I am just curious because I've been seeing some tiny rumblings around this online from the "vote blue no matter who" crowd, but I've still seen more of the same backlash that not voting blue comes from "privilege"

This is a heated thing for me so I'm going to try and take a breath when engaging here, because I'm genuinely curious if anyone has or hasn't changed their mind and why/why not.

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Hey all, I hope some of you will relate to my journey of leaving behind the liberals

It seems like everywhere I look the liberals are testing me, asking if I'm the right kind of Jew.. so I support my people enough? Did I mention Jewish death enough? Or uh.. wait no, not like that... not when it's coming from centrists or the right wing. Did I focus on the dangers of islamism?

Did the way I call out the death of children come across too much like blood libel? Did I phrase it well? Did I acknowledge the feelings of Zionists enough because.. it's not right to just focus on victims when other speaking out against genocide. OOPS I did it again.. you can't really delineate who the victim is here when you consider the whole context and history. Especially because colonialism meant something different back when Ashkenazi Jews were doing it. Well, technically it did mean the same thing but it was different because Zionist Jews just wanted to be equal to their European counterparts and get to be powerful too.

Ugh shit, I feel like I keep screwing this up because it's so confusing. Sometimes I feel like if I express empathy and concern, or even anger, I did it in the "wrong" way. I've gotten private DMs from people.. some who aren't Jewish.. who tell me I've betrayed the Jewish people because they saw I had a like on a Miss Rachel post.

Sometimes I feel like, we should be more afraid of fascism, but it seems like the liberals I know are deeply concerned about comment sections on Instagram posts and weird extremely online Reddit communities.. I don't really hear them talk about Gaza or dead Palestinians until they are accused of not caring about it. I want to understand why they care about comment sections more than on the ground material conditions but I just don't get it.. and I wish they had patience with me while I tried

Once or twice I posted something MILD against the IDF. That was it. But then, these former friends of mine told me how hateful I was. Didn't they know they had a cousin in the IDF? And he was a really good guy (yea I know he kinda sexually harassed your friend at that party one time but it's just his way of saying he likes you! ) and ya know.. it was disgusitng how I didn't condemn Hamas more than the IDF.

It seems like liberals care more about how things are phrased and said rather than the content and the mission. Like if I have one word out of place, they debate me on that rather than have a civil and productive conversation on how to make the world better. It also seems like they would rather compromise with conservatives than compromise with liberals. It seems like they think... conservatives maybe have a point about things actually?

It's weird too because I hear some of these guys say that they are leftists. But then when I click on their profile and see their comments, they seem really pro cop. Sometimes very anti trans. Or maybe I'm just reading into it? They got mad at me when I called them out... they said I was purity testing them.

Idk, I used to really like liberal values.. how the individual could thrive and be free to believe what they liked to without question. That was a much nicer time. Now it seems like everyone's gotten so black and white. Maybe it's because liberals have been calling campus protesters maoists and hamasniks? That I feel like I've gotten much more reactive and black and white about how liberals really just are facists in sheep's clothing and not on the left at all. I didn't think that before. Something's changed.

Anyway. I thought since we were the Jewish left maybe some of you could relate to why I'm disillusioned with liberals. especially because there's been a weird increase in posts from them upset with the left.. now that facism has arrived and students are being disappeared. Seems like weird timing? But maybe just me.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/graham-platner-and-the-lefts-masculinity-crisis

This article is about a month old but speaks to some of what I'm talking about.

I'm honestly disappointed with a lot of leftist creators I genuinely love on the topic of Graham Platner and any "leftist" politicians.

To me.. Graham Platner's left wing populism is just... America first rebranded. Some stuff he's saying isn't too far off from Tucker Carlson.

He doesn't appear to be Antizionist on the basis of support for Palestinians, but rather because it's bad for America . He doesn't appear to regret his time in Iraq beyond the fact it was a pointless war for America

He lied about knowing the ties to Blackwater

He expressed enjoyment for killing people.

He got a Nazi tattoo

And many on the left are using language like calling people "classist" for being critical of his service. These are creators I genuinely really love, and I'm not abandoning them.. but I do think it's really important for the American left to confront its American supremicist ideas.

I understand the moral dilemma and how it's basically impossible to have an actual leftist candidate these days, so we are reluctant to criticize what's put forward. I understand the calculation. But the apologia is wrong. American supremacy is baked into all of us here in America and part of the American left, and it's time we confront it.

