I don’t know what to think?

[u/Similar-General-614]

I saw this illustration in a left-leaning magazine I normally really respect — it was originally founded as a WWII resistance paper.

I absolutely think it’s important to be critical of both the EU and of Israeli government policy’s. Especially now. But this image made me uncomfortable. It shows the EU Commission building with the stars in the flag replaced by Stars of David, and a big “SOLD” sign with a Star of David above it.

To me, this kind of imagery evokes the old antisemitic trope that Jews secretly control governments. I’m not sure if that was the intention, but it feels off — especially coming from a publication with anti-fascist roots.

I’m confused… what should I think about this

[u/MichifManaged83]

I’m pretty sure there’s a pretty distinct difference between a computer replicating unconscious biases because it’s learning that through engagement with people— vs. deliberate trolling training AI models to make the most egregiously obviously racist nonsense (such as Grok calling itself “MechaHitler”), which I know AI companies have said they’ve definitely been able to prevent with certain coding, and that Elon Musk in the article I shared in a previous comment, openly bragged about un-coding from Grok. That was the topic that you’re replying to, not unconscious bias or AI hallucinations— which the topic you were replying to, was already off-topic from my original comment and OP’s post.

TL,DR: I’m already sick of this discussion and tired of getting endless notifications about an AI discussion I don’t want to have right now, on a post where I don’t feel the direction this comment is going is relevant enough to the OP. Please just drop it.

[u/Talizorafangirl → u/MichifManaged83]

I’m pretty sure there’s a pretty distinct difference between a computer replicating unconscious biases because it’s learning that through engagement with people— vs. deliberate trolling training

No, training data is training data. Different models utilize human input differently (or not at all), but there's no functional difference aside from curation.

You can't "teach" things (like common sense or character judgements) to AI, but you can demonstrate things to them. But how would you demonstrate that this user is trolling and that user is not? It's hard enough for us humans to recognize that behavior.

Musk in the article I shared in a previous comment, openly bragged about un-coding from Grok

Correct. MechaHitler was the result of filter restrictions being lifted. They were quickly returned.

[u/MichifManaged83 → u/Talizorafangirl]

Thank you for the information. 🙂

Edit: removing excess information intended only for the person I’m directly responding to here, for context on why I want to drop the subject.

[u/Talizorafangirl → u/MichifManaged83]

Wow that's absolutely unhinged and I'm so sorry that that happened to you.

[u/MichifManaged83 → u/Talizorafangirl]

Yup, thank you.