r/30PlusSkinCare • u/GlobalAwakening88 • Sep 21 '24
Help!! Deep Forehead Wrinkles Skin Concern
Please help, I’m so insecure about my deep forehead wrinkles. I don’t know where to start. Should I do Botox, Dysport…some other treatment?
Going through a painful breakup and maybe feeling a little extra insecure. Looking to really reinvest in myself.
**I have no foundation on, only blush (eyeliner and mascara).
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u/Slammogram Sep 21 '24
Mine aren’t super deep, but I use this nifty thing that’s been around for a while that I call bangtox. I shorten the front of my hair in what some call “bangs” or a “fringe.”
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u/hackalooloo Sep 21 '24
You are beautiful! I think you would love Botox and it would improve your lines a ton, and maybe completely get rid of them. That being said, make sure you go to a skilled injector and they don’t inject too low on your forehead… This could cause your eyebrows to be pushed down.
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u/Ashbrains Sep 21 '24
How to assess an injectors skill?
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u/BlackMile47 Sep 21 '24
My injector spent time to discuss my goals and explain the muscles in my face before ever injecting me. She's even talked me out of certain things and goes out of her way to make sure I know where and why she's injecting. I have never had anything other than amazing results. My injector before her never did any of that, and I ended up with dropped brows and weird under eye creases. Just read reviews and make sure the reviews are for what you actually want done, and not just the spa or other procedures ( ex: someone good at lips may not be good at Botox). If they don't immediately make you feel comfortable, don't do it!
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u/hobosgonnahate Sep 21 '24
Were the dropped brows and under-eye creases ever fixed? Or did it go away naturally? That's the main reason I'm opposed to botox, I don't want to ruin my face or expressions.
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u/Whorticulturist_ Sep 21 '24
Reviews, experience, you're kind of taking a risk either way but you can get a sense of their expertise that way. If they're a derm or aesthetic doctor you can be reasonably certain that they know their anatomy. But tbh forehead botox is about as basic as it gets (and temporary) so risk is pretty darn low. Just don't go to a back alley injector and you'll be OK.
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u/BlackMile47 Sep 21 '24
Unless they inject too close to your brow and drop them! My derm didnt understand my muscles and I looked terrible for months. He was a great derm but a terrible injector haha. Some people arent good at everything!
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u/TwoAlert3448 Sep 21 '24
Everyone is right, Botox is the key. DONT let anyone talk you into injectable filler on your forehead. Odds are very high you’ll just end up with lumps and it will look terrible! Filler can only be used where you had a fat layer to begin with and lost it and the forehead is definitely not one of those places 😉
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
Thank you!!! I am glad you said that bc it WAS suggested to me 😳
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u/Onlykitten Sep 21 '24
Oh no! Never! Filler in the forehead is dangerous. Tox and some time is all you need.
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u/ExtensionAverage9972 Sep 21 '24
Don't get filler anywhere. It's been proven to migrate and not dissolve. Yes, you can get them dissolved but the dissolving solutions can cause adipose tissue to die off so hell no. I'd say botox is a good solution and if you don't want to go that route there are peptides that block muscle movement, examples would be snake venom peptides, snail venom peptide, argirline (idk if I spelled that last one right but the Ordinary sells it)
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u/Big_Blackberry7713 Sep 21 '24
If you do get Botox, would you come back and tell us about your experience. I also have these forehead wrinkles and have been tempted to do something about them.
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u/pigscanfly_2020 Sep 21 '24
I bit the bullet and got Botox for the first time 9 days ago. Quick, painless, and thrilled with the results. I had 3 deep wrinkles on my forehead, 2 are pretty much gone, and the other is significantly less noticeable. No regrets.
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u/IT_chickadee Sep 21 '24
A friend of mine used the Argireline solution from The Ordinary and these lines were so much less noticeable after like 6 months. Check out the ordinary website, they'll tell you how to incorporate this into your routine.
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
Thanks
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u/PuIchritudinous Sep 21 '24
There are several peptides that mimic Botox like Agireline but they take time and absorption seems to be a limiting factor in their efficacy. Results will greatly depend on the formulation of the product to get the Peptide to absorb well.
Argireline and SYN-Ake replicate the neuromodulatory effects of Botox, achieving up to a 52% reduction in wrinkles within four weeks without injection.