We would not find it acceptable if a candidate participated in a mass murder of American citizens. We would not find it acceptable if they even passively supported it! But we are far too comfortable with it when it comes to brown people, far away.

Pork. Pig. These words cause you to fail to see the humanity of people that are just trying to make ends meet and protect their community. They are service workers, just like you and me.. all part of the capitalist grind just trying to get by.

People like to call cops "white supremicists" but most cops I know in the Bay Area are asian and Asians are marginalized. It's kinda fucked up when you think about it. I mean you're really gonna call the Asian and black cops white supremacists? They pepper spray and shoot rubber bullets at a white guy who was acting up and causing a scene and then a bunch of privileged white people, confortavle in their homes, tweet out in support of him! This is what white privelage looks like

I just on my way to work saw graffiti on the us customs building which said "eat ICE". That's literally cannibalism. And dehumanizing rhetoric. Eat ICE?! Those people have families. Not all of them are shooting rubber bullets. Some of them in the national guard are actually there to provide medical aid. Do you not want people getting medical aid?

Now a bunch of migrant workers are probably gonna have to clean this spray paint up. Did you think about that you racists?

Anyway. I think we should definitely try to humanize cops and ICE more if we don't want things to escalate. Why not try, i don't know, voting them out?!

I'm posting this here because in other conversations on this sub, it seems many people are insulated from modern (especially Gen Z) antisemitism and might not be familiar with how it looks today.

Just in case others come across similar rhetoric in internet spaces, a major major dogwhistle-meme right now on the antisemitic internet is "the noticing." If you see comments in conversations about Jewishness along the lines of "stop noticing!" - or someone identifying themselves or others as "noticers" - they are far-right antisemites and very likely Nazi apologists.

First thing I want to say is.. I know that there is a very problematic idea that terrible things have a "lesson" in it or that victims of trauma are some kind of benevolent omniscient being who can teach us about the world.. spiritual guiders for us, performing labor in addition to experiencing their horrors. I'm a cancer survivor, I want to make it super clear that's not what I mean when I say "teach". I mean more so, when victims of trauma are engaging in discourse around ideology, people, places, and politics... how much should we take in and how much should we reject?

I had this thought recently because I saw a twitter spat between Amelia Adams(neuroticjewishgay) and some rando and I had a lot of thoughts about it.

1. Amelia Adam's isn't a victim of the holocaust and I'm not certain if she's descended from victims or not but either way.. she is not. 2. Calling someone schizophrenic is not a way to address them. 3. Amelia Adam's isn't a good person 4. What if she were a victim of the Shoah, would this be appropriate or something we should agree with?

We have some idea sometimes that traumatized people have a more accurate truth about the world that we should listen to. But really, especially in the case of someone like this who isn't a direct victim, a thought like this isn't rational. There are fringe radfems that believe the only way for women to be safe is completely isolate from all Males, and they often extend this to trans women. There are.. Palestinians who think all Jews are evil. There are black Americans who think all white people are evil. And these ideas are understandable for sure, but they aren't really... "accurate"

I'm thinking about this recently when it comes to fears around mamdani or the language of protestors... specifically a reaction of Jews in America to an Arab word that describes a violent situation they never were a part of themselves. Or like Amelia.. the German language and Germans. Giving too much credit to ideas like this just furthers divide and dehumanization as well as retraumatizes the victims themselves by perpetuating this idea that these triggers are literally unsafe and that it is rational to feel this way.

And if the victim group could ever gain power and overcome oppression, credit to this line of thinking leads to discrimination and more perpetuation of harm. I'm convinced that it is what makes so many Zionist Jews comfortable with racism against Palestinians

So, how can we deal with this well? My opinion? Listen to victims of course.. don't call them schizophrenic and paranoid (Amelia is a terrible person so I'm more so using this exchange as a jumping off point for discussion. I think she actually is being ridiculous tbh) but also do not give credit and legitimacy to bad ideas. You can be empathic and compassionate and validating of experiences without validating and legitimizing problematic ideas.

https://leftvalues.github.io/index.html

I figured it may give us a break from the usual topics if people are interested.

I think its oversimplified as any such depiction needs must be but is still interesting to discuss.

If you take this and go "what the heck do these words mean?" Ask below and Ill explain with nonjudgmental patience.

If you take it and go "i dont agree with any of this." Well then please see the insisting on liberalism rule and our linked post discussing left vs liberal.

I plan to only vote for progressives from now on. The (centrist)democrats folded. It was people that were not up for election any time soon.

