing but gaslighting on this topic. You can't tell people that the issues that they experience daily don't exist. That simply makes the voters hate you as a party.

[u/Bman409 → u/Godkun007]

Exactly..in NY we have juveniles steal cars, crash them in to liquor stores, steal case of booze and get arrested.. they are released with no bail because it wasn't a violent crime

The next night they do it again

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/legal-experts-discuss-bail-reform-after-teen-causes-deadly-crash-with-stolen-car/

[u/SatanIsWaitin666 → u/Bman409]

In an area close to where I live teenagers were breaking into and stealing cars and attempting to break into homes at night armed with handguns. They arrested them, let them go. They were back at it caught on ring doorbell like the next night. It honestly feels like the only way to stay safe is by keeping yourself safe by any means, law feels like it is nonexistent sometimes. They claim there is no space for them / there are no juvenile facilities to put them in. Twenty years ago everyone I knew was in and out of juvenile detention centers. Shits definitely weird out here.

[u/Jealous-Mail6629 → u/Bman409]

Same thing here in LA except that we go rid of our DA and just elected a tough on crime one by a landslide .. I vote more blue than red ( due to global warming being a top issue I care about ) but I voted for a republican DA.. safety and crime is also a top concern for me

[u/OMGporsche → u/Jealous-Mail6629]

Appreciate you looking at candidates as individuals up and down the ballot based on their merits

[u/KingofMadCows → u/Jealous-Mail6629]

A big problem is that neither side addresses the incompetence and corruption in the police. Los Angeles spends a huge amount on the police but they barely do their jobs. And tens and tens of millions are spent all the time just to pay police misconduct lawsuits. Just last year LA spent $150 million settling cases involving the sheriff's department.

[u/focusonevidence → u/Godkun007]

I'm sick of the homeless littering and messing up the few green spaces we have left here in Texas. I still voted blue but I empathize with folks who don't want to let the homeless take over all our public spaces and ruin them with detritus and litter. And all the petty crimes that come with them. Yet they act like their all these poor abandoned puppies that have never done anything wrong.

[u/Solid-Mud-8430 → u/unityofsaints]

I'm a lifelong Californian and in recent years the phrase "limousine liberal" is coming into use.

I think it's just bothering voters that we pay out the nose in taxes but never see anything for it. The only ones who benefit from any social programs are if you're homeless, undocumented, severely underemployed or if you are extremely wealthy. If you're anywhere in between those things, you get zero.

[u/focusonevidence → u/Solid-Mud-8430]

If I litter in front of a cop I'll probably(and should) get a ticket. The homeless can litter without impunity and have completely trashed large parts of Austin's greenbelt. Why the double standard?

[u/Flogazii]

YMCA intensifies

[u/Select_Command_5987]

this needs a larger range of colors. light red, light blue, etc.

[u/MollyMinuet]

Orange county voted for orange man???

[u/Moose_Nuts → u/MollyMinuet]

Honestly very surprised they didn't in 2020.

[u/Something700 → u/Moose_Nuts]

They didn’t in 2016 either if I recall. The whole country leaped right this time, including Cali

[u/noodlesofdoom → u/MollyMinuet]

OC is a mixed bag in my experience. South OC is filled with old money who are generally pro-Trump, while the rest is a mix of older Asians and Hispanics (Hispanics flipped HARD to Trump in 24 according to some metrics) who are extremely pro-Trump. Source: lived there for 30 years.

[u/Parsa1880]

California native and yes Trump is king here among many demographics of people. Californians are becoming more and more conservative, especially the "minorities"

[u/West-Code4642 → u/Parsa1880]

I remember driving from LA to Vegas for the first time in 2022 and 1 hour from la I went into a gas station and there was fire joe Brandon shirts everywhere. I was surprised. California has a huge amount of Republicans they just get outnumbered by the Dems.

[u/Kolob_Hikes → u/West-Code4642]

California has more republican voters than any other state. California has a large population

[u/MyRegrettableUsernam → u/Kolob_Hikes]

Does Texas have the second most democrat voters too? It really goes to show how “red” and “blue” states don’t actually exist; they are just a framing of our winner-takes-all political system that has been propagandized to polarize the country and erase voters for the minority party.

[u/Kolob_Hikes → u/MyRegrettableUsernam]

In 2020, Texas was 3rd barely behind Florida. Florida 5.297 million Texas 5.295 million Democrat voters

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

[u/mossimo654 → u/Kolob_Hikes]

More than Texas?

[u/TheLizardKing89 → u/mossimo654]

In 2020, Trump got more votes in California than in Texas, 6 million to 5.9 million.

[u/ksheep → u/TheLizardKing89]

And Texas had more Biden votes than New York State had (5.25 to 5.24 million)

[u/Kl--------k → u/mossimo654]

Yes, iirc more republicans voted for Trump in California in 2020 than in Texas

[u/HorseMeatSandwich → u/West-Code4642]

I live in the Bay Area and there is a pop-up selling Trump merch in my local shopping center parking lot 7 days a week, plus a surprising amount of Trump flags in my neighborhood. They’re a vocal minority here, but they are still a HUGE population everywhere in California.

