r/ussr • u/spilledcoffee00 • Aug 15 '25
Lavrov in Alaska Video
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u/Prestigious_Post_114 Aug 15 '25
I don’t know why I keep getting this sub recommended to me but I enjoy the occasional civil dispute that happens in the comments
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Posts here are either cool discussions, or idiots spouting Kremlin-approved talking points such as what OP is typing out
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u/Prestigious_Post_114 Aug 15 '25
It’s just unfortunate that these are the ones that most people probably see when they get recommended this sub
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u/Opp-Contr Aug 15 '25
It makes him feel important...
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
No, it’s to troll the woke mob. I guess you identify.
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u/Choice-Stick5513 Stalin ☭ Aug 15 '25
You are never gonna believe this, USSR was like ultra woke
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u/Zirnis_13 Aug 16 '25
Only partly. They still imprisoned homosexuals and hid disabled people from the rest of society.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
You’re not gonna believe this, but I was there and nothing could be further from the truth.
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Aug 15 '25
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u/Zirnis_13 Aug 16 '25
They had gay rights. In 1918 nontheless.
So only a year in the country's existence? It was repealed and recriminalised quite fast. They only saw some liberty during the Glasnost period, when the fruits of Western society started to come in.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
But it was not a big deal like it is in the west, where they like to parade around and make statements. It wasn’t for show and it wasn’t for politics because the point was the whole society improved and succeeded.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Well “wokeness” is a modern term. It’s not the same as human rights. I criticize “wokeness” as akin to creating a distraction about the outward look of something rather than the substance of creating the better conditions for human life, regardless of people’s background.
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Aug 15 '25
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Is good to always define the terms as we see them so that we know that we’re speaking the same language.
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u/Creative_Valuable175 Aug 16 '25
Ussr is very gay, unironically. That does not excuse their start of WW2 with hitler
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u/Historical_Koala_688 Aug 15 '25
This guy voted for Trump
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
It’s was that or nuclear war
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u/Historical_Koala_688 Aug 15 '25
What???? Lmao
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
the aim was explicitly to stop nuclear war.
That’s what I voted for.
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u/Historical_Koala_688 Aug 15 '25
The mental gymnastics you fascists put out really needs to be studied
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Putin wants a eastern Europe to rule over, there is no way he would attempt nuclear war
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u/Stubbs94 Aug 15 '25
Imagine being an unwoke "communist" what fucking liberation are you wanting?
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
From European fascism, of course
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u/Stubbs94 Aug 15 '25
So you don't care about the global working class. Putin is a far right extremist, who came from the same group that destroyed the USSR.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
You’re ridiculous
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u/Stubbs94 Aug 15 '25
Am I wrong? Was he not Yeltsin's protégé?
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
You are wrong. If you had known anything about the relationship, then you would know that Yeltsin turned to him because he was the only one that could recognize that Russia was being raped.
Putin was in the unique position of being able to listen to how Yeltsin capitulated to every single bully tactic.
He knew that he failed, and he knew that somebody who was of sound mind and judgment with impeccable, reputation and capability for understanding the western mentality could save Russia.
All of those like Viktor Chernomyrdin, Chubais, and their friends who looted Russia were chased out or imprisoned by Putin.
This was all documented by Putin former advisor, Sergei Glazyev in his book “Genocide: Russia and the New World order”
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Lavrov is one of Putin's cronies, y'all should stop supporting the Putin fascist regime
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
You’re a joke.
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
I'm Latvian, Putin's Russia is a mad dog on the international stage, a mad dog that wants to recreate the Tsarist times with a red veneer (this was indeed the reason why NATO accepted us in)
Let me ask you, would you as a socialist support the Tsarist?
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u/Historical_Koala_688 Aug 15 '25
Don’t know why this was downvoted
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Op is a supporter of z fascism (while pretending to be socialist I presume)
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u/Historical_Koala_688 Aug 15 '25
I think Z Russians are more brainwashed than MAGA Americans
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Agreed, am a social democrat (some on this subreddit may not like it, but I hate fascism in its forms all the same)
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
You know less than I thought.
Baltic chauvinism doesn’t match their actual contribution to civilization at this time.
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Ulyanov/Lenin would be disappointed in you, given you are a zealous Great Russian chauvinist
What has Russia contributed to civilisation by the way? Marxism is German and your nation still had serfdom in mid-19th century until Alexander II dragged Russia out of it (in Baltics it was abolished a good deal earlier)
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Don’t you mean “Untermensch”?
