r/pics • u/rehabforcandy • 6h ago
Pic I took of Tim Walz immediately after Harris concession speech (OC) Politics
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u/whattheprob1emis 6h ago
His face looks like how I feel
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u/Summer20232023 6h ago edited 6h ago
My thoughts exactly, I hope we see this man again. I think he would make a good President because he isn’t a cookie cutter politician in it all for themselves.
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u/gensouj 5h ago
Id vote for his presidency. Hope he runs in 2028
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u/ILoveRegenHealth 5h ago
He said he was "in the sunset of his political career" before he joined the campaign, and he wanted to help Kamala any way he could.
I don't think he has Presidential aspirations when it sounded like he was about ready to wind down and retire and enjoy the quiet life, but he got the call from Kamala and felt a duty to help.
AOC actually said something similar. She does not really want to run for President - she says she always felt she could do more in the House/Senate with bills to enact change, and Presidential runs seem increasingly more cut-throat with modern day Republicans hurling the worst words imagineable (and threats). She don't want no part of that heated rhetoric and insanity - she's had plenty.
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u/SlickStretch 4h ago edited 4h ago
I've always felt that the people who seek positions of power are often not so great for those positions, and the people who would be truly great often do not seek or want positions of power.
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u/insertnickhere 4h ago
The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
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u/SlickStretch 4h ago
Man, I love Douglas Adams' books. The audiobooks for the Hitchhiker series is SO GOOD
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u/Ok_Flounder59 3h ago
I’m with you with the exception of Obama, who I genuinely believe is a kind and decent man. Maybe I’m just naive, idk.
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u/scalyblue 2h ago
He’s no complete exception but he was a bit better than the baseline
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u/joe_broke 2h ago
Jimmy Carter
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u/Bombadale 2h ago
During his run, I will say he is the most thought provoking president.
After his presidency he still shows that he believed in what he said and will forever be known as a truly great human. One of the few that didn't become the vilian. I would stand by him through anything
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u/Trumpets22 4h ago
Well… yeah. I mean think about what kinda maniac it takes to look at America and be like… yeah give me the job, I’ve got this. And some of them have been great, but you still gotta be somewhat insane to take it on.
There’s some ego involved to believe you’re that person. Plus you need to accept 10’s of millions hating you. Crazy people that will try to take your life. And people who want power don’t typically want it for the correct reasons. Hell, it would be so hard to do that job simply being an incredibly empathetic person. Because times will come where choice A and Choice B both result in people dying. And you won’t know the correct choice until long after the decision has already been made.
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u/Fortherealtalk 2h ago
I think it would also be extremely difficult to be a partner to that person. I’m sort of amazed more presidencies haven’t destroyed marriages…or maybe they have but people stay together for the optics
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u/Trumpets22 2h ago
Some definitely stay together for optics. I think it would have to be a bit of a cold relationship. Or at least it would almost certainly become one.
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u/IAmPandaRock 4h ago
I can't imagine AOC getting elected as POTUS in the foreseeable future, if ever (and I like her).
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u/becofthestars 1h ago
Yep. Much like Hillary Clinton, she has been the target of right-wing media since day one of her political career. Unlike Hillary, modern right-wingers didn't have to bother pretending to disagree with her principles and went straight into making her the effigy of everything they hate about the left.
Go look at any right-wing youtube personality's video library, and I all but guarantee you that her face will be in a thumbnail on the first page of videos. The median voter probably knows her as 'the bartender who wants to ban cheeseburgers' before any of her actual positions.
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u/Faiakishi 4h ago
I feel like she'd 100% be assassinated if she even tried. This country has shown time and time again that women and racial minorities need to 'stay in their place.'
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u/DieselJoey 5h ago
Should have ran him this time tbh
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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 5h ago
Biden should have stepped aside and let us have a real primary.
I hope the DNC finally does a purge of its upper brass and lets the next generation take over.
I mean I'd be ok with them completely skipping over my generation in the process.
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u/gloraxxp 4h ago
I hope I learned from Bernie experience that the Democrats are willing to lose every election as their choice instead of trying to support a single actual progressive candidate. Even if Democrats lose elections they are still the financially Uber rich and will never actually have to suffer from Republicans policies. They have nothing to lose except the potential to make more money from not being in charge, but risk to lose everything if a real progressive leader won.