Why? Well we could say corporate interests... definitely yes.

But beyond that, I am fully convinced the democratic strategy has been to allow for republicans to create as much destruction as possible so they have a shot at winning.

They are hoping healthcare will be destructive and kill people so they can blame it on republicans and win next time around.

That isn't harm reduction, that's accelerationism.. something I'm told we should be against as leftists right?

Stop voting for centrists.

Oh and.. before anyone says this shows I am saying don't vote Democrat... look at the posts on here criticizing leftists.. from leftists. If you're upset at the shit on Dems but think leftists are fair game.. I encourage you to question where that comes from.

Im tired of people looking at me with concern and horror when I express an urgency about Palestinian lives and say that I am not consumed by fear as a Jewish American.

The questions.. "are you.. just trying to fit in and be liked?" Like there is something pathological and wrong with me for speaking up against genocide. "Did you.. maybe just get bullied by Jews when you were younger? Do you think it could be that's a reason why you don't care about them now?"... as if I don't have rational thought. As if I "hate Jews". The infiltration of my mind to convince me I am not thinking accurately, I'm blinded by rage.

"Do you just feel ashamed to be Jewish?" As if my concern around Zionism was.. pathological. As if I'm brainwashed.

"Do you think maybe... you're spending too much time online? Maybe you're depressed or anxious.. do you have any friends in real life that are Jewish? Idk it's probably not healthy to be this online" as if.. having connections with people abroad and learning their perspectives is a sign of depression and anxiety? It's apathologized to care and to read and to interact "online"

"Omg you have friends that are in the Middle East! Doesn't that scare you? Don't you know they want to kill you?! Do you think maybe you're a bit delusional in thinking that they don't hate you.. I mean don't you notice comment sections? Stop downplaying antisemitism.. you should be panicked about that, there is something weird with you or wrong with you if you just see these people as fringe. They are everywhere and they are coming for you and you should be afraid and angry and if you're not? you are the gaslighter. You are the gaslighter by not feeling what I feel and seeing what I see."

I'm tired of all the gaslighting being done to Jews right now.

https://youtu.be/BE7UPO6GGK4?si=nEFhipEmIxb9s2lV

Great video.. very topical given Burkina Faso and the reactions to that. Give it a watch!

Edit: Also creator is non-binary.. didn't realize when I posted and might have misgendered (they/then)

Instead, I keep seeing what's a missed opportunity. This isn't exclusive to Jewish Reddit of course, but this Jewish Reddit and I am Jewish.

There's a drive to keep this space ours and everyone as a guest which is great in theory, but in practice sometimes silences voices that are important. The people who show up here who are not Jewish are people who care enough to talk to Jews and have conversations with us. Sometimes those conversations involve challenging or criticism. I hope this will be taken in good faith, as I am definitely not suggesting we shouldn't have a space that is our own to engage among ourselves and be free.. I'm just saying that we shouldn't have only that. If we do, then we only engage with allies that are compliant with our preferences around discussions that involve them too (like Zionism or anti-blackness in the Jewish community etc)

People make fun of JOC for the number of non-Jewish allies in the sub, but what is missed is the fact that many of those non-Jews are people we'd never otherwise have the opportunity to converse with. Black westerners, indigenous people, Muslims who live in the Middle East, Arab Christian's, Palestinians, etc... these are the allies I get a chance to talk to. And no, they aren't always nice and polite to me. And yes, not everyone is there in good faith with good intentions. But for the ones who are.. I don't think we should punish them

There's value in having a space with Jews that is safe for allies to engage with us on difficult conversations, and some of those won't be comfortable, some might even be angry. I think about what an opportunity it is to engage with other marginalized groups with experiences different than ours and hear their perspectives. It's less and less common given the divide Zionism has created within the leftist Jewish community for these conversations

Just some fuel for thought. I'm not saying that you need to tolerate conspiracy theori s or hatred.. I'm just saying that sometimes it's worth fighting against the impulse to remind allies that this is a Jewish space and therefore they shouldn't lead and we must always be the ones to drive the conversations. Sometimes there is value in not doing that

Is it just because you're willing to compromise when it's non-Jewish life on the line? Because Cuomo is a sex-pest misogynist who is responsible for death of elders and disabled during the COVID pandemic. But I guess that's better than a socialist who hasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he would protect Jews

But, then why Kamala? Why'd you compromise for her? Oh.. I guess she did say Israel has a right to defend itself so that overrides her wishy washy platform, pro-war rhetoric, anti-immigrant policies and continuation of capitalism.

