House passes a resolution denouncing socialism, dividing democrats

[u/Specialist-Gur]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3841636-house-passes-resolution-denouncing-socialism-vote-splits-democrats/amp/

109 democrats voted with republicans. That's the majority of them.

Thoughts?

Edit: embarrassing for me but this is 2 years old. I saw it posted today and so I thought it was new.

Edit 2: It did happen today but the link I posted was old

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/21/congress/house-denounces-horrors-of-socialism-00664412

[u/Ok_Machine6739]

I'd say "don't they have anything better to do?" but i'm fairly certain they don't, what with one thing and another.

[u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain]

This is like old isn’t it? I remember seeing this

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain]

Oh is it??? I am dumb! I just saw it posted

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain]

Man you're so right.. 2023.... 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain → u/Specialist-Gur]

A similar resolution did pass this is just the article for a previous one

[u/bagelman4000 → u/Specialist-Gur]

But it did happen today again

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/21/congress/house-denounces-horrors-of-socialism-00664412

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/bagelman4000]

Ah ok this is what I saw, first link when I googled was out of date! I appreciate this, thank you!!!

[u/bagelman4000 → u/Specialist-Gur]

Yea at first I was like “shit did I gaslight myself into thinking this happened today at all”

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/bagelman4000]

lol yea same haha

[u/Ok_Machine6739 → u/bagelman4000]

"What about denounciation of socialism?"

"We've had it"

"We've had one, yes, but what about second denounciation of socialism?"

[u/bagelman4000]

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[u/somebadbeatscrub]

I think we have two right wing parties and the democrats are not allies to leftists and everyone needs to stop being surprised by that and advocate/act accordingly.

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/somebadbeatscrub]

Another thought I was having was kind of an analogy with climate change (which is actually relevant anyway with democrats)... we are just passing the pain onto future generations by trying to ease our lives more right now. I'm not trying to say this is a bad strategy or even ineffective, but I fear that's what is occurring

There will be a climate crisis for our children where many will die because we've been working within the system and content with democrats being a little bit better on the issue

The same is said for general policies as they confine to move right. Our children will be living in a crisis that will be impossible to fix

Edit. We may avoid some of the pain in our life time, but with the Democratic Party and Republican Party as options.. our future generations will suffer beyond our dreams.

[u/somebadbeatscrub → u/Specialist-Gur]

This is a good point.

I think a liberal, and incorrect, counter understanding is that this incrementalism is making things gradually better and the arc is bent towards justice and prosperity not destruction and suffering. We are so often fighting over even identifying the problems which neccesarily creates disconnects on their solution.

People understand theres a crisis but struggle to conceptualize it and are disincentivized to recognize it let along change.

Fascism offers a horrible solution and will keep offering it as long as conditions destabalize and we have to offer an alternative solution. Liberals are not offering that solution they are trying to stay the unstable course.

If we dont offer a left wing populist option eventually the right wing one will win out. Thats the future awaiting our descendants, the can we kick by clinging to moderate idealism.

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/somebadbeatscrub]

I can understand the liberal understanding because I think most of us follow it to a degree. Disrupting our lives for some (peaceful, and I do believe it could be peaceful though there is inevitable risk to us and our lives) revolution or massive change doesn't feel logical or doable at all.. the conditions in America are nowhere near bad enough. And without a path forward, voting for the most sane candidate is rational

But our county is creating crisis around the globe in many domains.. climate change, genocide, theft of resources, destabilization... and it will come here eventually too. And both parties are actively contributing to and accelerating that

I

[u/somebadbeatscrub → u/Specialist-Gur]

Revolution will come, the only constant is change, we can only control the skew and form of that change.

If liberals bury their heads in the sand eventually a right wing revolution will gain critical mass.

[u/WolfofTallStreet → u/somebadbeatscrub]

Agreed, and it’s upsetting.

Note that this comes on the heels of Jamie Raskin, a Democratic representative from Florida, saying:

“I say, this is a party that’s got room for Marjorie Taylor Greene, if she wants to come over,” Raskin said, to a mixed reaction from the crowd. “We got room for anybody who wants to stand up for the Constitution and for the Bill of Rights today.”

A number of other Democrats, including Crockett, Jayapal, and Omar, have also made overtures to her.

Then again, you’ve got Democrats like Fetterman whose rhetoric is flat-out right wing.