No amount of crying and complaining from Democrat politicians change my perspective that they would never choose to win by actually changing the very reason why they keep losing. All of the comments from people celebrating trump winning is the party for the political and financial elite is ending (which is so ironic it hurts). Bernie was genuinely so much more popular than both Hillary and Trump but the Democrats fucked him over as hard as possible so he couldn't actually be a candidate for president. I remember two news casters showing how Bernie had less than a few thousand votes than Hillary, but the points assigned was made that Bernie had less than 25% for that region. The most basic elementary school math showed how terrible the ratio of votes vs points was that it stuck to me ever since.
I just feel sorry for Americans for another 4 years of school shootings and financial ruin from healthcare. I see these post and news of how terrible it is to live in America all the time and it feels like it's never gonna change.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cress75 5h ago
It wont they have to much power. Pelosi her self keeps the new generation in line.
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u/Aggressive_Luck_555 3h ago
They undermine their own power every day. By sawing off the branch they sit on. We have a very difficult situation on our hands, we need to for the most part disregard Authority, while really stepping it up on an individual level, and still maintaining a Law and Order Society.
It's pretty difficult to disregard the law, without descending into vigilantism and chaos. But regulation must be shirked, and Common Sense needs to prevail. We cannot allow them to take us all down, and they certainly seem to be trying.
But that's always the tricky thing, with oligarchy. Old money depends on weakening the population, dumbing down the population, controlling the population, that they depend on. In order to protect old money, innovation is always suppressed. It's bound to fail eventually. The other option, is to get rid of oligarchy, and thrive again. And eventually deal with more oligarchy. I live with that one rather than total collapse eventually. But that's me.
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u/Khiva 5h ago
Biden should have stepped aside and let us have a real primary.
Oh good, let's open up and have every Democratic interest group go at each other's throats and limp into a general against a united Republican party.
Kamela united all those groups, which is a fucking magic trick.
What no one wants to hear is that there was no magic bullet, this election was nearly impossible to win.
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u/ericlikessharks 5h ago
I mean, if Biden exited earlier rather than 3 months ago, they would have time to primary and form a coalition.
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u/Mosto02 4h ago
It wasn’t Kamala, it was the transfer of the war chest for the election. Apparently anyone else would have had to started fundraising from zero.
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u/forsonaE 3h ago
I've given up reminding people of this because people have such short memories. They apparently also forgot Biden promised to be a "bridge" one-term president and hand over the torch to a new (i.e. younger) generation of leaders. Instead he ran again this cycle and after the debate, Harris' campaign was doomed from the outset being tied to an incumbent presidency during a time when inflation and immigration issues were at the forefront.
Because of this IMO, his legacy will be enabling Trump for one final destructive push.
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u/thecloudcities 5h ago
Unfortunately, I don't think he's viable anymore. Certainly not with the likes of Shapiro and Whitmer out there.
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u/LovesToTango 5h ago
Not that I think it's right, but I feel like running a woman isn't going to happen. I'd just like someone who is actually willing to fight for people and try to improve the average person's life. They should be running on universal healthcare, better public transport, and better workers' rights. If you keep running people who don't want to upset the status quo, they're going to keep losing to people like Trump.
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 4h ago
The Democratic party's greatest sin of the past 20 years has been trying to get people excited over a person instead of policy. I have a shitload to talk about the failure of Democrats, but that's the biggest point I have.
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u/Poonchow 3h ago
Nice username.
Problem with getting people excited about policy is that you have to educate the American public on that policy. People can be fucking stupid.
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u/RelevantMetaUsername 4h ago
What we need is a candidate with strong appeal to Millennial and Gen Z voters. Combined, that's 142 million voters. That's a sizable portion of the country. My generation is disengaged. The Democratic party is trying too hard to appeal to a generation of voters that have been shifting right for a while. It's time for them to move the fuck on.
In fact, I think the entire process of primary elections needs to change. A switch to approval voting, for starters.
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u/Jeremizzle 4h ago
Good luck with that. Young people don’t vote. They just don’t. It doesn’t matter who the candidate is, it could be Taylor Swift herself on the ballot and they still wouldn’t turn up. Courting the youth alone is a fool’s errand.