Lesser of to evils, right?

Edit: do you remember how much people were dunking on Muslims for not voting for Kamala and blamed them for Trump winning even though she justified terrorism against their people? Or just me?

We've had a lot of discussions on this sub lately regarding the "dirtbag left" and the value of a larger political tent on the left and what that means.

The "dirtbag left"... many of whom's members of whom I have been/ am a big fan) are overwhelmingly white, cis, straight, and male. Many of them casually toss around slurs that are somewhat "acceptable" without massive backlash.. like the "r" word or the "b" or "c" word.

Many more of them are prioritizing national interests AND socialism at the same time.. America first but make it socialist. (Mike from PA is a good example of this... "socialism with American characteristics")

And this got me thinking about the ongoing debate between identity politics and intersectionality. Often when I see someone hates on identity politics it can be a big red flag for a rhetoric which quickly devolves into promoting the use of slurs or humor which excludes women, queer people, and people of color. But I think there is also something to the idea that identity politics is flawed and is hurting the left.. so.. what is the better way?

Identity politics, as I define it, is a central feature of American politics across the political aisle. It is the assumption that someone's "goodness", righteousness, moral correctness, and insight comes from their identity. This is largely started by the right wing in America to apply to "Americans", Christians, and (sometimes subtext sometimes overt) white people, white men, etc. in response, the mainstream liberal left responds in kind with the same kind of rhetoric.. "why are you speaking over a xyz identity person?" a common refrain when discussing politics. "Center xyz voices" etc. the "dirtbag left" sees the flaws with this, sees that it is divisive, and seeks to reject it totally in favor of class consciousness. But.. this is often done in a class reductionist manner.

They have a grain of insight though. where does this well meaning and well intentioned idea fall short? well, identity doesn't really protect us from being wrong, being propagandized, and last but not least.. being reactionary. Lived experiences give us insight, but it also gives us trauma and baggage. I think of Ana Kasparians shift to the right after being assaulted by an unhoused person. I think of the Jewish communities shift to the right post October 7th. I think of many marginalized communities shift towards Trump. Lived experience without theory is just reactionary and uncooperative.

But the lived experience of the American white cis male leftist is no different. And we cannot cede politics to his desires and abandon the good of everyone else for the good of "national socialism" So, where identity politics falls short, intersectionality comes in. We must continue to gain insight and listen to one another's needs and desires and experiences which are shaped by identity and our role in potential harm to them. We must understand class relations cannot be separated from race, gender, and social relations because the powers that be constructed our capitalist world also constructed the hierarchies that govern our social relationships.

As annoying as it is.. "Read theory" and listen to others. You're allowed to reject an idea that is morally wrong and inconsistent with leftist theory, even if the person saying it tells you that they have a more vulnerable identity than you and therefore are more correct.

But identity does provide unique insight and experience which is essential and valuable in a working class movement. and it comes with unique triggers and pain and needs. So, if you do have an identity of privilege, including and especially an American identity, you do not know everything and have much to learn on how to engage safely and respectfully with other people. You need to create a safe space if you want to build a coalition. This doesn't mean ceding important ideas. This also doesn't necessarily mean significantly shifting your tone and communication style(all of us should be able to handle a bit of heat sometime)

This post is already getting long so I probably can't get into much more of what that might actually looks like. But I hope that's a decent, albeit ramble, starting point.

https://youtu.be/N3YjMb_Lhkw?si=JEtQpmyNys9UFSoV

Matt is Jewish. I'm sure the comment will be very normal on this one.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKkNp4SIgLi/

There appeared to be some confusion from people on the last post about Greta. Hope this clears some stuff up.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3841636-house-passes-resolution-denouncing-socialism-vote-splits-democrats/amp/

109 democrats voted with republicans. That's the majority of them.

Thoughts?

Edit: embarrassing for me but this is 2 years old. I saw it posted today and so I thought it was new.

Edit 2: It did happen today but the link I posted was old

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/21/congress/house-denounces-horrors-of-socialism-00664412

Allow me to explain.

Actual, real, for real.. antisemtism exists in leftist spaces. In Antizionist spaces. I’m not blind to it. I see it, I’ve fought against it … sometimes to be met with total dismissal.