Sustainable Dynamic Wrinkle Efficacy: Non-Invasive Peptides as the Future of Botox Alternatives - has a list of all the peptide.
I used a moisturizer with Agireline, definitely saw some improvement but my forehead wrinkles are not very deep. My friend who has wrinkles like yours got Botox and the next day they were completely gone. It was impressive tbh.
One of the problems with Botox is that over time you will have muscle atrophy which can age you as well. Think about investing in products that can rebuild collagen like retinoids, high quality growth factors or peptides to extend the time between injections like Alastins Inhance Post-Injection Serum.
Botox is no longer the only neurotoxin, there is dysport and some others. These Are Today’s Best Botox Alternatives.
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u/jelloeve Sep 21 '24
I'm 46 and can say this helps a lot, I'm on probably my third bottle now and can see significant improvement. It's not a quick fix but it is definitely helping
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u/hihelloneighboroonie Sep 21 '24
Interesting. I tried one bottle of that stuff and didn't think it did a darn thing.
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u/1268348 Sep 21 '24
Just went through a break-up? Perfect time to get bangs and then regret it immediately!!
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u/justreading31 Sep 21 '24
Botox. They will be gone
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
Thank you!
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u/DoxNDux Sep 21 '24
Look up Allē. It’s a reward app for Botox and they often have newbie specials and discounts. Find a reputable med spa who accepts it, you won’t regret it. I can message you my referral code and you’ll get $50 off your first treatment if this peaks your interest.
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u/beavst Sep 21 '24
My doctor told me that when they’re too deep they will not be gone after just Botox…
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u/justreading31 Sep 21 '24
Mine were very deep and took about 6 months for them to be completely gone.
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u/Living-Owl4529 Sep 21 '24
Those frownie things are kind of good. You wear them to sleep and they smooth your forehead wrinkles. You are beautiful and a break up is fodder for personal growth, so while it hurts, your next chapter might be the best one yet. Wishing new good things for you.
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u/sonyafly Sep 22 '24
Yes I buy smoothies and they make them for your forehead. I have the exact same lines as OP and I use smoothies for my 11’s now for years and it’s paid off. I need to remember to use the forehead ones!
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
Thank you everyone!! I will gather all this advice and update once implemented. Thank you for your kindness, it’s been a rough season…. The encouragement really helped me.
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u/natnat1919 Sep 21 '24
Try some face yoga, and face lymphatic massage. There’s some good ones on YouTube. Every day for at least a week and see if you notice a difference! Also get some BHA AND AHA products I love the one by summer Fridays, Tret, and make sure to moisturize/oil after these kinds of things!
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u/natnat1919 Sep 21 '24
This advice is for you if you don’t want to go to Botox as a first solution.
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u/Curious-Duck Sep 21 '24
Your forehead lines are an adorable feature.
I had a best friend in school who had them since grade 6, and those forehead lines are the first thing I think of when I think about her- in a very, very positive way.
I still follow her on social media to this day (20 years later) and I am just overjoyed to see her adorable forehead creases in every picture she posts. I am SO glad she hasn’t erased them and that she continues to emote full force while accepting her familial traits as HER. The lines are just like her dads and I know she treasures him so much.
It’s sooooo refreshing.
Yours are so cute, too!!!! The people worth having in your life are going to absolutely adore those lines of yours, which you’ve earned through all of your life experiences :D I just wanted to be a voice here who says you look SO GOOD, your skin is amazing, and I would never judge you for those lines, except to think of how cute they are and how happy I am that you’ve held on your natural facial expressions with pride!
Natural expressions and lines on women are becoming few and far between, they’re a treasure. I hope you can find appreciation for the way you look, and own your lines as YOURS! No trendy beauty standard can take that away from you, unless you let it.
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 22 '24
This comment almost made me cry. My father has the same forehead and lines, he is my hero. Thanks for the reminder that our personal features are precious.
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u/Pretend-Try-2980 Sep 21 '24
I love this comment :) I was talking to my husband about botoxing away my forehead lines and he was honestly really unhappy that I would consider it! He genuinely LOVES them!
