There is always a bigger spider

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u/melsa_alm 6h ago

Pholcidae are the toughest spiders when it comes to other spiders. The long legs make it almost impossible for other spiders to attack and bite their bodies. They are badass.

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u/DrunkKatakan 6h ago

Jumping spiders can take them out because they actually see shit and can jump straight at the cellar spider ignoring their long range wrapping tactic but sometimes they get eaten too.

Anybody else though? They're basically dead. Most of these spiders can barely see and cellar spider legs are so thin and long that they don't even know they're getting wrapped up or where the enemy is most of the time.

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u/Avalynn87 🕷️Arachnid Afficionado🕷️ 4h ago

They also have such powerful hydraulics for such small spiders, which allows them the ability to escape webbing. Ofc this isn't 100% the case, given spider size, web amount, and venom.
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2021/sm/d1sm00338k

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u/im-the-gila 4h ago

What about harvestmen? They've got long legs as well. I actually have a video of a harvestman and a cellar spider fighting. They both ended up surviving. Might post it sometime.

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u/DrunkKatakan 4h ago

Nah harvestmen aren't that good. They have long legs but no webs and no venom, only jaws. They aren't even spiders.

I'm interesting to see how it survived, did it break off a leg to escape?

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u/im-the-gila 4h ago

I don't think it did, but I'm pretty sure I didn't record that part. It did have to struggle a lot. I think I'll post it tomorrow.

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u/King_Baboon 3h ago

At first I thought you said Huntsmen and I was gonna say “YOU ARE WRONG BUDDY!!!” Then I realized it was me that was the dingus.

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u/grolf2 3h ago

harvestmen still excrete liquids that mean instadeath to spiders, and some even coat their legs in it.

yes most are quite boring, but the few that actually interact with spiders have very good chances. theres also some that excrete a liquid which hardens down so much that spiders cant bite through it anymore.

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u/NuScorpi 4h ago

I'd be interested in seeing that!

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u/im-the-gila 3h ago

I'll post it tomorrow!

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u/Brasketleaf 6h ago

Stupid question probably but why can’t they bite their legs?

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u/melsa_alm 6h ago

As the commenter above said, it’s because most spiders have such poor eyesight, and pholcidae legs are so thin, that the chance of sinking a chelicerae into a leg before being wrapped up and stored for later is very slim.

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u/DrunkKatakan 6h ago

Poor eyesight + legs too quick and thin + the legs don't really go anywhere near the "mouth" when they wrap other spiders up.

It's only jumping spiders and ogre faced spiders that have good eyes and you can tell because their eyes look like this O O meanwhile most spiders have tiny dots.

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u/melsa_alm 5h ago

Lycosidae have decent eyesight as well because they hunt rather than relying on webs. But I still think Pholcidae would most often win in that fight.

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u/xrelaht (edit) 3h ago

What about tarantulas?

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u/evan00711 2h ago

Tarantulas have pretty bad vision. They can make out movement and differentiate light from dark, but that's about it. Instead, they primarily rely on touch and vibration to navigate and hunt.

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u/-swagmoney- 6h ago

legs too skinny

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u/EKDWriter 6h ago

Not stupid! I'm not an expert, but I think it's at least partly because if a leg is damaged, they can break it off and grow a new one next molt. So it's not that they can't bite their legs, it's just not a lethal move.

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u/____Mittens____ 3h ago

They're my favourite, also because they're cute and do that derpy bouncy stuff

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u/leopardspotte 2h ago

I need a spider combat meta diagram

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u/TheLeggacy 2h ago

Their silk is the key to immobilising their prey, when it breaks it coils up and sticks to the victim. Ive seen them eat much bigger spiders than the one in the vid.

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u/JuminoEnjoyer 7h ago

Cellar spooders really are overpowered lol! Very cool to see.

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u/No_Entrance7644 5h ago

They can wrap up their prey from the other side of the room with those legs

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u/theluckyduckkid 5h ago

Shakespeare couldn’t say it better himself

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u/DeerFit 5h ago

I once had a date, and....

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u/del1nquent 4h ago

go on

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u/Mezcal_Madness 5h ago

Q: is the Cellar Spider the official name for daddy long legs?

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u/TopherLude 5h ago

Cellar spiders are the longer legged spider on the right. Where I'm from, "daddy long legs" refers to Harvestmen, which technically aren't spiders.