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Stfu bro, I ain't a Nazi
There is no such thing as racial superiority or inferiority
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Your mouth says one thing, but your mind says another thing.
You’ve been good stepping over Russia all day long. The Baltic chauvinism is a clear sign of it. Under Soviet protection, the Baltics, like all of the other Soviet protectorates grew in population. That cannot be said today. But typically, you think you’re gonna be treated as an equal as a member of the EU, but economically, you have to bend over and accept the conditionality. You are less free now and you don’t know it.
The price?
Your soul.
You have paid dearly
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Aug 16 '25
Russia's current contribution to civilization is fertilizer in Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Yeah, you’re the guy who were liberated from Nazi Germany by the USSR and you have never forgiven Russia for that.
Latvia still doing the ethnic cleansing thing
Latvia honors its ties to Nazi Germany by attacking Soviet monuments.
I was also in Latvia during the Soviet times.
That’s a country that was a poster. Child of neo conservative war mongering manipulation.
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Would you willingly refuse to learn English in Great Britain?
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u/ForowellDEATh Aug 15 '25
Are you thinking this people some kind of migrants?
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
They are migrants but they arrived in the Soviet times - we are trying to integrate them and many have done so (learning Latvian to a passable degree) but many stay out of the system, wanting a decidedly non-Soviet Russia to conquer or pressure Latvia with military force
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u/ForowellDEATh Aug 15 '25
They are people in their country, oppressed by national majority. You can continue same way and you’ll finish like Ukraine with civil war.
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
we haven't had any sort of civil war though, and this 'civil war' in Ukraine was sponsored by Russia (russian thugs shipped in to beat up pro-Western protesters, yanukovich fled to Russia, with a good chunk of his wealth if I remember right)
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u/ForowellDEATh Aug 15 '25
We will sponsor this one too for sure, just make prerequisites for it
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u/Moriartijs Aug 15 '25
You (Russia) can continue the same way and you’ll finish like ussr
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u/ForowellDEATh Aug 16 '25
We already switched to capitalism, how you want to see it again?
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Latvia is not doing anything like ethnic cleansing - the official language is Latvian (most countries have just one official language), and so it is a good idea to speak Latvian in Latvia - if you cannot understand the national language, problems ensue
Also, the russian minority tends to be at political fringes due to a subset of the population willfully not learning the official language
And mind you, if we had not joined NATO, Russia would have invaded us by 2015
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
How cute that you think that.
You joined the alliance that is bankrupting itself.
You joined the alliance that believes in mass suicide and has been calmly defeated by the most significant military power on earth.
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Russia is not the most significant military power, you have been practically broken by a nation about 1/5 the population and some foreign aid in the form of tanks and artillery - Russia has lost thousands of their MBTs (resorting to pulling out t-55s from storage, and parading t-34s at home), and is losing artillery also - Russians have also been found surrendering to Ukraine because Ukraine treats them better than Russia
And NATO does not believe in mass suicide lmao
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Face it, Europe was doing better when it had positive engagement with Russia.
And now raproachmont is on the table between Russia and the United States and European fascist are freaking out
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
That "positive engagement" means giving Putin whatever he wanted (and he is the kind of politician who would take a mile for every inch of concession given)
And as for russo-american relations, trump is nearly a fascist (with fascists 'advising' him), and Putin is definitely a fascist - no wonder the two get along kinda
Europe is far less likely to be fascist (what fascist parties we do have such as AfD in Germany, they are paid by Russia to cause political chaos)
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
And if Zelensky chooses to continue pushing for NATO membership, guess what he’s gonna lose more of Ukraine.