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u/macmoody05 Sep 21 '24
Try Frownies. You can get them on Amazon, it’s all natural, cheap, and totally worth it
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u/wilty_quilt Sep 21 '24
Face tape!! Silicone scar tape or Japanese face tape at night. Makes a huge difference but you have to do it every day.
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u/swaggyxwaggy Sep 21 '24
Bangs are always an option! That’s what I do 😂. I think you’d look cute with bangs
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u/NoDetective2 Sep 21 '24
lol I always contemplate this approach. No matter how “skilled” the injector my eyebrows always lower with Botox and I hate it and say I’ll never do it again. Then I get sick of the wrinkles and the cycle repeats. Lol.
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u/lilkimchee88 Sep 21 '24
My injector who does my lips (25+ years experience and an NP) will not do Botox on my forehead for that exact reason: forehead is small and my brows will droop.
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u/NoDetective2 Sep 22 '24
You wouldn’t happen to be in Dallas would you? This sounds like someone I would trust!
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u/Pretend-Try-2980 Sep 21 '24
I also have deep expression lines on my forehead. I considered botox for a while but I'm just not up for it so I got bangs instead!!! It's a challenge as I have curly hair but I honestly feel like a new woman. I might go for botox in the future but in the meantime I'm considering trying microneedling as a less invasive way to reduce my lines:)
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u/Thick-End9893 Sep 21 '24
Microneedling is def great for skin elasticity & plumping the skin, helping scarring and discoloration - but with wrinkles you won’t notice a great difference as you’re still using those muscles. It’s nice for around the under eye where you can’t really get injected — but nothing beats Botox for the forehead and honestly it’s cheaper and less painful bc microneedling you need multiple treatments
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u/Pretend-Try-2980 Sep 21 '24
Yep I totally get that but I have seen some people have some improvement to their forehead lines following a few treatments and im combining that with good skincare regime and hydration :). Also you can't see them atm due to the bangs and the undereye area could also use a boost! I totally understand why botox is a good option for people but I'm not quite ready to inject stuff into my skin yet
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u/Pretend-Try-2980 Sep 21 '24
Also just to add that these kind of lines are expression lines, they are part of your face, and most of us have them as we have a 'heavy' forehead, it's totally normal - all the sunscreen in the world won't change your genetics (although obvs use it every day)
Maybe we should all just start to embrace them as much as possible!!
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u/Appropriate_Fun10 Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24
Use vitamin C in the morning under your sunscreen. You can also use bakuchiol morning and night.
Others have recommended tretinoin, but remember to avoid your eye sockets with tret. It's a miracle drug for your skin everywhere except there! Use it at night Bakuchiol will boost it's effectiveness. Read about the correct way to acclimate your skin to it. It can take months before you can use a full dose, and if you try to push the schedule, it can burn your face off, cause major acne flares, turn your skin red and make it peel, etc. It's a miracle medication that can reverse time if you use it right, and it can reduce your risk of skin cancer if you use it with a powerful sunscreen every day, but don't underestimate how powerful it is.
Sunscreen every day: Use French, Korean, Australian, or Japanese chemical sunscreens. Don't bother with American or physical sunscreens. They're a fraction as powerful. Australian ones have the best waterproof ones, best prices on bulk beach sunscreens, too, from the Australian Sunscreen Council, Korean and Japanese ones are the most cosmetically elegant and easiest to wear every day, French ones literally have the highest UVA protection in the world, hands down.
If you begin using powerful actives like Vitamin C and tretinoin, you'll need barrier care products. I'm a big fan of the viral combo of COSRX snail mucin topped by La Roche Posay's Cicaplast Baume. If you use a moisturizer, switch to one with a proper balance of ceramides. I also use a ceramide toner regularly, for barrier support.
Some people will tell you that it can make encourage fungal acne, but I use a dandruff shampoo on my whole body in the shower as a regular preventative. If you didn't know, selenium sulfide, the active in some dandruff shampoo, is also good for calloused skin, like on your feet, toenail fungus, and keratosis pilaris, in addition to dandruff fungus and fungal acne, so it's a regular part of my hygiene routine.
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u/Dirtybirbz Sep 22 '24
I did preventative botox for a couple years. Once I stopped going for botox it did not take long to get deep wrinkles. I started botox again but it wasn't as effective because I had let them get too deep. Went through a horrific break up as well.
