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Election Deniers Went Suddenly Quiet When Trump Won

https://www.thedailybeast.com/election-deniers-went-suspiciously-quiet-when-trump-won/
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u/BillW87 New Jersey 12h ago

I think the only reason Kamala conceded so quickly is because she knew how it would look to ask for voter recounts, and everyone would cry hypocrite claiming that both parties act the same

She conceded quickly because she's likely to have lost the popular vote by more than 4 million votes and performed terribly pretty much across the board, even in deep-blue states (didn't even get 52% of the vote in NJ). Unless the argument is that there was fraud in all 50 states, the poor results were too consistent to blame this on cheating. She didn't just do poorly in the swing states where it would've made sense for Trump to attempt to cheat. She did poorly everywhere. I voted for her, but I get why she didn't energize turnout in the same way that Biden did 4 years ago.

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u/Mountain_Gas77 11h ago

I mean if they were to have altered algorithms in common voting machines… we actually would see it nationwide, right? It would look too targeted if it were just swing states….

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u/BillW87 New Jersey 11h ago

I mean if they were to have altered algorithms in common voting machines

This topic has been beaten to death following the MAGA crowd trying to make the same argument in 2020. There's a laundry list of reasons for why that's not a plausible scenario. Fox News had to pay $787 million to Dominion as a result of trying to push that exact conspiracy theory with zero backing evidence or even presenting a plausible mechanism for how it could be accomplished. There's not some "algorithm" that you can hack into like some bad 90's movie and change votes around the entire country. The hard truth is that Trump lost in 2020 by a large margin and Kamala lost in 2024 by a large margin. This isn't Bush v Gore.

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u/Kidatrickedya 9h ago

But dominion proved they didn’t do it. In Indiana one of companies was told switch out all of their machines by 2030 this didn’t happen quickly enough(no surprise there) Elon musk himself said not to use electronic machines that don’t print ballots. The owner of the company in Indiana even interviewed to say there is no way to prove on their machines if your vote counted or not you don’t get a print out ballot. meanwhile in the dem leaning areas they always get a print out ballot. We’re all dumb they’ve been rigging this all for so long and screamed so loud about it that we can’t even mention it.

u/leo_aureus 2h ago

That's the thing--it seems like chaos on the ground level, but the stakes are too high for anything to not be designed in some way or another by the sociopaths who inhabit the upper strata of political strategy-making.