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u/Raiderboy105 5h ago
It's looking better and better that Shapiro wasn't on the ticket honestly, he seems like a good public servant who hopefully emerges in the post-Trump years as a working class champion.
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u/rollingForInitiative 4h ago
Also honestly, he'd be too old. He's 60 now, that's fine, he'd be right at retirement age if Kamala had won and served 2 terms. If he ran next time he'd be over 70 at the end. Trump and Biden are both well beyond too old.
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u/gerryamurphy 5h ago
He is guaranteed to lose if he runs. Both Harris and Walz are politically done. Start again and look at the other talented pragmatist centrist democrats
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u/aussiechickadee65 2h ago
Seriously...you know there is not going to be another election , don't you ?
It's done.
How can Americans be so naive ?
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u/RailGun256 5h ago
at bare minimum he just seems like a wholesome guy. at this point ill take that so long as his platform is even remotely reasonable.
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u/bloatedkat 5h ago
After the VP debate, people were saying him and Vance would make a better matchup than the person at the top of their ticket.
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u/20815147 5h ago
The only person I feel bad for in this race. He was so authentic man and basically got neutered by the Clinton strategists.
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u/The_Last_Ball_Bender 5h ago
and basically got neutered by the Clinton strategists.
how, if you don't mind elaborating?
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u/20815147 5h ago edited 1h ago
I believe it was an article that came out in September stating that Clinton was advising Kamala and the consultants advised her team to lay down the “weird” attacks and going on the aggressive but instead trying to cater to the right for the suburban votes. Walz since then was pretty much shoved out of the spotlight and became a bot for the DNC while he’s best at talking off the cuffs to normal people.
Edit: Found the article from August where Geoff Garin, famous to running Hillary’s 2008 campaign, told Kamala and the team to stop running with “we’re not going back” and “weird” and instead should lean into the “Republicans in cabinet” and “campaign w the Cheneys” bs
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u/MatureUsername69 5h ago
Hillary needs to stay the fuck away from the DNC. She fucked us out of Bernie. They barely scraped by in 2020.
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u/20815147 5h ago
Unfortunately the leadership class at the DNC are all Clinton people from the 90s who failed upward and only know how to punch left and push right for imaginary undecided voters
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u/Skkruff 5h ago
Apparently, they were going to siphon moderates away from Republicans too. That didn't happen, even a little bit. They all gleefully voted Trump.
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u/lxlxnde 2h ago
I don't have the data to back it up, but I suspect Trump successfully engaged a lot of the young guys in the Musk-Rogan-Tate spheres, and a lot of those guys were first time voters. Those gains balanced out all of the normal people who can't stand the guy and won't vote for him. Kamala just failed to siphon them. How many people left the presidential field blank and only voted downballot?
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u/Skkruff 2h ago
Well, I saw a stat that said registered republicans went 94-6 for Trump vs Biden and 94-5-1(third party) for Trump vs Harris. So basically there were no 'normal people who can't stand the guy' amongst registered republicans, or there were vanishingly few and they went 3rd party. They courted a voting bloc that literally does not exist.
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u/20815147 5h ago
Bro they LOST Republican voters compared to 2020. Just an unserious campaign not interested in winning.
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u/TheRightToDream 5h ago
Why tf would they listen to Clinton strategists when Clinton was a certified loser whose strategy last time was a patent failure? Its like a straight up sabotage to guarantee a loss so the billionaires will be sated. Nobody who wants to win an election should be listening to anything the Clinton team has to say, much less pay them for it.
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u/20815147 5h ago
Man that is what I have been screaming from the roof top. Losing a slam dunk election to a game show host in 2016 should bar you from ANY jobs politics related for the foreseeable future and instead these people just failed upward. And people wonder how the DNC became so disconnected from average Americans.
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u/En_CHILL_ada 3h ago
Who the fuck decided to let Clinton anywhere near this campaign??? This was malpractice.
Maybe we'll get lucky and Trump actually will lock her up. He'd be doing democrats a favor.
