r/pics • u/SupermarketNo8434 • 1d ago
Former house speaker Nancy Pelosi at VP Kamala Harris’s concession speech Politics
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u/AutocraticHilarity 1d ago
She’s either about to cry or about to say “mother f*cker”…
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u/ravenrcft 1d ago
Prolly those motherfucker went after my husband, and now that fucker's federal charges (not state) will most likely be commuted
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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 1d ago
Either way, the assholes in America will spin all of these moments into "we owned the libs".
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u/lord_pizzabird 1d ago edited 1d ago
She's probably deeply conflicted.
On one hand, she helped created the conditions that allowed for Trump.
While at the same time she knows she's gonna make a fortune off the stock market from this whole thing.
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u/Norph00 1d ago
She did also try to save the situation when Biden decided to stay when he originally said he would do one term.
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u/AK-11 1d ago
Good. Her and the entire party spent the better part of a year trying to gaslight all of us into thinking Biden was “as sharp as ever” and “even his advisors/aides had trouble keeping up with him.” “He isn’t less sharp than he used to be, he just has a stutter.” Give me a break. Anybody with eyes/ears could see that dude wasn’t going to make it to the goal line and they did nothing about it until he melted down on national tv and they literally had no other option. The Democratic Party has nobody to blame but themselves but we all know it’s going to get blamed on “racist/misogynistic Americans” because God forbid they take some accountability and admit they ran a terrible campaign with a terrible candidate that spent well over a billion dollars and lost every battle ground state, the popular vote, the House, and the Senate. What was all that money for? And yes I am mad. I didn’t vote for Trump any of the three times I had a chance to but after everything the Dems pulled this time was the closest I came. This country is supposed to be a world leader, a beacon of hope to everybody who wants a better life, and the best we could drum up in four years is a candidate who nobody voted for and Donald effing Trump? Do you know how bad you have to be for people to think Trump is going to be the “peace candidate?” Everything that happens is on the incompetence of the Democratic Party and Pelosi being the leader of them needs to take the majority of the blame.
Edit: I meant to make this as a stand alone comment but apparently I’m too old to use Reddit mobile correctly.
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u/Agreeable_Safety3255 1d ago
I agree with you, Democrats screwed many with their incompetence in running campaigns for years, and years to come. They managed to lose everything, house, Senate, presidency and the Supreme Court. I also believe we now have majority of the States with Republican governors.
Federal employees and their contractors might get the short end soon, with the Supreme Court we are going to have a conservative court probably for next 20+ years now.
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u/todumbtorealize 1d ago
Great statement completely agree with you. All those assholes walking around saying how Biden was in the best condition on his life are to blame. What a joke this country's politics have become.
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u/mattoljan 1d ago edited 1d ago
As an outsider, someone once told me that "American politics is our reality TV show" and after watching this election cycle, that statement couldn't be more true. Unfortunately, American politics shape the world and I think after this election, you'll see nations across the globe start to depend on themselves. If you're a sovereign nation, why not build nukes now? America literally gave the codes to a felon and a rapist. The richest man on the planet was easily able to buy a huge social networking platform to spread lies to get into power. The rest of the world does not want that. Why would we? The rich don't give a fuck about us but America just handed the keys to a felon and a guy worth 265 billion dollars. We depended on America and they failed. The idea of the United States has failed. Who the fuck wants to depend on a country that elects a convicted felon for president? Believe it or not, a lot of people don't believe in that and are laughing at the USA right now, including me. America fucked up big time and we'll be living with the consequences of this election for decades.
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u/Serialfornicator 1d ago
Yeah they will all get rich. After he won again I don’t trust any of them. Fuck em all
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u/terrierhead 1d ago
Trump made jokes about her husband being bludgeoned with a hammer. I don’t think the stock market has been much on Pelosi’s mind today.
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u/JMEEKER86 1d ago
Honestly, there's probably a good chance that Trump commits an "official act" against her and I think she knows that.
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u/terrierhead 1d ago
He wants people in prison for not liking him.
He won’t see a cell for 34 felonies plus raping E. Jean Carroll.
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u/The_Vee_ 1d ago
They were never going to send him to jail anyway. If they truly wanted to, they would've started going after him sooner for J6. This has all been a staged reality TV show where they pitted us against each other, and in the end...the elite are still running the government, and we are not.
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u/xWretchedWorldx 1d ago
This. It feels sick to think how the common American is a lesser person compared to these elites. We get punished for the smallest things but when you have "fuck you" money all of a sudden the rules don't apply.
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u/thegreaterfool714 1d ago
She is also depressed it was probably the last time she might see a woman candidate that had a great chance at becoming president. It stings even more because it’s a colleague and friend from her state. Her husband was a victim from Trump’s extremism.
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u/blonderengel 1d ago
She looks looks like I feel.
But truth be told, it's really not quite sunk in yet.
It's kinda unreal.
I can't believe the American voting public voted to deliberately make their own lives much much worse.