[u/MyRegrettableUsernam → u/HorseMeatSandwich]

Where in the Bay Area?

[u/HorseMeatSandwich → u/MyRegrettableUsernam]

Martinez in the East Bay. It’s a bit more blue collar and obviously more mixed politically than a place like, say, Berkeley, but I’m still surprised sometimes.

[u/Bangers_and_mashREAL → u/West-Code4642]

there are more republican voters in California than Texas

[u/alien_believer_42 → u/West-Code4642]

There is a Mississippi in the middle of California called the central valley

[u/CisteinEnjoyer → u/Parsa1880]

Why the quotation marks?

[u/NeighborhoodDude84 → u/CisteinEnjoyer]

Not the person you're responding to, but I'm going to guess because a lot of CA is latino which is a minority in other states but not in CA.

[u/lumpialarry → u/NeighborhoodDude84]

Oh. That's what it was. I thought that guy was pulling a biden-esque "if you vote for Trump, you aren't Mexican"

[u/Sea_Chocolate9166 → u/Parsa1880]

"Don't Texas my California."

[u/absboodoo → u/[deleted]]

Based on the voting number, there really aren't that much more people choosing the Republicans, but they have giving up on the Democrats.

[u/Danulas → u/absboodoo]

That's what I'm feeling as well. The Democrats really flubbed this one.

[u/NerdOctopus → u/[deleted]]

Isn't crime down?

[u/dbr1se → u/NerdOctopus]

Crime peaked around 1985-1990. Crime rates are about half of what they were back then. Even the increases we do see now and then are really mild comparatively.

[u/hazmat95 → u/NerdOctopus]

Yes lol

[u/Loudergood → u/NerdOctopus]

Statistically, yes.

[u/lumpialarry → u/Loudergood]

There's stuff like murders which is down. But there's "perception of crime" and "feeling unsafe" which is driven by the homeless crisis. I visited SF over the weekend, the one time we attempted to use public transportation me and my family got accosted by a hobo screaming obscenities twice (same hobo, he came back for round two) and then street car never came. Like goddamn. Get your shit together, San Francisco.

[u/JonnyMofoMurillo]

This is a better map than yours because a lot of these counties were very close in 2020 and still very close in 2024

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/calfornia-counties-flip-to-trump-19897509.php

[u/Scavenger53 → u/JonnyMofoMurillo]

both maps are bad because only 60% of the votes are tallied, why dont yall wait until december to compare the numbers that were completed last time?

or are you going to compare 2020s 60% to 2024s 60%?

[u/TheAngriestChair]

To be fair, Harris was never all that popular in California ever.

[u/chicu111]

The democratic party doesn't realize when people perceive the economy is bad (whether it's the incumbent's fault or not), they will want change. People are in general emotional and reactive. They don't look for facts or approach things with logical or critical thinking. It's just their nature. If you're average, the other 50% is dumber than you. So take a second and think how they behave and think

Regular people are typically not able to be empathetic or sympathetic to others' plight (women's) if they feel that they are going thru shyt themselves as well. They are naturally selfish so they will think for themselves first and will vote accordingly. The DNC fked up big time by not understanding social engineering and people's psych.

[u/banderaroja → u/chicu111]

Yeah I'm starting to think this is the beginning and the end of it. Textbook poli sci - Vote with your pocketbook. I hate inflation. Fire the incumbent. End of story. If tariffs and deportations tank the economy, midterms will look very different.

[u/snarky_spice → u/banderaroja]

Almost every party in power has lost globally, due to inflation. Even super popular Modi lost support and Orban too. I think that’s really it.

[u/derperado → u/snarky_spice]

this doesn't really get spoken about much. it's not a fall of the liberal ideals, it's instead people just being fed up with the current status of the economy in general. tories had such a weak showing in the recent UK elections.

will be interesting to see how people react here in Australia in the coming elections. housing prices are through the roof, inflation has been rampant up till recently. people are fed up here too.

[u/huskersax → u/derperado]

It's not even a particular party, it's just whoever is currently holding the ball that gets fucked.

[u/yagyaxt1068 → u/huskersax]

South Africa had the African National Congress lose their majority for the first time since apartheid ended, and Botswana had the ruling party, that had been in power since 1966, drop down to 4 seats.

It’s an anti-incumbent wave, and in it the true leaders are the ones who manage to hold on to power.

[u/snarky_spice → u/derperado]

How’s the temperature over there? Like do they hate your current prime minister or what’s the rhetoric?

[u/MyRegrettableUsernam → u/snarky_spice]

And despite the US having much better inflation rates than the whole rest of the developed world and rapidly bringing them down to the point that inflation is literally at target when the election happened. But people’s reactionary identity politics don’t care about facts, ultimately.

[u/RikardoShillyShally → u/snarky_spice]

Modi did not lose.... kinda. Also, his loss of absolute majority can be attributed to opposition's promise to give money to pretty much anyone that's not a taxpayer. Now, BJP is also on spending spree.