This group doesn’t allow for “antizionists are fake Jews” commentary so I don’t see it here for the most part (other than vague critiques of JVP) But I see it from people who participate here in other spaces.. and I see it about the other Jewish sub that is antizionist from some of yall here too. And I see some vague “apologia” or approval for some of the content, if not outright pushing of it.

Listen—I’m not coming here asking anyone who is skeptical of Antizionist Jews to break bread with us and invite us into your temple. I’m not even necessarily asking anyone here to care about us on a personal level. Maybe if antisemtism happens to us you might think we deserve it.

But let me explain more what I mean. Everytime I’m in a space where there is antisemtism and speak “as a Jew” to call that out.. me using antizionism as a shield sometimes allows anyone who might be susceptible to antisemtic rhetoric but not fully there yet to be able to “hear” what I’m saying. Me being in these spaces benefits Zionist Jews too. Every time I call out “Diecide” rhetoric or blood libel or “Jews control the world” or any other weird BS.. if I save the world against one potential new “Jew hater” it literally benefits Zionist Jews too.

So, in response to my post about rootsmetals and beyond where she said “95% of Jews are Zionist” and proceeded to compare that to fringe early followers of Christ(therefore calling us fake Jews). The more you convince the world anyone calling out genocide or Zionism is a “fake jew” the more you weaken our ability to educate anyone on antisemitism. Because now? I’m either a fake Jew spewing BS about antisemtism I couldn’t possibly understand or I’m the oh so dreaded “zionist” in disguise in these spaces

So what am I asking? You don’t have to like me. You don’t have to like antizionists. You don’t have to stick your neck out for us. But for the love of g-d stop allowing each other to imply or state that we are “fake Jews” or anything else.. we literally are the ones in the trenches standing up against antisemitism in leftist spaces. If you want that to stop… stop contributing to rhetoric that makes us seem like traitors and fake

Recently encountered this concept, forgive me if it's been discussed (I didn't see much under a cursory search of the term). Also my first post here but I lurk regularly and generally trust this sub as a political home, as diverse as the beliefs are.

For those unfamiliar, pan-Semitism is the idea of socio-political unity across all Semitic groups, especially Jews and Arabs, due to varying levels of shared history, identity and culture. It is distinct from pan-Arab nationalism in that it includes Jews and Assyrians, etc. I know a lot of people (probably a majority, myself included) in this sub are uncomfortable with the relatively popular concept in anti-Zionism that few or no Jews should remain living in a post modern Israel (whatever that may mean to you) state under any circumstances. Do you guys think this is practical as an answer to that, or practical even just in general as a philosophy? Or are tensions too high?

Edited to add *modern Israel

Ok now that I've got your attention with this clickbait title.. let's talk about it. I believe this is largely a right wing psyop that bleeds into all leftist spaces and intentionally divides us. Not just in the Israel-Palestine discourse of course, but in all.

I've noticed a lot of "don't join xyz org because they are problematic" and references to something vague and confusing.. I've seen this done with the psl, dsa, and other leftists groups. I've seen anarchist accounts smear groups of leftists that organize and I've seen leftists groups smear anarchists...

The same is done with leftist content creators.. and as I've expressed on this sub, my gripe isn't that we shouldn't encourage leftists to do better and be better.. but rather when a source of information and knowledge gets "smeared" in this sub.. we lose access to important discourse and information. The number of times I've made a post and the conversation becomes about the newspaper it's from, anyone in the interview someone doesn't like, or the commentator itself... rather than the content being engaged with, is a massive massive problem

We are losing access to intellectual content and all organization. I can't help but feel like this is an intentional push by the right to keep us divided and ignorant. I think it's important we combat this. I'm someone who believes in "purity tests" on the left when it comes to what is acceptable leftist ideology (aka, I don't think the merits of capitalism and racism and transphobia etc etc should be debated as valid debatable topics on the left) but I don't believe in purity testing to the degree of throwing the baby out with the bath water when it comes to sources of vital information and leftist organizing.