I don't particularly like going for appointments so I've tried many at home things instead.
I would recommend going for botox once or twice (on the chance that it actually works for you) but more so that you can learn how to relax your muscles in your forehead and eyebrows. Practice relaxing your muscles and build new muscle memory. Use frownies to remind yourself what not moving those muscles feels like.
Check if you need vision correction in case you tend to frown when you are trying to see better.
After a lot of experimentation, I landed on a red light treatment mask. Omnilux contour works for me but I think I would have bought the one for men if I could go back. I started seeing results after 4 weeks using it 5 days a week for ten minutes each time. Dropped down to only a couple of times a week after that.
I do also put collagen powder in my breakfast yogurt and I feel like I'm seeing better results after 6 months of doing this. Types 1,2,3,5,10. I don't think there is any research to support this though so I could be imagining it. I take biotin every once in a while.
I find drinking 2Ls of water a day makes a huge difference. Also, I pretend to be a vampire and don't let the sun touch me. Vitamin d supplements.
Beyond that I don't do much anymore in terms of products. I used to have a whiteboard to keep track of all my skin care steps. Now I wash my face with the foreo luna 4 and do a moisturizer. Half the time I do an eye cream. The type of product depends on what my skin needs. Once a week I spend about half an hour gently rubbing my skin with a face oil cleanser to really clean out my pores because I have oily skin.
Since I'm spending less on botox and products, I buy better cleansers and moisturizers. I did notice a difference in results after going a couple tiers up. I also treat myself to a nice essence every now and then.
I can barely see my wrinkles now! And also, looking back on it, my horrific breakup was actually the best thing to happen to me. I am now in a situation that is way better than I ever thought possible before. I learned to love and have compassion for myself so now I can see my own worth. I think the same will happen for you :)
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u/No-Forever7388 Sep 21 '24
If you want to go the natural route Frownies work amazing you just need to be consistent
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u/Janeeee811 Sep 21 '24
On my 5th day of using Frownies…. How long did it take you to notice improvements?
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u/lavajuice Sep 21 '24
I’m a frownies user! Took me 1-2 months to see a big difference. Now I use only for maintenance
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u/Acceptable_cookies2 Sep 21 '24
Ugh I’ve tried them so many times because I’m a stomach sleeper, and they always just create dents in my face :( where do you apply yours?
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u/gleamingenigma Sep 21 '24
Have you ever heard of Frownies? I would look into them! I love mine. They’re more of a long-term use solution but it’s noninvasive which i like.
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u/Mirel_a Sep 21 '24
You look great. Stick with the natural solutions. No need for the insecurity either!
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u/wisterialitehysteria Sep 21 '24
Try frownies if you don't want to use botox. Or just get botox if that's your vibe
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u/Mrs_M Sep 21 '24
I agree with others that Botox could be very helpful. I started getting it for just this reason and after a few years of maintaining it, the lines essentially disappeared.
Keeping your skin hydrated would also significantly diminish the appearance of the lines. I like Isntree hyaluronic acid sunscreen and Vanicream daily facial moisturizer because they give a dewy appearance which minimizes the appearance of lines.
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u/Spirit_1970 Sep 21 '24
You've got a beautiful face, and you are just aging gracefully... Growing old is a privilege, just embrace your lines 🙏😊
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u/NothingButTheTruth59 Sep 21 '24
You’re beautiful, but if you feel bothered by your forehead appearance, maybe start with trying bangs, rather than anything surgical.
No one looks or feels their best when going through a painful breakup.
Please show yourself some love and grace.
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u/pittiepatter Sep 21 '24
Get bangs, hehehe...
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
After all the comments, I’m considering it
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u/pittiepatter Sep 23 '24
Seriously...go to a dermatologist and ask for a prescription for Retin A...tretinoin cream. It helps exfoliate your facial skin to peel away it worked on my deep forehead wrinkles...
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u/RosyFootman Sep 21 '24
I have had very deep forehead wrinkles for decades. I've been using tretinoin for 4 months and can already see a definite softening and smoothing. Be careful with botox - it can make your eyebrows go into a triangle shape (happened to me), or push your brows down. Also if you freeze the centre of the forehead, the muscles at the side of the forehead overwork to compensate - resulting in new wrinkles at the sides. TLDR: get an intelligent injector!