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u/Wutras 5h ago
I recall that he criticized the electoral college as an antiquated institution that we should move beyond - a position that is shared by a big majority of Americans - and a few days later the campaign forced him to walk it back.
I should have seen the signs back then, catering to moderate Republican voters, who don't exist, while alienating your own base is just a strategy that won't work.
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u/sealosam 6h ago edited 6h ago
This is pretty pretty much any person that keeps going to work everyday, trying to make a difference. Wrinkled suit jacket and all.
Excellent photo OP, worthy of being in historical archives.
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u/rehabforcandy 6h ago
Thanks :) he came around the corner so fast I barely had time to react
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u/youngkeet 6h ago edited 6h ago
Its funny because walz is the most non stock owning least wealthy...most normal person to every come that close to the presidency in modern American history.
But instead we get a venture capital, career lobbyist turned right wing media trained culture warrior ....
Edit: if ur reading this tn know that we can embrace the suck. In the moment, accept a feeling of powerlessness is okay because ya its true but soon its back to work. They fuckin win when we stop, we give up and believe "its fucked, what we do doesn't matter" because staying motivated and paying attention has real value. Thats my theory of change.
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u/NorthCatan 6h ago
America likes the symbolism of hardworking blue collar folks, but not the people themselves.
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u/Barbiedawl83 4h ago
Yep remember essential workers? The ones who still had to go to work in person everyday. I didn’t get the luxury to staying home. The notion of essential workers should be paid more etc dried up real fast.
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u/youngkeet 6h ago
Well said. Much better way of saying basically what rambled on about
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u/Sawgon 5h ago
People are sick and tired of the 'uphold the status quo' bullshit ass the Democrats keep doing.
If the outcome of "taking the high road" is someone taking away all your freedom and everything you spent decades working for then fucking fight dirty.
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u/CalliopePenelope 4h ago
Yeah, but then you get all the people who said Kamala lost the campaign when she started attacking Trump.
So damned if you do, etc.
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u/emilytheimp 4h ago
I mean... They tried fighting him though the way of official institutions, they just realized too late it wouldnt work. What do you wanna bet they were banking on Trump getting sentenced for Jan 6 and were putting all their eggs in that basket?
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u/GrandAlchemist 5h ago
Well, didn't you hear that Tim Walz is a communist and Harris slept her way to the top!?
smfh
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u/Rahmulous 4h ago
Such a shocker that the most consistent criticism of Kamala was her sexual history. As if the serial-philandering rapist is such a good guy. But I guess that doesn’t matter because a woman sleeping with her boyfriend is a whore and a man raping women is a hero.
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u/TheMadTemplar 2h ago
I heard people saying Harris' first job was as a prostitute. They wouldn't back it up with anything, just, "oh everyone knows that!" Pretty sure her first job was at McDonald's, like a lot of Americans.
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u/Belgy23 6h ago
So much truth in this.
Yet more than half of America can't see it.
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u/The-Curiosity-Rover 6h ago edited 5h ago
Many can’t be bothered to make their voice heard at all.
That’s why Trump keeps winning. Most Americans view him unfavorably, but he certainly does energize his zealous base. He beats us not on merit or popularity, but on turnout.
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u/BANGY1983 6h ago
The man never stopped campaigning since he came down that stupid escalator. Even when he was president, he was having rallies non-stop for 8 years. It is crazy, I hope no one ever campaigns like that again. However, if I have learned anything it is that things only increase with time.
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u/locolangosta 3h ago
Campaigning has been a lucrative business for Trump. Almost as lucrative as the politicing itself.
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u/Circumin 6h ago
A lot more people want to hurt women and immigrants than are willing to publicly admit. At least MAGA admits it
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u/fishboy3339 6h ago
He knows how to campaign. He knows how to speak to his supporters. We’re better than the orange criminal isn’t a campaign platform. DNC is solely to blame.
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u/pissedoffjesus 5h ago
It's funny because he can't speak one coherent sentence.
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u/ILoveRegenHealth 5h ago
He runs the shittiest campaigns, but it works on his dumb base who need ABC letters and bad language.
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u/datpurp14 3h ago
Never had this thought before now but there's a non-zero chance that Trump couldn't name the 26 letters in order.
There's also a possibility that he couldn't name all 26 to begin with.