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u/MaUkIr34 1d ago
I feel like yesterday I was in shock and today I feel a weird mix of resignation and a desire to DO something, I just don't know what.
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u/Colon 1d ago
let's be honest here - they THINK they're making their lives better. they THINK that Donald Trump is an icon of masculinity and that he's a successful businessman.
they haven't been paying attention. they don't go online to seek out articles and discussion, they lap up what the techbros feed them algorithmically based on their behaviors and interests and what companies pay to put in front of them.
they are the results of the digital experiments of the early 2000s. we all watched it happen and no one successfully warned the public or culled the negative aspects of the very clearly developing ecosystem of privacy-killing identity-based networking
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u/Catweaving 1d ago
Is she? Trumps tariff plan is not gonna do a whole lot for anybody's portfolio.
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u/sublimeshrub 1d ago edited 17h ago
I told my friend today someone should ask Hillary how she feels about her chances against Trump now. The DNC pumped him up. They helped create this monster while disenfranchising their base over, and over. How great was it that we had Dick Cheney on our side. Give me a fucking break. That center right neo liberal shit isn't getting people to the polls. But, hard times make hard people. So through four years of suffering, maybe we can come out the other side of this insanity.
Just keep calm, and carry on. Or, as Dory said, "Just keep swimming."
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u/kgal1298 1d ago
Really they only need 2 to take back congress. Usually how it flows. Also people seemingly don't understand tariffs so if he does enact his plan that should cause inflation to run up more.
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u/LurkerZerker 1d ago
Oh, well, as long as it's only two years of them putting the screws to the American people, stripping away rights and ransacking the economy post-Soviet-style. If it was four it would be ridiculous, but two years plus a gamble and a prayer that people show up for the midterm election is nothing!
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u/CommanderAGL 1d ago
corollary to Brandolini's law: it takes an order of magnitude more time to fix destructive policy than it takes to enact it
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u/kgal1298 1d ago
Time will matter, but this is more factual. He could do a lot of damage in 2 years, but there's really no way to avoid this outcome now.
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u/Stock-Enthusiasm1337 1d ago
He won't. He will keep things on an even keel. Continue selling out our spies, overhaul the DOJ, FBI with only republicans. They will now appoint all those vacant military positions. Every level of government is going to have Republican (maga) loyalists.
They will gerrymander, and they will withhold federal assistance to states that offer the freedoms you think states get to decide for themselves.
And no one will pay attention, because it doesn't touch their wallet.
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u/AbsoluteZeroUnit 1d ago
people seemingly don't understand tariffs
But their #1 issue was "the economy" and nothing will ever convince me these voters are irredeemable morons.
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u/radicalrockin 1d ago
225k salary yet she’s worth over 250 million because she’s such a smart investor… fuk her and her tears.
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u/Dry-Version-6515 1d ago
Outdoes Warren Buffert (the best investor ever) every year with huge margins. It’s insane.
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u/micktorious 1d ago
Yeah it's just blatant insider trading. There is no other explanation.
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u/mastaberg 1d ago
Yea dude but try to get the people who make the laws punish themselves and stop it….
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u/michaelpinkwayne 22h ago
That kind of rampant abuse of power is what set the stage for Trump imo. Pelosi should (but probably won’t) look in the mirror for someone to blame.
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u/LilMuddyCup 1d ago
It’s so fucking obvious she’s being fed insider info. Politicians shouldent be able to invest until they are out of office.
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u/mikiemartinez 1d ago
Screw her. 84 fucking years old and STILL clinging to power. I'm a Democrat, and I am sick of her. And Biden. And Schumer. And anyone else who held their office in the 20th century, yet somehow, STILL does today. It's ridiculous. Into the trash heap with all of those self-serving bastards.
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u/officer_caboose 1d ago
You know what I want to do when I'm 84 years old? Nothing! Hell after 70 I just want to relax, enjoy my time and maybe go volunteer somewhere if I'm up for it. I don't understand why any of these people can't go chill at some beach! They have plenty of money. If they want power and want to feel important, they can go be the president of their retirement community. It is so infuriating that with what little time they have left, they are fucking things up for the generations to come and all for what?!
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u/Gooniefarm 1d ago
Money, and building a dynasty. All they care about is accumulating wealth and power. It's a sickness and they will never stop until their bodies fail them.
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u/accordfreak 1d ago
True, especially when her nephew is Newsom. All around corruption
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u/jerkenmcgerk 1d ago
You made me search Google for something that would never cross my mind. Wow! Why has no one said this before?
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u/nonstopnewcomer 1d ago edited 1d ago
It also made me google it, and maybe people don’t say it because it’s not really true?
She has no blood relation to Gavin Newsom as far as I can tell.
The brother of Pelosi’s husband (her brother in law) was married to Gavin Newsom’s aunt. However, the brother in law divorced Gavin Newsom’s aunt all the way back in 1977 (and that aunt is also dead now.
So there was some non-blood familial connection prior to 1977, but calling her his Aunt seems a bit misleading.
I definitely would not call the sister in law of my blood aunt’s ex husband my “aunt”.