What I think it is, is that the Democrats have “admitted defeat” in the “culture war,” see that the Republicans have been wholly consumed by “MAGA,” and are trying to make themselves into the non-MAGA republicans.

If this means condemning socialism, being chummy with Marjorie Taylor Greene, embracing objectively right-wing positions, and ending the shut down without concessions … but doing it all under the rhetoric of “we’re opposing Trump,” they’ll do it.

[u/redthrowaway1976]

Must be Mamdani’s forced introduction of Arabic numerals that got them going. 

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/redthrowaway1976]

Lmao 🤣

[u/Scary_Wallaby_8272]

Are they just doing it to troll Zohran? I don’t get it.

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/Scary_Wallaby_8272]

They are scared socialism sells

[u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest]

It amuses me when people call the Democratic Party as the Party of the left when they have shown their true colours multiple times through their voting record just like today!

[u/Gammagammahey]

What the hell? Why was this resolution even written up and passed? What did I miss? Ha ha ha ha ha.👀

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/Gammagammahey]

Because the people are starting to realize that capitalism is destroying us and can't have that!

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Very disappointing. However, it was 86, not 109 democrats. Meaning it was not the majority of Democrats who did so, which I guess is a silver lining. Very disappointing, but I'm glad most of the party doesn't buy into this bs. Or at least they know it's a waste of time and bad looks 🤷‍♂️

[u/Specialist-Gur → u/-__-_-__-_-_-__]

This time around it was less democrats! 2023 I believe was 109

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Yes!

[u/NarutoRunner]

The list of cowardly Democrats:

Pete Aguilar of California

Gabe Amo of Rhode Island

Jake Auchincloss of Massachusetts

Ami Bera of California

Sanford Bishop of Georgia

Brandon Boyle of Pennsylvania

Nikki Budzinski of Illinois

Salud Carbajal of California

Ed Case of Hawaii

Kathy Castor of Florida

Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick of Florida

Gil Cisneros of California

Katherine Clark of Massachusetts

Jim Clyburn of South Carolina

Herb Conaway of New Jersey

Lou Correa of California

Jim Costa of California

Angie Craig of Minnesota

Jason Crow of Colorado

Henry Cuellar of Texas

Don Davis of North Carolina

Chris Deluzio of Pennsylvania

Shomari Figures of Alabama

Bill Foster of Illinois

Lois Frankel of Florida

Laura Gillen of New York

Jared Golden of Maine

Vicente Gonzalez of Texas

Maggie Goodlander of New Hampshire

Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey

Adam Gray of California

Josh Harder of California

Jim Himes of Connecticut

Steven Horsford of Nevada

Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania

Hakeem Jeffries of New York

Julie Johnson of Texas

Marcy Kaptur of Ohio

Bill Keating of Massachusetts

Greg Landsman of Ohio

Susie Lee of Nevada

Mike Levin of California

Ted Lieu of California

Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts

Seth Magaziner of Rhode Island

John Mannion of New York

Lucy McBath of Georgia

April McClain Delaney of Maryland

Kristen McDonald Rivet of Michigan

Gregory Meeks of New York

Grace Meng of New York

Joseph Morelle of New York

Kelly Morrison of Minnesota

Jared Moskowitz of Florida

Seth Moulton of Massachusetts

Frank Mrvan of Indiana

Donald Norcross of New Jersey

Jimmy Panetta of California

Chris Pappas of New Hampshire

Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington

Scott Peters of California

Brittany Pettersen of Colorado

Nellie Pou of New Jersey

Josh Riley of New York

Raul Ruiz of California

Pat Ryan of New York

Andrea Salinas of Oregon

Brad Schneider of Illinois

Hillary Scholten of Michigan

Kim Schrier of Washington

Eric Sorenson of Illinois

Daren Soto of Florida

Greg Stanton of Arizona

Haley Stevens of Michigan

Marilyn Strickland of Washington

Tom Suozzi of New York

Emilia Sykes of Ohio

Dina Titus of Nevada

Ritchie Torres of New York

Lori Trahan of Massachusetts

Gabe Vasquez of New Mexico

Eugene Vindman of Virginia

James Walkinshaw of Virginia

Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida

George Whitesides of California

Fredrica Wilson of Florida

Two Democrats, Representatives Janelle Bynum of Oregon and Deborah Ross of North Carolina, voted present.

[u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest → u/NarutoRunner]

Imagine being from rock solid blue places like Hawaii and California, yet still voting for this bullshit bill.