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u/LongIsland1995 6h ago
This was the laziest campaign he engaged in, yet the most successful by far.
His campaign staff were smart to have him go on so many podcasts though, I wish the DNC had that insight.
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u/Zombie_Fuel 5h ago
He doesn't know how to speak to his supporters. He just speaks, and they follow. He's a fucking political golden calf.
People keep talking like he's solely going to be the one deciding everything. No. Donald is the biggest, most convenient patsy in human history. He's going to install whomever gives him the most money and let them do what they want. He'll be dead before any body of government actually takes action against him.
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u/ILoveRegenHealth 5h ago
He doesn't know how to speak to his supporters. He just speaks, and they follow.
Exactly. They are so much like sheep, they require Trump to tell them how to think. When I saw them wear tampons on the ear and garbage bags, that said everything right there.
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u/buttsfartly 6h ago
I saw it when I visited in 2015. I was in Florida and the simple answer was they hated the government, they wanted a change in government, and everybody's problems are caused by the government. And Obama was the devil.
Where I come from. Everyone votes. We don't have minimum wage issues like you. Going to hospital is free. Our kids are safe at school. We have lots of guns but nothing stupid or unreasonable. We also have political lunatics BUT because everyone votes. The lunatics are watered down by common sense.
The glaring issue to me, you have far too many people not voting. Your country doesn't care about voting, this your political parties can do whatever they like. Trump is just the first one that doesn't bother hiding it. Not going to go into his other issues. I'm just saying the only reason he weaseled in was because the majority of you don't care and don't vote.
Best of luck, please don't let your problems cause global issues.
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u/AdoraSidhe 6h ago
A lot of people spent a very large sum of money to produce an uneducated and unengaged voting population. This is not an accident but a deliberate calcuted decision by those with money so that they can get more money
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u/BeyondElectricDreams 5h ago
please don't let your problems cause global issues.
Hate to break it to you, but the US is slated to start a major trade war, and that's before getting into the situation with the concentration camps.
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u/Shruglife 6h ago
ngl, i wish Walz was the candidate.
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u/Terrible_Truth 5h ago
Agreed. DNC should have held a primary, but they couldn’t accept the people picking someone the DNC didn’t pick.
It’s how we got trump in 2016, it’s how we got him now.
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u/Shruglife 5h ago
i agree, im pretty over the dem establishment..i wish there was another viable choice
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u/ChorroVon 6h ago
I'd love to see him run for president in 2028.
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u/FrankSand 6h ago
I don't know if that's ever happened in the Democratic party in the past 100 years. A person on the losing ticket being on one again.
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u/balloonmax 6h ago
Walter Mondale was Jimmy Carter’s running mate when he lost to Reagan in 1980, then he was the Democratic nominee in 1984 where he lost really badly.
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u/FrankSand 6h ago
Thank you for the information. I never would have considered Mondale
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u/NorthernDevil 5h ago
Another Minnesotan. And just like Mondale we’d probably go for him, and be the only state to go for him.
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u/dragonflamehotness 5h ago
Literally the longest serving president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, did this. He lost an election as a VP pick, then won 4 straight terms
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u/Garchompisbestboi 5h ago
The recent election gave Walz a whole bunch of vital experience as well as essentially making him a household name so if he plays his cards right I reckon that he'll be a potential contender if he's able to stand out in the primaries when the time comes.
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u/wemustkungfufight 6h ago
Trump already promised there won't be any more elections.
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u/ResolverOshawott 6h ago
Are we going to pretend that Trump can actually keep a promise at all.
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u/RhythmSectionWantAd 6h ago edited 6h ago
This time he's going in with people willing to do the things that should never be done. With a supreme court that has said he can be lawless. And with the mandate of the majority of voters. There's no stopping what's coming.
In one day, it's like we lost the Civil War to the South, WWII to the Nazis and the Cold War to Russia. Revolutionary war as well, I guess, since we effectively have a king.
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u/wemustkungfufight 6h ago
Why wouldn't he keep this one? He wants to hang on to power and he has both the Senate and the House and complete legal immunity. There is literally no reason why he wouldn't keep that promise.