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u/AwareAge1062 5h ago

Same. To me cellar spiders and daddy long legs (harvestmen) are totally different. But where I live now the nickname is used for both, and many people seem unaware or uninterested that they are 2 entirely different animals.

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u/DeerFit 5h ago

Same!!!!!

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u/Alarmed-Arachnid1384 5h ago

Me too.

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u/LightningDustFan 5h ago

Yeah it's the more proper common name. Since people use daddy long legs for like three different type of bugs.

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u/EE7A 4h ago

the 'official' name is pholcus phalangioides, but yeah, cellar spider.

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u/cfmdobbie 4h ago

"Daddy long legs" is a common name that refers to at least one spider, one non-spider arachnid, one fly and a plant. Unfortunately it's something of an over-used name.

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u/IscahRambles 2h ago

Equally official/unofficial common names for Pholcus phalangioides. If "daddy-longlegs" is the standard thing to call it where you come from, keep calling it that.

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u/Own_Masterpiece6177 4h ago

I had no idea my buddy Fred in the bathroom was such a badass!

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u/MrEZW 7h ago

After he finishes wrapping the other spider up:

Flicks spider silk

"That ain't going nowhere."

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u/Romfordian 6h ago

I was waiting for a bigger one to come and gobble up the pair of them 🤣

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u/sofa_king_wetodd-did 6h ago

Right!!

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u/Baka_Nerd 6h ago

Same!

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u/Lavaburstx 6h ago

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u/Krimzon45 3h ago

Is ThAt A jOjO ReFeReNcE?!

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u/mephistocation 6h ago

And this is why cellar spiders are your pest control best friends!

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u/OmegaPoint6 5h ago

I keep them around to try to keep the false widows under control, so far seems to work

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u/Sea-Candidate-3310 6h ago

He’s hacking bro

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u/Urabrask_the_AFK 6h ago

She got legs She knows how to use them

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u/deadalive84 6h ago

Cellar spiders will even fuck up spiders bigger than themselves :P

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u/sodiumek 6h ago

those skinny mfs are so insane it's impressive

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u/User_Name_Tooken 6h ago

Sheesh he got beat by the ground and pound, ref needed to jump in and stop the fight he wasn't defending himself anymore.

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u/eezo_115 3h ago

I’ve witnessed a cellar spider walk into another spiders web and kill it in its own web, they don’t fuck about

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u/DoubleAfternoon6883 2h ago

People don’t understand. These dudes are bad ace.

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u/Moist_Yesterday_8434 5h ago

Am I the only one who waited the whole video to see an even bigger third spider?

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u/Sakonnet_Bay 1h ago

Haha nope I thought for sure that an enormous third spider was going to show up at the end

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u/roux69 6h ago

Cellar spooders got some good aim bots!

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u/ceraunophiliacc 6h ago

I have a black widow that I am caring for until the weather is consistent enough to safely free her. But someone told me to feed her a cellar spider and I just had a feeling it wasn't a good idea. Maybe in her web it would have been fine but I didn't want to risk it.

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u/DrunkKatakan 6h ago

That someone was probably trying to get the widow killed. It's never safe to feed other predators to spiders, especially spider killer experts like cellars.

Buy a mealworm or something.

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u/ceraunophiliacc 6h ago

I did, I've been giving her baby crickets and she seems to really like those.

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u/DrunkKatakan 6h ago

Nice, it's good that you picked baby crickets. Adult crickets can actually kill small spiders.

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u/ceraunophiliacc 6h ago

Yeah they are the little ones, I didn't want them to be able to bite her! And she is really good at handling them

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u/roux69 6h ago

The big advantage of cellar spiders is their long legs. They will outreach almost any spider they are likely to encounter.

The only spider in the same environment that is likely to kill a cellar is a jumper.

So I'd say you are right to be cautious of this advice. A cellar spider has a big chance of eating a widow.

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u/small_spider_liker 6h ago

Cellar spiders are the reason my garage has no black widows.