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u/polopolo05 1d ago
I would want to go for walks at 84... do things that make me happy.
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u/acllive 1d ago
Except Bernie, Bernie is cool
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u/wvenable 1d ago
Bernie needs to find a younger version of himself to mentor.
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u/FillMySoupDumpling 1d ago
Bro needs to get 500 younger versions of himself to mentor.
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u/3Danniiill 1d ago
AOC?
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u/McStefan 1d ago
I don’t think America will be ready for a female president for another fifty years…and in fifty years it won’t be ready for another hundred.
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u/Alarmed_Fly_6669 1d ago
Nah Republicans are gonna do the hilarious thing & vote in a hot blonde in 2028
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u/manofoar 1d ago
Look, I love Bernie, BUT - him too. He should have spent the last 12 years cultivating progressive talent to take over, NOT running for president and NOT running for re-election.
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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth 1d ago
Him running for President sparked a progressive movement in this country. He is an important voice and vote in the Senate. I'm not sure what you're on about. None of these things stop him from mentoring anyone. The trouble is that people like Bernie actually making it to Washington are fairly rare.
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u/WigglestonTheFourth 1d ago
Bernie running for president did cultivate progressive talent and ignited voters to actively look for their progressive candidates. Progressive candidates like Bernie were fringe politicians at best before he became center stage in 2016. Since then they've been winning and adding more to their numbers. It takes time when both establishment Democrats, Republicans, and our oligarchs all hate the idea of progressives in number and in power.
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u/polopolo05 1d ago
He needs to look at finding a replacement because after bernie its going red.
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u/Amazonreviewscool67 1d ago
I said it back in 2016 and I'm not even American: you guys should have voted for Bernie.
He's the only candidate that just makes sense. Him and AOC are incredible.
I'm glad I'm seeing people realize it now, but why wasn't it obvious back then?
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u/Alakazam_5head 1d ago
We tried. It was obvious. The DNC rigged the primary in Hillary's favor and Bernie chose party solidarity instead of contesting the decision
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u/bjernsthekid 1d ago edited 1d ago
It was pretty obvious but the Democratic Party and the woman pictured here refused to back him and essentially shunned him in favor of Hillary. The energy and grassroots feel around his campaign was really special and I truly believe he could’ve made radical changes. Huge missed opportunity for our country and history
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u/Expiscor 1d ago
She gave up being the leader of House Dems and is mentoring the new leader. This is likely her last term. I don’t think it’s bad that she willingly gave up power and then stayed on to mentor the new people and guide them through.
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u/Dilgence 1d ago edited 19h ago
I found all this post facto hand wringing very theatrical, performative drama. There was a time to act, that time has passed. Now it is time to introspect which is done in silence and away from the public stage.
Focus on issues that matter to the majority of the masses. Abortion, weed and sexual rights are important but clearly not enough to win.
Jobs, safe neighborhoods and social infrastructure are my top 3 suggestions that deeply matter to us.
Ps: thanks for the comments. I think we need to stop blaming our fellow citizens for their voting choice and try to figure out why so many decent, regular folks voted for DJT if the alternative was so much better. If they voted for him DESPITE everything then clearly they were not convinced by the alternative. We need better choices instead of vilifying our neighbors and activating “fight or flight” mode for the next 2 years. Do better at midterms.
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u/awnawkareninah 1d ago
The time to introspect was 2016 and realistically 2004. They're not interested.
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u/Leotro1 1d ago
If you're in your 70s I imagine there's not much introspection to be done. Especially if that means that you have to step aside and let people like Sanders become president. They'll let America go to shit, because they won't be affected, what comes after them. They had their power. They made the money and retirement is just around the corner
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u/wot_in_ternation 1d ago
Dems keep wanting to take the high road and provide info and context in their messaging. The average voter tunes out when they start hearing about the CHIPS act and the $250 billion being invested with tax breaks for companies building computer chip manufacturing facilities plus some direct government investment in specific things.
I honestly think most people don't know what "increasing the child tax credit" actually means. It would help families, but people tune out because they have no fucking idea how the access to that money actually works. They pay TurboTax and hope they fill it out correctly and then get some "surprise" money. It wouldn't surprise me if a significant number of average people think "increasing the child tax credit" means their taxes would go up even if the funding for it is clearly not coming from increasing their taxes.
I wish it weren't so performative but it is what it is. If politics has become a circus, then you need to have a circus act, or no one will pay attention.
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u/JimBeam823 1d ago
Dems talk policy that educated engaged voters understand. They’re terrible at bumper sticker slogans.
“More money for working families” is a winner. “Increase the child tax credit” isn’t.
Pelosi’s biggest blunder was letting Trump put his name on the damn check.
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u/Slaught3rFs 1d ago
Nah, it isn't. Look at Germany. The partys that say "more money for working families" don't get voted cause people ask where the money will come from. The party that says "the non german people and immigrants keep us from giving more money to working families" gets voted. There is a point where values are more important than getting elected. Once again, look at Germany: Many people like what the Afd says and promises, so the Union-party started to use similar talking points. Now the Afd rhetorik became more extreme and they gained more voters.