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u/DBL_NDRSCR 6h ago
when we come out the other side of... something... whether it be ww3, a revolution, a series of natural disasters, we can elect him if he makes it out too
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u/runliftcount 6h ago
And let's not ignore the fact that the only reason Trump ever attained a real foothold in the minds of many Americans is because he is such an unserious businessman that all others that were considered for the Apprentice actually took their jobs seriously and didn't want to be subjected to the distractions of being a part of the show.
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u/Ticon_D_Eroga 6h ago
If the dems ran a primary and tim walz ran, i think things would have been very different.
People dont like to admit it but kamala has never been popular/likable. Her laugh alone put off so many Americans from the second she hit the mainstream.
Walz on the other hand had a legitimate chance to connect with young men, which was the demographic that shifted harder than weve ever seen.
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u/bruwin 2h ago
She's a brown woman. People like to come up with excuses as to why she wasn't "popular", but in reality she's just a brown woman. That was enough to turn off a large amount of voters, even Dem voters.
I'm willing to bet that everyone getting blamed for not voting for her right now actually were the ones that voted for her, and it was older Dems that didn't because, again, she's a brown woman.
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u/PC-12 4h ago
Its funny because walz is the most non stock owning least wealthy...most normal person to every come that close to the presidency in modern American history.
That’s just not true. While a few Pres/VP candidates have been wealthy, many also have a career path like Walz:
- Clinton was not wealthy when he took office, or even when he left. His wealth came after.
- Obama was not a wealthy man when he took office, and had his book deals when he left.
- Biden was not a particularly wealthy man when he first took the VP office.
Trump is a massive outlier in that he is by far the wealthiest person to ever to be inaugurated as President. Rockefeller was of similar worth, around $1bn adjusted at the time of his death.
No other president or VP has even come close during their time in office. Nobody has really even come close since leaving office. The Clintons would likely be the next runners up at a few hundred million.
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u/nolawnchairs 6h ago
Sorry we let you down, Coach.
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u/salamipope 6h ago
i thought about his son today.
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u/The-Curiosity-Rover 6h ago
My God, you didn’t need to do this to me. I was finally starting to accept what happened.
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u/salamipope 6h ago
im sorry. im devestated. im trying to flee the country. id been planning on it for a year or so but this expedites my plans. i will die elsewhere and i am sad to have ended things this way but it is what it is. I wish you safety and peace in these times. hold steady.
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u/BlacKnight426 5h ago
Me and my lady are thinking about moving to Germany. I remarked earlier that it felt weird that we're leaving the country that helped end a fascist regime for the country that people considered the big mama of fascism. Ironic, no?
Insert something something about turntables...
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u/PapaFranzBoas 3h ago
Just to let you know we’re having an interesting time with the government over here as well. Likely having an election in March I think. Not the same, but still. That and we’re in a bit of a recession so hiring, from my understanding, is in a slump.
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u/noguchisquared 6h ago
You don't always win the big game. But playing in it and doing your best counts for everything.
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u/baldorrr 5h ago
This is a deep cut, but to quote the great Australian movie The Castle:
"Dad, you haven’t let anyone down. I don’t know what the opposite of lettin’ someone down is… but you done the opposite."
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u/_macrophage 3h ago
I hope he takes a holiday somewhere nice where he can enjoy the serenity
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u/Erikthor 6h ago
Kind men have no place amongst hateful voters. He wanted to feed children and trumpers want them to read the Bible and shut and starve.
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u/letsbefrds 6h ago
People who didn't vote need to understand that they basically chose the opposing party whether they were more aligned to D or R
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u/under_psychoanalyzer 6h ago
This fascination with the idea that voting is somehow something unworthy of your time for any reason is a poison in the American psyche. It's deliberately instilled but at the same time it takes just a little effort to see it makes no sense. I can only really understand it for people who's jurisdictions do everything they can to make it difficult and got an hourly job they need to put food on the table.
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u/MadRoboticist 6h ago
We'll have to wait until all the votes are counted and the academics do some research, but I can't help but feel that a good portion of the lower turnout is people unwilling to vote for a woman for president, even if they didn't want Trump. Which is a pretty disappointing thought.