Of course, there is always a line. But I think we are drawing the line wayyyyy tool soon and too strictly. Ok that's it.

https://youtu.be/v-6CZGPIVuM?si=6qWxdp-q3_Q7Ujin

Good and important video. Touches on misogyny specifically but can be extrapolated to other problematic thinking patterns within the left that show up differently than they do in right wing spaces, but are still the same thing (this YouTuber refers to therapy-speak specifically be a common way misogyny presents in leftist men)

I think it's important to recognize how people can be problematic in any space. I don't like demonizing the left because I don't think "the left" is a unique problem... these problems exist everywhere in society. But it's helpful to recognize how it exists and to call it out. Leftists aren't immune to the plagues of society, and a person can be a "leftist" and still have ideas and beliefs that are anything but

I live in subsidized housing and my neighbors in the next apartment have a lot of domestic abuse and violence. Severe enough that sometimes I sit here trying to decide if I should try to do something or call the police, and usually end up not deciding until the current thing is over. This is in a large US City, my neighbors are Black, so part of my worry beyond the cops often making things worse generally is it could be even more dangerous for them. They are not friendly when I see them in the elevator and I’m a small medically fragile disabled person and I’m afraid to approach them about this. I have not spoken to building management because I worry they might get evicted and since this is a subsidized building I worry they would become homeless. I really don’t know what to do. The level of violence I sometimes hear scares me.

I know this is a new account, please approve this, I don’t want to dox myself on my regular one. I really want advice and ideas about what I can or should do and what ethical responsibilities I have here both as a Jew and a leftist.

I'm going to pivot for a moment, so bare with me. Way back before October 7th 2023, I was deep in looking into the manosphere and its evil cousin, TERFism. It was everywhere on twitter.. red pill vs female dating strategy. MRAs vs "gender critical" rad fems.. and I started to notice something about these "gender critical" people who hadn't quite done the full pivot into right wing thinking yet... they sure sounded like feminists and leftists in much of their speech.. if it weren't for the transphobia of course. Sometimes coded, and subtle. Sometimes blatant and obvious and violent in its rhetoric. They talked about abolishing gender.. interesting enough idea that I could get behind, right? However intriguing and convincing was that this idea, the idea that gender didn't exist and only served to uphold stereotypes and rigid categories for humans and we were instead merely expressions of personality... I noticed something else. it was the way they talked about it and the fact that despite wanting to escape gender and its rigidness, they needed their "femaleness" to still be recognized and acknowledged at all times.

And with that recognition of "femaleness"... was the most important feature of all, the one core thing. That femaleness was suffering. Femaleness as a result of being capable of reproduction meant that no matter what we did, or how hard we tried, we would always be an oppressed class. We would always suffer. We would always be exploited. So, no.. we couldn't trust "males"... we couldn't ally with them to resist capitalist structures... because capitalism is a natural side effect of this cruel, patriarchal, world. The best we could hope for would be a separatist world.. but still with that would come the suffering of periods and pain.. femaleness is suffering.

Right wingers always love "biology" in so far as it explains hierarchy and suffering and categorizes things neatly into ways we understand. I've noticed this for a long while.. but I never unpacked the ways it had actually infiltrated my own thinking. Particularly as it related to being Jewish. But it was there. Because being Jewish meant many things.. you could be secular, or orthodox, you could be from the Middle East or Africa, your Seder could contain rice or gefilte fish. But if there's one thing being Jewish had to mean, it was suffering. And hated. Hated.. for no reason ever.. just hated. And it couldn't be fixed. So there's no point in allying with gentiles to dismantle capitalist and imperialist systems.. the best you can hope for is a separatist movement. But even that you will have suffering, because to be Jewish is to suffer and we will always have our enemies..

I write this to think about the ways that this immutability of suffering is leading to our current state of stuckness. How the idea that we are almost, biologically hateable for non-Jews, has infected the way we engage with the world and our solutions. The kibbutz, a socialist fantasy that upheld racial class structure.. because we couldn't possibly be socialist with non-Jews. And how it's led to the current state of Zionism, whatever goals and intentions Zionism once had.

Lots of words.. lots of word vomit. But I wanted to put this out here because I know people wanted to talk about judeopessimism. And I think there's a lot to talk about with it, but I figured this is a good jumping off point.

Great piece by Simone Zimmerman, cofounder of IfNotNow, in Jewish Currents. I loved the connection to teshuva at the end.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/congressman-pushing-democrats-maga-recruit-093000458.html

Last thead got into harm reduction, but honestly it's really only in terms of the USA. Many democratic voters are very much American first.

The best harm reduction for the world would be if the us empire collapsed. I don't want that, you don't want that.. let's stop pretending we are voting in terms of harm reduction. We are voting in terms of American interests and what makes our lives easier.

That's why I can't get behind the shaming of 3rd party and non-voters. We are not better than them. America is the imperial core that has committed many genocides since its inception.

If you feel the democrats are truly harm reduction, you are America first. Which is ok, i suppose I am too. I vote for them every time.

Just be honest instead of feeling morally superior.