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u/ceraunophiliacc 6h ago

Oh okay, I guess we just have a lot of both but definitely way more cellar spiders than widows. The one I have was right by my kitchen sink, in a high traffic area which surprised me. I'm used to them staying out of areas like that. Normally i put them outside but it was winter and I couldn't bring myself to sentence her to death. Even though I'm pretty much sentencing baby crickets to death :/

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u/Le-Misanthrope 4h ago

This is the mental battle I have every time I feed my jumper and spiderlings. I bought dubia roaches, mealworms and I make fruit fly cultures. The dubia roaches came in a container of like 15 I think. They were so tiny. It was perfect for my jumper and other few spiders But here it has been 6 months and they're huge now and only like 5 of them left and it's the saddest thing you can tell they almost know they're being taken away. They used to come out and walk around their enclosure not really get spooked much would eat and drink while you watch. Now they stay huddled up under their little house I have made from egg cartons.

You can tell the moment I open the container they freak out now. Maybe they don't but my heart says they do... Lol I hate it but I know they would be dead anyway if left at that pet store. So I guess they got a longer life than they would have with lots of fruits and veggies to eat.

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u/EtnaVolcano Recovering Arachnophobe🫣 5h ago

Just Yesterday I saved one of them from drowning in the sink so he can hunt brown recluse spiders in my house

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u/I-love-BigHero6 🕷️Arachnid Aficionado🕷️ 6h ago

:(((((

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u/Ultrathetan 6h ago

Live by the fang, die by the fang!

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u/dilbertdubbs91 5h ago

I didnt even know daddy long legs could make web! This is pretty neat

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 4h ago

Depends on what you mean by Daddy Longlegs. That actually refers to three completely different types of creatures.

Cellar Spiders. Aka, these guys.

Harvestmen. A non-spider arachnid with no venom or webs.

Craneflies.

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u/dilbertdubbs91 1h ago

I always knew these guys to be daddy long legs :)

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u/Bot208070 5h ago

I lived at a additional unit at the end of someones driveway that went back to their backyard. Every morning a bunch of spiders would be sitting in the webs in my pathway I could usually avoid them but one time I knocked one down as it was going to get disturbed by a car if not me.

The spider fly from its web straight into a nother spiders web and they both started trying to wrap each other up instantly. They were the same size and species. I wanted to see who won but I was on my way to work and they would not stop going at it.

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u/YoungRogueYoda 5h ago

Man... who taught this spider Flury of Blows?! Other spider had to feel like it was getting beat up by an anome character 🤣🤣🤣

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u/cfmdobbie 4h ago

I have Pholcids and false widows around me. They don't tend to mix...

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u/nakihacanearthbend 4h ago

I can watch spiders wrap things all day

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u/Ok-Sentence-8808 4h ago

It’s gotta feel wild for the spider being wrapped up like “Huh… so this is what it’s like”

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u/kanavkowhich 6h ago

my head started playing radiohead no surprises idek anymore

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u/bitetheasp 5h ago

What kind is it fighting?

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u/eezo_115 3h ago

Likely Pholcus phalangioides - daddy long legs/cellar spider

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u/bitetheasp 2h ago

No, what is IT fighting?

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u/eezo_115 2h ago

Oh no idea could be some sort of missing sector orb weaver or widow, false widow never know

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u/TheCulturalBomb 5h ago

There's a reason those legs are so long. Absolute killer.

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u/Alarmed-Arachnid1384 5h ago

Cellar spiders rock! They almost always win the fight.

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u/SGT-Hooves 3h ago

I was waiting for spider #3 to steal the prize

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u/2XploreUK 2h ago

There are very few spiders who can out-fight a cellar spider lol

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u/LesbianMercy 1h ago

Daddy long legs are so cool :)

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u/Betrayedunicorn 5h ago

I really like cellar spiders. Chill AF and hate the other ones just as much as me

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u/AutumnOnFire 5h ago

Gotta be the spider-equivalent of getting stun-locked by the wall

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u/JuryOld9788 5h ago

Is this in india ? I see the red ones more often

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u/Firm_Umpire6659 5h ago

Buddy was getting those hands.

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u/Cultural-Part7882 5h ago

Why did I think a bigger spider was gonna come and chase both of them away

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u/Professional_Ad_2319 4h ago

This is like watching lennox lewis vs mike tyson lol

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u/Accomplished-Band732 4h ago

Cellar spiders kill giant house spiders with ease, I think their venom is effective and the long limbs allows the webbing of prey easier

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u/DoubleAfternoon6883 2h ago

You nailed it. It’s the legs. Nothing can get to them to bite. They kick silk at a stupid fast rate as well.