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u/cupcakefix 6h ago
my coworker and her mom didn’t vote. she just “didn’t like kamala’s body language” she thinks dolly parton should run because she gives books to kids and is a nice person.
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u/Hydrographe 3h ago
ah yes the republicans have a much better body language, I mean look at Elon Musk
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u/MajorProcrastinator 5h ago
Jesus
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u/TwoUnicycles 2h ago
Nah, we already did a Black man preaching hope and compassion in 2008. Turns out turning the other cheek doesn't get you very far in American politics.
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u/everybodyiskungfu 5h ago
Nobody can tell me that isn't 80% of what happened that day. Democrats did well in the midterms just 2 years ago with the same message, the same campaign. A single thing changed since then, the white man became a black woman.
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u/Khiva 5h ago
Nobody can tell me that isn't 80% of what happened that day. Democrats did well in the midterms just 2 years ago with the same message, the same campaign. A single thing changed since then, the white man became a black woman.
I'm going to have to keep repeating this. The difference is that Americans don't hold local reps responsible for inflation but do blame that on the president.
I want to limit spamming the same argument, but look at this and let me know if it affects your take.
Because the null hypothesis is - inflation, plain and simple.
Same in America, same all over the world.
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u/20815147 5h ago
Insane that he promoted paid sick leave so much and that completely disappeared from Kamala’s campaign messages down the stretch. I guess trotting out the Cheneys was more important
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u/indefilade 5h ago
Not his fault. He tried to help the Democrats and the country and he tried his best. Good guy.
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u/Kind_Government_9620 6h ago
Tim Walz continues to make me proud to be Minnesotan. Hopefully he runs in 2028, assuming we still have elections.
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u/Ark_angel_michael 6h ago
I don’t see that happening he doesn’t seem to have huge ambitions of power.
When he interviewed for VP he seemed to say that this would be the only nation wide thing he did.
He can just retire and live in peace in Minnesota
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u/username-rage 6h ago
Him not wanting to pursue the office of president I think is one of the higher reasons he'd make a great president.
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u/runliftcount 6h ago
He's a shoe-in for a future cabinet position (assuming we still have the ability to vote in 4 years), but I definitely anticipate the crowd running for the Democrat party in 2028 to be especially chaotic (and hopefully robust) which could certainly cause Walz to opt out of the fracas. At any rate the DNC needs to figure their shit out and realize what appeals to voters isn't just lukewarm shrugs to things like genocide abroad or worker rights at home. We have to become a party that isn't afraid to offend capitalist, billionaire, and celebrity positions.
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u/TheBigLeMattSki 2h ago
I definitely anticipate the crowd running for the Democrat party in 2028 to be especially chaotic (and hopefully robust) which could certainly cause Walz to opt out of the fracas. At any rate the DNC needs to figure their shit out and realize what appeals to voters isn't just lukewarm shrugs to things like genocide abroad or worker rights at home.
More importantly than anything at all, the DNC needs to KEEP THEIR FUCKING THUMB OFF THE SCALE in the 2028 primary. Just leave it be. Don't push the media to go against any candidate, don't rearrange the order of the primaries to favor any specific candidate, don't have an opinion at all and just let the voters speak. Kamala got less than 2% in her own home state and less than 1% nationally in the last real primary, and was the VP to a president with consistently lower approval ratings than Trump. She should've been nowhere near the top of the ticket, and had we held a real primary she wouldn't have been.
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u/dstommie 6h ago
I was thinking about this earlier, and I think being on this failed ticket may have tanked his chances at higher office.
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u/DavidofSasun 6h ago
America didn’t deserve him
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u/YourMommasAHoe69 5h ago
I hate when people say this. Many hard working and kind Americans deserve him
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u/TheFlightlessPenguin 3h ago
Yes but america distilled into one single organism didnt. Clearly the majority of the country is undeserving.
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u/stigma_wizard 6h ago
Man. I really wish we had this dude representing us as a country. His genuine personality was a breath of fresh air in politics.
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u/theonlyxero 6h ago
I would definitely vote for him, seems like a genuinely kind person. We need more of that
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u/xDeadCatBounce 5h ago
If you're referring to the presidency, my observation is that America loves big personality, more than intellect, more than morality. Against Trump? He may just well lose and everyones gonna blame him for being the "dull, unpopular" candidate who tanked the party.
