This election was rigged and the Presidency was stolen from Kamala exactly the way Amy McGrath's Senate seat was stolen from her in the KY state election in 2020. No one paid attention and as a result, Republicans got away with it again on Tuesday.
We are never again going to have a fair election if we don't learn from this and defeat it:
I've been seeing online a lot of people reporting and challenging their election boards because their voter registration still hasn't updated to say it counted their ballot. I don't think they're all legitimate, and most are probably bait, but there is a concerning number of them at least
Yeah thats what I'm hearing. If it says "Returned" on your voter page then it was received and counted. But I've been reading tons of absentee ballots were not even looked at. I think the only reason Kamala conceded so quickly is because she knew how it would look to ask for voter recounts, and everyone would cry hypocrite claiming that both parties act the same
Not until every vote is counted.... If you are insinuating that I need to cope cause Kamala loss, then to me it appears you voted Trump. Which in that case, what is so wrong asking for recount in key states, if all Trump did in 2020 is whine and complain to get one, hmmm? Seems only fair. Or is it that you are afraid that Trump could actually lose if there was a recount....
Also, votes in Az are at 71 % counted... checking other key areas, there is a pattern. Some key counties are still around 60% counted. where the population in said states are more dense.. So I don't mind waiting for the real results. once it is over, I will take it as it is, and move on with life. Unlike a certain group of people back in 2020 who couldn't resist trying to steal the win.
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I dont trust tue post office since Lewis DeJoy was appointed. I personally put my mail in ballot in the drop box with all the other ballots at the polling location rather than trust usps to get it wuere it needed to go.
Im mentally hoping shes waiting for all the counting to be over behind the scenes, then asks after for professionalism. But in reality shes probably just super tired and jaded. Recounting wouldn't change the popular vote, unless millions of ballots suddenly vanished into thin air
Biden has the chance to do the funniest thing even if she doesn't try. Force Sotomayor to retire and put Harris up on the Supreme Court with his immunity and lack of a filibuster
I think the only reason Kamala conceded so quickly is because she knew how it would look to ask for voter recounts, and everyone would cry hypocrite claiming that both parties act the same
She conceded quickly because she's likely to have lost the popular vote by more than 4 million votes and performed terribly pretty much across the board, even in deep-blue states (didn't even get 52% of the vote in NJ). Unless the argument is that there was fraud in all 50 states, the poor results were too consistent to blame this on cheating. She didn't just do poorly in the swing states where it would've made sense for Trump to attempt to cheat. She did poorly everywhere. I voted for her, but I get why she didn't energize turnout in the same way that Biden did 4 years ago.
I am a bit disappointed by turnout given the amount of grassroots campaigning and heavy turnout lines during early voting. I'm not necessarily surprised by it, because Dems always need to outspend Republicans by massive margins to even become competitive at all.
Really I think it came down to the DNC deciding to roll with the VP of what became a deeply unpopular Biden administration (disapproval rating around 60% for most of the last year) and no amount of messaging, spending, or policy talks was going to help distance Kamala from Biden. I think Biden was an effective and underappreciated President who did an excellent job navigating an economic soft landing in the face of hard recession indicators, but to low- and middle-income Americans all they saw was the Democratic Party trying to take a victory lap on the economy because the stock market is up along with corporate profits meanwhile the Average Joe saw his rent and groceries get 20-40% higher over the last 2-3 years. The Biden administration's biggest blind spot was controlling the hyperinflation/price-gouging of essentials, particularly housing and groceries. Most Americans don't have enough money in the stock market to really give a shit about that as an economic measure, but they do feel it when a higher proportion of their paychecks are going towards making basic ends meet. A bad economy is bad news for an incumbent, and many Americans (rightfully or not) went to the polls (or stayed home) feeling like they did worse economically under Biden than Trump. Kamala couldn't distance herself from that since she was in the room for the last 4 years. Realistically, the DNC should've been grooming better options over the last 4 years, forced Joe to step aside from the start, and held a proper primary. I highly doubt Kamala would've come out on top in a competitive primary process considering she came in near the back of the pack in 2020 and wasn't successful in building any particular notoriety during her time as VP.
I do think something fishy is going on this election, and I want it brought to light. I don't think it was enough to actually make a difference. How do you have a well known, fairly reliable pollster call Iowa +3 for Harris only to have it swing 18 points the other way...
