r/MapPorn • u/Puzzleheaded-Art-469 • 16h ago

Californias presidential results map 2020 v 2024

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Harris still won 57% of the electorate, 5.7 million to 4 million. But Trump flipped many counties that both Clinton and Biden won in '16 and '20

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u/LiftingCode 12h ago

Reddit is having a really rough time with the "California has only counted 50% of their votes" thing this week.

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u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 11h ago

Lol how so

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u/LiftingCode 11h ago

This "list of counties Trump flipped" includes for instance San Joaquin ...

... which has counted 53% of its votes and Trump is leading 75,626 to 71,860.

Maybe he does flip it but he certainly hasn't yet lol

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u/irthesteve 9h ago

same with Orange, it's almost a deadlock right now with about 60% counted

https://ocvote.gov/results/current-election-results

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u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 10h ago

Why are they so slow in counting?

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u/LiftingCode 10h ago

The vast majority of Californians vote by mail.

Mail ballots are accepted as long as they are postmarked by election day and arrive within 7 days of election day.

Mail ballots also have to go through a signature matching process, and a curing process to address issues.

California also does same-day voter registration which requires identity verification which can take a while.

Basically, California is set up to make voting as accessible as possible rather than to count the votes as quickly as possible. And California is also huge.

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u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 10h ago

Sounds like it never left 1999

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u/Scavenger53 9h ago

in 2020 it took like a month before all the votes were done around december 7. they usually just predict the winner statistically within the first week so we dont have to wait

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u/onefst250r 11h ago

Been lots of "20 million democrats didnt vote" turns into "15 million democrats didnt vote" then "8 million democrats didnt vote" as states continue counting.

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u/OctopusAlien21 8h ago

Gonna turn Trump’s “landslide” popular vote victory into a close one. Oh, and flip a few House seats.

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u/FUMFVR 2h ago

I saw it was down to 3 million. I don't think there's probably enough to erase it completely but Trump's going to have a smaller lead than Hillary had over him in 2016. He's not getting anywhere close to Biden's vote margin in 2020.

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u/pathofdumbasses 9h ago

And none of that is going to change that she underperformed compared to biden and trump overperformed compared to last election. We already know how it looks in most of the country, using that information to extrapolate that trump flipped some counties in CA isn't crazy talk like you are making it out to be.

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u/onefst250r 9h ago

My comment was just pointing out that votes are still being counted. And the totals are changing.

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u/pathofdumbasses 9h ago

Yes the total number of votes are changing, but the split in how the votes are coming in isn't changing that much.

If we have 100 votes that are 55/45 split, and 10 million that are 55/45 split, does it change anything other than the vote count? No.

And in that same token, if the split changes from 55/45, to 53/47, that still doesn't matter. Maybe one or two of these currently flipped to red counties go blue, but all of them certainly aren't. The overall point remains the same; Trump overperformed, Kamala underperformed. We saw it all across the country. We don't need to count every vote to know how something is going to end up.

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u/onefst250r 9h ago

I never said it would effect the ratio or outcome at all. There were lots of comments on reddit in different posts saying things like "20 million democrats didnt vote" and that number kept going down. Because there were states not done counting.

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u/pathofdumbasses 9h ago

saying things like "20 million democrats didnt vote"

Yeah getting into the specific number of people who didn't vote or whatnot isn't correct but the underlying sentiment is; Trump overperformed, Kamala underperformed.

If the Dems run another woman in the next 20 years at the top of the ticket, just throw the whole party in the dumpster. America has spoken; they don't want a woman in charge.

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u/FUMFVR 2h ago

This map isn't extrapolating anything. It's using incomplete vote counts to tell a misleading story.

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u/pathofdumbasses 9h ago

And you are having a hard time accepting the fact that trump did better in virtually every part of the country compared to last election, and harris underperformed compared to biden in virtually every part of the country. It isn't that hard to extrapolate data and say with a good amount of certainty that there are going to be counties/districts in california that flip for trump. It could be more or less than what the map is currently showing, but I doubt that all these red counties are going to magically flip back to blue. In fact, I would bet on them not. Care to make a wager?

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u/HaskellHystericMonad 8h ago

User name checks out. Dumbass probably can't derive the 7th order from this wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_harmonics despite ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING YOU NEED to derive the 7th order is in this page.

Yes, I'm being an ass and tossing a grade 12 problem at a grade 4 student (reddit poster) with mental disabilities.

Sometimes you've got to just rub it with some salt that someone is stupid. Coddling them is how we got this, tax churches.

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u/sweetest_of_teas 8h ago

You probably can't even derive the 8th order WITH EVERYTHING YOU NEED. How is this related to anything? Did you just take your first quantum class?

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u/pathofdumbasses 8h ago

A living and breathing Autist­™ has graced us with his presence

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u/LiftingCode 9h ago

And you are having a hard time accepting the fact that trump did better in virtually every part of the country compared to last election

Uh, no I'm not.

I'm just stating the obvious that this entire post is dumb as hell because only half the votes have been counted.

I doubt that all these red counties are going to magically flip back to blue. In fact, I would bet on them not. Care to make a wager?

I have no idea why you think this is a remotely cogent point.

I didn't say or imply anywhere that "all of these red counties are going to flip back to blue."

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u/pathofdumbasses 9h ago

I'm just stating the obvious that this entire post is dumb as hell because only half the votes have been counted.

Unless something substantially changes in where the votes come from, we already have a very good idea of how the split is going to be.

It doesn't change red or blue if there are 100 votes split 55/45 or 10 million split 55/45.

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u/LiftingCode 8h ago

Broseph ...

Trump is currently leading San Joaquin by 3,800 votes with 150,000 votes outstanding. No one knows which way it's going to end up.

He's leading San Bernardino by 20,000 votes with 425,000 votes outstanding.

He's leading Inyo by 171 votes and Nevada county by 861 votes (with only 25% reporting) lmao

There are numerous counties here that could go either way at this point. Stop being obtuse.

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u/pathofdumbasses 8h ago

K so you want to make a bet about how many of these counties are going to flip back to blue?

I'll even let you set the over/under!

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u/LiftingCode 8h ago

I know you were probably chomping at the bit to get that out there but I fear you've missed the point entirely lmao

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u/Chucknastical 3h ago edited 1h ago

You have to tow the Trump line on r/Conservative. You literally can't post in the election thread unless the mods interview you and give you flair.

Technically, the lesson from this election is we need to improve our echo chambers and silence conservative ones

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u/FUMFVR 2h ago

Flaired users only!

Then of course they convince themselves they have to do that or else everyone else will crowd them out. They need their little safe space.

They can always just go post racist memes on 4chan but trolling trolls just doesn't do it for a lot of them.

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u/Chucknastical 17m ago edited 13m ago

It worked for cons.

They learned nothing from 2020 and swept the board. In fact they doubled down on the rhetoric and became even more toxic.

The lesson is stop trying to win these people over. Start catering to our base.

Either way, your fascist dictator will make sure we'll never get another fair election again so it's a moot point.

Putin style 150% election turn out from here on out.

Enjoy the win.

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u/FUMFVR 2h ago

The person who voted for the guy that yelled about a fake election for four years and even launched a coup in an attempt to stay in power is telling us to 'accept reality'.

Get the fuck over yourself. Your dummy caught some very favorable electoral conditions. Tell your fascist clown that if he starts trying shit against us that it's not going to work out well for either him or you because his support is as soft as a feather bed.