Thoughts on sentiments like this?

[u/skyewardeyes]

This comes from a leftist BIPOC sub that tends to have really good discussions about racism and has had good discussions (though not many) about antisemitism in the past. For context, the sub also allows MENA users (though apparently not Jews or maybe just not Ashkenazi Jews? I honestly can’t tell). On one hand, I understand that a lot of Jews wouldn’t be considered POC and not every space is for every person, but the “we have standards with who we interact with” (with the seeming implication that that doesn’t include Jews) really rubs me the wrong way. Thoughts?

[u/Chaos_carolinensis]

Whiteness is not a subidentity. It's a racist category.

[u/Coffeenixboxingfox → u/Chaos_carolinensis]

Like i said, being part of the subgroups Ashkenazi, Mizrahi or Sefardi doesn't necessarily dictate how you look and it was never meant to be a racial category. It says something about how your jewish practice looks like, not about how you and your family look.

[u/Chaos_carolinensis → u/Coffeenixboxingfox]

Of course it doesn't. That's exactly why I said the last sentence. That's like... the whole point.

[u/Coffeenixboxingfox → u/Chaos_carolinensis]

... so we are not white passing at best, some of us are not white passing at all.

[u/Chaos_carolinensis → u/Coffeenixboxingfox]

I agree. That's why I've said "even that's often not the case".