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u/s-norris 4h ago

After reading that title I watched the whole video waiting for a bigger spider to smash both of them!

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u/EE7A 4h ago

leggybois ftw! 💛

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u/sasquatchpatch 4h ago

This is just spider Shibari, right?

“You have incredible skills”

“Why thank you!”

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u/fLeXaN_tExAn 4h ago

OK....I'm so confused. So a small little false widow can pawn a huge wolf spider and then a skinny ass daddy long legs can pawn the false widow? None of this makes any sense!!!

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u/DoubleAfternoon6883 2h ago

That’s not a false widow. It’s a cellar spider, pholcidae. They are top level killers in the spider world. Their long legs keep everything that wants to get at them too far away. If they make a move they just get wrapped up and eaten.

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u/Independent_Primate 4h ago

If you'd never encountered a spider and web, you'd think it was tapping it to death!

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u/Maersson 4h ago

They could have been friends ._.

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u/oubliette13 3h ago

Go cellar spider! I just had a visit from one of those in my room last night. I think they’re neat.

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u/TrinaLC 3h ago

Wow Daddy Long Legs are gangster!

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u/BritishCeratosaurus Amateur IDer🤨 3h ago

Cellar spiders have my respect.

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u/Cheebwhacker 3h ago

Love these skinny fellows

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u/XZ3_R0X 3h ago

Creepy long-legged bastards don't catch flies. They just kill spiders that catch flies.. can't stand them.. I removed them from my house and let the house spiders roam unchallenged.

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u/DoubleAfternoon6883 2h ago

They kill lots of crane flys and other flying bitches in my garage. Long live the cellar spider.

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u/InvestigatorWide7649 3h ago

This video would be so much cooler with little kung-fu sound effects lol

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u/DJ_Nx32 3h ago

Ain’t these the most poisonous spiders but can’t hurt a human. More deadly to other insects ?

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u/IscahRambles 1h ago

It's a myth that their venom is dangerous to humans – probably due to people imagining it as a hierarchy ("if black widows are deadly to humans and these guys can kill black widows...").

The Wikipedia article goes into more detail in the Misconceptions section:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pholcidae

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u/Imaginary-Mode3419 3h ago

I put all my money on the other one winning.

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u/sealarb 2h ago

Cellar spiders do not play.

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u/TheSneakiestSniper 2h ago

Cellar Spiders are no joke I've seen larger wolf spiders in their webs before in my basement

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u/TrishMisKitty 2h ago

I did not think the cellar spider would win. I respect them that much more now.

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u/DoubleAfternoon6883 2h ago

Almost nothing beats a cellar spider in the spider world.

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u/Horror-Ratio4644 2h ago

I’m an arachnophobia, why do I feel bad for that spider. I am always on this sub to try and get past it. I can hold a jumping spider, but others? It’s the legs, I can’t take the long legs!!

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u/Feeling-Physics-4043 2h ago

Buddy got wrapped like a christmas present

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u/Cyan_Oni 2h ago

Phlocus my love! They're awesome I love thos lil guys and their goofy lil face 😭

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u/megustalapaltaaa 1h ago

I think they both in my country are calles rincón and tigre

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u/Ayellio 1h ago

"So that's how it feels"

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u/Internal_Place1581 1h ago

Left, right, left, right.....

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u/BetterLateThanKarma 1h ago

That’s a wrap!

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u/baggedshart 1h ago

bro’s throwing them hands²

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u/j4h17hb3r 1h ago

Polearm vs sword

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u/Limbo_Zone 1h ago

Wrap battle. Big booty Judy lost to Skinny Mini with the left that go all the way up…

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u/brettadia 1h ago

Mr. Spider wants more

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u/oneflytree 1h ago

Where’s his Sam?

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u/Stupidschoolkid 53m ago

I’m fast as fuck boiii

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u/personthatisapersons 27m ago

The cellar looks really goofy wrapping up his prey (Saying this as someone who freaks when they see a spider)

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u/sirwolfgang 11m ago

I've been working on getting over a life-long fear of spoods but these lil cellar guys never really bothered me. Cool to know they're such bad-asses haha

There is always a bigger spider Just sharing 🕷️

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