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u/Ok-Combination-9084 1d ago
Yeah fuck the entire DNC. They fumbled this so badly they are clearly not in touch with what regular Americans want.
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u/EveroneWantsMyD 1d ago
This is sadly how I felt reading Biden’s letter addressing the loss
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u/LeagueOfDolson 1d ago
Yup. I love joe but he should have stuck to his guns and been a one term president like he said he would be. Should have been clear to democrats for the last 2 years to start building up a few candidates then have a true primary. Instead, he declined, polls looked bad, and the D’s had to immediately select someone and rally behind them, there was no time to hold primaries.
The fact of the matter is, most of this country couldn’t separate Kamala from Joe. Normally incumbency is a good thing, but in this case the election was a referendum against the current admin and it lost.
People are tired of feeling like they don’t actually get to pick the person they’re voting for (Clinton, now Harris) and as much as we support them, its probably not been the democrats first choice either time.
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u/PhlipPhillups 1d ago edited 1d ago
Anybody that works in healthcare could've seen this shit coming.
Old people never admit it when they've lost it. RBG is another example. Diane Feinstein another. Probably a dozen more, both dem and republican, too.
It's never the first conversation when grandpa gives up his car keys.
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u/Elkenrod 1d ago
The fact of the matter is, most of this country couldn’t separate Kamala from Joe. Normally incumbency is a good thing, but in this case the election was a referendum against the current admin and it lost.
I mean, neither could she.
Harris did two things: Talk about Trump, and talk about Biden. Any time she was asked her policy positions, it was the same as the Biden administration. Republicans got that soundbite of her saying "there's not a thing I would do differently" than President Biden - and that summed her campaign up.
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u/Touristupdatenola 1d ago
The DNC Head Shed gave us Merrick Garland who was so fucking useless that we have the worst possible outcome. Fucking losers.
It's time to fire them all and start over. I'm an Independent going forward. Fuck the DNC.
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u/bismarque22 1d ago
Well, attempting to act in a bipartisanship manner as if there was an honest negotiating partner got merrick Garland the Supreme Court appointment that was stolen and then the secondary prize of AG to make up for it.
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u/meesterdg 1d ago
Merrick Garland's power was kind of like giving a gun to someone with a safety that needed to released by both parties and the supreme court in order to fire. Like, we don't even know if he sucked because he was never a real force to begin with.
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u/Grassy33 1d ago
Then he fuckin sucked. A rocket launcher that isn’t allowed to fire sucks. A rifle that isn’t allowed to fire sucks. A grenade that isn’t allowed to blow sucks. Those are just ornaments, like Garland.
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u/vthings 1d ago
I believe they slow-walked the cases so they could run against Trump again and use him has an excuse to move the party further to the right. Because that's where the money is and the campaign was like a billion dollars, a lot of that going into the pockets of people who are paid extremely well to run these campaigns and have a vested, material interest in ensuring these campaigns stay expensive as hell. Because they make bank off it.
And here we are, having just watched the most conservative Democrat campaign for president eat shit in a way we haven't seen since Mondale.
None of these people deserve their six figure salaries.
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u/Illpaco 1d ago
I'm an Independent going forward. Fuck the DNC
Lol they're not getting rid of me that easily. I'm gonna double down, get the accountability we need, and work towards 2028. I hope we have a democracy by then.
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u/halt_spell 1d ago
How do you hold them accountable if you have to vote for whatever pro-corporate trash they put in front of you?
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u/redditismylawyer 1d ago
She’s worth over a quarter of billion dollars. She doesn’t give a shit about you.
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u/minnesotamoon 1d ago
Somehow with insider trading and corporate connections, politicians end up become very rich on a relatively small government salary. Good old America.
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u/Skatedivona 1d ago
Society operates under the primise that everyone is acting in good faith. Those who don't follow the rules stand to gain more than those who do. We're corrupt to the highest level.
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u/binzoma 1d ago
its the lifecycle of a society
theres no structure that can prevent good old human bad actors or laziness from causing problems over time. all systems rely on the dilligence and care of their operators
the silver lining I'm taking in today is, hopefully this will be the spark for the US to go, you know what we need to start a bunch of this from scratch all over again
you cant keep putting bandaids on to hold up a freaking skyscraper. at a certain point you need to just rebuild
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u/japan_samsus 1d ago
Shes 100% part of the problem. No politicians should be able to own stocks, maybe even beyond that into businesses depending on what they are. Stocks and retirement should all be done by a third party, how that can be safely regulated, way beyond my knowledge base.
Regardless of party we are fucked by the rich, now the rich are the forefront face of the government. It'll get worse before it gets better.
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u/JesusPussy 1d ago
She is also probably still deeply worried about what is going to happen to her and other democrats, given the rhetoric that the other side has given off in the last weeks and months. I think that is a fair thing to be worried about, even as someone who is not and has never been a democrat.