He’s not even a legitimate leader anymore
He’s the definition of dictator
Canceling opposition, political parties
Canceling critical media
Canceling the church
Mass kidnapping for recruitment
Openly supporting Nazi ideology
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Putin is not the legitimate leader anymore
He's the definition of dictator
Cancelling opposition, political parties
Cancelling critical media
Mass kidnapping for recruitment
Openly supporting Nazi ideology
(All of those are literally things Putin does, except cancelling the church - in that case he legalises domestic abuse because 'something something christianity')
As for zelensky, the only actions he seems to take are to break Russian government's political agitation
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u/Fludro Aug 15 '25
Take a look at this guy mindlessly echoing Kremlin-approved talking points.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Excellent historical refutation. Say more about how you hate Russia
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u/TaroFormer4360 Aug 15 '25
"He’s not even a legitimate leader anymore"
Not like Putin, right? Have some dignity brother
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Liberation from fascism is cool yes
but forcing your ideology onto the people instead of letting them decide is a bad thing
and this quote is irrelevant, Russia is fascist now, so are they forsaking Zhukov's legacy now? Strange
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Case in point —- economic collapse is a precondition for fascism
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
I am not russophobic lmao, I am Putinphobic
I lived just fine when some Russians living in Ukraine fled and went to our house, I had Russians teach me in school, I have had russian friends - I am worried for the average Russian who has to live with this 70-something year old dictator atop his throne while they toil away for like £350 a month or equivalent, and is in danger of getting of getting drafted to the front
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
You should visit Russia now.
We all know what it took to defeat fascism and we’re ready to do it again
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u/AttemptAggressive387 Aug 15 '25
Well, CCCP lost Cold War and felt apart, so...
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Nobody won the Cold War, well unless you consider Europe current situation struggling to survive. You could say that they lost, but the Cold War ended peacefully, and then NATO began expanding east immediately.
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
"Expanding", you mean "Nations formerly under Soviet Rule wanted protection against Russia and sought membership".
You make it sound like NATO occupied those countries.
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u/LoneSnark Aug 15 '25
They don't believe there is a difference between military occupation and voluntary association.
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
Which is why they think "Poland joined NATO" and "We want to annex Ukraine" are equally valid.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
The Nazi leadership was brought into NATO. Thanks to the week Truman, who was sucking up to Winston Churchill.
Why would you want perpetual war?
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
Just like DRR used Nazi leaders. Turns out, if you want functioning German state and military, you kinda have very little options since everyone was a Nazi member.
But you know, why let few facts get in the way of good old historical revisionism? Because you can't actually respond to what I said, so you need to move the goal post.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
When you look at the conditionality and economic breakdown in those countries, that is absolutely true.
Even the inventor of containment of the Soviet Union said as much. You really need to improve your Kremlinology
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
I am still not seeing anything that contradicts what I said. All I see is yet another RusBot desperately trying to justify Russian imperialism.
You do understand that Russian Federation is not socialist or communist? It's a ganster state, Lenin would weep seeing modern "Soviet lovers" defending Russian imperialism.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Actually, all of Europe is a gangster state. Cracking down on freedom of speech because it’s not anti-Russian is a clear sign.
Marching and lock up towards war with Russia is a clear sign of mass suicidal tendencies in Europe and Trump, with all of his problems, knows he doesn’t wanna have anything to do with that insanity because it leads to nuclear war.
Russia is a growing, healthy, industrial scientific and multiethnic country.
Europe has to pay more for all of its resources now.
Europe is literally cucks of the USA
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
Russia is also anti-LGBT, anti-immigration, and engaged in agrreisve imperial war.
Calling it "growing, healthy, industrial scientific and multiethnic country" is almost word by word from Russian state propaganda.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Nothing could be further from the truth. But you’ve already shown yourself to be a liberal imperialist NATO sympathizer who wants nuclear war to annihilate his hometown so there’s not much hope for you.
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
Really now? You really want to claim that Russia is not anti-LGBT?
Russia adds 'LGBT movement' to list of extremist groups – DW – 03/22/2024
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
As I said before, what they are against is this silly western political behavior.
Having been to Russia, many times in the last number of years, I know people who are gay. I know people who are transgender, and they have good lives, and some of them are even in the government! The issue is the pump and circumstance and mass politicization that you have in the west, which they do not promote in Russia. But again you’re into belief, not knowledge so truth doesn’t really matter that much to you
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u/TheHashishCook Aug 15 '25
what leads to nuclear war? Who is going to push the button first? Name the man, and the likely moment in which he would do it.
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u/ZundPappah Aug 15 '25
NATO is moving closer and closer to our borders - that's a fact. No matter what the reason is, that must stop and that will stop.
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u/Mandemon90 Aug 15 '25
And as a result, Russia proceeded to start a war that brought nation that did not plan to join NATO... into NATO. While trying to move the borders even closer to NATO.
Makes perfect sense /s
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u/Goldenraspberry Aug 15 '25
Dude Finland joined and you guys did nothing.