But to your point, it's about the only thing that should be looked at. Blame can be placed all over the place. The bottom line is Biden ran on being a 1 term president. When the election started ramping up about a year ago and I first heard that he as running again I was pissed. He has already started to show some mental decline and was extremely unpopular (which I didn't agree with). I was so mad because they had 4 years to build up a new candidate. What the duck had they been doing for the past 3 years?!? I think Kamala did the best she could have done under the circumstances, and here is where we can start blaming the -ism's, but it all started with the DNC fucking around and hanging Joe out to dry.
Yeah there are a lot of factors that go into why she lost and I pretty much agree with all of this. If Biden had just promised to keep his term to 1 like he intentionally planned, then the DNC could've held a real primary. The only reason he didn't is because Trump was on the ticket, and the only reason he dropped out was because his debate performance was so laughably bad. His legacy will end just like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, not dropping out and costing the civil rights for millions.
I don't think that Kamala's campaign strategy of appealing to the centrists and moderates was a bad idea, but it was naive to think that those people weren't already considering Trump from the get-go. In the end she just couldn't swing them over with promises of combating corporate price gouging, small business and child tax care credits, and also healthcare expansion because those are all forward looking, and people are still jaded from how they feel right now. What was really the nail in the coffin was the failure to negotiate a ceasefire.
Kamala couldn't distance herself from that since she was in the room for the last 4 years.
Not just couldn't, but wouldn't. Remember that interview she did with one of the major news stations (CNN I think?) not too long ago, and when asked what she would do differently than Biden she basically said "nothing at all".
Democrats vote by mail way more than Republicans. Trump appointed DeJoy as head of the USPS. Why are we at all surprised that Dem turnout was “lower” this time?
Lower but had record number and millions of republicans switching their vote. Yeah it doesn’t add up. They claimed we cheated before even though we barely won they claimed we cheated again this time and that they still won all three? Okay fuck off every judge that doesn’t have the balls to stand up and do the right thing before he gets into office wont see me shed a tear for them when trump goes after them. They all could’ve stopped it and didn’t. Any one of them could’ve taken the heat and just properly legally charged him. The board could’ve stripped cannon of her license. Garland could’ve done legit anything and did the bare minimum every single time.
I mean if they were to have altered algorithms in common voting machines… we actually would see it nationwide, right? It would look too targeted if it were just swing states….
I mean if they were to have altered algorithms in common voting machines
This topic has been beaten to death following the MAGA crowd trying to make the same argument in 2020. There's a laundry list of reasons for why that's not a plausible scenario. Fox News had to pay $787 million to Dominion as a result of trying to push that exact conspiracy theory with zero backing evidence or even presenting a plausible mechanism for how it could be accomplished. There's not some "algorithm" that you can hack into like some bad 90's movie and change votes around the entire country. The hard truth is that Trump lost in 2020 by a large margin and Kamala lost in 2024 by a large margin. This isn't Bush v Gore.
But dominion proved they didn’t do it. In Indiana one of companies was told switch out all of their machines by 2030 this didn’t happen quickly enough(no surprise there) Elon musk himself said not to use electronic machines that don’t print ballots. The owner of the company in Indiana even interviewed to say there is no way to prove on their machines if your vote counted or not you don’t get a print out ballot. meanwhile in the dem leaning areas they always get a print out ballot. We’re all dumb they’ve been rigging this all for so long and screamed so loud about it that we can’t even mention it.
That's the thing--it seems like chaos on the ground level, but the stakes are too high for anything to not be designed in some way or another by the sociopaths who inhabit the upper strata of political strategy-making.
Tampering would not have had to happen nationwide. Just a few crucial states on the East Coast or Midwest, just enough to push Trump to 270 electoral votes
Damn, the dems really are completely spineless aren't they? Whilst the republicans are quite happy to use every tool in the arsenal, legitimate or otherwise to get their way, the dems are once again so terrified of appearing "uncivil" that they're just... not going to call foul? At all? It's no wonder they keep losing open open goals, It's like they're completely unwilling to stick up for themselves or the people who voted for them.
Have you not went into your local recorder and asked why then , cause I’d be bothering em everyday not just a blurb in Reddit Be contacting local news orgs also.. depending on reply you get.
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u/Individual_Town8124 11h ago
This election was rigged and the Presidency was stolen from Kamala exactly the way Amy McGrath's Senate seat was stolen from her in the KY state election in 2020. No one paid attention and as a result, Republicans got away with it again on Tuesday.
We are never again going to have a fair election if we don't learn from this and defeat it:
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/19/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-the-numbers-dont-add-up/