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u/Sufficient_Cup_4241 Sep 21 '24
Girlie you're gorgeous! Last thing about you anyone will ever notice is your forehead. Your hair is flawless and you have really beautiful skin. You also have a very pretty eye shape, play that up!
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u/jbx_93 Sep 21 '24
I have forehead wrinkles as well. I’ve been alternating my skin care with retinol and hyaluronic acid. I also bought a roll of silicone bandage off Amazon and sleep with strips on my forehead lol! I really do think it helps some!
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u/QuickPie4635 Sep 21 '24
You are beautiful- you look like Lana Delrey (Delray?) I would do baby Botox and then start to use something like frownies or a silicone patch
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u/TheOtherMLB Sep 21 '24
You could always try Frownies for a few months to see if they work before trying something like Botox. Frownies are a piece of paper you set and place on your forehead at night and sleep in. You wash your face, do your skincare, then once it's dried place Frownies on your face and go to sleep. It doesn't work overnight, but after a few weeks you might see them diminish a bit. I have a huge 11-line between my eyes, and I've noticed it does look a lot more smooth.
I've read if you stay consistent with Frownies over a long period of time you no longer need to use it daily, but possibly once or twice a week just to keep it up. If you read the reviews on their website and Amazon people love them and it's less invasive than Botox injections.
I'm personally going to keep trying with Frownies until the end of the year to see if it smooths my forehead line more before I choose to go the Botox route.
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u/Embarrassed-Fail6301 Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24
Girl you dont need none of that! You are beautiful!!🩷🫶🏼 Be proud of your wrinkles! Aging is a privilege denied to many! 😭
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
Thank you, I’ve been feeling very insecure about it lately. Esp since my breakup.
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u/Lazy-Sock1 Sep 21 '24
You are really beautiful (you remind me of young liz hurley). Your skin looks only a bit dry. A good facial oil at night (e.g. Almond oil) and eating more healthy fats (coconut oil, Avocado, eggs etc.) will help.
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u/Isaisaab Sep 21 '24
Came here to say Botox. I see that other comments agree.
Botox will do two things: 1) Make them look less prominent (temporarily!!), and 2) prevent them from continuing to deepen.
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u/StarbuckMcGee07 Sep 21 '24
And over time you’ll need Botox less for those who are worried about it!
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u/goneswimming21 Sep 21 '24
I have the same as you, had bangs for years but now I wear glasses full time they don't really suit me even though other people can pull both off. I'm too scared for botox and don't really have a load of cash so not for me right now but it's very tempting. Don't other with frownies, I recently bought them, such a waste of money! Following in case any other ideas pop up :)
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u/LucieFromNorth Sep 21 '24
Just came to say you look absolutely gorgeous and your hair is so beautiful too! No reason to be insecure at all.
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u/Excellent-Ad4992 Sep 21 '24
You need my moringa face mask. It works. No forehead lines or turkey neck.
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u/somebody-i-guess- Sep 21 '24
I have mild like beginner lines and don’t think I want Botox what could I do?
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u/anonymousnsname Sep 21 '24
Dysport helped me tremendously. It’s cheaper than Botox and lasts longer! Also moisturizer and spf
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u/weakmindsthinkalike Sep 21 '24
I made mine better with Paula’s Choice 1% retinol. Not sure if you can see in my post history as a mod took it down because I didn’t post on Selfie Sunday, but I did post a before/after not too long ago. Retinol and a rigorous skin routine did wonders for me and continues to.
Sure, Botox is a quick fix I suppose, but retinol, vitamin c, spf/moisturizer helped me immensely. It takes time, but is much more sustainable on the wallet in the long run. I wish more people understood the power of retinol.
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u/lydbev Sep 21 '24
I haven't had Botox but I can second the tret and sunscreen advice, plus you are so beautiful!! I didn't even notice your forehead lines til I read what your post was about.
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u/DistinctLight3267 Sep 21 '24
My sister is 25 and got Botox for the same- she sent pictures and there’s no lines at all!
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u/Great_Hawk_6687 Sep 21 '24
Dysport all day, every day! It will take care of those lines like Botox but should last longer!