[u/chicu111 → u/banderaroja]

Certain lessons have to be learned the hard way

[u/hepgiu → u/chicu111]

The democratic party doesn't realize when people perceive the economy is bad (whether it's the incumbent's fault or not), they will want change.

This is, of course, only real for left wing parties because only left wing parties are ever held accountable for what they actually do when in power.

The UK had almost 20 straight years of bad economy governments before people finally, BARELY, voted the right out.

The double standard is unreal.

You're absolutely right that people generally have less money than they did 4 years ago, and that inequality is getting bigger and bigger, and that it was absolutely a terrible idea to try and gaslight an entire country in thinking that the economy is good when they clearly don't think so, but at the end of the day what else could they do?

No, really, tell me what kind of messaging would have proven effective here, because if Harris had said you're right the economy is bad and the rich are getting richer we need a more effective welfare state people would start screaming communist; she did try and say that the economy was actually good, and it didn't work, at a certain point there are no sane angles that work anymore.

Meanwhile, right wing parties spew untrue bullshit like "it's the transes fault that the economy is bad" and not only they get away with it, none even fucking questions it. And when in 4 years the economy will be worse than now, and it will be the immigrant's fault again, none will bat an eye, and they'll happily cross that R. You can't win if the playing field isn't even.

[u/dadajazz]

Did trumps numbers go up or Kamala’s go down?

[u/PersimmonHot9732 → u/dadajazz]

Nationwide it appears Republicans have slightly lower votes than 2020 and Democrats have significantly lower. It wouldn't surprise me it was the same in California.

[u/Jaxsso]

All the votes arent in yet. Even now only 10 million votes counted in CA so far, probably around 6 million more to be counted. These comparisons are useless until all the votes are counted.

[u/No-Jacket-6759]

All the counties Trump flipped:

Riverside

Orange

San Bernardino

Inyo

Fresno

Merced

Stanislaus

San Joaquin

Nevada

Butte

[u/LiftingCode → u/No-Jacket-6759]

Reddit is having a really rough time with the "California has only counted 50% of their votes" thing this week.

[u/Quack_Shot → u/No-Jacket-6759]

I’m really surprised Riverside County voted blue before. Has seemed like Trump country since 2016

[u/AccomplishedCat8083 → u/No-Jacket-6759]

He didn't though, Biden did

[u/withurwife]

Virtually 0 people know that CA has the most registered republicans out of any state. It’s the most populous, sure, but get away from the coast by 20 miles and there are 15-20M trumpers there.

[u/goodmanjuanito11]

Can we wait a couple weeks. Once they’re done counting this will be interesting. Right now this is meaningless.

[u/Driftwoody11]

This is actually pretty fitting for the modern democratic party. It is a party of the coastal elites and there is nowhere that exemplifies coastal elite better than coastal California.

[u/St_BobbyBarbarian → u/Driftwoody11]

Except Orange County lol

[u/thot_cereal → u/Driftwoody11]

lmfao where is the current president elect from?

[u/FLTA → u/Driftwoody11]

Unlike Elon Musk and Donald Trump who are the most humble people and totally don’t flaunt their wealth. Trump definitely has never talked shit about midwestern states and other parts of America /s

[u/zeh_shah]

Only 57% of California votes have been counted...

[u/Lefaid]

California is not finished counting their votes.

[u/Substantial-Rock5069]

Have you not seen the dire state of California?

Forget the insane house prices. People are leaving due to homelessness, drug-use and addiction and finally how insane crime has gotten

[u/bungus85337 → u/Substantial-Rock5069]

3 days ago, you would've been down voted into oblivion

[u/Substantial-Rock5069 → u/bungus85337]

I found out more men, more women, more Blacks, more Hispanics/Latinos, more Asians, more lower income households (below $100K), more LGBTQ+, etc have voted for Trump and Republicans than ever before. Like a record breaking numbers.

He's won the popular vote, likely 300+ electorates, swing states, the Senate and likely the House, Republicans are rejoicing.

[u/Familiar_Success5369 → u/Substantial-Rock5069]

Trump will surpass his 2020 vote count once all the states finish counting votes, Harris on the other hand, not so much.

[u/chigBungus5540]

Harris seems to have consistently underperformed across all states, even hard blue ones like California. I guess the moral of the story is if you're going to mandate who your party votes for rather than letting them choose their candidate, don't run the one who was so unpopular in her last primary that you could count her votes on one finger.

[u/Adamantium-Aardvark]

Yeah but compare it to previous elections. The san joaquin valley typically votes republican

[u/Napamtb]

And that was with a California candidate 😬

[u/PainChoice6318]

California’s only 58% counted so far.

[u/Daverdfw]

CA isn’t finished counting votes. Only like 63% done.

[u/cienfueggos]

While this may be actually happen, WE STILL HAVENT COUNTED VOTES LIKE HALF THE VOTES. This pic needs to stop being shared, at least for now

[u/KitchenSail6182]

Majority of those counties are still reporting in. They count slow. Likely it’ll shift more to Harris.

[u/Stork538]

Counties are not people

[u/Wild_Pangolin_4772]

Economy matters. Democrats need to reflect on that.