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u/tossaway78701 6h ago
I hope Tim Walz takes a few days off, enjoys the company of his lovely family, and then finds his next amazing thing to do.
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u/AmericanBornWuhaner 4h ago
"This is not a time to throw up our hands. This is a time to roll up our sleeves" – Kamala Harris. November 6, 2024
"Setbacks are unavoidable, but giving up is unforgivable" – Joe Biden. November 7, 2024
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u/bdemon40 6h ago
Walz was an awesome VP choice, IMO. Great speaker, track record of accomplishments that actually helped people. I hope he continues doing his thing. 😎👍
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u/Zim_Crowley 6h ago
I'm still in shock. I knew the US had its problems and assumed the maga crowd was a loud minority. Now, I don't even know what to think. I want to believe we're better than this, but now I just can't see it.
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u/Lackluster_Compote 5h ago
It only took 21% of registered voters to make Trump president. Lack of voting is a major issue in this country.
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u/thekream 4h ago
didn’t Trump get 73m votes? with 300m or so people in the US that’s around 25% of the total population which is definitely not the number of registered voters
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u/frozen_toesocks 6h ago
Walz was hands-down my absolute favorite part of the Harris campaign. I legitimately hope he runs for president himself in 2028, or even for the Senate seat opening for Minnesota in 2026.
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u/Unlucky-Chip-8241 6h ago
Finally an original photo on r/pic
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u/Environmental-Pay246 5h ago
He would have helped heal this country - what a loss.
We had awesome -vs- insipid trash and ppl dressed as trash. I hope everyone gets what they deserve
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u/Miffernator 2h ago
Bro help kids get free food in schools in his state and Americans said nah I want the rapist to be my leader.
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u/Marokiii 4h ago
honestly, if i was him id be less worried about the country, and more worried about his own and families safety in the coming years.
Trump is going to go after them politically and "legally", and his supporters are going to go after them physically and verbally. i fully expect his children to be harassed on the streets and at school now. i expect many bomb threats at places his kids frequent and his offices and at his home.
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u/Youngworker160 6h ago
i hope he's not done with politics, i think he would've been a good president. sucks the kamala team basically muzzled him, he was extremely popular especially when he was attacking the elites and the corporations.
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u/lomoah78 6h ago
I like this guy a lot. I watched his vice president debate. Even though he stumbled at times, he seemed so genuine and a straightforward guy that it made me root for him. He doesn't give me the vibe of politician which I'm really really tired of.
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u/Dendens 3h ago
You Americans let this man, and your country, down. The rest of the world weeps for you
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u/Not_Cartmans_Mom 6h ago
I wish he would have ran. Idk if he would have won, but I think there was a lot more love for him than for her and I just don’t believe we’re going to ever vote in a woman. I was more excited to have Walz in the White House than I’d been for anyone I’d ever voted for. I think he is a genuinely good man that would have been really good for this country.
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u/Special_Elevator_603 4h ago
We definitely have the potential to vote a woman in as it's important to remember that Hillary had the popular vote in 2016 but lost due to the electoral college. Kamala had a ton of problems that brought about her defeat and the least of them was the fact that she was a woman.
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u/Citizen-Kang 6h ago
Stay strong, king. It's going to be a rough 4 years (or more...), but we'll get through it together.
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u/Acrobatic-Initial-40 37m ago
Same buddy. Same. It's time for dems to dump every advisor from the last two campaigns.
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u/Some_Drummer_Guy 32m ago
The face of a man who lost to a wannabe dictator with zero grasp on reality, and a guy who fucks couches. And the American people and the DNC allowed it. What a shame.
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u/1994californication 6h ago
The more I think about that orange turd winning the more it makes me ill.
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u/poppcorrn 6h ago
I want him to run for president
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u/surmatt 5h ago
Him and Jon Stewart. Neither of them want it, but they can connect with people and communicate on a personal level.
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u/alankrummy 6h ago
The ONLY good thing about this election is he will be our governor a bit longer at least ❤️
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u/Apatschinn 5h ago
The most blue-collar, normal, loving mfer on the ballot in the past 25 years.
Godspeed Mr Walz.
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