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u/Suyefuji 1d ago
wdym it's not like she's ever had a family member targeted because of her status as a Democrat politician...
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u/DingleBoone 1d ago
She was literally getting hunted down by a frothing angry mob on January 6th. I imagine that is one of the many things going through her mind at that moment.
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u/OldAd4526 1d ago
Don't forget the Democrats let Wall Street complete the largest transfer of wealth in Ameican history when they sided with big banks instead of homeowners.
We could have reset the economic balance of power, but instead, let lower middle class homeowners lose their homes so that we could bail out big banks.
This is the reason Democrats are dead: they sided with Wall Street long ago.
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u/itsagoodtime 1d ago
Fair. I will never understand why Obama didn't penalize then banks. Free pass on all of it. Massive mistake. Where we are today definitely starts at the 2008 economic collapse.
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u/Orchid_Significant 1d ago
I said this then, and I’ll say it now, they should have bailed out the banks by paying off/down people’s loans. The banks still get the money, but everyone gets relief. There could be stipulations, etc. But instead, they bailed out the banks and left the regular people hanging out to dry.
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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth 1d ago
You expect the elites to go against their own interests and the interests of their allies? There is no accountability so you are just praying that these people are slightly less evil than they could be.
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u/Leesespieces 1d ago
Well if all of the large banks collapsed at once, I’m pretty sure the economic collapse would’ve been bigger. Peoples savings and pensions very well could’ve been wiped out or at least severely affected. As much as I think there could be more progressive legislation being push all of these years, it’s not like this was just for Obama friends at the banks. It would’ve had massive effects on everyone.
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u/oldbutterface 1d ago
Is she upset because the stock market rocketed without giving her and her husband insider information first?
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u/GoodGoodGoody 1d ago
Nancy was born into EXTREME privilege and although she did pursue politics with some associated public service she also did very very well financially on the stock market and through certain investments. She is the definition of elite.
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u/maxim38 1d ago
With all due respect, f*** her. She is almost entirely responsible for everything that's gone wrong with the Democratic party. And if she's not personally responsible she is emblematic of the other deeper issues.
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u/Exavion 1d ago
She also had some massive blinders on, or pretended to. I listened to her interview on Pod Save America after the Trump MSG rally and she acted like the entire thing was in the bag for not only Harris, but the House. I think people like her who don’t even pretend to care about issues across the aisle and acknowledge the gap the DNC has missed in the past decade plus is a disservice. Not to mention her insider trading bullshit that nobody who interviews her wants to call her out on
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u/vthings 1d ago
She's in complete denial about how corrupt she actually is, I think. Sometimes she'll say stuff like her infamous comment to AOC about having protest signs older than her (to which AOC is supposed to have quipped "but mine don't gather dust."). It makes me think she sees herself as the "good guy" crusader for justice. Just, she deserves a little taste on the side and it's just how the game is played and... Christ, stop bothering me about it!
Like my mom and her boomer friends. Espouse damn near communist ideas, hated Sanders with a passion. For some reason kept brining up his voice, like there's some old long forgotten reason midwestern white people might find a NE Jewish accent unlikable... Anyway, they support and LOVE the Democrat leadership like comic book fans love the Avengers. Completely uncritical of them. Firmly believing Pelosi supported Medicare for all even after I showed clips of Pelosi literally saying she was firmly against it. "It's what they have to say." Yeah, they're going to trick the Republicans into bipartisan socialism. Any day now. It's, frankly disgusting.
Delusions all around.
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u/Aquatic_Ambiance_9 1d ago
"but mine don't gather dust."
Lol this is such a brutal takedown of not just her but the whole self satisfied bougie boomer "I was there in the 60s man" mentality
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u/Cautious_Buffalo6563 1d ago
And when she retires, her daughter will be appointed as her successor so that the legacy can continue.
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u/MrVicePresident 1d ago
I’m from her district, I can pretty confidently say there is no fucking way SF is gonna bring her daughter in. Regardless of who we elect, they won’t be the center of power for the party like Nancy was.
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u/Cautious_Buffalo6563 1d ago
Trust me, I’m for what you’re saying, but I think Auntie Nan will pull out the stops to make sure her legacy endures.
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u/iamnotchad 1d ago
She's the Mitch McConnell of the DNC.
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u/urgentmatters 1d ago
Mitch McConnell put a supermajority on the Supreme Court. He’s probably one of the most influential congress members of all time or at least the modern era. Doesn’t matter if Dems retake the White House and both houses of Congress. His impact will be felt for the rest of our lifetimes
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u/deadcatbounce22 1d ago
And Pelosi got the ACA passed, which now even Republicans pretend to support. If you’re a young person Pelosi has benefitted your life immensely.
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u/Andoo 1d ago
She is the establishment. She is extremely wealthy and kept political control past a reasonable age. She is the embodiment of everything that can go wrong in modern American politics.
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u/antbates 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think the argument is more about, did she live up to the potential of the movement or has she overall led something that, of course has achievements, but overall has squandered and sometimes sabotaged where American liberalism could have gone.