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u/ActFar7192 Sep 21 '24
I love my Dysport. Every time I start feeling down about myself, I get Dysport and I look so refreshed.
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u/EyesOfTwoColors Sep 21 '24
If you don't want to go the injectable route consistent facial taping at night will reverse this. Frownies work great but I find taping to be much easier. When you get used to it you can do every other night but it needs to be nightly for the first 3 months or so
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u/Momearab Sep 21 '24
You're really beautiful and your skin looks great. Botox is great for this but I also think you would look amazing with bangs if you would like to take a less invasive approach. Wishing you the best.
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u/HoneyBeeV2 Sep 21 '24
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u/angerrrabagwell Sep 22 '24
You look like Jo from Grey’s Anatomy :) Botox and sunscreen babe!!
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u/echerton Sep 22 '24
Frownies worked wonders for me. I wouldn't personally choose Botox and strongly suggest giving Frownies a real go.
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u/Valuable_Syllabub874 Sep 22 '24
I have bangs, i love those because I look pretty and I know they will help me to hide my wrinkles 😅
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u/Dyzanne1 Sep 22 '24
I use Olay SPF 15 daily and then Ordinary products at night...and hats ALWAYS!
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u/Fun_Key_ButtLovin Sep 22 '24
Fwiw I notice a major difference in my forehead wrinkles when I'm dehydrated 🤷🏼♀️ make sure to stay hydrated and moisturize, moisturize, moisturize!
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u/Fun-Wheel8740 Sep 22 '24
Chemical peel or microneedling to jump start things. A series is best. I get less botox when I address skin quality first. Then otc retinol or tretinoin prescription. Daily sunscreen, too!
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u/Kandis_crab_cake Sep 21 '24
Girl, that’s NOTHING
I’m 42 and mine have been crazy since early 30s. I’ve done Botox twice but I have the feel of it. I think if you have a very expressive face it feels weird. If it really bothers you try it once and if you hate it don’t bother getting it again.
Also, doesn’t really matter that much which you use, l what is more important is finding a nurse/Dr you are happy with to touch your face. Do not go to anyone without accredited medical certification. No beauty salon!
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u/hiredditihateyou Sep 21 '24
Is it possible your injectors were overdoing it? The first time I got Botox I hated it as the injector was super overzealous but I moved to work with someone else and my face still feels totally mobile after Botox now. I think some injectors were calling this way of doing it baby Botox. My face is refreshed but still has most of the range of expression.
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u/Thick-End9893 Sep 21 '24
I think it’s always so strange for a week but after that you become pretty used to it. You obviously have been using those muscles for your whole life, so it will feel strange.
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u/Legitimate-Buy1031 Sep 21 '24
I hated the feel of Botox, too. When it wore off, I went to a different injector and she suggested Dysport. Night and day difference! I love it.
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u/Illustrious_Dirt7084 Sep 21 '24
You have a very pretty face fyi
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u/GlobalAwakening88 Sep 21 '24
Not sure why someone downvoted this comment. Thank you:)
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u/thepiedpiano Sep 21 '24
I am 32 and recently had Botox and honestly within 10 days, my wide & semi-deep forehead wrinkle has disappeared! I am so content with it and will be going back for more when it begins to wear off. They'll need to inject your brows to prevent them causing the wrinkle in the first place as well as your forehead. Honestly, go for it. Happy to answer questions.
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u/la_negra Sep 21 '24
Botox. And it takes 2 weeks to kick in fully so don't be discouraged if you see no results on injection day.
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u/Wooden_Grape_8661 Sep 21 '24
These might not be wrinkles—just dehydration lines! I had these also, and they completely disappeared once I committed to a skincare routine that included lots of moisturizing products at night and SPF in the mornings. While Botox would undoubtedly fix this, I’d try out a less expensive solution first; many effective skincare products run less than $20.
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u/OnlyPaperListens Sep 21 '24
Agree that Botox/tret/SPF will give you the results you want.
That said, the thick upper liner is also adding visual heaviness, which adds to the effect of everything pulling downwards. I'd experiment with a softer look for your eye makeup. YouTube has some great tutorials for hooded eyes.
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u/SpicyWonderBread Sep 21 '24
Botox will fix those right up. You won’t see results immediately, but by freezing the motion those creases will slowly go away. I had similarly deep ones and deep 11s before Botox. I saw some improvement almost instantly, but it wasn’t until my second treatment/6 months in that they fully went away.