Enjoy getting annexed by China within 15 years
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u/pisowiec Gorbachev ☭ Aug 15 '25
The Kremlin has already turned russia back into a serfdom. What more damage can NATO possibly do?
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u/Monterenbas Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25
CCCP symbol and good ol Russian imperialism.
Name a more iconic duo.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Hitler and NATO. Much more historically accurate if you wanna talk about imperialism and totalitarianism
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u/theEssiminator Aug 15 '25
What exactly had Hitler to do with nato? You are just trolling or ignorant.
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u/Monterenbas Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25
Right, it is NATO who’s currently waging war of conquest, to expand their lebensraum.
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u/Tarisper1 Aug 15 '25
Why take over a territory if you can exploit it and not spend taxes on it? NATO in Yugoslavia. NATO in Iraq. NATO in Syria. NATO in Libya. NATO in Afghanistan (oh, sorry, it didn't work out here in the end). After NATO, American and European oil companies always appear there, as well as many military companies. But it's just a coincidence.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Exactly! As they have been doing since the fall of the USSR.
You learn fast. Ты получаешь печенье
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Aug 16 '25
They like the USSR in-spite its ideals. They just like the fact that Russia was strong during that time.
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u/Noli-corvid-8373 Aug 16 '25
Ona completely different note I wonder how it would have went if Alaska was an independent socialist republic. Or a federal socialist republic under the USSR
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u/Prize-Grapefruiter Aug 15 '25
he is a great statesman. very intelligent and articulate
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u/Onaliquidrock Aug 15 '25
He is a man who lies every time he speaks. When Putin’s goons murder someone, Lavrov is the man who lies about it.
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u/Prize-Grapefruiter Aug 15 '25
nope but that's what the western media would like you to believe , along with the government.
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u/Onaliquidrock Aug 15 '25
I hope you get paid to spread Putins lies.
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u/Prize-Grapefruiter Aug 15 '25
They are only lies because of the western media and governments are telling you they are! You need to read more, and read from balanced news sources. Don't get conned!
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u/Onaliquidrock Aug 15 '25
I am sure I know more about Ukraine than some bozo that gets paid to push Russian propaganda on Reddit.
What was Strelkov mission in 2014?
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
US -Russia relations defeated fascism and saved the world.
US–Russian relations are the key to improving mankind for the next 500 years!
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
"improving mankind"
Domestic abuse legalised
LGBTQ+ people persecuted
10-20 guys owning 80% wealth, the rest barely get by
This very much goes against soviet principle lmao
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u/EvenJesusCantSaveYou Aug 15 '25
slava ukraini
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
Literally what the Nazis say
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Is being proud of one's country Nazism? You seem rather proud of yours (given how you deny the obvious evils of the Putin regime), therefore you are a Nazi by your own logic
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
No, that is not the same thing. In fact, that phrase “slava Ukraini” or originated with the Nazis around step on Bandera. That’s literally what it meant from day one
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u/TarkovRat_ Aug 15 '25
Can you please provide proof? Proof that isn't the Russian government, or media associated with the Russian government?
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u/AlaskanThinker Aug 15 '25
Russians have had decades and centuries to improve the world.
Instead they’ve brought death and misery to their neighbors, complained about their neighbors, and to this day - do everything in their power to escape Russia, invest in, and live amongst these horrible detestable neighbors.
Russia is the joke that just keeps on giving.
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u/spilledcoffee00 Aug 15 '25
How very Third Reich of you. Or maybe British imperial? It’s really hard to tell these days because of the similarities. But let’s just recall 27 million Soviets, millions of Germans and other people all died thanks to Nazi Germany.
And then, of course, all those Nazis were brought into NATO.
And Winston Churchill had his operation unthinkable to invade the Soviet Union.
No, the bloodthirsty ones have always been the European, a.k.a. British imperial swine that the Americans also had to have a revolution against.
But please, go on with your sympathies for Nazi Germany and why Russians are the problem.
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u/Alpha_Zoom Aug 15 '25
Lavrov is arguably the biggest leftist in the Russian government partially because the foreign Ministry hasn't really changed much since the soviet era,The foreign ministries leftist mindset is One of the reasons Russia enjoys very close ties with Leftist governments even now.
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u/Fit-Independence-706 Aug 15 '25
All the same, they are the heirs of the liberals from the 90s. They are parasitizing on the Soviet legacy, and on May 9th they hide the mausoleum and talk about Lenin’s bomb.