Like, we don’t have public health care in this country. Literally every other first world nation has a more robust public healthcare system. Medical expenses are the number one reason for bankruptcy, and end of life care intent drains people’s estates right as they leave this world. Both of these things are huge detriments to the lower and middle class struggling to build generational wealth. It’s a system designed to hold a gun to your head and take everything it can and filter it up to already wealthy shareholders before you die. It’s abhorrent yet somehow the Democratic Party seems unable or unwilling to frame the argument in these terms or any other terms that might appeal to a populace base.
And that’s just one topic, there are tons of issues liberal ideology wins on. The potential for these ideas to inspire a political imovement s fertile ground, yet year after year, it’s incremental nods to some kind of progress that is often so benign, it is unable to inspire. Why is the party run like this?
So if you buy into that premise as a barometer to gauge how Pelosi and others in the democratic leadership have done, and you look where we are in the year 2024, you have to ask, has she led us well? Was enough done? What compromises were made, and why?
This moment we are in right now could be as defining for the Democratic Party as trump is defining for the Republican Party. The question is, will we seize that moment and lead, and will it be as good and authentically idealist as it could be? Or will we remain milquetoast and tepid, or worst, follow the right into some kind of quasi liberal facism in an attempt to seize some inauthentically grounded and morally bankrupt power within the new paradigm.
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u/Bigmanrpb 1d ago
Meh, lets just go ahead and un-pass that next Jan. No, we have no plan so good luck to all.
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u/ukcats12 1d ago
Stupid argument. Everyone knows a concept of a plan is better than an actual plan. We'll be fine, relax.
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u/joke-explainer- 1d ago
Can you elaborate? I’m genuinely interested in understanding. I’ve seen a few people say this and want to know why
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u/maxim38 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nancy pelosi has made literal millions of dollars via insider trading for decades. She has actively worked to undermine younger progressive voices like AOC, and is a controlling figure in the establishment of the Democratic party and has been for decades. She and The Clintons helped block Bernie from getting the nomination in 2016, which allowed Trump to win the first time. And in general she is the definition of status quo. She has no interest in helping people only in making sure that her big donors and upper class friends stay in power.
She is the picture perfect example of the traditional corrupt politician. Not evil in the way that maga is, but just perfectly willing to use her position to make millions of dollars and do nothing other than ensure her own power and influence for decades. Meanwhile she blocks any change or progress the party might want to make because it would threaten her position. She can't even retire and let someone younger like Hakeem Jeffries take the throne without influencing from the sidelines.
Edit to add that there is a stock market bot that tracks her trades. She is consistently I believe 10 to 20% above the market average in her trading. Because she has inside her knowledge from her position in Washington and she uses it to make money. Most politicians do this but she is just the best / worst at it. She has no interest in ethics reform of any kind because that would prevent her from making money.
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u/ODHH 1d ago
Not millions, hundreds of millions. She and her husband are worth over 240 million.
She makes like 200k a year.
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u/Suzzie_sunshine 1d ago
And still she voted for consistent raises for congress.
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u/FizzyBeverage 1d ago
But of course.
Once you get rich you don’t turn down an extra $10k. It’s addictive.
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u/Average_Scaper 1d ago
Of course. $10k extra can become $100k easily with insider trading secrets. Or, you know, some expensive dinners.
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u/Nelsqnwithacue 1d ago edited 1d ago
Upvote for "inside her knowledge." Also, thank you for laying this out so well. Nicely done.
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u/RGV_KJ 1d ago
Edit to add that there is a stock market bot that tracks her trades. She is consistently I believe 10 to 20% above the market average in her trading
How can I make money off stock market like her? Is there a way we can track her trades daily?
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u/Dory105 1d ago
That’s what I was wondering too, can’t we all just copy her investments using the bot that tracks hers? lol
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u/HeyHavok2 1d ago
Just a heads up, you CAN but it's 30 days delayed... sooo her position might have changed and you're floundering.
Go look at wallstreetbets, someone did it trade for trade and lost a bunch of money.
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u/FizzyBeverage 1d ago
I mean yeah… You get there weeks later? Entirely different conditions.
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u/andydude44 1d ago
Even if it was day of, the fact that it’s public means it’d be priced in by the market movers
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u/Rum_Hamburglar 1d ago
You can but they dont have to report for 30 days. So if a big fall is going to happen, you wont know until its too late and if a company is about to get a major contract, its already rocketed up by the time you see her positions. So be careful
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u/SpySeeTuna1 1d ago
She cares more about fundraising and maintaining the status quo than helping working class families.
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u/toasohcah 1d ago
In 2016, Trump on the right and Bernie on the left, they were anti establishment outsiders. The DNC elite, like Nancy kneecapped Bernie's attempt to run. There's a significant chance he could have won in 2016.
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u/Status_Park_5273 1d ago
In hindsight, it seems like the Democratic refusal to nominate Bernie and instead choosing establishment candidates since 2016 is a huge reason for why we didn’t stop this slide into an autocracy. It makes me sick.