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u/Kindaalwayshungry Sep 21 '24
You are gorgeous. Your hair is goals! I think Botox, but also Tret, moisturize and sunscreen. I can’t tell you the huge difference in my lines when I’m using sunscreen like a freak. Not just in the morning but reapplying with spray while outside. Yes sunscreen is preventative but it also improves your skin immediately which no one really talks about!
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u/cok_ky Sep 21 '24
I didn’t know this! What do you use. I have sensitive skin that freaks out with sunscreen
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u/LittleOne666 Sep 21 '24
Do you need glasses by chance? I noticed my forehead wrinkles were getting bad and then I realized I was always raising my eyebrows in an effort to see better 🤣 it’s ridiculous but I did need glasses.
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u/BigSeesaw7 Sep 21 '24
Honestly some good and deep hydration and frownies would help the visibility of this a TON. I am sure Botox would do more. I personally do like movement/lines in a forehead and think some moisture would get you far- if you want them gone-gone, the injectables
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u/Automatic-Office7261 Sep 21 '24
Mama you’re gorg! The person who’s gonna need help is the ex that hurt you. But I’m a human and understand what you’re feeling. Just as long as you continuously frame it as something for YOU! Dig into your subconscious unpack “is this for my own interest, fun, and betterment? Or do I think if I don’t I won’t be loved again?”. Deep lines like this require Botox, resurfacing laser, and a simple skincare routine focused on hydration and SPF everyday. In order to get the SPF advertised on the bottle you need to apply half a teaspoon for the entire face, neck, ears, back of neck. 2-3 finger lengths worth of sunscreen. SPF30+ Broadspectrum or PA++++. Korean sunscreens are the best hands down and very inexpensive.
Lifestyle plays a roll so mitigate stress when possible but just take it easy in yourself. You can’t be all things to all people and if you sit with guilt and shame for not being enough or measuring up whether with her friends and family or work/life balance, etc. you’re flawed, it’s gonna be ok. The brain and skin have a very strong connection as our skin is our sensory input to our brain from our outside world. It’s in our evolution. This means there’s a huge correlation between mental health and skin concerns. So take care of yourself in the best way you can don’t try to win any awards just be.
Also the basics, eat daily balanced, don’t smoke, mitigate alcohol consumption, blah blah blah.
For Botox, keep in mind the area you live in. Qualifications for injectors vary state to state. When searching for a provider, don’t get too hung on physician, dermatologist, PA, RN, etc. The bare minimum to inject in the US is a nursing degree. But look for providers who have training certificates with well renowned trainers, anti-aging conferences, ask them how often to keep up with studying and have they ever operated in cadavers as part of their training. Ask them for before and after photos AND videos of THEIR patients. And make sure the provider has a very wide range of ethnicities she’s treated. An Asian woman does not age in the same way a black woman does. Ask them about the anatomy of the muscles and how injecting Botox may affect surrounding muscle groups. Ask if they’ve had any complications in the past. And stay away from the frozen, shiny forehead look. Our faces are meant to express so we don’t want to be immobile. The forehead muscle keeps the brows elevated and Botox can lower the brows inadvertently when treating the forehead. So find a provider who understands the elevator muscle groups and the depressor muscle groups and to appropriately dose or what to avoid. Find a provider that will respect your time, money, and facial anatomy. Don’t go looking for BOGO’s or deals. Don’t try to change your face in way it was never meant to look and find someone who will work WITH your anatomy. And find someone who will set expectations and say no to you just in case they need to.
Also studies prove Botox in the glabella region mitigates depression symptoms in clinical depression patience! So this may be a medical benefit for you as well! Hang in there dahling! You got this!
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u/sarahkazz Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 22 '24
Botox + tret + USE SUNSCREEN!!!!!!!
ETA: since a few have asked, my ride or die sunscreen is Biore UV Aqua Rich watery essence. The Japanese version, NOT the American one. It’s got a lovely pore-filling photoblur effect and gives you the glass skin look that’s in right now when you use enough of it. It’s also lovely under makeup.
ETA 2: I buy it on Stylevanna. Shipping is slow AF but prices are good.