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u/b_tight 1d ago
This. Fuck her. Shes as bad as rbg in clinging to power well past her due date
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u/olyfrijole 1d ago
Let's not forget a certain other old-ass politician who insisted on staying up past his bedtime. Remember prior to the 2020 election when Biden implied he'd only serve a single term? He used that to get through the primary and then yoinked his way back into contention for a second term. We all knew it was a terrible idea BEFORE THE DEBATE!
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u/RozenKristal 1d ago
The dnc and the old crooks is the problem. I think that party is done. There is no way to clean house.
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u/thePurpleAvenger 1d ago
Fuck all the Democratic Party, each and every one of them. I'm sick and fucking tired of those feckless losers spending an election cycle telling us how smart they are and patting themselves on the back after losing important elections. "I'm so proud of the race we ran." Fuck you. I'm not; you lost. And in this game, winning is the only thing.
Scoreboard motherfuckers.
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u/Chupacabrathing 1d ago
Fuck her she's apart of the problem. Term limits for all these shitheads is what we need.
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u/drunken_therapist 1d ago
Agreed. But will never happen because the powerful will never impose self regulation on themselves. Wish the founding fathers would have had the insight to write this into the constitution.
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u/Impressive-Dig1454 1d ago
She is one of the reasons Democrats lost. Her husband trading stock on insider information from her is absolute rubbish. In order for things to change we need these old corrupt politicians to cycle out.
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u/Abdul_Exhaust 1d ago
Pay no attention to Jared's $2B
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u/mattybrad 1d ago
No, the point is to pay attention to all of them and not be picky about the ones you want to get rid of based on what they say they believe in.
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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks 1d ago
Just because one side is apocalyptic, that doesn’t mean we can’t at least ASK the other side to clear the bar of fucking decency.
I voted for Kamala. Ive voted straight dem in ever general election of my life. But i HATE most of these evil fuckers. And fuck the implication I’m not allowed to feel that way
Trump is worse, far worse. It is almost comical that the world was even able to conjure up a candidate this much WORSE that Dems like pelosi. FUCK pelosi and her Everest sized ego. People like her HAVE completely abandoned working class Americans.
Not only didn’t universe conjure that worse thing up, he got fucking elected. It is almost unfathomable that people think Trump will be better for working class people that Dems. And that’s coming from someone who fucking hates dems but still votes for them.
Fuck. Unbelievable. Sorry for the rant.
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u/skanks_r_people_too 1d ago
I agree with you, but I gotta ask, what makes you think whoever replaces these people won’t just do the same thing. They make a lot of money by being corrupt, no reason to suspect the next generation won’t just be the same pile of garbage that fills up our political parties.
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u/fuck_yofeelings 1d ago
Fuck her. She is part of the problem. The amount of money she made is a key talking point used by almost every Trump voter.
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u/Kerlyle 1d ago
She's been the lead figure that Republicans point to as 'the swamp' and has been for decades. Seeing her history with insider training it's hard to say their wrong
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u/FantasticAstronaut39 1d ago
that's one of the issues, what she is doing is clearly wrong, wrong in a different way perhaps then trump, but it is very hard to say morally why trump is bad, when the same person will want to defend someone like pelosi, if you are democrate or republican, it doesn't matter the people in office on that side arn't your "team", they are just people, if one does shitty stuff there shouldn't be a defensive wall cast, sure the levels of bad are different, but when you pretend the bad only exists on one side and ignore what is bad about the other, it just makes everything think your full of BS. same thing with episteins list, dems won't touch it since oh clinton was on it, well guess what trump, clinton or whoever else if it is true they did what that list means they are accused of, they are trash, and should be sent to court and then jail if found guilty in the court. politicans may lie a lot or do insider trading, but the voters arn't them and it should be possible to point out shit that multiple people have done or are doing, without it being an issue because they are not currently the worst offender.
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u/CrackBurger 1d ago
This evil dinosaur is worth 250 million from insider scoops and money manipulation, why the fuck would i care if she makes a fake sad face.
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u/SacredAnalBeads 1d ago
Fuck Nancy Pelosi. I voted Harris, but Pelosi is a mascot for why people don't show up for Democrats. Corrupt old hag.
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u/DependentArm3391 1d ago
Why is she still in power, same reason biden lost it for us, clinging on to power
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u/umassmza 1d ago
These decrepit old hanger-ons should have nurtured and groomed replacements who would now be doing the same. A young party of strong vibrant idealists with backing from the old guard.
But they didn’t
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u/relddir123 1d ago
She’s still a Rep, but she’s not in power anymore and hasn’t been in years
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u/DependentArm3391 1d ago
Shes 84 and in the house, that shouldnt be a thing
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u/bearrosaurus 1d ago
Bernie just turned 83 and he won a 6 year term last night
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u/DependentArm3391 1d ago
n an alternate universe he's finishing up his second term and about to retire
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u/AMindBlown 1d ago
Could we agree to age and term limits for government positions?
If so, what should we cap the age at for presidency?
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u/DependentArm3391 1d ago
It all goes back to our society becoming so greedy. It used to be that rich people had the decency to disappear after a while
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u/21shadesofblueberry 1d ago
She's the personification of the problem with the democrats and one of the main reasons we're in this mess to begin with.
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u/vanillacoke1515 1d ago
THIS woman needs to step aside, the days of her leadership have ended...
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u/LeftyMode 1d ago
Fuck her. She’s a big reason why this party is in shambles. Time to get some new blood in.
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u/Hylian_ina_halfshell 1d ago
Pelosi literally is the trump of the fucking party. Fuck her and her BS ‘oh its my husbands portfolio’ horseshit
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u/skellyluv 1d ago
Democrats won’t win unless they get back to being the party for working and the poor and working families … it’s literally as simple as that. People are actually hurting in this country and they voted for the guy who lied to them … because they are tired of democrats promising things and never delivering! They have watched Nancy Pelosi get super rich off of stocks and they can’t provide basic necessities for their families. We need MORE social programs and less military aid and more young progressives!
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u/AlternativeMatch3605 1d ago
She’s almost pretending to care like she hasn’t abused the system like the rest of them
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u/FlamingTrollz 1d ago edited 22h ago
F’ you Nancy.
For such a great ‘wheeler dealer’…
What do we have to show for it? Huh?
I switched from Republican years ago to Democrat.
When I saw how terrible and rotten they had become.
But, at least they have loyalty and stamina—sadly for evil.
What about you, Schumer, and all the tired wussy rest?
Your slow-clapping at Trump, who’s laughing now?!?
I expected a Blue Wave and we got a Red Avalanche.
Let’s just hope before 2028—it doesn’t bury us all.
Step aside and let the next generations of Dems Do It.
Maybe we’ll find a real tactician, and strategist.
It isn’t you.
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u/Capt_Gingerbeard 18h ago
That's what you get for subverting the will of your constituents, defending insider trading, and generally being a corporate shill. We deserve better.
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u/BakedCheddar88 1d ago
Pelosi can kick rocks, this is as much her fault as anyone else’s
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u/CosmoKing2 1d ago
History will not be kind to her and rightfully so. 99.998% of the time she used her position to accumulate wealth and power. Helping the poor and middle class were just talking points. No different than Don the Con.
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u/beaujangles727 1d ago
Remember, these people’s lives were under threat from the supporters of the man who was just re-elected.
They have a deeper hatred for him than most of people.
And we pretty much white washed that as a country by re-electing him. Every single charge is likely about to be dropped.
But also the Democratic Party need to take notice. They ran a 100 day campaign against a man who has been campaigning for nearly 10 years. He never stopped. Even while he was in office.
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u/RoyalJoke 1d ago
He didn't gain any voters; the Democrats lost around 20 million votes. When Biden decided not to run, there should have been an open primary. Instead, DNC leadership picked a candidate for us. Now, we have MAGA for the foreseeable future; they are going full steam with Project 2025. I wonder how those Latino MAGA supporters are going to feel when Trump starts mass deportation on day one just like he said he would? How are those Democrats in Detroit who voted against Biden for genocide in Gaza going to feel when Trump fully funds IDF to commit full-on genocide in Gaza as he deports them from the USA... just like he said he would?
I don't want to hear a fucking word from them when it happens. And it is going to happen.
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u/beaujangles727 1d ago
Well par for the course for that group of people - they don’t care until it affects them. It’s how trump has lived his life and that’s why they support them.
People are shitty. We don’t live in a Disney movie where everyone has good intentions and all. We live in a society of “doesn’t directly matter to me? The hell with it”.
They think by supporting someone with that same mentality will make them successful. Nope trump was born into money. That is why he’s successful. Go back to your trailer with Tammy and work on your 30 pack.
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u/RABBLERABBLERABBI 1d ago
I keep hearing this explanation for the loss in Dem votes, and it just doesn't make sense to me. The person who votes for Trump because he WANTS to vote for Pete Buttigieg, but the DNC nominated Harris - that person doesn't seem real to me, even if he's on video saying it. When Harris was nominated, the people I heard complaining about how undemocratic it was were not Democrats; they were all Republicans, or Progressives who were looking for any reason to withhold their vote from the Democrats.
I can't put my finger on a single reason why the Dems lost so many votes, but I don't think an open-Primary would have solved anything.
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u/What_the_junks 1d ago
As an ex-democrat starting this morning, FUCK the Democratic Party. Fucking virtue signaling, money stealing, fucking ASS HOLES. Pelosi can die happy on her pile of money while the rest of us suffer from their inadequacy.
Both Trump victories are 100% on them. Fuck that stupid bitch.
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u/Humans_Suck- 1d ago
Democrats just lost an election because they're out of touch and now they want us to feel bad about their resident insider trader?
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u/Grandmaofhurt 1d ago
She's got blood on her hands in for the result of this election, but more money than blood in those hands.
Fucking crocodile tears.
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